what causes anxiety?

[GEORGIE323]

what caused my anxiety was because i tried ecstacy...... im wondering if anyone else has gotten anxiety because they used drugs?  and what else can cause anxiety?

[thyroidpeach]

so who's to say that those of us who have done drugs wouldn't have gotten anxiety anyway (with or without the drugs). Many of us turn to drugs and alcohal to self medicate before we even know that we need help?

I've suffered with depression since i was a teen, and (now that I think back) mild anxiety only to self medicate to get through. As I got older I was able to see what was happening and get counseling.

My panic and anxiety attacks didn't happen till i was 24 and i wasn't doing drugs at the time.

[RubyWitch]

bump

[RC184]

LOL...OMG .... You need to crawl under a rock and stay their!

[RubyWitch]

Glory is not what I'm looking for.......actually I'm looking through the ashtrays for a butt long enough to smoke since I'm out and trying, at the same time, to keep this fecking tiara from falling off my head!

[MrGreen]

Now doubt you'll get all the glory for giving me a telling off. Fair play to you. Just what I needed. Someone to put me in my place. And you are right too. Long may you reign.

[RubyWitch]

I do try, very hard, to NOT "crack my whip" unless I see someone being abusive and judgemental to a fellow poster reaching out for help. Some people, with extremely self-righteous agendas, should just walk away if they have nothing positive to offer. We ALL came here with with our various problems, desperately seeking help, support and understanding and absolutely nobody deserves to be treated with the derision you showed to GEORGIE323.

I would "crack my whip" every bit as hard, if not harder, if someone came on here and condemned those who suffer from agoraphobia.............even if that condition had been brought on by a negative experience with drugs.

[MrGreen]

I love it when she cracks her whip.

[RubyWitch]

Ok boys and girls...........enough mud has been slung. TIME TO STOP! I don't want to have to push the magic "delete" button, but things are getting a tad nasty. If any of you wish to continue the arguement about whether someone who may POSSIBLY have developed anxiety from illicit drug use deserves our support or not, then duke it out in a PM. I don't think we need to waste any more "public" time on your "private," off subject, opinions.
I am NOT going to get into who is right or wrong here, I am NOT going to take sides, but THE bottom line is that someone came to us for help with anxiety and THAT is the only thing we should be offering.

Georgie..............I believe that many people HAVE developed anxiety from a bad drug experience, legal or NOT. Did you have anxiety problems before you tried the ecstacy? There are so many reasons a person can have anxiety, I don't have room to write them all..........a bad experience from childhood, a car accident, loss of a loved one, near drowning, bad parents, bullies at school, an illness............if you can think of it, it's likely that someone, somewhere has developed anxiety because of it. Spend some time reading the posts here and you will see what I'm talking about.
My advice for you would be to see your doctor, tell him what has happened and let him give you professioanl advice on how to deal with the resultant anxiety you are feeling. It may be beneficial for you to get into some therapy as well.
You have come to the right forum to help with your anxiety, but it COULD benefit you to check in with the good folks over on the Drug Abuse Forum.......they could tell you if they experienced the same anxiety and that could possibly relieve your mind, knowing that you're not alone.
I wish you good luck and write us any time you need to talk.
Peace
Greenlydia      
  

[scaredjo]

hahahahahahaha

[MrGreen]

Thanks for remembering me in your post Georgie. Blessed so I am.

[GEORGIE323]

i just want to say thanks to everyone thats showing me support and understand what im going through...... if anything im asking for support from anyone that can relate to me or anyone who wants to help me out.... not for people to come here and judge me so if anything f**k mr.green

[lonewolf07]

Sorry - but I agree with you  =)  I honestly believe that taking anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds made me MORE anxious.  Like a lot of people, I've tried weed and coke (once) and I admit it.  However, it was the "legal" drugs that got me hooked.  How ironic that an anti-anxiety drug has made me more anxious than I was before.  Yes, I am getting help with it.

To tsands - I'm really sorry to hear about your problem.  We live in the ghetto where drugs are really easy to get and help for addiction is extremely difficult to find.  I've had a similar experience with one of my kids.  Hope you have better success than I did.

[autum]

Mr. Green, thank you for clearing it up....I was confused on what was mentioned from the beginning then later...  

Me on the other hand, I was expressing my opinion on someone elses post and not the original person....  because like you said....  I dont know how that drug is....so I cannot help with that issue  do to the fact....  I have never done estacy before and I really dont know what that drug is...   I have tried pot before...  but that was only one time ...along time ago...   I have had my peers try and pressure me into doing more different kinds...  but I told them no.....  If I dont want to...then I wont....  and they didnt bother w/ it anymore, nor did they do that type of stuff around me...  because they knew I wouldnt put up w/ it...  

I do agree w/ the post that you said about...  going to a forum that knows about drugs...  but also I do agree w/ scaredjo too....   so Im out of words....


Thanks,
Autum

[scaredjo]

i just think that everyone with anxiety or worries has a right to post here, no matter wot the cause is, everyone has a story as to how it started and who cares how it started? so long as were here 4 each other wot the hell does it matter?????????? lets not judge people wether it be drugs or any other reason if people need help getting to the root of the anxiety HELP THEM if people need advice on symptoms or cures HELP THEM thought that was wot medhelp was all about
come on people

[MrGreen]

Let me make it clear. I am against people who use drugs of the illegal nature. That part should have been obvious. They had a choice to make. They made their choice. They popped their pill and got whacked out of it and it wasn't all that it seemed. It left its mark on them. Big time. There is a special forum here on MH for people have tried drugs. I suggested they try that forum and swap idea / experiences. The forum is there for that purpose.

I did answer the post that was asked originally as well. Can't say I didn't do that. Just because I don't feel sorry for the person makes me the bully of the piece. No big deal in that. I am well used to that by now. People can write all they want about me. It isn't bothering me in the slightest at all. All just words. There is a difference between those who fell upon hard times in a natural way and those who fell due to the use of illegal drugs. We have seen many many posts on this forum from people who are here asking about anxiety due to drug abuse of the illegal kind. Unless you tried them you can't answer their posts. Hence I said at first I would leave it to others. But others then began to focus on my first post. So I thought I'd be nice and post a bit about the drug mentioned. Get the topic back on track. But seems people are more concerned about me than the original poster to even help him out. They are posting to me. I am fine and don't need help about drugs and after effects. Help the original poster out.

If you know how to that is. You would have wanted to have tried the drug mentioned to be able to help him. Any roads. I'm off to watch paint dry.

[autum]

you know I do agree with support, which I havent put anyone down...  I am expressing an opinion not with the original person who asked the question...but someone else...  but   ...MrGreen .....I really dont under stand your posts...it seems like you are going with what everyone is saying..... for example your first post:        

"No more needs to be said. Another druggie who ends up with anxiety. Sympathy is so hard to find in some cases.

Then after the last post NeMH, then you changed your mind... so I really dont understand what your opinion really is???  are you against the original question, or do you agree with it???  Im confused?



Autum

[goodeys]

If there is rage it has been generated by your good self. People are not angry they just do not like bigoted opinions from someone that obviously know sh!t about the problem in hand.
Poor Georgie123 is going through a cr*p time, it doesn't matter what has caused his anxiety. Is he supposed to post on the drug abusive forum where not everyone can identify with anxiety? I didn’t realise that we were restricted to one forum, you use the agoraphobia forum so why are you posting on the anxiety forum too? I had a severe bout of anxiety following child birth does that mean I can only accept responses from women that have had children as everyone else has nothing useful to say on anxiety. All of us here on the Anxiety forum have experience of anxiety and that is what Georgie needs support with, he is not asking for someone to necessarily relate to a one time experience with ecstasy.

Half of the world’s problems are created by people who do not have open minds and become prejudiced against a certain type of person because they think they know everything. I would imagine that you think that all immigrants are spongers, all the young girls that have children only do so to get benefits, all Africans have AIDS, all Muslims are extremists, all people that have used drugs are druggies and are lying around the streets in a drug induced coma with needles hanging out of their arms. Everyone is different and you should not judge them and put them in a stereotypical box when you do not know the person.

[scaredjo]

i dont think its good for anxiety sufferers to have rage just makes the stress worse which leads to more symptoms. yeah its good to vent but mine wasnt anger just compassion for georgie who asked for help and his first reply was a total put down, i always think the first reply matters most cause if your really worried and someone replies it gives you a life line. not in georgies case eh?

[MrGreen]

God, I love this topic. Making a lot of people vent. Lot of anger out there. Good to see people let it all go. Will do you all the world of good. That's it. Don't hold onto those feelings. Let it all out. Forum rage. Keep the posts coming now.

[RC184]

The original question Gerogie323 was asking,what causes anxiety?  He tried ectasy and that may have had something to do with him getting an anxiety attack..So if you could not answer that question with a supportive reply why answer the question at all..your say " Like us argagraphobics stick together on another forum" well then why are you replying to this question in such a negative way, if you have never used drugs, then you can not be so judgmental because you have not walked in this person's shoes to know  exactly what triggered his anxiety... I for one tried smoking weed to see if it would calm me down it had an oppisit affect it made my anxiety worse...I agree with scaredjo "well said goodeys" and what do you mean start a new forum with people who have experiemented with drugs??? I have a Norco and Xanax problem they are perscribed by a Dr but that does not mean they are not considered prescription drug abuse they are still drugs...I thought that was what this site was for is to get support and advice not be judged upon ...

[MrGreen]

But how can you give advise if you have never tried drugs yourself? Anxiety we know about. But not from drug use. From what I would class as normal means. Be it car crashes, deaths of loved ones, scares from health. There's a bit of a difference. And the anxiety can vary too. Hence I suggested a new forum for people who may have experiemented with drugs and ended up with anxiety or some other related illness. Best to be with the people you know best. Like us argagraphobics stick together on another forum. Because we all went through the same thing. We understand where the other persons problems are coming from. As another ex drug user would understand were a fellow ex drug users problems are stemming from too.

[scaredjo]

well said goodeys i totally agree it doenst matter how the hell anxiety started, it happens and people need advice and support, georgie i have had a similar experience so can totally relate, so are certain people gonna be nasty and ignore me now? cause i have had excellent support and advice on this forum but no-one knows how my anxiety started could have been my bad relationship, getting pregnant so young (is that acceptable) deaths in my family or even extacy which may i add i tried once and totally hated im now so paranoid of being spiked when i go out.
i think its so wrong to label georgie a druggie lots of people have experimented with bad results, and so regret it and suffer in the future.
come on guys were not here to judge but to help and advise anxiety sufferers no matter how it started

[goodeys]

Hi Guys,
Stopped along the site this morning to see how everyone is doing and I have to say that I am utterly mortified at some of the responses GEORGIE123's original post. I have always found everyone to be totally supportive on this site but this is more like bullying what is going on here now. If someone is suffering from Anxiety does it matter 'Why' they are suffering from it? I haven't seen a clause on here that says the forum is only open to people who have always had anxiety. All anxiety stems from something whether it is a chemical that has caused it, a life experience or they are just an anxious person and have been all of their lives.

If you just wanted to throw in your opinions on drug use then I think that you are on the wrong forum. This is a place to help people not judge them. Everyone knows that things can have a negatative affect on them but as with anything you don't always let that stop you. Airtravel can result in a crash, learning to drive means you could have an accident, smoking could cause cancer, having a high pressured job can result in stress, having children can result in post natal depression. A whole host of things can either make or ruin our lives but we have to chose to live and sometimes the wrong decisions are made. Trying drugs does not make you a druggie, becoming dependent on drugs is another thing.

Anxiety ***** no matter how you got it and just because you were born screwed up doesn't mean that you have the upper hand and are now lord and master of all things anxiety related.

[autum]

to my post prior to this one, if misunderstood, I am talking about people who have tried it and know the effects on them, but dont try and fix the problem...  Those people who just want sympathy to rely on... if that makes since...  yes I admit, I have tried a drug once....but I stopped for the fact that I know it was tearing my life away, and making me someone Im not...  I did drink like crazy....but I stopped that too due to knowing that was the wrong way for me to go...  anyways what Im trying to say..is that I believe that peeps that are trying to get help yes they do deserve a chance...but peeps that dont and just want your sympathy they dont...  well Im not good at expressing what I mean...so hopefully this makes since....


Autum