what causes anxiety?

[GEORGIE323]

what caused my anxiety was because i tried ecstacy...... im wondering if anyone else has gotten anxiety because they used drugs?  and what else can cause anxiety?

[MrGreen]

No more needs to be said. Another druggie who ends up with anxiety. Sympathy is so hard to find in some cases.

[tsands]

I need advice badly! I am a mom of a 17yr old addict(ecstacy,pot and now hydrocodone). I took him yesterday to be evaluated for intensive outpatient. I have tried to find a facility in or out patient that will take him and keep him. All they keep telling me is he can walk anytime he wants if he doesnt want to be there. Well, guess what! He does not want help and so therefore, I cant get him help! What happened to him being a minor and us having control? I cant believe there isnt a place on this planet that cant lock him in. He is ruining our lives and his and just cant see any of it. I honestly feel that if the drugs dont kill him, he will kill himself. I found out yesterday, that hes doing a little dealing too. I am running out of time with him as he turns 18 soon. Please someone help us!

[jdtm]

My mother has severe anxiety caused, in part, by three major doses of morphine.  Unfortunately, this was the pain relief medication used after undergoing three major surgeries.  Today she is 84 years of age and a "basket case".  She has always had some anxiety (an inherited trait, I suspect), but since the surgeries (and the anxiety issues increased dramatically with each additional surgery) there appears to be no solution.  Such a sad case!

[NeMH]

mine were also caused by drugs. And I believe that sympaty should be given to anyone with anxiety. I find its the people who try drugs to "be cool" and who are oblivious to the world that run free and enjoy drugs and life and have no worries. Its people like me who took drugs because he wanted an escape from the world and partly peer pressure and who now regretts it and will never try it again but is now stuck with this hell that deserve at least for people not to judge. There are people doing drugs....injecting needles in their eyes...robbing people....who feel fine...I tryed it for a month or two and now have my life ruined......

Whatever you think, upto you. Drugs arent always bad....if u have anxiety from drugs its usually cuz u were anxious before and the drug brang it out of you. If you arent sure your going to enjoy it dont bother, seriously. Biggest mistake of my life.

Oh and for those who are going to judge....some anti-depressants you are on now are probably doing more damage to your brains chemicals and body than some illegal drugs...think of that ;)

Im sorry...im just so annoyed at the "anxiety"

[MrGreen]

They can no longer hold people against their wishes. You have to sign papers, that is the patient, stating that you are there of your free will and you will accept whatever treatment they wish to use. You can also sign yourself back out on day 1 if you wish. The only way they would keep someone is if they considered that person to be a threat to himself or those around him. Sad really. Have to want to committ suicide or kill your family before they admit you to any mental hospitals these days. Public ones especially. Private take anybody because you are paying. But they must be willing to go in as a patient as well.

[John23a]

you can get a panic attack from using drugs which can later on cause anxiety...

[autum]

I have anxiety, but I havent done drugs, I dont drink ect ect...  

Also No there isnt any sympathy for peeps who are druggies...because no one holds a gun to your head saying do it!  Drugs are your choice...  and peer pressure, I dont believe in..because I have had peeps try and get me to do drugs... so take responsibility for your actions...   You are the one who pics it up and do it... no one else...  You are your own person...and not anyone can make you someone your not...  


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[daffysoundz]

we all make mistakes in our lives and we need to learn from them, i have read a post from a guy who had a panic attack by using pot, and everytime he use it he would get an attack, NOW HE really dont deserve any sympathy, if you just tried it and had a bad effect from it and you have learned your lesson then we shouldnt kill you for it. the hardest part is that you have been there and you will not go back, we should not judge people because of there bad habits, we all have one or two, give the guy a break, he's young and needs help, no one jugdes you when you do dirt, we're not here for that, i know im still new here but i know wrong from right, and i know its wrong to make someone feel like $hit when they already feel like $hit, its like kicking someone when there down.so if no one wants to answer your post, ill be one to say yes pot, ex and any drug can bring on panic attacts which can lead to anxiety.

i hope that help and i hope that dont stop you from posting again

[MrGreen]

But we got here from the non drug abuse road. We all had the same chances in life and we opted not to go near drugs. Never feel any sympathy for drug users I see on the streets. They'd just as easy put a knife in your back whilst you were feeling sorry for them. I'd rather my sympathy went elsewhere. To people who ended up with anxiety due to a realistic bad turn in life. Not through drug abuse.

[RC184]

That is a real s***** thing to say, if people are looking on this site for support maybe not so much sympathy ....Why not be their to lend support to that person not sit their on your high horse and look down to make them feel worse the they already do... If  people come to this forum is to look for support if you can not be support system for them why say negative things ...Just because a medication is given to you by a doctor does that not make it a drug that you are taking and sometimes those medications can also  lead up to getting anxiety....People don't come to this forum to be kicked when they are down so think next time you write if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything!

[GEORGIE323]

if anything i joined this site for support on my problems not for people put me down... if anything i asked for help not for your opinions on people who use drugs so next time just dont say anything and keep your thoughts to yourself...

[MrGreen]

Oh bless. Forgive me please. Let me share your pain. In fact I would like to take your pain from you. Can't say fairer than that now can we. For nothing as well. What more could you ask for. Support? OK. I'll give you support. Here's a crutch. Only support you will get off me. You make your own problems by dabbling with the drugs. Now you have to learn how to sort it out.

[MrGreen]

Because I am so lovable I have decided to give you the low down on your drug of choice.

What you took most certainly would not have been 100% ecstasy. Dealers mix and match that sh!t up with cocaine and pcp and other subtances.

Ecstasy causes serotonin levels to drop below normal, which impairs the brain's ability to learn, retain information and regulate mood. It appears that Ecstasy causes serotonin receptors, which allow the serotonin to fire in the brain, to shrink from overuse. Some evidence shows that restoration of serotonin receptors is possible with continued abstinence from the drug, but that people who have never taken Ecstasy have more functioning serotonin receptors than those who have.
Ecstasy raises your body temperature and heart rate. Combine this with hot conditions, the physical activity of dancing in a party or club, and not drinking water, and the greatest immediate danger of MDMA is heatstroke. Heatstroke (or hyperthermia) is the primary cause of death from Ecstasy. Someone taking Ecstasy should make sure to drink about a pint of water every hour while on Ecstasy, sipping, rather than drinking it all at once. Also, taking breaks from dancing on a hot dance floor to cool off is an important way to reduce the risk of heatstroke. Ecstasy-related deaths are relatively rare. However, emergency room hospital visits are on the rise.
Ecstasy causes the release of norepinephrine, which increases your heart rate dramatically and can be dangerous for people with cardiovascular disease or weakness. Dehydration can also lead to liver or kidney failure. Some people report bad emotional reactions to Ecstasy including confusion, depression, sleep problems, drug craving, severe anxiety, and paranoia, sometimes lasting long after taking the drug. Using Ecstasy with alcohol and/or other drugs can increase the risk of adverse effects. Alcohol is dehydrating, too, and its depressant effects can mask the stimulant properties of Ecstasy misleading the user about how intoxicated they really are.


No Sainthood required.

[autum]

to my post prior to this one, if misunderstood, I am talking about people who have tried it and know the effects on them, but dont try and fix the problem...  Those people who just want sympathy to rely on... if that makes since...  yes I admit, I have tried a drug once....but I stopped for the fact that I know it was tearing my life away, and making me someone Im not...  I did drink like crazy....but I stopped that too due to knowing that was the wrong way for me to go...  anyways what Im trying to say..is that I believe that peeps that are trying to get help yes they do deserve a chance...but peeps that dont and just want your sympathy they dont...  well Im not good at expressing what I mean...so hopefully this makes since....


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[goodeys]

Hi Guys,
Stopped along the site this morning to see how everyone is doing and I have to say that I am utterly mortified at some of the responses GEORGIE123's original post. I have always found everyone to be totally supportive on this site but this is more like bullying what is going on here now. If someone is suffering from Anxiety does it matter 'Why' they are suffering from it? I haven't seen a clause on here that says the forum is only open to people who have always had anxiety. All anxiety stems from something whether it is a chemical that has caused it, a life experience or they are just an anxious person and have been all of their lives.

If you just wanted to throw in your opinions on drug use then I think that you are on the wrong forum. This is a place to help people not judge them. Everyone knows that things can have a negatative affect on them but as with anything you don't always let that stop you. Airtravel can result in a crash, learning to drive means you could have an accident, smoking could cause cancer, having a high pressured job can result in stress, having children can result in post natal depression. A whole host of things can either make or ruin our lives but we have to chose to live and sometimes the wrong decisions are made. Trying drugs does not make you a druggie, becoming dependent on drugs is another thing.

Anxiety ***** no matter how you got it and just because you were born screwed up doesn't mean that you have the upper hand and are now lord and master of all things anxiety related.

[scaredjo]

well said goodeys i totally agree it doenst matter how the hell anxiety started, it happens and people need advice and support, georgie i have had a similar experience so can totally relate, so are certain people gonna be nasty and ignore me now? cause i have had excellent support and advice on this forum but no-one knows how my anxiety started could have been my bad relationship, getting pregnant so young (is that acceptable) deaths in my family or even extacy which may i add i tried once and totally hated im now so paranoid of being spiked when i go out.
i think its so wrong to label georgie a druggie lots of people have experimented with bad results, and so regret it and suffer in the future.
come on guys were not here to judge but to help and advise anxiety sufferers no matter how it started

[MrGreen]

But how can you give advise if you have never tried drugs yourself? Anxiety we know about. But not from drug use. From what I would class as normal means. Be it car crashes, deaths of loved ones, scares from health. There's a bit of a difference. And the anxiety can vary too. Hence I suggested a new forum for people who may have experiemented with drugs and ended up with anxiety or some other related illness. Best to be with the people you know best. Like us argagraphobics stick together on another forum. Because we all went through the same thing. We understand where the other persons problems are coming from. As another ex drug user would understand were a fellow ex drug users problems are stemming from too.

[RC184]

The original question Gerogie323 was asking,what causes anxiety?  He tried ectasy and that may have had something to do with him getting an anxiety attack..So if you could not answer that question with a supportive reply why answer the question at all..your say " Like us argagraphobics stick together on another forum" well then why are you replying to this question in such a negative way, if you have never used drugs, then you can not be so judgmental because you have not walked in this person's shoes to know  exactly what triggered his anxiety... I for one tried smoking weed to see if it would calm me down it had an oppisit affect it made my anxiety worse...I agree with scaredjo "well said goodeys" and what do you mean start a new forum with people who have experiemented with drugs??? I have a Norco and Xanax problem they are perscribed by a Dr but that does not mean they are not considered prescription drug abuse they are still drugs...I thought that was what this site was for is to get support and advice not be judged upon ...

[MrGreen]

God, I love this topic. Making a lot of people vent. Lot of anger out there. Good to see people let it all go. Will do you all the world of good. That's it. Don't hold onto those feelings. Let it all out. Forum rage. Keep the posts coming now.

[scaredjo]

i dont think its good for anxiety sufferers to have rage just makes the stress worse which leads to more symptoms. yeah its good to vent but mine wasnt anger just compassion for georgie who asked for help and his first reply was a total put down, i always think the first reply matters most cause if your really worried and someone replies it gives you a life line. not in georgies case eh?

[goodeys]

If there is rage it has been generated by your good self. People are not angry they just do not like bigoted opinions from someone that obviously know sh!t about the problem in hand.
Poor Georgie123 is going through a cr*p time, it doesn't matter what has caused his anxiety. Is he supposed to post on the drug abusive forum where not everyone can identify with anxiety? I didn’t realise that we were restricted to one forum, you use the agoraphobia forum so why are you posting on the anxiety forum too? I had a severe bout of anxiety following child birth does that mean I can only accept responses from women that have had children as everyone else has nothing useful to say on anxiety. All of us here on the Anxiety forum have experience of anxiety and that is what Georgie needs support with, he is not asking for someone to necessarily relate to a one time experience with ecstasy.

Half of the world’s problems are created by people who do not have open minds and become prejudiced against a certain type of person because they think they know everything. I would imagine that you think that all immigrants are spongers, all the young girls that have children only do so to get benefits, all Africans have AIDS, all Muslims are extremists, all people that have used drugs are druggies and are lying around the streets in a drug induced coma with needles hanging out of their arms. Everyone is different and you should not judge them and put them in a stereotypical box when you do not know the person.

[autum]

you know I do agree with support, which I havent put anyone down...  I am expressing an opinion not with the original person who asked the question...but someone else...  but   ...MrGreen .....I really dont under stand your posts...it seems like you are going with what everyone is saying..... for example your first post:        

"No more needs to be said. Another druggie who ends up with anxiety. Sympathy is so hard to find in some cases.

Then after the last post NeMH, then you changed your mind... so I really dont understand what your opinion really is???  are you against the original question, or do you agree with it???  Im confused?



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[MrGreen]

Let me make it clear. I am against people who use drugs of the illegal nature. That part should have been obvious. They had a choice to make. They made their choice. They popped their pill and got whacked out of it and it wasn't all that it seemed. It left its mark on them. Big time. There is a special forum here on MH for people have tried drugs. I suggested they try that forum and swap idea / experiences. The forum is there for that purpose.

I did answer the post that was asked originally as well. Can't say I didn't do that. Just because I don't feel sorry for the person makes me the bully of the piece. No big deal in that. I am well used to that by now. People can write all they want about me. It isn't bothering me in the slightest at all. All just words. There is a difference between those who fell upon hard times in a natural way and those who fell due to the use of illegal drugs. We have seen many many posts on this forum from people who are here asking about anxiety due to drug abuse of the illegal kind. Unless you tried them you can't answer their posts. Hence I said at first I would leave it to others. But others then began to focus on my first post. So I thought I'd be nice and post a bit about the drug mentioned. Get the topic back on track. But seems people are more concerned about me than the original poster to even help him out. They are posting to me. I am fine and don't need help about drugs and after effects. Help the original poster out.

If you know how to that is. You would have wanted to have tried the drug mentioned to be able to help him. Any roads. I'm off to watch paint dry.

[scaredjo]

i just think that everyone with anxiety or worries has a right to post here, no matter wot the cause is, everyone has a story as to how it started and who cares how it started? so long as were here 4 each other wot the hell does it matter?????????? lets not judge people wether it be drugs or any other reason if people need help getting to the root of the anxiety HELP THEM if people need advice on symptoms or cures HELP THEM thought that was wot medhelp was all about
come on people