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Mid Back Pain After Rest !
Hi,
For about 3 Months now, I have had this pain around the mid back ( around the Diaphragn- just below the ribs- on both sides but more pronounced on the right ).
The pain comes on after I have been sleeping for more that 6-7 hours. When I get up ,the pain gradually subsides and later on during the day it is almost gone (although not completly).
I would describe the pain as a dull ache but the pain sharpens and gets worse when I twist my torso or flip from one side to another when I have been in bed for longer than 6-7 Hrs.
I don't seem to have any tenderness upon touching the area though.
Because of this pain, I cannot lie in bed for longer than 7 Hrs.
The only other unusual symptom I have noticed is excessive burping so much that sometimes it makes me feel nauseous.
I don't know if this excessive burping has anything to do with the pain I described above but I seem to have developped it around the same time as the back pain.( Although I am not 100% sure of that either)... I read somewhere that digestive problems can sometimes cause pain in the Back...
FYI,I am a 38 old male,overwheight but otherwise healthy ( or so I think)
I haven't been to a Dr yet because I am just too nervous.
Has anybody ever experienced similar symptoms ?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Regards.
For about 3 Months now, I have had this pain around the mid back ( around the Diaphragn- just below the ribs- on both sides but more pronounced on the right ).
The pain comes on after I have been sleeping for more that 6-7 hours. When I get up ,the pain gradually subsides and later on during the day it is almost gone (although not completly).
I would describe the pain as a dull ache but the pain sharpens and gets worse when I twist my torso or flip from one side to another when I have been in bed for longer than 6-7 Hrs.
I don't seem to have any tenderness upon touching the area though.
Because of this pain, I cannot lie in bed for longer than 7 Hrs.
The only other unusual symptom I have noticed is excessive burping so much that sometimes it makes me feel nauseous.
I don't know if this excessive burping has anything to do with the pain I described above but I seem to have developped it around the same time as the back pain.( Although I am not 100% sure of that either)... I read somewhere that digestive problems can sometimes cause pain in the Back...
FYI,I am a 38 old male,overwheight but otherwise healthy ( or so I think)
I haven't been to a Dr yet because I am just too nervous.
Has anybody ever experienced similar symptoms ?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Regards.
Here I am awake at 4am again. For me it is definitely kidney pain. I have had kidney stones before..very painful. I don't drink enough water and had a sauna yesterday. Despite drinking 2 liters of water in the sauna.. I am paying for it tonight. Left side, mid back, aching and throbbing, pain eases when I get up and move around. Just taken painkillers panadol..pain easing a little..drank lots of water too. I often get this, particularly after a hot day, long walk or just absentmindedly not drinking enough, having a glass of wine before bed or drinking coffee during the day ..a diuretic. Thinking of you all
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jmp.uk That is a real good probability. It seems everyone had different things but this is a new one that might have a bearing on the pain. I usually have a few glasses of wine before going to bed each night but lately I have not had the pain but I know it will come back...sort of comes and goes when it wants. I will be watching the football games today and will consume I am sure more wine than I normally do. I will do this for medical reasons..lol and post my comments on the outcome. What you do for science and the medical field..wish me luck and hopefully we will have a cure...though I would hate to give up my wine at night...what a bummer.....
I have read with interest all the comments about probable kidney pain early in the morning. I am 45 and first had this pain 20 years ago after a night of drinking heavily - pain both sides in the kidney area which went soon after getting out of bed. The doctor put it down to muscle pain due to being in a 'comatose' state. I have experienced it a few times over the ensuing years - always after drinking a bit too much alcohol. However, over the past year or so, I seem to suffer if I have more than one or two alcoholic drinks the night before and also, I believe, if I consume too many toxins the previous day. Could it be dehydration causing the pain? - the kidneys being inflamed by the concentration of toxins?
I have found that sleeping in my recliner seems to do the trick. No pain all night. But...who wants to sleep in a recliner for the rest of their life? NOT ME. So, I am currently experimenting with my mattress by placing cushions underneath it to prop me up to a more slanted position. It seems to work as I have slept on it twice and did not wake with any pain. For me, it seems to be laying flat on my back that contributes to the pain. So, the next step will be to buy and mattress wedge to prop my mattress up indefinitely. Hope this is the answer. At least I can say that these changes have allowed me to have the only full nights sleep with no pain in 9 months.
I have found that sleeping in my recliner seems to do the trick. No pain all night. But...who wants to sleep in a recliner for the rest of their life? NOT ME. So, I am currently experimenting with my mattress by placing cushions underneath it to prop me up to a more slanted position. It seems to work as I have slept on it twice and did not wake with any pain. For me, it seems to be laying flat on my back that contributes to the pain. So, the next step will be to buy and mattress wedge to prop my mattress up indefinitely. Hope this is the answer. At least I can say that these changes have allowed me to have the only full nights sleep with no pain in 9 months.
I had an iodine CT-Scan in the past 3 weeks. Everything was clear in the urinary tract and gall bladder. No tumors.
However, very small kidney stones were noted, but Dr. says should not be source of pain. Also (I forget the term) the kidney showed something like a small "bruise" in the upper portion of the kidney. Again, the doc says this could not be the source of pain that hits my right flank area after sleeping on my right-side. This pain forces me to sleep on my back or left side which I am not accustom to doing. Doc hopes the pain will go away with the passing of time. I guess, I will wait it out.
However, very small kidney stones were noted, but Dr. says should not be source of pain. Also (I forget the term) the kidney showed something like a small "bruise" in the upper portion of the kidney. Again, the doc says this could not be the source of pain that hits my right flank area after sleeping on my right-side. This pain forces me to sleep on my back or left side which I am not accustom to doing. Doc hopes the pain will go away with the passing of time. I guess, I will wait it out.
It is 5:45 AM and I, once again, awakened with extreme pain in my entire rib cage...as though someone had taken my body and twisted it. Because this is the third week I have experienced this nightly pain, I decided to search the web for possible causes. (There is some solace in knowing that I am not alone with this problem.) Similar to all of you, I wake up after 5-6 hours of sleep and my entire rib cage is extremely sore and the condition becomes worse when I take a deep breath. I feel as though I had a waterskiing accident or someone heavy has been laying on my chest all night. After getting out of bed, there is no chance for me to lay down again. Because, as soon as my chest hits the bed, I experience excrutiating pain. I am okay after 30 minutes of walking around, but I can duplicate the rib pain by forcing myself to stand erect. I first thought my problem was bone related, but now I think it is a muscular problem. Like many others in this forum, I have experienced a recent weight gain (20 lbs), I have been sedentary for months, and I also have acid reflux. Not sure about the correlation. My sympathy to all of you.
Just doing some research for a client with these symtoms. I have come across a muscle called posterior serratus inferior. It connects on the caudal borders of the last 4 ribs and spinous processes of T11, T12, L1, L2. It stabilizes lower ribs against upward pull of diaphragm during exhalation. Just a thought, it seems to be the exact area most of you feel discomfort. A massage therapist might be a good next step. I send you all healing energy.
I have had the same symptoms for the past 5 or 6 months. Althogh its started as digestive discomforts, recently it has developed to a constant bloated feeling of abdomen and a dull mid back pain. I think I might visit a doctor over the weekend(previous visits have been dismissed as poor diet and low water intake). I read somewhere that they could be signs of a stomach ulcer.
Well, after several months of pain, I decided to see my dr. All blood and urine test and ultrasound of gall bladder is negative. Dr. thinks muscoskeletol....blah blah blah!(my chiro disagrees) I have a memory foam bed and the pain is actually worse than traditional bed, eventhough I have the pain on a traditional bed and now even resting in the recliner. I am baffled and tired of it, but tonight after reading what others have posted, I will try the thin pillow! btw, I am 5'1" and live in Alabama.
I think the only thing everyone has in common is getting up at 4 oclock in the morning. Size weight sex eating habits are all varied. The pillow thing worked for me and in my case I think it was poor posture in bed. When I had it bad the only way to relieve it for a while was to sit up and try to sleep..most of that was short lived and I would just get up. The one thin pillow works for me.
ive been having early morning (5am) back spasms since late march 2004. seems to wax and wane (currently fairly intense on right side near kidney). i am curious if there is some regionality to this or other lifestyle factors that we might all share?
i live in san francisco, am vegan (eat no animal products), probably have a low calcium intake, low stress, drink coffee, very lightweight (118 lbs). when this started i had a 1 day flu -- that night i woke up with really intense spasms behind my left shoulder blade. it was intense for several months and lessened for a while (i started doing back exercises to strengthen my muscles, which seemed to help). right now it is bad again. do any of you recall a flu when it started? im wondering if it is something called 'post viral syndrome'.
i live in san francisco, am vegan (eat no animal products), probably have a low calcium intake, low stress, drink coffee, very lightweight (118 lbs). when this started i had a 1 day flu -- that night i woke up with really intense spasms behind my left shoulder blade. it was intense for several months and lessened for a while (i started doing back exercises to strengthen my muscles, which seemed to help). right now it is bad again. do any of you recall a flu when it started? im wondering if it is something called 'post viral syndrome'.
My christmas present - I guess !! Until about two weeks ago I have never heard of nor had the problems which people describe on this blog. I am in my early 40's, healthy, fit, 5'9" male. I suddenly started waking at 4am with mid back pain and pain in the front at the lower rib area. Like others have mentioned here I cannot feel the pain by pressing on the outside. If I get up the pain gradually subsides over about half an hour or so. I don't think anything has changed in my exercizing, my diet, or my stress levels in the past couple of years. If anything my stess levels are very low right now. I have not yet gone to my doctor yet ( he would barely recognize me for how infrequently have ever had to seek medical attention) but intend to go soon. I am actively - like many of you I am sure - trying to research this problem and if possible isolate what the change may be. I will post any changes or new information and look forward to seeing if anyone else has something new to offer.
Cheers.
Cheers.
hmmmm, lol. i think this could still work if your posture means you bend your back when your sleeping. But it isnt just this because there would be loads of other people with this problem and doctors would be more aware. http://www.medhelp.org/forums/urology/messages/30281a.html
this page is quite helpful and it could be to do with back flow of urine or something. Its definately to do with sleeping horizontally and the intensity is to do with how much food i drink i consume the evening before. Im stuck for ideas apart from that. I once swallowed a marble, lol, think that could of done anything? ...yes it did come out the other end :P
any one else swallowed anything or have any ideas?
this page is quite helpful and it could be to do with back flow of urine or something. Its definately to do with sleeping horizontally and the intensity is to do with how much food i drink i consume the evening before. Im stuck for ideas apart from that. I once swallowed a marble, lol, think that could of done anything? ...yes it did come out the other end :P
any one else swallowed anything or have any ideas?
I'm only 5'3. . .
To Crofty Just to let you know that I am 6 ft 4
im getting this pain too! every morning i get a ache that wont go away until i go to the toilet. i used to sleep with 2 pillows with my arm proping my head up even more underneath them and this is definately something to do with it. I am only using 1 pillow now but still use my arm underneath but if i take away the pillow and just rest my head on mattress i can feel the pain easing but i need at least 1 pillow. I think its to do with the way your back bends when your head is high up. Ive been to see a doctor and he says it could be to do with me being tall, a musculoskeletal pain. Which is probably true, but im not that tall, and im not putting up with the pain because of that, and why do i get the pain and not all tall people? A couple of nights ago i didnt get the pain and was chuffed for a while the i realised that this was because i was sleeping in an armchair and so my body was upright. I went for an ultrasound the other day but that didnt show anything abnormal apparently. Something funny is going on inside but i dunno what, im going to see a urologist in a few weeks, hopefully he can help.
We should help each other by reporting any diagnosing or anything and should see if we have something in common, is everyone tall and using a few pillows? hope this helps, we will find an answer
We should help each other by reporting any diagnosing or anything and should see if we have something in common, is everyone tall and using a few pillows? hope this helps, we will find an answer
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