Aa
i am so close
i am giving up i want to take that bottle of pills now but i am scared it wont work again i cant take any more pain i need to find something to get me out iof the way of feeling i cant do anything right i say everything wrong well i am in so much apia nd noone cares i am just a whiner and i guess no one really cares around here about me as long as i do every thuing they want me to do.
I find tramadol works pretty well for the physical pain, and it seems to be preferable over things like oxycontin or hydrocodone. But like I said, her physician should prescribe it, and the business about siezures is important. The VA tried to get me to take all sorts of things for depression, but in my experience situational depression is treated much more effectively by going after the root causes instead of masking it with drugs. The chief cause of mine is being in love with two women.. what's helped me most is to concentrate on the almost unbelievably good qualities of the one I'm married to instead of dwelling on the one I can't wake up next to. In other words, find the silver lining behind the cloud.
The main thing I'd like to impart, though, is that it's better to make drastic changes in life than to abandon life altogether. Suicide isn't reversible. Unfortunately, I'm a terrible communicator and not too bright, so often my messages say things I had no intention of saying. However, when I read about someone considering suicide, I've got to try. I've been there and it's not a good place to be. Just like with the war, we survivors feel impelled to impart what we learned the hard way to people who may be able to escape the route we took. And whether by "meds" or by changing one's life to suit one's needs, things will get better for anyone who "toughs it out"... well, unless we're talking about intolerable physical pain that the physicians can't or won't help with. Even then, however, a person needs to listen to the advice of knowledgeable people such as are found here and act on that advice before considering a permanant "solution".
No one considering suicide should give it another thought before watching a sunrise from the beach in Aguadilla or their personal equivalent. Just like with drug addiction, if a complete change in environment is needed, then that's what should be pursued. Just my opinion, of course.
-El Dave
The main thing I'd like to impart, though, is that it's better to make drastic changes in life than to abandon life altogether. Suicide isn't reversible. Unfortunately, I'm a terrible communicator and not too bright, so often my messages say things I had no intention of saying. However, when I read about someone considering suicide, I've got to try. I've been there and it's not a good place to be. Just like with the war, we survivors feel impelled to impart what we learned the hard way to people who may be able to escape the route we took. And whether by "meds" or by changing one's life to suit one's needs, things will get better for anyone who "toughs it out"... well, unless we're talking about intolerable physical pain that the physicians can't or won't help with. Even then, however, a person needs to listen to the advice of knowledgeable people such as are found here and act on that advice before considering a permanant "solution".
No one considering suicide should give it another thought before watching a sunrise from the beach in Aguadilla or their personal equivalent. Just like with drug addiction, if a complete change in environment is needed, then that's what should be pursued. Just my opinion, of course.
-El Dave
First of all, keep your mind occupied with other things. Read, listen to music, walk (exercise is imperitive for those with depression). Is it a possibility that it could be your meds. (Unless you have the right combination these drugs can cause the very thing they are supposed to be treating). If you are having suicidal thoughts, get yourself to the ER. Or you may need an extra antipsycotic drug like abilify in addition to what you are now taking. You need to contact your doctor and have him look at your med dosage and or type. In the meantime get up and get moving. Hugs
yes i see a therapist weekly and i do have a pdoc but i really dont care for her trying to get into another real soon my old one really overmedicated me .
no i have mental pain as well as body apin. i have siffered depression for years been in and out of hospitals up till 18 ionths ago went through ECt at one time too. i have DID and depression I been having a lot of flashbacks the past few months. thanks all
It would be appreciated instead of semantics let's get a bit more supportive, that's what we are here for.
Physical pain can cause such innordinate amounts of depression. I have what's been termed as Chronic Pain Disorder, and I still don't get taken seriously. It is one of the leading causes of suicide in every socio-economical sectors
I've been in so much pain physically, that I've thought of suicide. No one believed my pain, even after postive results from my CT. My current pdoc, still thinks it's anxiety. I've had to go over to my GP to explain my tests results to my pdoc.(boy was my GP ticked off) I'm finally getting on a standby wait list, basically the wait list FOR the wait list. I was using heavy amounts of Tylenol 1's, which I believe is Tramadol in the UK if I'm not mistaken. Taking too much of that will really wreck your kidneys. I'm on an mood stabilizer that "off label" is used for chronic pain sufferers. Since starting that, I've gone down from 30 T1's a day to maybe 6. The brain is a strange thing. Sometimes the pain receptors need a kick start.
At first and no offense, I thought Debrae was mentioning emotional pain not physical, but really your brain is involved in pain, regardless of where it is. Have you been to a specialist? There is a MH community that deals with chronic pain. But we will try to be supportive to you for at least the emotional part. Hang in there.
Physical pain can cause such innordinate amounts of depression. I have what's been termed as Chronic Pain Disorder, and I still don't get taken seriously. It is one of the leading causes of suicide in every socio-economical sectors
I've been in so much pain physically, that I've thought of suicide. No one believed my pain, even after postive results from my CT. My current pdoc, still thinks it's anxiety. I've had to go over to my GP to explain my tests results to my pdoc.(boy was my GP ticked off) I'm finally getting on a standby wait list, basically the wait list FOR the wait list. I was using heavy amounts of Tylenol 1's, which I believe is Tramadol in the UK if I'm not mistaken. Taking too much of that will really wreck your kidneys. I'm on an mood stabilizer that "off label" is used for chronic pain sufferers. Since starting that, I've gone down from 30 T1's a day to maybe 6. The brain is a strange thing. Sometimes the pain receptors need a kick start.
At first and no offense, I thought Debrae was mentioning emotional pain not physical, but really your brain is involved in pain, regardless of where it is. Have you been to a specialist? There is a MH community that deals with chronic pain. But we will try to be supportive to you for at least the emotional part. Hang in there.
Maybe my note to you is my oops. I thought debrae's post was all about mental pain since this is a depression forum, but now I see why you think she may be talking about physical pain.
Debrae, please clarify.
Debrae, please clarify.
Tramadol is a painkiller and is never to be used for depression. Do not play doctor and fake one illness to effectively self prescribe for another.
I was where you're at a few months ago. Or perhaps it was a year, I dunno, no sense of time. But anyway, nothing has really changed, all the depressing factors still exist, but I'm no longer suicidal. A serious attempt landed me in the booby hatch for observation and got me to thinking a bit more clearly about it.
Tickets to Puerto Rico are a hundred bucks from central Florida. Before wasting yourself, sell the TV and things and fly down there. Watch the sun set from the Parque de Colon in Aguadilla and see if you still want to die. Better to make a drastic change than a permanent, irrevocable one.
You might want to get your doc to write you a prescription for tramadol. They won't give you enough, but if you have a script for it you can get more over the internet, and I find that 400-800 mg a day goes a long way toward making the day tolerable. Mine was "diagnosed" as "fibromyalgia", which is another way of saying "not able to be diagnosed". Some folks will claim tramadol is addictive, but I find that not to be the case. If you're subject to seizures, though, you want to stay away from it.
I sure am sorry your ol' man says "get over it". As a male, I'll apologize for him.
Is there anything you can think of that might get you to feel better? If so, do it. Hop on a motorcycle and cruise, or whatever.. it beats being gone. There's good coming, you can take that to the bank, and if you're gone you miss the good along with the bad. It's far better to find ways to deal with the bad or to find the good. The problem with suicide is that you can't undo it.
If there's anything I could possibly do to help you, I'd surely do it.
-El Dave
Is the pain the whole thing?
Tickets to Puerto Rico are a hundred bucks from central Florida. Before wasting yourself, sell the TV and things and fly down there. Watch the sun set from the Parque de Colon in Aguadilla and see if you still want to die. Better to make a drastic change than a permanent, irrevocable one.
You might want to get your doc to write you a prescription for tramadol. They won't give you enough, but if you have a script for it you can get more over the internet, and I find that 400-800 mg a day goes a long way toward making the day tolerable. Mine was "diagnosed" as "fibromyalgia", which is another way of saying "not able to be diagnosed". Some folks will claim tramadol is addictive, but I find that not to be the case. If you're subject to seizures, though, you want to stay away from it.
I sure am sorry your ol' man says "get over it". As a male, I'll apologize for him.
Is there anything you can think of that might get you to feel better? If so, do it. Hop on a motorcycle and cruise, or whatever.. it beats being gone. There's good coming, you can take that to the bank, and if you're gone you miss the good along with the bad. It's far better to find ways to deal with the bad or to find the good. The problem with suicide is that you can't undo it.
If there's anything I could possibly do to help you, I'd surely do it.
-El Dave
Is the pain the whole thing?
Head to your local ER
This is as much of an emergecy as a heart attack! You will get support there, and stability, as well inpatient therapy, and sometimes they have support groups there as well. I went into hopital July 26th, because I was in the planning stages like you. You know you want to live, or you wouldn't have written here right? Hang on, this will pass. Do you have a psychiatrist? If you don't you should. But once you have been hospitalized they will give you one, and you will have one after you leave, which has helped me tons.
You will get through this, but you need medical intervention.
Keep in touch,
LeftCoastChick
Depression Co-Community Leader
This is as much of an emergecy as a heart attack! You will get support there, and stability, as well inpatient therapy, and sometimes they have support groups there as well. I went into hopital July 26th, because I was in the planning stages like you. You know you want to live, or you wouldn't have written here right? Hang on, this will pass. Do you have a psychiatrist? If you don't you should. But once you have been hospitalized they will give you one, and you will have one after you leave, which has helped me tons.
You will get through this, but you need medical intervention.
Keep in touch,
LeftCoastChick
Depression Co-Community Leader
What pills are you referring to taking? Does your therapist have you on any medication?
yes i have talke to my therapsit and he knows whats going on i will try to talk to him tomorrow as well if he is working . i have tried talking to my husband but he dont understand i feel like i am in a dead end and a bad case of fog .
Have you talked to any professional such as a doctor, counsellor or psychiatrist about your feelings? If you are thinking of suicide, it is a dangerous time in your life to be trying to resolve your problems alone.
Write back.
Write back.
The pills may not work this time either,I have seen many cases try to od, some are left with brain parts dead some cant move body parts, they have to be bathed and fed for life, they are paralyzed. Depression and pain can be a terrible terrible thing, but then maybe somewhere you may find help. Trust in God and keep on trying luck jo
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