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I have the worst luck....cancer again?
ok so last june my 8 yr old golden died of mast cell cancer. We were pretty surprised as 8 in our minds is young also we always fed high quality foods such as acana.
anyway the month after we adopted a great pyrenees called winston and he has been with us for the past year.
Anyway I have had winston for about a year now and have been super focused on trying to limit his exposure to chemicals. I give him interceptor once very two months and he is not on flea/tick meds.
Winston is 3 yrs old....and great pyrs are healthy dogs.
well we went to the vet saturday after seeing a lump and the vet said it looked like a tick bite(i pulled what i thought was a tick off there so it makes sense) but to use antibiotic and it should heal in 72 hours. Well it never healed and we went back today because we found another round lump on his back leg!!!(i know ipulled something off of this lump but nto sure if it was a tick)
Anyway vet told us he;d be surprised if it was cancer but I think that's bc of our dog's age.....an since puppies get cancer that means nothing...
he aspirated him and we will get results wednesday.
it looks lie my second young dog will die from cancer...i am a jinx.
anyway the month after we adopted a great pyrenees called winston and he has been with us for the past year.
Anyway I have had winston for about a year now and have been super focused on trying to limit his exposure to chemicals. I give him interceptor once very two months and he is not on flea/tick meds.
Winston is 3 yrs old....and great pyrs are healthy dogs.
well we went to the vet saturday after seeing a lump and the vet said it looked like a tick bite(i pulled what i thought was a tick off there so it makes sense) but to use antibiotic and it should heal in 72 hours. Well it never healed and we went back today because we found another round lump on his back leg!!!(i know ipulled something off of this lump but nto sure if it was a tick)
Anyway vet told us he;d be surprised if it was cancer but I think that's bc of our dog's age.....an since puppies get cancer that means nothing...
he aspirated him and we will get results wednesday.
it looks lie my second young dog will die from cancer...i am a jinx.
went to the vet today winston;s aspiration was abscessed he is on meds and is wearing the dreaded cone =(
this is very scary it was so small on friday when we aspirated it and now it is gigantic idk what's happening and he's been panting for the whole night/morning.
thanks zoe. I decided to get a second opinion just to be on the safe side. His cyst is a lot bigger now than it was on friday.
Just get used to this, as more will develope. What I would suggest to you is to ask your vet ( the next time your in) to show you where all the lymph glands are so you will know if any of those areas grow, then you will have the right to worry.
I had a dog that did have cancer and I was petting him one day and felt lumps on his lymph glands under his neck. If I did no treatment he would die in a month. I did the chemo for awhile even though it would not save him, it did give me more time with him to allow him to move on.
I had a dog that did have cancer and I was petting him one day and felt lumps on his lymph glands under his neck. If I did no treatment he would die in a month. I did the chemo for awhile even though it would not save him, it did give me more time with him to allow him to move on.
any thoughts on my question?
testdeprived
Nov 10, 2012
thanks i am shocked he is ok and still doubt it lol. Does this sound right to you-the vet aspirated it and said immediately in office that it was clear, then e went in the back put it on a slide and showed just he slide that it was completely clear. does that mean for certain it's a cyst? Im also paranoid he aspirate the wrong one lol but i should shut up and be happy :).
testdeprived
Nov 10, 2012
thanks i am shocked he is ok and still doubt it lol. Does this sound right to you-the vet aspirated it and said immediately in office that it was clear, then e went in the back put it on a slide and showed just he slide that it was completely clear. does that mean for certain it's a cyst? Im also paranoid he aspirate the wrong one lol but i should shut up and be happy :).
I understand all of your concern for your dog. I had to put down a dog to cancer and another one to seizures, one survied IMHA....and I still got get a new puppy!
You just love your dog as much as you can. My IMHA dog has those fatty tumors all over her, when I first noticed them I too was worried, but now I don't even think about it when a new one pops up.
Please, the only thing I will suggest one day when you do want to get a new puppy- get a mixed breed- they are usually healthier because they have not been inbread so much.
You just love your dog as much as you can. My IMHA dog has those fatty tumors all over her, when I first noticed them I too was worried, but now I don't even think about it when a new one pops up.
Please, the only thing I will suggest one day when you do want to get a new puppy- get a mixed breed- they are usually healthier because they have not been inbread so much.
thanks i am shocked he is ok and still doubt it lol. Does this sound right to you-the vet aspirated it and said immediately in office that it was clear, then e went in the back put it on a slide and showed just he slide that it was completely clear. does that mean for certain it's a cyst? Im also paranoid he aspirate the wrong one lol but i should shut up and be happy :).
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Oh, I am very very pleased! Good news!
No, the reason I kept mentioning the surgery was because I was opting for the "safe side". Probably biased, but my dog had a breast lump which was a "wait-and-see" situation. Well it grew a bit, though she was it and well in herself at the time. So I took her in, the vet took it off (I disliked her having to have surgery!) but it was the wisest move, because it had turned cancerous. So it was better to come off.
I kept thinking it would have been safer to have had that lump removed when it was very very small. But all was OK in the end. The surgery removed the breast cancer entirely.
But in your case it all turned out to be different. No need for that surgery after all. That's so good, and I'm happy for you and Winston.
No, the reason I kept mentioning the surgery was because I was opting for the "safe side". Probably biased, but my dog had a breast lump which was a "wait-and-see" situation. Well it grew a bit, though she was it and well in herself at the time. So I took her in, the vet took it off (I disliked her having to have surgery!) but it was the wisest move, because it had turned cancerous. So it was better to come off.
I kept thinking it would have been safer to have had that lump removed when it was very very small. But all was OK in the end. The surgery removed the breast cancer entirely.
But in your case it all turned out to be different. No need for that surgery after all. That's so good, and I'm happy for you and Winston.
he didnt Even send it into the lab since it was clear he was sure it was a cyst what a relief.
GOOD NeWS
took winston in the vet aspirated it..it was clear
he said it's a cyst
used the same vet that said he had to cut it out
nice guy but always contradicts himself
didnt charge for aspiration. i also got rabies and lyme vaccine despite dfc saying they are bad lol
took winston in the vet aspirated it..it was clear
he said it's a cyst
used the same vet that said he had to cut it out
nice guy but always contradicts himself
didnt charge for aspiration. i also got rabies and lyme vaccine despite dfc saying they are bad lol
update we chose to wait and see and i think it was the wrong thing.
bad news..i think his main bump has grown. I also found two new bumps close to eachother and both close to the main bump...as well another bump on his shoulder. It's the same ****** situation with shane....except this tie ive only had winston a yr. I will nvr get another dog...im cursed. sad thing is i waited too long and should have gotten the first removed now im sure it's too late and it prob spread. i have to be cursed..most peoples dogs live a good 10yrs and they feed purina mine live 3 ad i feed te best..an raise him naturally.
bad news..i think his main bump has grown. I also found two new bumps close to eachother and both close to the main bump...as well another bump on his shoulder. It's the same ****** situation with shane....except this tie ive only had winston a yr. I will nvr get another dog...im cursed. sad thing is i waited too long and should have gotten the first removed now im sure it's too late and it prob spread. i have to be cursed..most peoples dogs live a good 10yrs and they feed purina mine live 3 ad i feed te best..an raise him naturally.
ill bet anything winston has cancer i just know it...i mean now he as this other little bump on his neck...it feels under the sin too but i see pink like blood but dried so maybe it's a bite
hi ginger im not sure if you read my other posts but discussed that the vet said to come back in two wks for biopsy bc the lump is small so aspiration would be hard.
We bring winston into the vet's whenever he needs it which is prob every 3 months, I was sut saying an overnight procedure would be worrisome.
It is so hot here and id rather just see what happens in 2 wks. I feel that for winston to have a lump in the first place is a sign of bad luck, and god has already decided his fate. Great pyrs at this age dont get these lumps so im pretty pessimistic that no matter what i o it's harmful news.
are you that certain it is not something harmless like a calcium deposit. I notice you are pushing the surgery, so are you that sure it's not something harmless?
dave
we have mixed feelings about our vet..he is a little socially awkward, but cares for the animals and not money...although i sometimes doubt his expertise.
with my golden we brought him to a cornell educated surgeon and that guy sucked
We bring winston into the vet's whenever he needs it which is prob every 3 months, I was sut saying an overnight procedure would be worrisome.
It is so hot here and id rather just see what happens in 2 wks. I feel that for winston to have a lump in the first place is a sign of bad luck, and god has already decided his fate. Great pyrs at this age dont get these lumps so im pretty pessimistic that no matter what i o it's harmful news.
are you that certain it is not something harmless like a calcium deposit. I notice you are pushing the surgery, so are you that sure it's not something harmless?
dave
we have mixed feelings about our vet..he is a little socially awkward, but cares for the animals and not money...although i sometimes doubt his expertise.
with my golden we brought him to a cornell educated surgeon and that guy sucked
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Well, there is another option, but it is not 100% accurate (according to my vet) You can ask your vet to do a "fine-needle aspiration" on this lump, to give a much better idea of what it might be. Although the test is not as sensitive as what is alled an "incisional" biopsy, it can still be very useful.
This is no position to be in, at that vet's office. I can COMPLETELY understand your reluctance to leave Winston in the possible care of a veterinary nurse you don't like, and you don't like the way she handles those animals in her care. But something has to be sorted out. Because maybe not now....maybe not next week or next month...but sometime, he will almost definitely need some kind of treatment/minor surgery/dental cleaning/IV hydration....goodess knows what. I have never yet met any dog, fit and well or not, who hasn't needed the vet, or even an ovenight stay at the vet's at sometime in its life.
If you like your vet and trust him, then although it sounds rather confrontational, it might be wise, to ask to have a private word with him one day, and let him know about your worries about this other Vet Tech. or nurse, or whoever, who handled your other dog carelessly and insensitively at such a stressful time -both for the dog, and for your family. Make it clear you are not exactly complaining....more that you are concerned about the way they might handle Winston if he needed to come in, and he means so much to you.
This is no position to be in, at that vet's office. I can COMPLETELY understand your reluctance to leave Winston in the possible care of a veterinary nurse you don't like, and you don't like the way she handles those animals in her care. But something has to be sorted out. Because maybe not now....maybe not next week or next month...but sometime, he will almost definitely need some kind of treatment/minor surgery/dental cleaning/IV hydration....goodess knows what. I have never yet met any dog, fit and well or not, who hasn't needed the vet, or even an ovenight stay at the vet's at sometime in its life.
If you like your vet and trust him, then although it sounds rather confrontational, it might be wise, to ask to have a private word with him one day, and let him know about your worries about this other Vet Tech. or nurse, or whoever, who handled your other dog carelessly and insensitively at such a stressful time -both for the dog, and for your family. Make it clear you are not exactly complaining....more that you are concerned about the way they might handle Winston if he needed to come in, and he means so much to you.
im still not prepared to give winston surgery. The worker is a permanent member there...idont want winston staying there in her care.
I can understand your concerns about the worker at your vets, but it could be the person was just a vetinary student or even just someone on work experience - either way, it is very unlikely they would be involved in the surgery. Your vet on the other hand sounds like one of the good ones, so if you have worries or concerns, speak to him. Ginger has really given you some excellent advice and I would concur with everything said. It is not something I would wait over (miracles are so rare it isn't worth the risk of waiting to see) - if it is cancerous, surgery today is better than surgery tomorrow - and if it's not, then the biopsy your vet will do will confirm it and this will give you great relief. Tony
ii like somv things about our vet but othvrs idk.
he really cares aboutt he animals and not the money somvtimes he doesnt even charge us AT ALL.
I dont like one of his workers however. When we had to put my golden to sleep i asked one of the workers to help my dad and me lift him in side and she was rvlluctant at first but finally grabbed one leg and lvt go of him mid air....
so since you are suggesting I get it remove now are you pretty much certain it won't go away within 2 ws?
If it's not a cacerous tumor what else could it be?
I now fatty tumor is one choice but what else?
I really couuld not imagine he would have cancer it would make no sense....but i am a very unlucky person.
I would think cancer is more likely than a fatty tumor at 3!!!!!
he really cares aboutt he animals and not the money somvtimes he doesnt even charge us AT ALL.
I dont like one of his workers however. When we had to put my golden to sleep i asked one of the workers to help my dad and me lift him in side and she was rvlluctant at first but finally grabbed one leg and lvt go of him mid air....
so since you are suggesting I get it remove now are you pretty much certain it won't go away within 2 ws?
If it's not a cacerous tumor what else could it be?
I now fatty tumor is one choice but what else?
I really couuld not imagine he would have cancer it would make no sense....but i am a very unlucky person.
I would think cancer is more likely than a fatty tumor at 3!!!!!
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Well, not all hard lumps are cancer either. That's the thing with dog-lumps. No-one can tell for certain what they are unless they get biopsied and tested in the Lab.
If your dog is fit and well and has no health issues, he will sail through a tiny little lump removal surgery like this!
And then you would have grasped the nettle! If it's not cancer -big relief and no more worry. If it is -then the lump has gone, and like I said, if it was cancer, and the lump came off while it was still small, it may well not have had time to get worse or spread.
The thing is, you're scared. Plus the fact that you may have heard bad stories about some vets that make you unable to trust.
See if you can do some research to find the BEST small animal vet in your area, or even if you have to travel a few miles. Do some asking around too, maybe when you are on dog-walks, to see which vet(s) oher people recommend
If your dog is fit and well and has no health issues, he will sail through a tiny little lump removal surgery like this!
And then you would have grasped the nettle! If it's not cancer -big relief and no more worry. If it is -then the lump has gone, and like I said, if it was cancer, and the lump came off while it was still small, it may well not have had time to get worse or spread.
The thing is, you're scared. Plus the fact that you may have heard bad stories about some vets that make you unable to trust.
See if you can do some research to find the BEST small animal vet in your area, or even if you have to travel a few miles. Do some asking around too, maybe when you are on dog-walks, to see which vet(s) oher people recommend
i feed him so well..keep him away from toxic fea treatments..and he is young and not a likely breed to get this stuff..yet he does and dogs whoa re likely brees on purina are healthy!
is the fact That the lumpis hard concerning ou nevvr answered that part..so im not sure if you missed it or didn't wanna give bad news.
is the fact That the lumpis hard concerning ou nevvr answered that part..so im not sure if you missed it or didn't wanna give bad news.
he's only 3 and pyrs are supposed to be healthy! I dont see how i got so unlucky for hm to have this lump. whe i say i dont feel good about this bump I mean several things.
1- Im very concerned it wont shrink within 2 wks and he will hve to go under and i dont trust anyone to give him surgery
2- im concerned it's cancer...an if he gets cancer now im sure he' get it again soon...
why can't it be a calcium deposit =(
1- Im very concerned it wont shrink within 2 wks and he will hve to go under and i dont trust anyone to give him surgery
2- im concerned it's cancer...an if he gets cancer now im sure he' get it again soon...
why can't it be a calcium deposit =(
i dont want surgery...id much rather wait to see if a miracle occurs and it heals. to be honest if the bipsy comes back an it is cancer ill feel terrible. I just hope it's a calcium deposit. I
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Well the best thing in my opinion is to go at this head-on. Take him to the vet, express your worries, let the vet examine the lump, and tell him you would rather have this removed now. And biopsied. As I think I said before, it very often is the case that if a lump is removed quckly -even if it IS cancer- it can likely lead to a complete cure.
The chance is that it is benign. But at least if it is taken off you will not have to be worried any more. It's worse to keep looking at that lump and worry about it.
The chance is that it is benign. But at least if it is taken off you will not have to be worried any more. It's worse to keep looking at that lump and worry about it.
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