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6 and 7 weeks negative but still have symptoms
Dear people,
I admire your humanity and trying to calm Down people with emotional anguish.
I read this forum last two months everyday and six hours per day. Before posting my questions.
I can't live any more like this. And need help.
I end up having sex with csw, she was so thin and more likely lypoatrophy. I did not know that it can be from HIV med.
I was scared of aids all the time and kept my condom properly. Hold it in one had, after three minutes or something I came and took out my condom while my thing was erected. Halfway rolled it back and then used tissue papers to pull the condom off. Worried not to touch the head of the thing.
Day later I checked the condoom for leakage with pouring water In it and it was not leaking. So the condom is used prperly.
But before this, in the beginning before I put my condom on, the lady came close and hugged me, I was conscious not to touch her vg, afraid I may get the fluid.
To my knowledge I did not feel anything touching. It was like ten seconds.
Then I put a new condom on my finger and fingered her. The. I carefully removed the condom the. Used same fingers to put a new condom on my p...n.
So it all seemed safe to me.
I forge ten about it, the on fifth week I got cold, high fever which came In the evening, one day I got unbearable fever hotness, but not tired at all
Went on intternet and the body site, the slowly realized the real risk.
The same day I felt pain under arms, after four days it went away, I decided to test, since it was 43 days after exposer, December 27' 2010. The blood test I took was antibody test on febraury 10 2010' STD plus HIV, so it was 6 weeks after the exposer.
It was not rapid test, but a HIV center, the Netherlands. After four days the sent me a SMS that all negative.
But in those weekend All he'll broke loos, the more I read the body site , the more I panicked, anxiety, told my girl friend, crying, asking for isolation, want to kill myself.
So on valentines day I met up with my doc, she ordered a HIV test from. State of the art hospital, it was duo test.
Antigen, antibody,p24.
She convinced me in the line of dr.hh here.
My worry was I may have contracted through the vaginal fluid when she hugged me when we were naked.
And after I took out my condom I washed my hand with soap, alcohol fro after shave, then went sleep after two hours woke up took out my contact lenses. Thinking any HIV should be dead now. Anyway
The test came back it was Negative. The dr was relieved and order a psychological help. Since I have mild OCD and hypoconddria.
But the fever went and stayed mild fever for another week.
I could not smell anything anymore, nowadays bit, but not like before.
And forget to tell I had a running nose all the time when I had the fever, and sweats like never before, litereally soaked.
Reading about teak stubbornes for 12 weeks, I was thinking to test at 12 weeks. Meanwhile I was thinking suicide, could not work, eat, cried a lot, age 39 and depressed already, it made worse.
Some how the drs Cummings, hhh etc gave hope or calmed me down since 6 and 7 weeks test results may be a goodindication I mean 43 days, and 48 days, or even conclusive ?...
Went to sleep, eaten properly took supplements, thinking I. May live another 5 years. Waiting for 12 weeks mark.
But then all he'll broke loos when started feel burning sensation in my legs, sometimes itching, and so stones all over my body, muscle twitching, pulsing, and needle pinch,,,,, I thought it may be due to anxiety, after I had anxiety so hard for two days continuously, I want to take my life off.
Tried to calm myself to get through the weeks, my girl friend was happy with the 7 weeks duo test, stopped worrying. But I did had sex with her after two to three weeks my exposure. I insisted that time for d
Safety to use condom and I did used it. But before that it was possible my pn fluid may entered her area.
Now after nine week I started to notice a one cm reddish spot on my face, bulged, then another one in my right forearm, around same size. I checked on net, it says it may be rash?, thatut me. Day down in my bed, then saw another two in my upper thigh left leg, cried a lot, since I never had them before, some how believing the condom usage was ok, but before that I may had the bodily fluid of her enter my urithria, we were on our knees naked, against each other, she tried to hold me like we were like L shaped. I did ask her about HIV she said she does have and cheeks every six weeks. But I felt strange by her look, not a tiny bit of fat on her body.
Now, ruses red spots won't go away, since week 8 onwards I have pain inder armpits, groin, back of my neck, side of my neck, they are not swollen but pains under arms stays mostly.
My weight is ok, lingering around 68 to 71 kg.
I slowly feeling I have HIV, but not courage enough to test again, considering my weak horrible emotional state.
But then I want to test out so I can start with Yamamoto bonito gcMaf. Treatment, which may help to cure??.
OR minimize, or I can take liposomal vitamin c or ldn to keep my cd healthy, and if it falls to 200 start with arv.
Unfortunately hypocondria and depression person I am I do not know how I my react to hear the poz news.
Feeling alone, horrible,
I know the answer of the brave but brutal teak would say Move on u don't have risk.....but can some one help me with these symptoms mainly the red spots makes me feel my days or over, and now live with the HIV as long as u can......and the arm pit pain, chest pain which I suspect as walking pneumonia....
I know a friend who died of arc side effects....and the main stream coca won't admit it for not freighting people. But it is fact, for some people it works and some don't, I also know a person who died emery Taylor because he was in denial, did not take arv and his cd count was 50 and died of ks at the age of 29 by KS.
So it seems like choose between two unknowns. I don't know I can handle this.....
If turned poz, I am going to be a he'll of a advocate for HIV treatment promotions, educating people.
Please friends help me to get through this.....I rarely have this energy to write like this. Mostly I am depressed, down and collapse on my couch, does want to live any more.....so if u don't see a reply fro. Me that's because i Am such erratic.....i am also willing to share my emailwith u guys or tel.....
Hope these symptoms are due to anxiety even the red spots.....
Thanks for your service and trying to pull people out of misery and desperation.
Wim
Holland
Thanks
I admire your humanity and trying to calm Down people with emotional anguish.
I read this forum last two months everyday and six hours per day. Before posting my questions.
I can't live any more like this. And need help.
I end up having sex with csw, she was so thin and more likely lypoatrophy. I did not know that it can be from HIV med.
I was scared of aids all the time and kept my condom properly. Hold it in one had, after three minutes or something I came and took out my condom while my thing was erected. Halfway rolled it back and then used tissue papers to pull the condom off. Worried not to touch the head of the thing.
Day later I checked the condoom for leakage with pouring water In it and it was not leaking. So the condom is used prperly.
But before this, in the beginning before I put my condom on, the lady came close and hugged me, I was conscious not to touch her vg, afraid I may get the fluid.
To my knowledge I did not feel anything touching. It was like ten seconds.
Then I put a new condom on my finger and fingered her. The. I carefully removed the condom the. Used same fingers to put a new condom on my p...n.
So it all seemed safe to me.
I forge ten about it, the on fifth week I got cold, high fever which came In the evening, one day I got unbearable fever hotness, but not tired at all
Went on intternet and the body site, the slowly realized the real risk.
The same day I felt pain under arms, after four days it went away, I decided to test, since it was 43 days after exposer, December 27' 2010. The blood test I took was antibody test on febraury 10 2010' STD plus HIV, so it was 6 weeks after the exposer.
It was not rapid test, but a HIV center, the Netherlands. After four days the sent me a SMS that all negative.
But in those weekend All he'll broke loos, the more I read the body site , the more I panicked, anxiety, told my girl friend, crying, asking for isolation, want to kill myself.
So on valentines day I met up with my doc, she ordered a HIV test from. State of the art hospital, it was duo test.
Antigen, antibody,p24.
She convinced me in the line of dr.hh here.
My worry was I may have contracted through the vaginal fluid when she hugged me when we were naked.
And after I took out my condom I washed my hand with soap, alcohol fro after shave, then went sleep after two hours woke up took out my contact lenses. Thinking any HIV should be dead now. Anyway
The test came back it was Negative. The dr was relieved and order a psychological help. Since I have mild OCD and hypoconddria.
But the fever went and stayed mild fever for another week.
I could not smell anything anymore, nowadays bit, but not like before.
And forget to tell I had a running nose all the time when I had the fever, and sweats like never before, litereally soaked.
Reading about teak stubbornes for 12 weeks, I was thinking to test at 12 weeks. Meanwhile I was thinking suicide, could not work, eat, cried a lot, age 39 and depressed already, it made worse.
Some how the drs Cummings, hhh etc gave hope or calmed me down since 6 and 7 weeks test results may be a goodindication I mean 43 days, and 48 days, or even conclusive ?...
Went to sleep, eaten properly took supplements, thinking I. May live another 5 years. Waiting for 12 weeks mark.
But then all he'll broke loos when started feel burning sensation in my legs, sometimes itching, and so stones all over my body, muscle twitching, pulsing, and needle pinch,,,,, I thought it may be due to anxiety, after I had anxiety so hard for two days continuously, I want to take my life off.
Tried to calm myself to get through the weeks, my girl friend was happy with the 7 weeks duo test, stopped worrying. But I did had sex with her after two to three weeks my exposure. I insisted that time for d
Safety to use condom and I did used it. But before that it was possible my pn fluid may entered her area.
Now after nine week I started to notice a one cm reddish spot on my face, bulged, then another one in my right forearm, around same size. I checked on net, it says it may be rash?, thatut me. Day down in my bed, then saw another two in my upper thigh left leg, cried a lot, since I never had them before, some how believing the condom usage was ok, but before that I may had the bodily fluid of her enter my urithria, we were on our knees naked, against each other, she tried to hold me like we were like L shaped. I did ask her about HIV she said she does have and cheeks every six weeks. But I felt strange by her look, not a tiny bit of fat on her body.
Now, ruses red spots won't go away, since week 8 onwards I have pain inder armpits, groin, back of my neck, side of my neck, they are not swollen but pains under arms stays mostly.
My weight is ok, lingering around 68 to 71 kg.
I slowly feeling I have HIV, but not courage enough to test again, considering my weak horrible emotional state.
But then I want to test out so I can start with Yamamoto bonito gcMaf. Treatment, which may help to cure??.
OR minimize, or I can take liposomal vitamin c or ldn to keep my cd healthy, and if it falls to 200 start with arv.
Unfortunately hypocondria and depression person I am I do not know how I my react to hear the poz news.
Feeling alone, horrible,
I know the answer of the brave but brutal teak would say Move on u don't have risk.....but can some one help me with these symptoms mainly the red spots makes me feel my days or over, and now live with the HIV as long as u can......and the arm pit pain, chest pain which I suspect as walking pneumonia....
I know a friend who died of arc side effects....and the main stream coca won't admit it for not freighting people. But it is fact, for some people it works and some don't, I also know a person who died emery Taylor because he was in denial, did not take arv and his cd count was 50 and died of ks at the age of 29 by KS.
So it seems like choose between two unknowns. I don't know I can handle this.....
If turned poz, I am going to be a he'll of a advocate for HIV treatment promotions, educating people.
Please friends help me to get through this.....I rarely have this energy to write like this. Mostly I am depressed, down and collapse on my couch, does want to live any more.....so if u don't see a reply fro. Me that's because i Am such erratic.....i am also willing to share my emailwith u guys or tel.....
Hope these symptoms are due to anxiety even the red spots.....
Thanks for your service and trying to pull people out of misery and desperation.
Wim
Holland
Thanks
Just wanted to post on here to let people know my situation and hopefully calm some nerves. Basically, the point of my story before I get into it, is that you shouldn't rely on symptoms.
So.. I made a big mistake, and had sex with a sex worker (albeit protected) when I was really really drunk. Afterwards, I could remember putting on a condom, but couldn't remember ever checking the condom after that to see if it came off, broke, etc.
I was immediately freaking out the next day. Worried as hell doesn't do it justice. Anyway, around two to 4 weeks, I felt like I had some flu symptoms like diarreah and fatigue, but what really got me worried was that I noticed the lymph nodes on one side of my neck were bigger than normal. The nodes did not shrink for the next three weeks, and in fact are still somewhat noticeable as I write this.
I was a wreck for 6 weeks, and at six weeks went and did an Oraquick test, which came back negative. That gave me some reassurance, but I had heard, like you no doubt have, that it can take 3 months to develop antibodies. (just a side note: from what ive read it seems that for the average person, 6 weeks is actually fairly reliable).
The next week, at around 7 weeks I noticed that I had what appeared to be Oral Hairy Leukoplakia developing on the sides of my tongue. I also had skin on the inside of my mouth peeling off, and little red dots under my tonge, some of which became inflamed and painful. This really really freaked me out. Im not sure if it actually was OHL or if I just convinced myself it was after doing to much scary research online, but either way, at this point I was convinced that's what it was, and most of the information online indicates that that is a symptom which develops almost exclusively in HIV positive individuals. Likely it was just because I was so paranoid that I was feeling around with my tongue too much and leading to chaffing inside my mouth.
So, at about 8 weeks I paid $160 to go have a blood sample taken to do both the DNA and antibody tests. Based on my research, the DNA test is very accurate up to as early as 21 days and maybe even earlier.
I got my test results back to today and everything is negative. Great news! Huge Relief.
But it made me think about all the symptoms I was experiencing, the scariest of which to me were the raised lymph nodes and the apparent OHL (which I looked up pictures of online, and it looked exactly like the less serious cases of it).
So, if you are at low risk... like I was, and you are having symptoms that are scaring the hell out of you, don't beat yourself up too bad. Just go get tested as soon as possible. The Oraquick tests are free and anonymous a bunch of places. Unfortunately the DNA tests are really expensive, but in my honest opinion, totally worth it considering the level of stress I have now experienced, and I know others are dealing with during the "waiting period".
Hope this helps somebody else with a case of the "fraids"
So.. I made a big mistake, and had sex with a sex worker (albeit protected) when I was really really drunk. Afterwards, I could remember putting on a condom, but couldn't remember ever checking the condom after that to see if it came off, broke, etc.
I was immediately freaking out the next day. Worried as hell doesn't do it justice. Anyway, around two to 4 weeks, I felt like I had some flu symptoms like diarreah and fatigue, but what really got me worried was that I noticed the lymph nodes on one side of my neck were bigger than normal. The nodes did not shrink for the next three weeks, and in fact are still somewhat noticeable as I write this.
I was a wreck for 6 weeks, and at six weeks went and did an Oraquick test, which came back negative. That gave me some reassurance, but I had heard, like you no doubt have, that it can take 3 months to develop antibodies. (just a side note: from what ive read it seems that for the average person, 6 weeks is actually fairly reliable).
The next week, at around 7 weeks I noticed that I had what appeared to be Oral Hairy Leukoplakia developing on the sides of my tongue. I also had skin on the inside of my mouth peeling off, and little red dots under my tonge, some of which became inflamed and painful. This really really freaked me out. Im not sure if it actually was OHL or if I just convinced myself it was after doing to much scary research online, but either way, at this point I was convinced that's what it was, and most of the information online indicates that that is a symptom which develops almost exclusively in HIV positive individuals. Likely it was just because I was so paranoid that I was feeling around with my tongue too much and leading to chaffing inside my mouth.
So, at about 8 weeks I paid $160 to go have a blood sample taken to do both the DNA and antibody tests. Based on my research, the DNA test is very accurate up to as early as 21 days and maybe even earlier.
I got my test results back to today and everything is negative. Great news! Huge Relief.
But it made me think about all the symptoms I was experiencing, the scariest of which to me were the raised lymph nodes and the apparent OHL (which I looked up pictures of online, and it looked exactly like the less serious cases of it).
So, if you are at low risk... like I was, and you are having symptoms that are scaring the hell out of you, don't beat yourself up too bad. Just go get tested as soon as possible. The Oraquick tests are free and anonymous a bunch of places. Unfortunately the DNA tests are really expensive, but in my honest opinion, totally worth it considering the level of stress I have now experienced, and I know others are dealing with during the "waiting period".
Hope this helps somebody else with a case of the "fraids"
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Had your condom broken, you would've noticed because there's nothing such as leaking a bit in condom, that means it would either stay intact or break visibly. And protected sex means zero HIV risk, zero.
That means all your symptoms you're worrying of could be attributed to your fear and/or another disease. Stop thinking that you have HIV and consult a doctor for all the symptoms.
That means all your symptoms you're worrying of could be attributed to your fear and/or another disease. Stop thinking that you have HIV and consult a doctor for all the symptoms.
Probably u guys r wrong.....vag fluid is ver dangerous outside of vg.....I am going to test out at 15 weeks mark.....if I am not coming and posting within a week my result...that means I am screwed and poz......but before I go to test I will post.
Man
If so why I have all these symptoms. NoW have throat pain...side of neck...and my groin...are aching......screwed....the gl is poz
If so why I have all these symptoms. NoW have throat pain...side of neck...and my groin...are aching......screwed....the gl is poz
What exactly are you looking for? You did not have a risk and have been told that.
My gf started to have symptoms... I am in window period, but had sex with my gf with condom. But we did kiss.....so s he got infected from my mouth...since I bleed often ..bad gums.....now 8 weeks later she got mild fever, tired, headach and tired...she says she never had such a headache and now got throat pain....says she never had such a pain.....it all scares me... But. I have cried enough.....now prepared to accept that I Iinfected her...I am mentally preparing g to test three months mark.....I feel already the result.....in few weeks all hell gonna break loose.....
To me symptoms continues...pain under arm...red spots stays the same.....burnning twitching muscles......though I am calm....and can sleep with HIV dreams....horrible time....
From the test result it all gonna be down hill.....I don't believe in three month as definitive....but want to believe that.....
To me symptoms continues...pain under arm...red spots stays the same.....burnning twitching muscles......though I am calm....and can sleep with HIV dreams....horrible time....
From the test result it all gonna be down hill.....I don't believe in three month as definitive....but want to believe that.....
Teak my man
There u r....
So u r implying that exposer to vg fluid of poz lady does not pose risk?....even if u use the fingers to put condom. Then why I have these red spots? Pain all over my body lympnodes?
Question
Would u sdvise me test at three months?
Thanks for saving these idiots souls. Including me.....
There u r....
So u r implying that exposer to vg fluid of poz lady does not pose risk?....even if u use the fingers to put condom. Then why I have these red spots? Pain all over my body lympnodes?
Question
Would u sdvise me test at three months?
Thanks for saving these idiots souls. Including me.....
Thanks guys.... Today I wentvthrough this deep confusion......fear......it is now three months since my exposer but I don't dare to test again....not emotionally prepared.....I guess I will never prepared.... lympnodes on shoulders ache,here and there in my body prickle....red spot on my face stays there...and the one in my arm as well....I read on living with HIV forum some one said his gp found out the guy was poz by looking at his red spots on his legs...just two....so....I startvto realize I must have HIV......red spots and the pain in my lympnodes....at week 12 ....so if I tested poz...now I will be the case who tested antibody negative at 6 weeks and Duo test neg at 7 weeks turned poz at week 12 weeks......like before who tested neg at 6weeks but tested poz at 7 months......
i feel for you.i went through a similar experience.it appears your very anxious and stressed about the whole incident.the only way to get rid of fear is to tackle it head on.if you feel the need to get tested then go ahead.3months conclusive.although you risk like mine was vertually zero.
In reading your fears my heart goes out to you. Fear of HIV is a terrible thing and can really sink its roots into your mind and grow into a monster. Take comfort in the facts that the professionals on this forum post. Focus your thoughts on those facts and I'm sure your restless mind will find peace:)
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