hiv through oral

[mmmhmmmm]

hi, i know people ask these questions these questions all the time but i just whant you to answer my case. I had un protected oral sex with a guy less than 3 days ago, i remember brushing my teeth but my gums didnt bleed, i didnt have any open cuts in my mouth either. He told me had been with 3 previous guys but had used a condom each time. I dont know whether to trust him though. Do you think it is necesary for me to have a hiv test. i have beeeeen SOOOOO nervous since the incident , but feel equally nervous to have a test.

what should i do?

[Teak]

You don't need to test.

[mmmhmmmm]

are you sure ?? everyone says there is still a risk, and i am literally going crazy.

[Teak]

Then test. You asked a question and it was answered. If it will make you feel better go test collect your negative result so you can move on.

[mmmhmmmm]

do you know the stats or percentages of risk behind giving oral with good oral health?

[longone]

Ahhh Teak, you really are sticking your neck out with this "Zero risk" stuff about oral sex. It is not Zero and you really should modifiy your responses. You are baseing it on two studies years ago. No Dr. in the world would say a person who takes infected fluid in the mouth would be at a ZERO risk of possible infection. I hope others will not engage in risky behavior base on your false postings.

[tonypham]

what im gonna say is: oral sex will be a risk if and only if you have a FRESH sore/broken skin and it is bleeding at that time as well...the case could be: u have a sore/broken skin ( not fresh ) and are having a very hardcore oral sex that make it open and bleeding :)

[SSK2007]

The short answer is no risk at all

[regularjoey]

Pick a side )))  The chart does suggest that giving oral is not risk-free  -  because it isn't.

[SSK2007]

Performing oral sex on a man
** Very low risk.

[regularjoey]

Yep.  Now look at your "no risk at all" answer.  I see a difference!

[SSK2007]

risk is theoretical

[regularjoey]

"receiving" oral is theoretical risk.  "giving" is documented, real risk.  You can go to the CDC webpage for more info

[regularjoey]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsexqa.htm

[longone]

My result was NEG. but what does that prove? Maybe I was lucky. I am not disagreeing with oral sex is LOW risk I am saying in med. I don't think terms such as zero risk is correct. Look there are alot of people who would love to read posts like yours and their minds will use that info and go out and do things that they would never do. So I believe speading the zero risk about oral will lead some to put themselves at risk. It is not zero, it is low risk for sure but not ZERO.

[regularjoey]

Oh please.  There are many such people on aidsmeds.  The threads on oral sex are both funny and sad at the same time.

- You don't get HIV through oral sex
- But I did
- No, you didn't.  Have you read the Spanish study?
and so on

By the way, none of the better aidsmeds people say that oral is no risk.  I have definitely seen Ann acknowledge that it is a risk.  Everybody knows that it is a risk.

[stelutu]

so you are at hiv risk even if no ejaculation occurred .....so sad :(

[Teak]

Do you know for a fact that, that is the only exposure he had?

[stelutu]

Ok…..please let me say sth too….I perfectly understand inadepression. I have swallone nodes everywhere and I am dieing of fear first of all. I could not find the 4categ Teak sais seroconvert after 3months and I asked doctors,who also say 6months. But, as inadepression, I also realize I can’t help the fear….weather I have HIV or not, I also need mental help for not knowing the reason all symptoms happened and negative result. I’ve been to the doc yesterday and he told me those could be for other causes, but he couldn’t say anything till 6months. I do not have enough money for the PCR…so I have to stay alive for 1,5months not knowing anything……I will die of fear before I would of HIV

[regularjoey]

I'm not talking about the "Am I Infected" forum there which is not very good.  I'm talking about the "Living with" forum for the HIV+ people.  

[Teak]

Then you should read these responses from both Drs. here on MedHelp.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/366288

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/378949

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/370228

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/369942

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/357961

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/357226

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/354900

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/344214

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/343053

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/319561

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/334367

[regularjoey]

Don't BS me and the others here.  Dr. Handsfield NEVER said that giving oral sex is risk-free

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/STD/messages/2375.html

Keep spreading false information and you will get yourself reported again

[Teak]

Read and weep regularjoey

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/343053

Nov 07 by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.

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H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.  
Seattle - WA  


Relax.  Oral sex is safe without a condom, and certainly there is no chance of transmission with one.  Skin to skin or mouth to skin contact of any kind is zer rosk, including breasts and regardless of scabs or gum problems.  You could not have caught HIV from that event and do not need testing.

[Teak]

Go read the rest of them. Dr. Hook tells a person that they didn't need to test for "Giving" oral sex.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/334367

Oct 28 by Edward W Hook, MD
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Edward W Hook, MD  
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aggie2011
18 years old
College Station - TX  

I would not worry.  Your partner has told you he is not infected and, perhaps even more importantly, your only exposure was oral.  The risk of acquiring HIV from an infected partner from oral sex is vanishingly low.  Nothing you have mentioned suggests that you need to have an HIV test.  If you choose to do so, after 8 weeks the sensitivity of HIV blood tests is 98-99%.

Good luck EWH

[regularjoey]

Don't tell me you don't know the difference between "vanishingly low" and "zero".
There is a big difference.
Saying "zero" is wrong and it can lead people to engage in unsafe sexual behavior.

[regularjoey]

This is a proper, professional response

"HIV infection can be acquired by performing fellatio.  It's not common, a lot less risky than vaginal or anal sex, but not zero.  (The opposite direction is very safe; HIV is almost never acquired by receiving fellatio.)  However, no research has been done to answer your questions in the detail you are seeking.  It makes sense that the risk is higher if there are open sores in the mouth or gum inflammation, and ejaculation in the mouth or swallowing semen might be riskier than spitting it out right away, but no data are available.



The main thing you can do to protect yourself is to know something about your partners.  If you avoid performing fellatio on gay/bi men or guys who inject drugs, you can consider yourself at very low risk.  In that case, I do not suggest HIV testing after any particular exposure; just get tested about once a year.  (You also should be tested for other STDs, especially oral gonorrhea.)  Of course you also could use condoms, but most people aren't keen on condoms for oral sex.



I hope that helps.  Good luck-- HHH, MD"

[Teak]

"Nothing you have mentioned suggests that you need to have an HIV test." If the Dr. thought that it was a risk he wouldn't have made that statement.

[Gonka]

I do not, because Al says that, and I trust him. People will not lie about HIV, particularly in a public forum. Will they? Any way I do not know.

[stelutu]

Regularjoey, please tell me, you seam to have read a lot about this oral subject. I am interested for the giving part – I have had all the symptoms and the lymph nodes remained still big- after such an oral ,no ejaculation ,but my gums were not intact. Do you know by any chance what’s the risk? I beg you, answer me !

[stelutu]

well.....i did not have carries, but a tooth extracted 2 weeks before and some blood when brushing teeth.....have you any idea? thank you so much for answering !!!

[stelutu]

thank you so much, I will just try to relax and stop thinking...if I can.....:( I WISH YOU ALL HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!

[regularjoey]

Your risk was extremely low, as we've discussed here at length.  The chance for your partner being HIV+ is 1 in a 1 000.  The chance for transmission is 1 in 10 000.  Put the two together you get 1 in 10 million - those are the odds of you acquiring HIV.

Regardless, your negative test proves that you don't have HIV, so you should relax.  HIV is not the only thing that causes lymphadenopathy, ask a doctor to take a look.

[stelutu]

Well…..thank you very much! I did know I had a risk so far as I have read very much on the subject. I do know I have a negative result so far and I pray it stays the same….also …I have seen many people very worried for much less symptoms than nodes(that do not appear in many diseases) and oral and vaginal candida….I am just praying so far thank you so much for answering !