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Dangers of Alpha Lipoic Acid IV Therapy !
Here is just one of the many dangers of ALA IV therapy:
This is from Pubmed which is considered to be very trustworthy by the medical community.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19616616
"We conclude that large doses of lipoic acid displace sulfhydryls from binding sites, resulting in depletion of serum cysteine, but also pose a methylation burden with severe depletion of liver S-adenosylmethionine and massive release of S-adenosylhomocysteine. These changes may have previously unrecognized deleterious (harmful) effects that should be investigated in both human disease and experimental models"
This is from Pubmed which is considered to be very trustworthy by the medical community.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19616616
"We conclude that large doses of lipoic acid displace sulfhydryls from binding sites, resulting in depletion of serum cysteine, but also pose a methylation burden with severe depletion of liver S-adenosylmethionine and massive release of S-adenosylhomocysteine. These changes may have previously unrecognized deleterious (harmful) effects that should be investigated in both human disease and experimental models"
Hi -
Yes, it's buyer beware, but we advise that of all our communities, in a way. None of our member communities have an expert posting in it, and we suggest that all members contact their doctors before undertaking any treatment regimen for anything. Each person has a different medical history, and that needs to be taken into context.
That said, let's remember that we are a medical info and support site, and making sarcastic comments that insult someone else's beliefs, experiences, or curiosity about a treatment plan (or anything, for that matter) is not supportive. It's fair to show the good, bad and ugly about a treatment, but it isn't ever appropriate to get sarcastic and insulting.
Emily
Yes, it's buyer beware, but we advise that of all our communities, in a way. None of our member communities have an expert posting in it, and we suggest that all members contact their doctors before undertaking any treatment regimen for anything. Each person has a different medical history, and that needs to be taken into context.
That said, let's remember that we are a medical info and support site, and making sarcastic comments that insult someone else's beliefs, experiences, or curiosity about a treatment plan (or anything, for that matter) is not supportive. It's fair to show the good, bad and ugly about a treatment, but it isn't ever appropriate to get sarcastic and insulting.
Emily
Before I say anything else...I just want to remind you that for those of us that are new to this site, this is not old news to us. You may have been down this road 100's of times,and formed your opinions. Now it is time for us to do the same. I am not believing what I read on the internet, just the people that have been Dr B's patients, AND what I have learned about ALA before I ever knew Dr B existed and treated in this manner. For that reason, I find this all very interesting.
I would like to clarify my comment about "it appears that these methods used by Dr. B can help keep HCV at bay" is strictly based on personal testimonies. Of course we need to take them with a grain of salt. I would like to know who was treated for HCV and did not respond in any way.
However, I happen to believe the recent post of drdigger above. I see no reason why he would flat out lie about his results with this Dr. B. It defies logic. He travels every 90 days and stays for 2 weeks for the IV therapy. Look at his results.
My intention here is not to start an argument or to raise some feathers. I don't like arguments. I only believe that we should be open minded. It's no secret that western doctors are not real into alternative or CAM medicine. However, it seems more and more that some of these methods , in many areas of medicine, are proving to be effective. There is a time and a place for both types of medicine.
To nygirl....I totally understand your skeptisism and your statement is not taken lightly.
You said.....
If this were true every single one of us stage 3 and over would have taken this stuff - heck even stage 1 then we'd never ever have to do treatment........that would be awesome wouldn't it?
Yes, it would be awesome if we never had to treat and it would be awesome if everyone st 3 and over could get better. But, isn't that what is exactly happening, for some people? Re-read drdigger's post. Again, why would he lie about this? Ask him to tell you more about it, which is what i have done. We all need to educate ourselves and that is what i am trying to do.
What about all the pubmed articles that mhudnall posted above on March 31 2010 at 12:26am that validated the positive effects of ALA on Hep C? Are we supposed to simply disregard all of those as bogus? Just questions that I contemplate as I try educate myself.
Don't get me wrong...my mind is not made up and my research is just starting. If, down the road, I find bad information about any of this, i will share that too.
Considering the success his patients have had however, i want to throw a question out there....What would you have to loose, if you were to try it? (take the money out of it for now, because I really don't know what the charges are. I was told that he takes insurance and medicare) How would you ever know how it would help you if you never tried it? Which leads to my whole point about options and being somewhat open minded, especially when SOC fails.
I don't see this as an either/or situation. I am even wondering if the two protocols could be combined together for an even better SVR rate? Hopefully more studies will be done on all of this, for all of our benefits!
Peace,
Debbie
I would like to clarify my comment about "it appears that these methods used by Dr. B can help keep HCV at bay" is strictly based on personal testimonies. Of course we need to take them with a grain of salt. I would like to know who was treated for HCV and did not respond in any way.
However, I happen to believe the recent post of drdigger above. I see no reason why he would flat out lie about his results with this Dr. B. It defies logic. He travels every 90 days and stays for 2 weeks for the IV therapy. Look at his results.
My intention here is not to start an argument or to raise some feathers. I don't like arguments. I only believe that we should be open minded. It's no secret that western doctors are not real into alternative or CAM medicine. However, it seems more and more that some of these methods , in many areas of medicine, are proving to be effective. There is a time and a place for both types of medicine.
To nygirl....I totally understand your skeptisism and your statement is not taken lightly.
You said.....
If this were true every single one of us stage 3 and over would have taken this stuff - heck even stage 1 then we'd never ever have to do treatment........that would be awesome wouldn't it?
Yes, it would be awesome if we never had to treat and it would be awesome if everyone st 3 and over could get better. But, isn't that what is exactly happening, for some people? Re-read drdigger's post. Again, why would he lie about this? Ask him to tell you more about it, which is what i have done. We all need to educate ourselves and that is what i am trying to do.
What about all the pubmed articles that mhudnall posted above on March 31 2010 at 12:26am that validated the positive effects of ALA on Hep C? Are we supposed to simply disregard all of those as bogus? Just questions that I contemplate as I try educate myself.
Don't get me wrong...my mind is not made up and my research is just starting. If, down the road, I find bad information about any of this, i will share that too.
Considering the success his patients have had however, i want to throw a question out there....What would you have to loose, if you were to try it? (take the money out of it for now, because I really don't know what the charges are. I was told that he takes insurance and medicare) How would you ever know how it would help you if you never tried it? Which leads to my whole point about options and being somewhat open minded, especially when SOC fails.
I don't see this as an either/or situation. I am even wondering if the two protocols could be combined together for an even better SVR rate? Hopefully more studies will be done on all of this, for all of our benefits!
Peace,
Debbie
just to compare how ridiculous this study can be, 16liters of water in a day can kill.....too bad drinking too much water really killed a man in 2007.
dont drink water please it is dangerous....
http://www.corriere.it/salute/11_luglio_19/aquaholica-inghilterra-sedici-litri-quotidiani_2882e8ea-b206-11e0-962d-4929506ed0a9.shtml
inside the article....
It is not the first case of "water intoxication" or hyponatremia: an athlete who in 2007 took part in the London Marathon has had cerebral complications caused by excessive intake of water and died.
Em didn't MH vette this out and say "Buyer Beware".....so that's not really being insulting it's just trying to tell new people that have not read this 100x already that they should not automatically believe things just because they read them on the internet.
"It appears ( it only appears) that these IV's and LDN's he prescribes can possibly keep HCV at bay, where one can have this virus and not suffer severe liver damage. "
And where is that study data published - I think we've asked that respectfully many times before and never gotten an answer. If this were true every single one of us stage 3 and over would have taken this stuff - heck even stage 1 then we'd never ever have to do treatment........that would be awesome wouldn't it?
"It appears ( it only appears) that these IV's and LDN's he prescribes can possibly keep HCV at bay, where one can have this virus and not suffer severe liver damage. "
And where is that study data published - I think we've asked that respectfully many times before and never gotten an answer. If this were true every single one of us stage 3 and over would have taken this stuff - heck even stage 1 then we'd never ever have to do treatment........that would be awesome wouldn't it?
Please disagree respectfully. There's no reason for anyone to get insulting.
Thanks,
Emily
Thanks,
Emily
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