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Has anyone gotten Hep c from sex?
I've heard is can be transmitted by sex. But here in medhelp everybody that is married an has 30 years married their partner doesn't get it. Can that data be wrong cause I haven't spoken to one person here that has gotten it through sex.
Has anyone gotten it through sex, please reply.
Has anyone gotten it through sex, please reply.
Yep that's why I said " I don't know my opinion" to be fact. I'm speaking to nail clippers. I'm a guy and know nothing about a manicure. That maybe a more involved process than cutting you nails at home.
As far as dormant, I'm not sure why they use that word. Maybe VL stays low for many years and has little effect. Then it increases and starts to do damage. Dormant gives the idea that the virus is basically dead and then somehow wakes up. Perhaps it's correct to say minimal activity.
All I really know is I hate the little $/!+. Want to attain SVR,and hope my liver will get healthy.
As far as dormant, I'm not sure why they use that word. Maybe VL stays low for many years and has little effect. Then it increases and starts to do damage. Dormant gives the idea that the virus is basically dead and then somehow wakes up. Perhaps it's correct to say minimal activity.
All I really know is I hate the little $/!+. Want to attain SVR,and hope my liver will get healthy.
I would agree with what Trish wrote. I think it may be a matter of nomenclature for some doctors who witness some people with HCV having seemingly no liver damage as describing it as dormant.
What most of the literature shows is that while for many people the first decade or two of infection may be uneventful, or relatively so there is still damage that occurs that is linear generally related to the duration of the infection even though it may be very gradual. In that respect, it is not truly dormant.
Further, the more one investigates HCV one also becomes aware that the damage is not limited to liver issues. There are a number of studies which are now linking HCV with a number of extra-hepatic issues; cardio-pulmonary, predisposition to diabetes, depression and a number of auto-immune issues. These and possibly other issues are related to being infected for decades. I don't believe that the issue of dormancy is well documented. It may well be an old belief, or it is an ill chosen word to relate a concept to patients. It may convey a general idea to patients while not really being accurate.
Like I say, I think that it is a matter of nomenclature. Doctors may see HCV infected patients with little or no damage who may even drink alcohol to excess. They need some model or term to describe what they see and perhaps active or inactive/dormant may be descriptive for them but strictly speaking I don't believe that it is an accurate term. I'd be more willing to accept *relatively* dormant in documented cases, but I doubt many of these so called dormant cases had all the medical work ups which verified that no other extra-hepatic damage also occurred. Keep in mind, one can't compare such patients to the norm of what average people expect; one would have to compare it to the same person w/o the infection. What we actually see with liver damage is that damage occurs and damage is repaired. With time and increased fibrosis progression the repair function of the liver become overrun by the amount being damaged. Even while this happens the actual damage is not always evident. Many people seem fine and appear to be in good health, which may lead one to believe that the disease is indeed dormant.
On the issue of fingernail and manicure issues, that can be like sex; the event may vary a lot from party to party. I doubt that I could ever transmit by sharing may fingernail trimmers. At nail salon I have been told that the workers can be very vigorous and have shed blood on occasion. In that circumstance you may have an event where another person may arrive in minutes and be worked on with the same tool. At my house the same trimmers might not get used for weeks. The degree of risk at the manicure salon will be exponentially greater than at my house.
My first year following diagnosis I looked to the CDC for information but I found it to be scant, very brief and possibly patchy. Generally speaking they are factual.
Do you notice that the above list doesn't specifically list military service as posing increased risk? Or that innoculation via air gun as a possible mode of transmission? Snorting of drugs? Tattoos?
I was always a little underwhelmed with the offering from the CDC. I think the information is better elsewhere.
best,
Willy
Willy
What most of the literature shows is that while for many people the first decade or two of infection may be uneventful, or relatively so there is still damage that occurs that is linear generally related to the duration of the infection even though it may be very gradual. In that respect, it is not truly dormant.
Further, the more one investigates HCV one also becomes aware that the damage is not limited to liver issues. There are a number of studies which are now linking HCV with a number of extra-hepatic issues; cardio-pulmonary, predisposition to diabetes, depression and a number of auto-immune issues. These and possibly other issues are related to being infected for decades. I don't believe that the issue of dormancy is well documented. It may well be an old belief, or it is an ill chosen word to relate a concept to patients. It may convey a general idea to patients while not really being accurate.
Like I say, I think that it is a matter of nomenclature. Doctors may see HCV infected patients with little or no damage who may even drink alcohol to excess. They need some model or term to describe what they see and perhaps active or inactive/dormant may be descriptive for them but strictly speaking I don't believe that it is an accurate term. I'd be more willing to accept *relatively* dormant in documented cases, but I doubt many of these so called dormant cases had all the medical work ups which verified that no other extra-hepatic damage also occurred. Keep in mind, one can't compare such patients to the norm of what average people expect; one would have to compare it to the same person w/o the infection. What we actually see with liver damage is that damage occurs and damage is repaired. With time and increased fibrosis progression the repair function of the liver become overrun by the amount being damaged. Even while this happens the actual damage is not always evident. Many people seem fine and appear to be in good health, which may lead one to believe that the disease is indeed dormant.
On the issue of fingernail and manicure issues, that can be like sex; the event may vary a lot from party to party. I doubt that I could ever transmit by sharing may fingernail trimmers. At nail salon I have been told that the workers can be very vigorous and have shed blood on occasion. In that circumstance you may have an event where another person may arrive in minutes and be worked on with the same tool. At my house the same trimmers might not get used for weeks. The degree of risk at the manicure salon will be exponentially greater than at my house.
My first year following diagnosis I looked to the CDC for information but I found it to be scant, very brief and possibly patchy. Generally speaking they are factual.
Do you notice that the above list doesn't specifically list military service as posing increased risk? Or that innoculation via air gun as a possible mode of transmission? Snorting of drugs? Tattoos?
I was always a little underwhelmed with the offering from the CDC. I think the information is better elsewhere.
best,
Willy
Willy
I think "dormant" is an inaccurate word to use. Laying low is one thing, dormant is another. It may seem like semantics but the implications of the words are entirely different. "Dormant" means inactive. Laying low indicates more of an undetected unnoticeable state. I don't care for either term really but "laying low" is closer to the reality. Hep C is never inactive. It's just doing it's damage slowly and unnoticed - usually. However it's not "dormant".
As for nail clippers, I think they're covered in the "such as" portion of:
"Sharing personal items contaminated with infectious blood, such as razors or toothbrushes (also inefficient vectors of transmission) "
Very inefficient to be sure but still enough of a concern that it's become standard practice to sterilize instruments used by manicurists and not to re-use them.
I don't know if I've ever read of anyone who was able to confirm they got HCV from using someone else's toothbrush either but we still know it's possible.
As for nail clippers, I think they're covered in the "such as" portion of:
"Sharing personal items contaminated with infectious blood, such as razors or toothbrushes (also inefficient vectors of transmission) "
Very inefficient to be sure but still enough of a concern that it's become standard practice to sterilize instruments used by manicurists and not to re-use them.
I don't know if I've ever read of anyone who was able to confirm they got HCV from using someone else's toothbrush either but we still know it's possible.
Here's what the CDC says
Transmission and Symptoms
How is HCV transmitted?
HCV is transmitted primarily through large or repeated percutaneous (i.e., passage through the skin) exposures to infectious blood, such as
Injection drug use (currently the most common means of HCV transmission in the United States)
Receipt of donated blood, blood products, and organs (once a common means of transmission but now rare in the United States since blood screening became available in 1992)
Needlestick injuries in health care settings
Birth to an HCV-infected mother
HCV can also be spread infrequently through
Sex with an HCV-infected person (an inefficient means of transmission)
Sharing personal items contaminated with infectious blood, such as razors or toothbrushes (also inefficient vectors of transmission)
Other health care procedures that involve invasive procedures, such as injections (usually recognized in the context of outbreaks)
It doesn't mention nail clippers. Maybe you should have read what they actually do say.
Transmission and Symptoms
How is HCV transmitted?
HCV is transmitted primarily through large or repeated percutaneous (i.e., passage through the skin) exposures to infectious blood, such as
Injection drug use (currently the most common means of HCV transmission in the United States)
Receipt of donated blood, blood products, and organs (once a common means of transmission but now rare in the United States since blood screening became available in 1992)
Needlestick injuries in health care settings
Birth to an HCV-infected mother
HCV can also be spread infrequently through
Sex with an HCV-infected person (an inefficient means of transmission)
Sharing personal items contaminated with infectious blood, such as razors or toothbrushes (also inefficient vectors of transmission)
Other health care procedures that involve invasive procedures, such as injections (usually recognized in the context of outbreaks)
It doesn't mention nail clippers. Maybe you should have read what they actually do say.
I'm sure they have good reason. I said I didn't know anyone who is a confirmed case of transmission via a nail clipper. I also said maybe I'm being naive. I never said it wasn't possible. I simply said "I wonder".
I seriously don't think the CDC would list it as a way of contracting HCV unless they had a good reason to believe that it was so. They tend to think it is kind of important to get their facts straight because every doctor in the country looks to them. Maybe you should read what they have to say about it.
Diane
Diane
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