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Iron: What gets it down?
Okay, I'm probably posting too much. So I'll ease up after this one. But I've seen some suggestions by forum members about how to get down iron levels, and I thought it would be a nice idea if everyone who knew of some way to do it posted it so that we'd have a list of them. I'm into organizing things. I know it's annoying but I can't help it, it's a mania of mine.
Like, I saw a post from MerryBe about a drug named desferal or something that reduces iron and maybe could even replace plebotomy. She also mentioned that black tea binds iron. I didn't know either of these things. I've got high iron and i want to get it down, if possible before starting therapy.
There's this webpage I read (http://lefcms.lef.org/protocols/infections/hepatitis_c_01.htm) that says: " Despite substantial scientific evidence, however, few physicians implement iron-depletion therapy before beginning antiviral therapy. This partially accounts for the high failure rate of conventional drugs in eradicating the virus (Boucher E et al 1997; Martin-Vivaldi R et al 1997; Tsai NC et al 1997). So it seems like it might be important for me to start doing something now rather than later about my high iron, but I don't really know what to do. I mean, there's lactoferrin and IP6/Inositol as supplements, but there are also probably a lot of other things that reduce iron. I'd really like to know what they all are so I could decide what to take.
Maybe others would benefit from the same info.
So, if I'm not making too much of a pain in the a$$ of myself, could I twist everyone's arm who knows something about this to post it here?
Thanks!
Mike
Like, I saw a post from MerryBe about a drug named desferal or something that reduces iron and maybe could even replace plebotomy. She also mentioned that black tea binds iron. I didn't know either of these things. I've got high iron and i want to get it down, if possible before starting therapy.
There's this webpage I read (http://lefcms.lef.org/protocols/infections/hepatitis_c_01.htm) that says: " Despite substantial scientific evidence, however, few physicians implement iron-depletion therapy before beginning antiviral therapy. This partially accounts for the high failure rate of conventional drugs in eradicating the virus (Boucher E et al 1997; Martin-Vivaldi R et al 1997; Tsai NC et al 1997). So it seems like it might be important for me to start doing something now rather than later about my high iron, but I don't really know what to do. I mean, there's lactoferrin and IP6/Inositol as supplements, but there are also probably a lot of other things that reduce iron. I'd really like to know what they all are so I could decide what to take.
Maybe others would benefit from the same info.
So, if I'm not making too much of a pain in the a$$ of myself, could I twist everyone's arm who knows something about this to post it here?
Thanks!
Mike
Fear of phlebotomies LOL.........LOL, I thought that all the new yorkers up there were tough.......LOL..........
gsd Denise
gsd Denise
I'm gonna try to get my iron down if I can just find some lactoferrin down here in the Southern Hemisphere.
Normal, huh? You're right, that's a new one on me :¬]
That article on iron in kidney disease was pretty scary. It says that over 800 ng, it starts depositing out in the cells. That doesn't do 'em much good, I bet.
Crafty, those Taiwanese. And we could sure use some of their nano-stuff, 'cause if interferon and ribavirin is the best that the drug companies can come up with, the world's HCV+ population is up the proverbial creek...
Mike
Normal, huh? You're right, that's a new one on me :¬]
That article on iron in kidney disease was pretty scary. It says that over 800 ng, it starts depositing out in the cells. That doesn't do 'em much good, I bet.
Crafty, those Taiwanese. And we could sure use some of their nano-stuff, 'cause if interferon and ribavirin is the best that the drug companies can come up with, the world's HCV+ population is up the proverbial creek...
Mike
Nah not too high yet. nornal is 30-300. you are high normal.
OK if it were me I'd like it lower, but you are normal.
Bet you never thought you would hear anyone say that about ya.
Iron Overeload is Iron Overload no matter what disease you have.
NAC is good for tylenol overdose
Does a fair bit more though.
Not Korea Taiwan for the magnets.
CS
OK if it were me I'd like it lower, but you are normal.
Bet you never thought you would hear anyone say that about ya.
Iron Overeload is Iron Overload no matter what disease you have.
NAC is good for tylenol overdose
Does a fair bit more though.
Not Korea Taiwan for the magnets.
CS
} Iron overload, according to the K/DOQI guidelines, may occur in patients who have
} serum ferritins in excess of 800 ng/ml,
Does that mean serum ferretin of 298ng/mL isn't too high yet? That would surprise me, as 300 is apparently the ULN, and gauf says the normal range is 30 to 80. Maybe 800 is the upper limit for kidney disorders?
Re the nano magnets...come on, you're holding out on me, I want that address in Korea where they're producing 'em :] Sure, sure, the FDA doesn't approve nano magnets, but so what? The h*ll with the FDA!
BTW, what is N-Acetyl Cysteine good for?
Mike
} serum ferritins in excess of 800 ng/ml,
Does that mean serum ferretin of 298ng/mL isn't too high yet? That would surprise me, as 300 is apparently the ULN, and gauf says the normal range is 30 to 80. Maybe 800 is the upper limit for kidney disorders?
Re the nano magnets...come on, you're holding out on me, I want that address in Korea where they're producing 'em :] Sure, sure, the FDA doesn't approve nano magnets, but so what? The h*ll with the FDA!
BTW, what is N-Acetyl Cysteine good for?
Mike
Mike - Serum ferretin 298 ng/mL
You have 298 nanograms of ferritin per 1000th of a liter
From http://cjasn.asnjournals dot org/cgi/content/full/1/Supplement_1/S4.
replace “ dot “ with “.”
hopefully Medhelp wont trash the link.
Its about high Iron in Kidney disease and is quite good.
Iron overload, according to the K/DOQI guidelines, may occur in patients who have serum ferritins in excess of 800 ng/ml,
Does that help.
“Mike - CockSparrow's little magnets... if he'll just come across and fess up to where he gets them”
As for the nano magnets you will have to wait for the future for em.
Cracked me up you did.
Oh Yeh NAC= N-Acetyl Cysteine
CS
You have 298 nanograms of ferritin per 1000th of a liter
From http://cjasn.asnjournals dot org/cgi/content/full/1/Supplement_1/S4.
replace “ dot “ with “.”
hopefully Medhelp wont trash the link.
Its about high Iron in Kidney disease and is quite good.
Iron overload, according to the K/DOQI guidelines, may occur in patients who have serum ferritins in excess of 800 ng/ml,
Does that help.
“Mike - CockSparrow's little magnets... if he'll just come across and fess up to where he gets them”
As for the nano magnets you will have to wait for the future for em.
Cracked me up you did.
Oh Yeh NAC= N-Acetyl Cysteine
CS
Trinity4 and GSDgirl have put the fear of phlebotomy into me. I'd rather take lactoferrin, calcium, black and green tea extracts, garlic, and even CockSparrow's little magnets... if he'll just come across and fess up to where he gets them :]
M.
M.
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