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TX in Leg or Belly
Well i started the Treatment back in may 9 of this year and my viral load started at 4460000 and for the first 24 shots i put them into my legs and they were starting to bother me there with the rash and itching and my viral came down to 50200 as of 8-4
I was to scared to do my belly. So I decided to start the belly shot on my 25 shot and as of now my viral has dropped to 4140 as of 11-4 and my doc has said it alot better to do the belly because it gets into the blood faster then the legs so any turth in that?? Belly better or legs ??
Kenny
I was to scared to do my belly. So I decided to start the belly shot on my 25 shot and as of now my viral has dropped to 4140 as of 11-4 and my doc has said it alot better to do the belly because it gets into the blood faster then the legs so any turth in that?? Belly better or legs ??
Kenny
The nurse says that it would be just as easy to add 6 inches to my tongue as 2 inches.No cost difference. Whatcha think??
May your tongue cleave to the roof of your mouth!!! off I go into slumber land with an image of Woody Allen diddling his own girl **** on his chest...thanks a mil Goofers!! he he he
I am type 1a Stage 2 grade 2 and fiboruis with a 1% fatty and i got 5 more months to go before i am done.. I am hope to be DONE by the end of 48 weeks But if i have to go another 12 weeks I (guess) i will as much as i hate the Tx i have to do what i have to do to get well...
As for my doc he don't give to much hope to be clear and he has said that at the begainning!! What he knows LOL i have came down from 4 million to 4 thousand in six 1/2 month must be good !!
I see some has a weight problem SkINNY that me and been that way all my life i have small bones and my weight has always been 125 to 135 and my height is 5"7 and started the tx i gained the weight to 141 and that all stayed in my belly and my pants started to shink LOL so i started to cut down on what i eat and not eat so much and eat more fiber stuff that don't have the lucky charm fat LOl, eat alot more fiber ceral and wheat stuff, now i have fit back into my pants and can't afford to just go and buy new pants and yes i wear alot of sweat pants but not to town...
People can be CURL to others because of there weight and how the look or talk and when people LOOK the wrong way i will look back and even say something to them and i WILL come off the wrong way and PISSED them off and ask me if i care "NO" just the way i am...
Have A Great Holiday ALL
Kenny
As for my doc he don't give to much hope to be clear and he has said that at the begainning!! What he knows LOL i have came down from 4 million to 4 thousand in six 1/2 month must be good !!
I see some has a weight problem SkINNY that me and been that way all my life i have small bones and my weight has always been 125 to 135 and my height is 5"7 and started the tx i gained the weight to 141 and that all stayed in my belly and my pants started to shink LOL so i started to cut down on what i eat and not eat so much and eat more fiber stuff that don't have the lucky charm fat LOl, eat alot more fiber ceral and wheat stuff, now i have fit back into my pants and can't afford to just go and buy new pants and yes i wear alot of sweat pants but not to town...
People can be CURL to others because of there weight and how the look or talk and when people LOOK the wrong way i will look back and even say something to them and i WILL come off the wrong way and PISSED them off and ask me if i care "NO" just the way i am...
Have A Great Holiday ALL
Kenny
Thanks Chev! Never thought I'd end up taking care of a 16 year old at my age, but maybe she was put in front of me for a reason...like if youre taking care of a kid and a dog you don't have that much time to sit around and feel sorry for yourself???he he he. Though I won't lie to you....sometimes that doesn't stop me! And she does go off with relatives for time outs, I really gotta hand it to you mom's that have to work full time and take care of a kid full time, don't know how you do it!! and Dad's too!
Tator...to qualify myself, I do like the look of some tatoos, and I do like the look of a belly button ring. My stomach is still pretty flat...maybe I'll do it after all this madness is over. You have to make sure the person uses a new needle on you that you watched them take from a new package. Why not? Once I get old I can always use the ring to hold up my jammies.
Tator...to qualify myself, I do like the look of some tatoos, and I do like the look of a belly button ring. My stomach is still pretty flat...maybe I'll do it after all this madness is over. You have to make sure the person uses a new needle on you that you watched them take from a new package. Why not? Once I get old I can always use the ring to hold up my jammies.
Thanks for being a sport. Apologies for having some fun at your expense. Let me just say that the procedure you described is decidedly NOT what I had in mind regarding an afternoon of having boobies stuffed in my belly-button!
thanks,that really tickled me...i got a nice chuckle outa yr wit--yu r the treasure...appreciatively,tommy--the ears part esp..that is what there for,right?cuz we sure don't listen w/ em
wow, you've been really through it, I know a little about that post op pain...sorry you've been through so much, and I sit around moaning about the fact that i just have hcv. Reading a post like yours puts me in perspective, yet we all muddle through.
Speaking from the land of floating mammaries...I've had a few girlfriends who got something extra up there...and few just loved their new boobies, a few had probs with them, one had one boob go up towards her shoulder...I can totally see why you had yours done, I would of done it under those circumstances...but for purely cosmetic purposes? don't think I'd do it. Would guys go under the knife because we ladies suddenly got a hankerin' for extra large testicles? Say, the size of baseballs. Granted, they could more easily affect that macho, "George Bush meets John Wayne" kinda walk so many people are mad about...but I doubt that many guys would opt for it. They are more conditioned to be secure in their own bodies. Though there are those guys that have chest and calf implants, we won't go there....
What really blows my mind is this generation's preoccupation with pain. Full body tats and ear stretching, piercings of all kinds. You figure, they can basically call this type of cultural phenomena their own, we really didn't go for any of this stuff when we were young. (I so sound like my parents, ugh!) And most of the cultural things they do have is redux, given to them by our generation...it's all been done before...most of their music, guys with long hair, their fashion statments, most everything...so I postulate that's why they're so up for all this masochism, at least it's something they are doing that they came up with themselves, though they are welcome to it. A 16 year old girl that I take care of (her own parents are out to lunch with booze and drugs) came home with a little present from one of her girlfriends. It was a piercing hole stretcher. What a wierd thing to give somebody.
Speaking from the land of floating mammaries...I've had a few girlfriends who got something extra up there...and few just loved their new boobies, a few had probs with them, one had one boob go up towards her shoulder...I can totally see why you had yours done, I would of done it under those circumstances...but for purely cosmetic purposes? don't think I'd do it. Would guys go under the knife because we ladies suddenly got a hankerin' for extra large testicles? Say, the size of baseballs. Granted, they could more easily affect that macho, "George Bush meets John Wayne" kinda walk so many people are mad about...but I doubt that many guys would opt for it. They are more conditioned to be secure in their own bodies. Though there are those guys that have chest and calf implants, we won't go there....
What really blows my mind is this generation's preoccupation with pain. Full body tats and ear stretching, piercings of all kinds. You figure, they can basically call this type of cultural phenomena their own, we really didn't go for any of this stuff when we were young. (I so sound like my parents, ugh!) And most of the cultural things they do have is redux, given to them by our generation...it's all been done before...most of their music, guys with long hair, their fashion statments, most everything...so I postulate that's why they're so up for all this masochism, at least it's something they are doing that they came up with themselves, though they are welcome to it. A 16 year old girl that I take care of (her own parents are out to lunch with booze and drugs) came home with a little present from one of her girlfriends. It was a piercing hole stretcher. What a wierd thing to give somebody.
"it's a trip waking up & finding those big ol things sitten on your chest....LMAO"
To paraphrase Woody Allen, if I woke up with a pair of those I might never get out of bed....
To paraphrase Woody Allen, if I woke up with a pair of those I might never get out of bed....
Well as long as we're trashing a perfectly good thread....
"they put ...boobies in ....my belly button..."
Sounds like a fine way to while away a lazy afternoon to me....
"they put ...boobies in ....my belly button..."
Sounds like a fine way to while away a lazy afternoon to me....
Seriously why did those women burn their bras? What in the world did they do to us! :-O
At least now in this day and age 'Tory can help us through the bellybuttonboob syndrome thank God ;-)
Did ya see Tyra Banks when she let hers out/down? It made me feel so GOOD that they fell like that I can't tell you (of course hers are gorgeous when picked up).
Bless her for being natural and giving real women a chance to be real women (although if I had any money at all...they sure wouldn't be so real anylonger I guarantee you THAT - SuperWoman would have nothing on me! :)
PS I missed the Goofy Nipple Picture can someone please send it my way? ;-p
At least now in this day and age 'Tory can help us through the bellybuttonboob syndrome thank God ;-)
Did ya see Tyra Banks when she let hers out/down? It made me feel so GOOD that they fell like that I can't tell you (of course hers are gorgeous when picked up).
Bless her for being natural and giving real women a chance to be real women (although if I had any money at all...they sure wouldn't be so real anylonger I guarantee you THAT - SuperWoman would have nothing on me! :)
PS I missed the Goofy Nipple Picture can someone please send it my way? ;-p
"Goof, we are all impressed by your solid gold nipple rings "
Gold is soooo gauche. Does noooooobody wear platinum anymore? Trust me, when my shirt comes off, heads turn!
"got a Nip needing a little pucker too..."
Hey, who couldn't use that once in a while?
Gold is soooo gauche. Does noooooobody wear platinum anymore? Trust me, when my shirt comes off, heads turn!
"got a Nip needing a little pucker too..."
Hey, who couldn't use that once in a while?
hey! I got an innie and an outie too! so yours are normal! lol.
only problem was my little one trying to suckle on the innie! and of course, I won't be working for Tory's secrets in the future, unless they sell adaptive bras to droopy look.
No complaints, but I should not have gone braless in the 70's! especially when nursing, you should have seen those sucklers!
only problem was my little one trying to suckle on the innie! and of course, I won't be working for Tory's secrets in the future, unless they sell adaptive bras to droopy look.
No complaints, but I should not have gone braless in the 70's! especially when nursing, you should have seen those sucklers!
in all there various permutations--them gal things are just plain wonderful!!!! sorry if they have caused undue concern,we are only products of our enviroment/culture,whats a poor Boy to do????
You're probably finding out that the "best" injection site varies with the individual and the doctor or NP.
For Pegasys, I like the upper/lower abdomen/love handle (what's left of 'em :) ) areas because that's where I have the most fat. I also feel the drug enters my system more evenly in this area again probably due to more fat being present. I sometimes inject in my outer thigh for Procrit but only to give my abdomen a rest.
Here's a good diagram of where to inject from the Janis web site -- scroll down until you get to the injection site part. http://janis7hepc.com/treatment_help.htm#h
The main points when in jecting in the belly is not to inject into or very near the belly button, avoid the waistline and rotate the injecion sites as much as possible. I'll also note that the current Pegasys web site (unlike the 2003 Diagram from Janis) does not show injection sites above the waistline although I haven't found anywhere where they warn against it. My guess -- and it's only that -- is they are afraid that someone may inject too high up into the rib area but at least with my anatomy there's a very big gap between my waistline and the lower ribs. The two NP's I've worked with told me above or below the waistline was fine just be sure to rotate the spots to avoid injection site irritation/reaction.
-- Jim
For Pegasys, I like the upper/lower abdomen/love handle (what's left of 'em :) ) areas because that's where I have the most fat. I also feel the drug enters my system more evenly in this area again probably due to more fat being present. I sometimes inject in my outer thigh for Procrit but only to give my abdomen a rest.
Here's a good diagram of where to inject from the Janis web site -- scroll down until you get to the injection site part. http://janis7hepc.com/treatment_help.htm#h
The main points when in jecting in the belly is not to inject into or very near the belly button, avoid the waistline and rotate the injecion sites as much as possible. I'll also note that the current Pegasys web site (unlike the 2003 Diagram from Janis) does not show injection sites above the waistline although I haven't found anywhere where they warn against it. My guess -- and it's only that -- is they are afraid that someone may inject too high up into the rib area but at least with my anatomy there's a very big gap between my waistline and the lower ribs. The two NP's I've worked with told me above or below the waistline was fine just be sure to rotate the spots to avoid injection site irritation/reaction.
-- Jim
LOL!!!Your storytelling is priceless. It is what kept me going during tx. What amazes me is that you can make a hilarious comedy out of a tragedy! Your friends are never going to let you go!
Glad people found your real eyeballs!
Glad people found your real eyeballs!
ONe year already? those dresses look fabulous on you in spite! I thought it was only one, but I noticed you used plural term, was it both? Congratulations on the anniversary. Next yr there will be another anniversary added to celebrate CURES.
DEANO is getting desperate.
DEANO is getting desperate.
I switched to my belly at about shot 8 because someone said nuropathy could result from hitting the same spot. So I traverse the belly with the peg and inject the other **** anywhere in the thighs. Thighs are especially appropriate for the procrit since that bruises about half the time and I like to be able to remove my shirt without looking too gross.
Actually, I'd like to be able to drop trowe without looking too gross too, but alas those days are a few years behind me it seems. Unlike wine, not everything improves with age.
On the rude front, I lost weight last year, but have been stable for 6+ mos. I get seemingly constant comments about loosing weight.
You don't have Aids or something?
I hope you're not sick.
You might want to go in for a check-up.
All well meaning, but puhleeeeeze, give it up!
Actually, I'd like to be able to drop trowe without looking too gross too, but alas those days are a few years behind me it seems. Unlike wine, not everything improves with age.
On the rude front, I lost weight last year, but have been stable for 6+ mos. I get seemingly constant comments about loosing weight.
You don't have Aids or something?
I hope you're not sick.
You might want to go in for a check-up.
All well meaning, but puhleeeeeze, give it up!
We can call each other ChickenLegs. I can so totally relate it's not even funny.
It's so good to know you are not alone isn't it? I love this board so much.
Sorry to say your pain made me smile ;-) cause these sticks are just ridiculous. I think my knees are the biggest part of them now - no more skirts for a while, thank God it's winter.
I have 2 appx 2in x 2in areas, 1 to each side of and below my belly button. Just enough meat to get a good grip. Figure tip of needle is so small there must be a few hundred places in those areas to go. I have alternated left to right each of the 12 weeks. Haven't noticed any bruising or rashing. Always wondered though,looking at the diagrams in the pegasys lit- its about the same as I do- but- they say avoid waistline. As an artist with lots of my training in anatomy and drawing the human figure(yeah Goof, lottsa nudes in school), and as a former clothing salesman at hottest 'boutique in it's day, I aways considered that area part the waistline. 1st shot nite I looked at it, shrugged, and jabbed.
**(Goof-early 70's and 98% of customers were 15 to 30 yro females on the nightclub circuit, I was 21 and single...you know the routine, "WOW miss,why you look wonderful all dressed up, now you just need a place to go.." worst paying greatest job I ever had. Gave up a good paying construction job for that one, my buddies thought I was crazy. Crazy yes, stupid no. Parentheses not wide enough for a face that happy!
Don
**(Goof-early 70's and 98% of customers were 15 to 30 yro females on the nightclub circuit, I was 21 and single...you know the routine, "WOW miss,why you look wonderful all dressed up, now you just need a place to go.." worst paying greatest job I ever had. Gave up a good paying construction job for that one, my buddies thought I was crazy. Crazy yes, stupid no. Parentheses not wide enough for a face that happy!
Don
Great name, youre included in Napolean Dynamite too, he he he! Anyway, thanks for that, whenever I hear of all these people injecting, I wonder why they don't do it in the tush. That's where I have the most fat..thanks for your honesty, it sometimes floors me how honest and forthcoming so many of us are with each other on these boards...I guess having a potentially deadly disease we can cut right to the chase, why sweat the small stuff??Anyway, are you off the meds now? Anyway, I hope youre well on or off.
Okay Goof, we are all impressed by your solid gold nipple rings (the linking chains are a bit much though) but now please, put your shirt back on...but honestly folks..where are you supposed to inject these things? I copy the threads I consider important for future relevancy...What occurs to me is shooting it in the old behind, lots of cushion...why not there?
I'm sure everyone has heard that they are presently making larger needles for the American market....but that's for shooting something else...
I'm sure everyone has heard that they are presently making larger needles for the American market....but that's for shooting something else...
I don't think it matters where you put the shot, but I tell my stomach is getting sore; and I have no other fat. Tonite is shot nite and I'm dreading it.
DS I hope you don't mind me asking about your tx protocol and if your doc has discussed any numbers with. Are you a type 1, if you clear soon are you going to extend tx. Peace
DS I hope you don't mind me asking about your tx protocol and if your doc has discussed any numbers with. Are you a type 1, if you clear soon are you going to extend tx. Peace
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