Want to reduce your viral load.?

[T246]

Anyone else have the success that I have.?.

I was diagnosed in Feb 2, 09.  I use a great holistic Dr is west Los Angeles, Joe Sciabbarrasi.  He, in fact found the HCV, not my GP.  I fired my GP, needless to say.

While I was waiting for biopsy Dr Sciabbarrasi had me do the following.

1.        Weekly, or every 10 days intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide.  These are significantly diluted in sterile water for administration.
2.       Intravenous infusions of glutathione and alpha lipoic acid run after each hydrogen peroxide infusion.
3.       Oral supplements to support liver healing and detoxification
4.       Self care, which is extremely important, including exercise, a healthy diet (organic as much as possible), drinking 8 to 10 16 oz glasses of water per day, no alcohol, social contacts and your own inner work (be that prayer, meditation, guided imagery, etc).  Reducing stress is always an important part of healing.

I did this for 5 weeks and my hep Dr ran labs.  My load went from 1.79 MM to 271,000.

I am moving ahead with traditional treatment shortly, but many studies point to this:
HCV genotype 1 patients with low baseline HCV RNA defined as 600,000 IU/mL or less also noted benefit of attaining a higher % RVR and SVR from Peg, Co-Peg treatment.  I will spare more details, you most likely already know them.

This is by no means a replacement, or cure, but It cannot hurt.  
FYI, I also lost 8% of my body wait through diet during this time, it all helps.
Many that do not believe in Peg, Co Peg treatment may want to try this as well.

Sciabbarrasi's phone # [phone].  Tell him you read this on this site.

This site is great, thank to you all for helping me.


310-268-8466

[HCA]

Great!
Where do I sign?
Does he take Amex?

[GreatBird]

I googled him. Actually, he seems like the kind of doctor I would want to see *after* treatment, to get my body back in sync and the meds cleaned out. I will bookmark. I'm not in WLA anymore, but I come to LA to treat (on a clinical trial through Cedars), so it's not out of the question.

[FlGuy]

I went to a doc for advice and doing so he got my viral load from 4 million to zero in two weeks.  Didn't even need an IV infusion.

[mikesimon]

I think you mean undetectable and not zero.
My doctor did the same thing for me and he was a proctologist. He said that the hepatologists were doing it A$$ backward whereas he had a totally different perspective.

[T246]

How did he do it.?

[jdwithhcv]

He used his magic want, of course!

[CoWriter]

Could you please explain the rationale for using the hydrogen peroxide?

Thank you,

Co

[T246]

CoWriter, I did research on it, but suggest you contact this Dr to best understand why.  I also see going into to too much detail on this site may be a bit wasteful.  There are a few wise ***'s on the site and they do not deserve serious time.  It is most likely a reflection of how they care for themselves.

mikesimon, what is a magic want.?  

[jdwithhcv]

That was a typo - magic wand is what was meant, and Mike did not post it - I did.

"It is most likely a reflection of how they care for themselves."

That's a bit of a non-sequitor, wouldn't you say?

[Trinity4]

"Tell him you read this on this site."

Will I get a discount?  10% - 15%    First IV treatment free?

[geterdone]

are you sure it is non-sequitor and not... non Sequitur?  

[jdwithhcv]

bad typing today - oh well, we see bad typists all the time.  BTW, it can be spelled either way.

[jmjm530]

Quack. Quack. And btw the drop noted is less than 1 log which -- if true -- could be entirely accounted for by the variance in the test itself. FWIW I lowered my viral load from over 35 million to around 150,000 in a few years, and only dated one peroxide  blonde,  so send the money to me. LOL.

-- Jim

[jdwithhcv]

I lowered my viral load from 6 million to UND in 4 weeks, no peroxide needed as my hair had fallen out!

[jmjm530]

I've heard of dumb blonde jokes but this is the first dumb virus joke.

[Bill1028]

Jim, don’t knock it until you try it.  It looks like you can get nice results from this.

http://www.webmd.com/news/20060728/high-strength-hydrogen-peroxide-danger

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/190510-hydrogen-peroxide-a-warning-and-a-dangerous-scam

http://www.medmutual.com/global/webmd/WebMDArticle.aspx?id=091e9c5e8000b62c&aType=AlternativeMedicine

http://www.snopes.com/medical/homecure/peroxide.asp

[apache1]

quote from T246:
I did this for 5 weeks and my hep Dr ran labs.  My load went from 1.79 MM to 271,000.
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Thats a 1,519,000 drop..seems like a lot, but
in all reality that is
less than a 1 log drop.
The reason Hepatologist use the log system is because anything less than a 1 log drop is not significant, and probably part of the normal fluctuations in many HCV infected people.

The reason I say this is because my VL fluctuated from 780,000 to 7 mil in the months before my tx started. I questioned my Dr about it. He said he sees this all the time. Thats when my doc explained why he uses the log system. There is a good reason most top hepatologist do not gamble with the short course treatment with one of the parameters being based on low starting VL load.

IMO your VL drop very possibly might have happened without intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide.
Maybe it had something to do with your health improvement and diet.
Without any studies to prove intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide lowers viral load with no adverse effects I am not buying it.

IMO, any DR that treats a patient with non approved treatment, that has no clinical trials to prove these treatments worthy, is not who I want to treat me.
I searched for intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide and HCV and found no such clinical trials or even any studies. Actually I found the opposite, unless I wanted to but some treatments.
This is what I did find
A simple google search on intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide treatments found this CBS article
of this Dr that found himself in a world of trouble after his treatment killed his patient, and there are other similar cases.

"Dr. James Shortt calls himself a "longevity physician." But the death of one of his patients has been ruled a homicide, and investigators are now looking for more."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/12/60II/main666489.shtml

I would be very careful with these deadly treatments that are NOT FDA-approved.

apache

[FlGuy]

Pre-dosed riba for a week and double Peg for two weeks before the undetectable reading.  Mike's right, it wasn't zero but less than 50.

[Trinity4]

I figured out where I erred in my treatment.

I should of started out with Lloyd Wrong, added LDN to reverse my advanced stage 3 fibrosis, jumped on the Sciabbarrasi regiment and topped it off with Mesosilver.
Then I would of started SOC with no fibrosis, a very low viral load, RVR'd and could have quit treating at 24 wks.  Geez, hindsight.  

[T246]

If you choose to jump off a pier for SVR I would not dis agree.

[jdwithhcv]

Provided, of course, that you got a very good juicer!  

jd

[Isobella]

Ahhh...not so fast, Trin.  You forgot the juicer cure, lol!!

[Isobella]

LOL!  We were thinking alike on that one....wonder how Mom and Pop C. are doin these days, lol!

[Trinity4]

Seems I've been told to take a long walk off a short pier.  Maybe Matt Chin will throw me a battery operated juicer and can propel my way back to shore.