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Want to reduce your viral load.?
Anyone else have the success that I have.?.
I was diagnosed in Feb 2, 09. I use a great holistic Dr is west Los Angeles, Joe Sciabbarrasi. He, in fact found the HCV, not my GP. I fired my GP, needless to say.
While I was waiting for biopsy Dr Sciabbarrasi had me do the following.
1. Weekly, or every 10 days intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide. These are significantly diluted in sterile water for administration.
2. Intravenous infusions of glutathione and alpha lipoic acid run after each hydrogen peroxide infusion.
3. Oral supplements to support liver healing and detoxification
4. Self care, which is extremely important, including exercise, a healthy diet (organic as much as possible), drinking 8 to 10 16 oz glasses of water per day, no alcohol, social contacts and your own inner work (be that prayer, meditation, guided imagery, etc). Reducing stress is always an important part of healing.
I did this for 5 weeks and my hep Dr ran labs. My load went from 1.79 MM to 271,000.
I am moving ahead with traditional treatment shortly, but many studies point to this:
HCV genotype 1 patients with low baseline HCV RNA defined as 600,000 IU/mL or less also noted benefit of attaining a higher % RVR and SVR from Peg, Co-Peg treatment. I will spare more details, you most likely already know them.
This is by no means a replacement, or cure, but It cannot hurt.
FYI, I also lost 8% of my body wait through diet during this time, it all helps.
Many that do not believe in Peg, Co Peg treatment may want to try this as well.
Sciabbarrasi's phone # 310-268-8466. Tell him you read this on this site.
This site is great, thank to you all for helping me.
310-268-8466
I was diagnosed in Feb 2, 09. I use a great holistic Dr is west Los Angeles, Joe Sciabbarrasi. He, in fact found the HCV, not my GP. I fired my GP, needless to say.
While I was waiting for biopsy Dr Sciabbarrasi had me do the following.
1. Weekly, or every 10 days intravenous infusions of pharmaceutical purity hydrogen peroxide. These are significantly diluted in sterile water for administration.
2. Intravenous infusions of glutathione and alpha lipoic acid run after each hydrogen peroxide infusion.
3. Oral supplements to support liver healing and detoxification
4. Self care, which is extremely important, including exercise, a healthy diet (organic as much as possible), drinking 8 to 10 16 oz glasses of water per day, no alcohol, social contacts and your own inner work (be that prayer, meditation, guided imagery, etc). Reducing stress is always an important part of healing.
I did this for 5 weeks and my hep Dr ran labs. My load went from 1.79 MM to 271,000.
I am moving ahead with traditional treatment shortly, but many studies point to this:
HCV genotype 1 patients with low baseline HCV RNA defined as 600,000 IU/mL or less also noted benefit of attaining a higher % RVR and SVR from Peg, Co-Peg treatment. I will spare more details, you most likely already know them.
This is by no means a replacement, or cure, but It cannot hurt.
FYI, I also lost 8% of my body wait through diet during this time, it all helps.
Many that do not believe in Peg, Co Peg treatment may want to try this as well.
Sciabbarrasi's phone # 310-268-8466. Tell him you read this on this site.
This site is great, thank to you all for helping me.
310-268-8466
I have to disagree with you. When gastros decide to specialize in hepatology they are devoting their life to the research, treatment and cure for hcv and other liver diseases.
I can't fathom they would not entertain H202 infusions if they thought there was a possibility it would enhance SOC. Hepc research is constantly evolving and tremendous amounts of valuable information and progressive/aggressive thinking towards the treatment and cure of hcv have come out of these conferences. I have yet to see endorsement of H202.
Mike, the bottom line is if you are comfortable with it and feel it will work towards a more favorable outcome once you start tx that is what is important.
Good Luck
Trinity
I can't fathom they would not entertain H202 infusions if they thought there was a possibility it would enhance SOC. Hepc research is constantly evolving and tremendous amounts of valuable information and progressive/aggressive thinking towards the treatment and cure of hcv have come out of these conferences. I have yet to see endorsement of H202.
Mike, the bottom line is if you are comfortable with it and feel it will work towards a more favorable outcome once you start tx that is what is important.
Good Luck
Trinity
As I'm sure you are aware the limitation of all the things you are trying is that there is no statistically valid controlled study to say whether they work or not. There is a lot of hearsay. Indeed, there is unquestionably a considerable amount of quackery and outright unsubstantiated claims in the herbal and alternative medicine industry.
As you also know, whether these steps seem to work in a particular is not meaningful evidence from a scientific point of view. You might have had exactly the same result with a different regimen. Individual testimonials don't really help those of us who are seeking to cure our HCV very much.
I'll be interested to hear if your perspective changes once you start combination therapy in a few months. At that point, you'll be in the thick of the traditional medical model. If you don't have anxiety, it will be unusual. Hopefully things will go well, but they may not. At that point, you'll learn, for example, that there is no evidence that milk thistle positively effects the course of HCV. This experience may alter your perspective on the alternative treatments and supplements. Or it may not. If things go well, you'll be convinced it's because of the alternative remedies.
Good luck!
As you also know, whether these steps seem to work in a particular is not meaningful evidence from a scientific point of view. You might have had exactly the same result with a different regimen. Individual testimonials don't really help those of us who are seeking to cure our HCV very much.
I'll be interested to hear if your perspective changes once you start combination therapy in a few months. At that point, you'll be in the thick of the traditional medical model. If you don't have anxiety, it will be unusual. Hopefully things will go well, but they may not. At that point, you'll learn, for example, that there is no evidence that milk thistle positively effects the course of HCV. This experience may alter your perspective on the alternative treatments and supplements. Or it may not. If things go well, you'll be convinced it's because of the alternative remedies.
Good luck!
Trinity, please remember that Intravenous infusions of glutathione and alpha lipoic acid run after each hydrogen peroxide infusion.
I have posted some thoughtful research from credible sources.
I do not think that most teaching Universities would recommend much outside of standard treatment, I just do not think it is in their DNA. The nursing professionals so far, however have been very bullish on this.
Is it not worth the try?, that is what I thought through.
I decided, yes.
I have posted some thoughtful research from credible sources.
I do not think that most teaching Universities would recommend much outside of standard treatment, I just do not think it is in their DNA. The nursing professionals so far, however have been very bullish on this.
Is it not worth the try?, that is what I thought through.
I decided, yes.
Willy, I think you are right on the money. I have done 5 of these treatments and will do one more this Monday. I hope to begin Peg/Copeg tx on May 8th if insurance set up goes smoothly. If this gets delayed a week, I may do one additional round of the H202 IV. After the first month of tx I will be tested and we will see the results.
Even If I am lucky enough to be RVR other factors could contribute. First things first though because RVR would be great anyone of us and it is no sure thing to say the least. Also, I am doing Milk Thistle, Liver Care, other supplements, eating well, drinking 150 oz. water per day, exercising a lot, 6x 1hr plus bike rides per week and weights 3x per week. Lots of stuff, but I figure it all may be a good thing.
Geez, I hope so.
Can't assume anything, all we can do is try.
Anything IV is not easy for me, but I felt and feel the H202 is doing good. We will see.
Thanks
T
Even If I am lucky enough to be RVR other factors could contribute. First things first though because RVR would be great anyone of us and it is no sure thing to say the least. Also, I am doing Milk Thistle, Liver Care, other supplements, eating well, drinking 150 oz. water per day, exercising a lot, 6x 1hr plus bike rides per week and weights 3x per week. Lots of stuff, but I figure it all may be a good thing.
Geez, I hope so.
Can't assume anything, all we can do is try.
Anything IV is not easy for me, but I felt and feel the H202 is doing good. We will see.
Thanks
T
Willy,
Considering the amount of time SOC has been on the market, I wonder why the AASLD or American Liver Foundation hasn't advocated or endorsed this? They are some of the most credible, intelligent and well established hepatologists and researchers in the world.
Wouldn't they have recommended hydrogen peroxide treatment as pre-treatment protocol for everyone by now? It would certainly give more credence to what a few individuals are claiming with no hard data and studies to back it up.
Considering the amount of time SOC has been on the market, I wonder why the AASLD or American Liver Foundation hasn't advocated or endorsed this? They are some of the most credible, intelligent and well established hepatologists and researchers in the world.
Wouldn't they have recommended hydrogen peroxide treatment as pre-treatment protocol for everyone by now? It would certainly give more credence to what a few individuals are claiming with no hard data and studies to back it up.
So where I come out is "blitzkreig" because someone may read this and think "wow", maybe I should try this stuff and pick up the phone and call the phone number so thoughtfully provider by the poster in the first post of this thread.
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That's valid and fair. I can't control what others might do or how they use the board.
People get pushed to treat everyday and I suppose that I could also harm people by posting information which could cause some people to wait to treat.
I just wanted to interject and ask; what if this worked? I don't know exactly where one draws lines. As soon as one draws them one has to some extent painted themselves into a corner. Many aspects of this forum color outside of the lines and push the thresholds; use of rescue drugs, extending treatments, preloading, surges in dosing etc.
I've got to get something done today, as interesting as this is.....
best,
Willy
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That's valid and fair. I can't control what others might do or how they use the board.
People get pushed to treat everyday and I suppose that I could also harm people by posting information which could cause some people to wait to treat.
I just wanted to interject and ask; what if this worked? I don't know exactly where one draws lines. As soon as one draws them one has to some extent painted themselves into a corner. Many aspects of this forum color outside of the lines and push the thresholds; use of rescue drugs, extending treatments, preloading, surges in dosing etc.
I've got to get something done today, as interesting as this is.....
best,
Willy
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