cramps after ivf day 5 transfer and waiting the 2ww?

[L J]

In case our 2ww group can't find us, because Nicki and LJ miss you - were here:

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Fertility/messages/3022.html

[yrrehc]

hey i did a 5dt too! i only transfered 1 five day blast and im 11weeks preggo! i had some mild cramps about 4 day after the transfer and i started doing hpt at 5 dp transfer. it was + and got darker every day! how many days past transfer are you and are you going to test with htp? i could not stand it. a girl that i met at my clinic and she did the same as me on the same days as me did not test + till 2 days before beta. let me know.

[carisa]

Yes, I just did a five day transfer. My first ivf cycle. Just got a bpf, 160 9 days post transfer, and I have been cramping off and on since about three days post transfer. I think it's normal, unless it's severe. Mine feels like my period is going to start

[L J]

Hi there we continued our chat in the forum posted above. There are several of us who are going through or just went through the 2ww. I did a hpt at 10 days post blastocyst transfer and received a BFP. I am currently almost 6 weeks.
Please join us in the other forum...

[mstrex]

Hi guys.
Just wondering, are any of you in your 40's and got pregnate useing your own eggs thru invitro?  I have been reading alot and have a friend who is 43 and Preg. I did Ivf in dec resulting in M/c with donor eggs. I was wondering if my freind can be preg at 43 why I was told I needed to use donor eggs and if maybe there is a chance I could use my own???any thoughts?

[Valeree]

Just had 3 day transfer this past Saturday and am going insane!  This 2 week wait is worst part of the whole ivf cycle.  I hope all of you are blessed with healthy babies.

[Reza1]

Just wanted to thank everyone for your answers.  Today is my 5th day after  a 5 day embryo transfer and last night I got such horrible cramps that I thought I would get my period I was so scared.  this is my 2nd iVF cycle. I feel much better now that I have read some of the answers that you have provided.

I will keep you posted

Houston, TX  

[kisbel]

HI
Reza1 today is my 5th day ET and feeling horrible cramps , they come and go , please keep us updated .. im scared i dont know what to do , i'm thinking of a hpt .

[gilou]

Hi there,
today is my 3rd day post transfer and i also have cramping on and off... I have to wait 9 more days before doing the test and am going crazy! Is cramping a pregnancy sign????

[Pxx]

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to start by saying what a huge help everyone's comments have been.  

I am 4 days post ET and have been cramping on and off.  Symptoms like my period coming.  We were told at our ET that our embryos were of poor quality.

Has anybody out there had a BFP after being told their embryos were poor.  This 2ww is killing me.

Fingers, toes and all crossed for us all

Pxx

[MirnaCaballero]

I think we are almost on the same schedule.  I had my transfer on 7/3 and I only made 3 eggs (they all fertilized) & they put all three in.  I was told that 2 were week & the cramping is so bad.  I wish I could take a pain killer.  My back feels like it is breaking.  I'm not sure how to feel...I want to be positive but I'm thinking a little negative & I'm afraid to talk about it.  If someone can get back to us to let us know if they got pregnant with weak embroys?  

[40smama]

I read all of your comments/posts and wanted to say that I too had cramps days 2-4 post transfer.  I didn't even call the re's office.  Later I found out that it was probably implantation cramps - I got pregnant and had the baby in April - GOOD LUCK!

[Len1]

The cramping is crazy for me too. I am from Africa and talking about IVF is almost a no!no!. Thanks guys for all the comments

[godbewithme]

hi
i m 5 days post 5 day transfer and today i had mild cramps . Was bit scared but after reading all these posts a bit relieved. My beta is on 18 aug ie monday so 4 more days . Lets keep the fingers crossed and be positive.

[MariaJose]

Hi everyone
It is sooooo helpful to see others are going through similar situations.  I had the transfer 5 days ago (2nd IVF) and this morning I had cramps (just like when I am about to get my period).  I have been trying to think positive all throughout, but today (on my b-day) I am feeling sad and confused.  I am trying to keep positive thoughts; The Secret makes it look easy.  I wish you all much happiness and courage.  I am not sure I have either today.

[sam3131]

I have my post day 2 and I feel like my period is gonna start any minute.I had 3 embryos transferred. I am just hoping that God will help me.

[GCA3]

Hi.  I'm going through my 3rd IVF.  First cycle was day 3, one embryo.  It didn't take, but I had no cramping.  Second cycle was day 5 transfer with 2 perfect embryos.  I just knew it would work and it did, but only produced a chemical pregnancy.  I also did not have any cramping until several weeks later when my period came.  This my 3rd cycle, I recd 3 embryos on day 3 - 3 days ago.  I've had cramping on and off the entire time.  I have no idea what to think.  It's heartbreaking for all us to be in this situation and I'm praying for everyone.  With all my heart I trust what's meant to be will be.  

Hang in there!  

[tellam]

i had my transfer 6days ago. transfered 2 blasto and the doctors office told me to come in on day 7 for pregnancy test. and now i see every one waits 2w to test. am also having mild cramps am scared to death but i pray that all is well.

[kris19]

Hello
I too had my transfer on 9/8, I had very bad pains the first few days, felt very tender inside. Now I am experiencing bad lower cramps. Almost feels like my period is about to start. I have had 6 failed iui cycles and this is our first ivf. I am not sure of it is period pains, the progesterone or what? I know I will cave and test early.

[Amy269831]

Hello, I had 2, 5 day FET tranfered on 9/7.   They said one looked healthy one not so much.  But they transfered both anyway.  I don't know what to think either.  I want to be happy and positive, but also have doubts in my mind.  On 9/10 I started to feel the cramps that everyone is is talking about, and thought that it was a good sign.  I have more hope now.  I don't know why exactly, but the two ww is killing me.  I just want to knwo.  

[DEVISTATED]

Hi,
Amy I am getting ready to start a third ivf transfer, this time I am doing a FET maybe you can answer some of my questions. Did you do birth control and lupron? Did you bleed while on Lupron? I bleed for two weeks I started to bleed (lightly) the day before I started my Lupron shots. Today I went to the RE for an ultrasound and blood work. They said everything was fine and he lowered my lupron from 10 to 5. I now am taking estrace (pill) and I go back on Wed. Is this familiar to you? I am also going to transfer two this time. I only have three frozen. What day did you freeze your embryos, we froze ours on day six. How may ivf transfers did you do. Is this your first FET? My first two transfers were fresh and both were completely different. I felt nothing the first time and I got my period the day of my blood test. My second I felt cramps and I started to have a pinkish discharge around day 4. The discharge lasted for a few days and then on day 9 I had a brown discharge along with cramps. The night before my blood test I got my period. So it's hard to compare what your feeling, cause it's all so different. Try not to stress. I also write on this same site under "cramps after IVF" just go under "discussion" and click on "cramps after IVF" Some of the girls on there I went through my last IVF with and they are now pregnant. They still keep in touch and maybe it will help you too. Good Luck and keep us posted.

[Amy269831]

Hi Devistated,
I would love to be able to help you with your questions, but I can't.  This is all relatively new to me and my situation is completely different.  My husband and I are newly married and have a blended family.  Both of us had our tubes tied in our previous relationships.  After getting together we relised we were hoping we could find a way to be blessed with children together.  Our first round of IVF was in March 07, resulting in a healthy baby boy in November 07.  When we went through our first IVF we only harvested 9 eggs, and even fewer sperm.  6 actually fertilized, 4 made it to day 3, day 3 we transfered two (one resulted in our son) and we froze the other two.  Do to the cost of everything we didn't feel right leaving our two embryo's in cryo for ever, so we did an all natural cycle this time.  No hormone support at all, no intervention from the doctors.  The only thing they did, was unfreeze, make sure they were still growing (only one was of good quality) and on day 5 transfered our last two.  I felt that if we were meant to be blessed with another baby, it will happen.  If not, we at least let my body be the last place our emby's were, not a petri dish.  
All that said, I want nothing more then to be pregnant.  I want to enjoy these days and live in the possibility of having a blood sibling for our son.  
Sometimes, I ramble, did I answer your question??  :)  

[sharonib]

I am going through my second ivf right now.  The first failed and I fear this one is going to as well.  Last night I started to get a bit of light brown/beige discharge and it has increased slightly today, but still light.  I'm supposed to get a pregnancy test on Thursday (in 2 days), but I gave in and bought one myself and it is negative.   I am so fearful that my period is coming, since this is how it often starts.  Has anyone had discharge (slightly tinted), a couple of days prior to testing and still gotten a BFP.  I've been praying so hard and I don't want this second try to be a loss.  Thanks in advance for your help and advice.

Sharon

[sam3131]

I had my first IVF failed. I got my result yesterday, but I haven't got my period yet??? I feel awful

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, I'm curious, how did your test go today. I had a pinkish discharge that turned to brownish discharge (i was so excited, I thought it was implantation) I did not have a good outcome. Negative results, this was also my second IVF. I am attempting my third transfer in a week, we are doing a frozen transfer.  A first for me. I hope all worked out for you and I hope you post your results.

[mysty2001]

FET
some places did lupron with me - I did bleed on lupron
estrace started on day one soem places - day two others - and no relationship to bleeding others
I had FET
2 transferred no preg
3 transferred miscarriage
3 transferred singleton
3 transferred no preg
2 transferred (wanted 4 but only 2 out of 8 survived the thaw) twins - 16 months old
2 transferred - miscarriage
3 transferred (wanted 4 doc agreed with 4 until he saw the quality and wanted a good # to refreeze)  29 weeks pregnant with twins

[sharonib]

Unfortunately, my test came back negative, so this is my 2nd failed ivf.  It's been really difficult for me and I'm trying not to lose hope, but I'm having a hard time convincing myself otherwise.

I have not had any frozen.  The RE won't freeze any that are less than 8 cell (best quality).  Is that true for you?  And for your success with pregnancies...was there anything that your RE did (aside from lupron, follistim/gonal f) or tested for?  I'm thinking about changing clinics, but I don't know if that will make a difference.

Sharon

[sasygirl]

My prayers go out to you today.  I understand what you are going through, we are currently on our 4th cycle and in the dreaded 2ww.  I do want to say do not lose your hope because in this infertility battle that is all we have to keep us going!!

My personal experience is that we have not had anything frozen that was not of the 8 cell quality, because I was told that anything less may not survive the thawing process.  My first 3 cycles were done on gonal f and lupron, we did get pregnant on our 3rd try, but it ended in miscarriage.  This cycle has been on follistim and our embryo's were much better quaility and able to transfer at day 5 because of their growth.  I don't know if that makes a difference but still I am hopeful.  I too wanted to change clinics after 2 tries, however I read that you take a huge risk switching doc's that won't know how your body has reacted to the past treatments and going to someone new might just cause you to repeat the previous treatment plans to see how you react.  Our third time was a charm and even though it ended sadly, we are still hopefull for this cycle because we now know that it can happen, it just takes courage to keep going and trying, and hoping the end result is a baby!!!  You will never know unless you try again!!  GOOD LUCK!!!

Hope this helps some,

Erica

[chocolate410]

Hi Everyone!

my first IVF attemp failed and I am now on day 11 of FET. Ihace had the cramps and felt like period coming...Praise God no period yet. This is like the longest two weeks wait of my life. Will test on Tuesday Sept. 23. CANT WAIT! Praying for everyone. It will surely be a miracle.

[DEVISTATED]

Hi ladies,
Sharon, so sorry for the negative result, I agree with sasygirl, I couldn't have said it better. You will never know unless you try again!!!!!! I understand that it feels like the end of the world and you feel empty inside and you think back and Maybe just Maybe it didn't work because of something you did. It's crazy and I'm sure on some level unhealthy. I've been doing this month after month for 2+ years now almost 3 and I feel like every month my heart breaks all over again. I can't stop, I need to do all I can. I am "unexplained" and I have gotten pregnant on my own (tubal) and once with IUI also ended tubal. Now I'm doing a FET next week. Hang in there and stay strong.

Misty2001, Thanks for the information I freaked when I started to bleed on lupron (day one for me for a whole week and a real period to follow) The doctor said some people just bleed on lupron, but It's better to hear it from someone else. Congrats on your twins. Wish me luck next week.

chocolat410, Good luck Tuesday is not that far away. Keep us posted. Two week wait stinks to high heaven, I know, hang in there. Did you cheat and home pregnancy test? Did you do a natural cycle and FET, or did you do meds with it? How many did they put back in? I wish you the best.

[sharonib]

Thank you all so much for your words of support.  I'm going next week for a follow-up with my RE to see what he says.  I have been considering asking him to  perform a lap to look for endometriosis-since my situation in considered "unexplained," I wonder if this could be a contributing factor.  

[sasygirl]

Hi Ladies,

I wanted to know if any of you have cheated and done the home pregnancy and gotten positive results, and if they were positive how long after transfer did you wait??  I cheated all three times and the first two were negative and my beta was negative, the third when I got pregnant was positive, but I also waited to test until day before beta.  

Do you think the results are true from home pregnancy and can be trusted and how long do you wait to test after transfer???

Chocolat410--good luck on tuesday, all my prayers and wishes go your way, because I will be in the same boat next Friday.  I hate the waiting and uncertainity.  I pray a miracle your way!!!  GOOD LUCK!!!

Devistated---have you been going through this for 3 years???  My prayers go out to you also for all your determination.  I have been so close to giving up myself, but a little hope goes a long way as you know.  GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!  Have you tried IVF at all??  I have also been unexplained, and for me it feels horrible, because I had a tubal in 2003 and had 4 healthy pregnancies prior to with my first husband (one child was lost) and the doc's can't explain why my body won't accept pregnancy now.  I feel like I caused myself all this heartache, but I am still holding out hope like you.  I will not give up!!!  GOOD LUCK AGAIN!!

Sasygirl

Sasygirl

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, thanks for the kind words. I have done IVF, two fresh cycles. This will be my third attempt, but we are doing frozen IVF this time. (less needles) Just a change in meds, but the same nerve wracking B S. As for your question. I have cheated and did a hpt last time I did IVF and I cheated on day 5 after transfer I got a negative result and that took my hopes flushing down the toilet. If you can I suggest NOT to cheat, cause even if its positive it could be false positive if you got a trigger shot. I read that it takes a day for 1,000 units to get out of your system, therefore if you had a 10,000 unit shot it would take 10 days after the trigger shot for the hgc to be out of your system. So the hpt are hard to do. Never know what to believe. Hope this helps. Talk to you soon.

[mysty2001]

I would NEVER even go to a doctor who had that much disrespect for human life.  He is flushing life down the toilet which should be illegal - that makes me ill - MY doc knows I want to try all embies no matter what the shape because I value the life - and I would not go to one who didn't - BUT that is just me

If you have none to freeze - I highly recommend adopting embryos - it saves tons if monet and you are doing a good deed and gviving a baby some parents!!!  (I would switch clinics too)

good luck

[Hopefulx]

Hi - I'm new! I am in the middle of the 2ww. I did a frozen blastocyst transfer and have to wait sixteen days to test. Friday 26th Sep will be the sixteenth day and I'm really trying to resist testing. I have really bad cramps though so I'm taking that to be a bad sign. I was successful with my first IVF attempt and although I had cramping I don't remember them being as bad as this!! In between the last IVF cycle and this one I got pregnant myself however it ended in an ectopic pregnancy and me having to get my tube removed, as if I didn't have enough fertility challenges!! Anyone got or getting really bad cramps?

[sasygirl]

Hopefulx--Welcome,

I am curious as to why they are making you wait 16 days??  I thought the norm was 10-12 day wait, or at least it has been for my past 3 cycles.  I praise you for waiting because 10days is to long for me this time.  I had cramps my last ivf cycle that were really intense, when I called the doc I was told it was probably implantation cramps, but with you have had a etopic pregnancy, and having your tube removed maybe that has contributed to some more intense cramping this time than previously?????  Have you asked your doctor what he thought??  Good Luck, my test day is Friday September the 16th also.  I will send a prayer your way.

Mysty2001--I did not mean to offend you or anyone with my earlier comment about the freezing of less then 8 cell embryos.  It is just what I was told by my doctor.  I to value life and don't understand why when they get 21 eggs only 9 survived the whole process.  I really am sorry if I offended anyone, it was just what my clinic had told me.  I guess it is always different with different doctors.  I agree with your adoption thought, if we get pregnant this try I am donating all my remaining embroyos in the hopes that it will help someone else in their struggle.  Again, sorry if I offended.

Devistated--Thanks for the advice, I am trying really hard this time not to cheat in the hopes that the outcome will be a positive one.  I hope I can because like you said it could always be the false positive and that is something I could not handle.  Frozen IVF worked for us on the third try and like you I am all about less needles.   GOOD LUCK AND PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, I was not offended on your frozen comment. I know exactly what you are talking about, my RE told us the same thing about freezing good quality embryo's. It's not that you are a bad person, it's what the doctor does. They say that if it's not a good quality embryo 8 cell than it won't survive the thawing process. I had 5 left over from my last fresh 3 day transfer and by day six only 3 made it to 8 cell perfect little embies.  How do you feel, you are half way through your 2 week wait. I go to the RE tomorrow and I'll get an idea of when we are gonna do the frozen transfer. Hopefully at the end of this week. I cant' wait. Well I gotta go, I'm decorating for Halloween early because if I do get the transfer this week or beginning of next week I won"t be able to lift anything for two weeks. (I decorate like crazy for the Holidays) I am also re-doing my bathroom, so I'll be busy this week. (keeping my mind off of the transfer) Keep me posted. Linda

[Hopefulx]

Hi Sassygirl,

Not sure why its sixteen days, thats what they told me the last time too. Today is the 7th day after the transfer and I caved and did a test this morning and it was negative. It was one of those early predictor ones. Do you think it was too early? I called the doctor this morning to see if I could take anything for the pain and they told me I could take a mild painkiller. I didn't mention doing the HPT! I am blessed with a 20 month old son from my last IVF attempt and I have to say I have been running around after him so I haven;t been able to rest much. The last time I made sure I put my feet up! I don't know that to think now, is this chance over? I have three more FE.

[sasygirl]

LINDA--Thanks so much for the reassurance, I was really scared that I offended someone with my comments of personal experience.  I am struggling with the wait b/c of miscarriage last cycle and I just want it to work so bad.  We have put so much of our finances into getting pregnant and I can't help but feel like a failure when it doesn't take, even though my husband is very supportive that we will keep going.  We had 9 frozen blasts, so if it fails we will try again in october.

I already decorated for Halloween b/c of my transfer.  I love the holidays they are so much fun and so fast paced that it helps to keep your mind off of a lot of things.  Good luck with your new cycle and I hope it all works out and we both get pregnant and then we can talk about swollen feet and how much we eat during the holidays.

Hopefulx--I am pretty sure it was to early to test, so keep your hope alive.  Even if you get a negative result your blood could still show positive.  My last HPT I did the day before blood work and it was 11 DPT and it was positive, but everyone warns not to get your hopes up b/c it could always be a false positive.  If you can wait until Friday, I would b/c all we are doing is torturing ourselves by thinking we did something wrong when that negative pops up, and in the end it could be positive just to early to test and HCG is just not in our urine yet.

  In this battle all we have is hope and you can't help but worry did I do everything right this time, or was there something else I could have done.  My 3rd cycle ended in miscarriage and I was sure it was something I had done, but I have to believe that there is a reason for everything and God doesn't give us more then we can handle.  I don't think that you have done anything wrong and WOW taking care of a 20month old is tough I know, so remain hopeful and know that you have 3 FE left so there is always hope.  GOOD LUCK!!!  Keep me posted!!    

Erica

[DEVISTATED]

Erica, It was nice to hear from you and I'm glad you feel better. I'm curious do you know anything about "the lining thickness"? I've been on Lupron since Sept 1st and I started estrace (pills) on Sept 7th. It feels like forever. I went to the RE today and he told me that my lining isn't as thick as he would like it. I asked him if this is a bad thing and he said "No, it just means we have to work harder." I think it was a stupid answer. He doubled my estrace to two pills two times a day. Oh yea I am also on the Clamera (spelling?????) patch since last Wed. I go back on Friday to see if my lining is thicker. Do you have any children? I don't . How old are you? I am 36. (and pushing 37) I wish I didn't wait so long before I wanted to have children, I guess I was about 34 and I was sitting on the deck with my boyfriend, now husband and I said I wanted to have a child. We have been together for about 10 years before we got married. He said he wanted to be married first so we got married and started right away. (I was off the pill for about 9 months before we started to see a RE) Anyway sorry for babbling, thats my story. I'll talk to you later. Linda

Hopefulx--Hi, I read that you did a hpt today and it was negative. I did one on my last IVF cycle and it was also negative. It made me instantly sick. I wish I never did it. I did my test on day 6 after a 3 day transfer. I agree with Erica, 16 days is a long way to go for a blood test. Try and hang in there until your blood test. I wouldn't waste any more money on the hpt, I personally think they suck. How do you feel otherwise. Do you have any discharge? or cramping? I wish the best for you and keep us posted.

[sasygirl]

Hey Linda

Personally, I do not know anything about the lining thickness, except that my doctor had to test mine to see if it was normal after the miscarriage.  I do know that I was on Estrace 2 pills three times daily for my last two cycles.  Talk about emotions with all that estrogen.  When your doctor said work harder, exactly what did he mean?? AS IF WE AREN'T WORKING HARD ENOUGH!!!  I AGREE STUPID ANSWER!!!!  I know that my doctor wanted my lining thick b/c he said that indicates good possiblity of better implantation results.  I  don't know if there is a set thickness though.  Sorry, I know not much help.  What is Clamera??  
To answer your question, yes I am blessed with children.  I have four beautiful babies, started at 17 with my 1st son Kody (14).  Young mother, wife, etc.  I ended the marriage b/c my second child Savanah (8 months), while in the care of my husband suffocated on our waterbed, he did not check on her for over 2 hrs before he found her deceased.  I was totally devistated. We divorced, but got back together (just never remarried) and tried for years to get pregnant, but nothing.  Then 7 years later our 3rd child Kady Grace (6) was born.  I was horribly overprotective and did not get much sleep until she was 1 year old.  Not to soon after that (18 months to be exact) I had Kaleb (5).  I immediately had a tubal not thinking of the long term consequences.  The relationship did not last and ended a year after he was born.  I meet my current husband 3 years ago and we married in 01/07, he has no children and desperately wants a child with me.  I feel so helpless b/c before I didn't seem to have any fertility issues, but now I am just an unexplained case...and can't seem to give my husband a child of his own.  I am 32 (pushing 33) and understand you realizing that one day you wanted to have kids.  I realized after remarrying that all along I really wanted to be married and happy.  Not the same exactly but kinda close.  I have accepted the fact that if it does not happen for me that I have been blessed in this lifetime and can say at least I tried.  My husband is OK with whatever b/c the kids call him daddy, but deep down I know he wants more.  That's my long drug out life story in 2 paragraphs.  I so enjoy talking with you and please keep in touch...I really needed someone other that my mom and husband to understand all the emotional ups and downs that come along with this war we are fighting.

Erica
  

[Hopefulx]

Thank you so much for both your replies. I live in Ireland and I think we do things a little different over here, I don't actually get a blood test, the procedure is I do a hpt sixteen days later unless you get your period first! I was only day 7 today after the 5 day transfer and you are so right devistated I really wish I didn't. I cried so much and felt terrible and now am clinging onto hope that it was too early. My cramps are still there not as bad though, the doc advised I could take painkillers but I didn't. Its funny before you actually start trying to have children you really don't think this lies ahead of you. My condition is endometriosis on my ovaries. Its hard when it seems to effortless for friends and family and you just wish that was you and its even harder when you manage to get pregnant but it doesn't last. Ok I am going to stop feeling sorry for us all and starting feeling hopeful, we can do it!!!

[sasygirl]

Wow--Ireland!!  That is so cool, can't say I have ever talked with anyone from Ireland, but anyway...So they don't give you a blood test???  That is really different and you have to do an HPT on day 16 unless you get your period first??  I truly commend your bravery, b/c I don't know if I could do it that way.  Do they have you on Progesterone shots at all, over here I started them on the day after my transfer.  They are painful but they keep you from starting your period (at least if things turn out negative) until you've had time to cope with the shock.  I don't know which is worse??    I guess I just don't understand the process you had to go through, if you don't mind (not to painful) explain how they do it over there.  As far as the endometriosis, can they not operate to remove some of it?  I have 2 friends that had it and they operated on them and both eventually conceived (one naturally--one ivf)?  If I am being to personal just tell me to shut up and I won't go there.  

Hey, don't feel sorry about the negative result it could have just been to early, but cry as much as you want b/c I have learned that it so helps deal with the feelings.  Keep in touch and lots of prayers your way!!!  

[DEVISTATED]

Ladies, I love this site, it really calms the nerves. Hopefulx Wow Ireland, I like Erica have never spoken to anyone in Ireland. Awesome!!!!!! That explains why you have to wait 16 days to take a test. A hpt will definitely work on day 16. Again I wish you luck. When do you test again? I also am curious how your cycle works in Ireland. "Start feeling sorry for us and start feeling hopeful" I agree "we can do it." Keep up the good thoughts. Talk to you soon.

Erica, You are so young and you have been through some hard times. You sound like a strong woman. I did some reading on the lining thickness and all says above 7 is good. I am only around 5. Not good. Something hit me earlier. I was bleeding for two weeks starting the day b-4 I started Lupron. 1st week not so much, but bleeding, 2nd week full blown period. I asked the doctor what was up and they told me that it just meant my lining was very thin. I was also told that some people just bleed on Lupron. No worries. Wrong, I worried every day and prayed every night that it was gonna be OK. Now it makes sense to me. My lining was so thin it's just taking longer to get thicker. I've never had any problems with my lining.
So you have a 17 year old. Whats that like? I am close to my brothers and sisters, there are 5 of us. They all have children and my little sis is now pregnant with her first. Kind of weird that I'm the only one out of 5 that is having trouble having children. My sisters kids are my heart. (they all are, but they need me more, my sister is a single parent) My nephew is 16 going to turn 17 and I put him through driving school. He can drive on his own on Mischief Night, His birthday. Her middle child is 13 and he IS my heart. He can get anything he wants from me. Then she has a daughter 11. She is attached to my sisters butt. HA HA. My husband and I are both in Law Enforcement and so is my little brother. I am from New Jersey and I have two dogs that I treat like kids. My mother passed away in 1999 and one of my dogs Pebbles was hers, I bought her for my mom when I was in the Training Academy in 97. Sonny is my boy and we bought him to keep Pebbs company. Now they are best friends forever. That's my life story.

[sasygirl]

Linda-Well actually my oldest is 14 sorry I had him when I was only 17.  He doesn't live with us, b/c when he turned 13 he was able to chose who he wanted to live with (wonderful state of Georgia law), so he went to live with his dad, who lives with his parents.  Kody is the oldest and we use to be close until the break up of his father and mines relationship and then his father made sure he got at least one of his kids on his side (nasty seperation).  I don't fight dirty, but they do and I just wanted my son to be happy, and he is happy where he is and he comes home every other weekend.  My two little ones keep me busy they both play ball, (we had back to back games tonight) and they are my life much like your nieces and nephews are to you.  Sounds like you love them all so very much and they seem very lucky to have someone like you in their lives.  I would have killed to have a sister like you when I was a single mom.  I have 2 brothers one older one younger, and they have their own families, all girls so all nieces for me.  Good luck to your little sis, and it will happen for us, I just know that it will.  
WOW Law Enforcement, that must be so exciting, to tell you the truth I had only the mental health part of my police application then off to the Academy, when my daughter died and I would have been right there with you.  Guardian Angel your way for protection of you and your family each day you go out for all of us!!  I am so sorry to hear about your mom, I can honestly say I don't know how you do it, if it weren't for my mom I don't know what I would do, but you have her baby to love you.  I hear you about the dogs.  I have three--two I got when I miscarried, it helped to ease the pain.  Boy now I would love to go back and rethink b/c they both just absolutely adore my husband-hee hee!!  They are French Bulldogs and such clowns (Casper and Milly-bro and sis) My one little dog Ginger is still just my baby, she knows when I am sad and she is always there.  Amazing how animals just know when you need them.  I am from way down south in Georgia and I will honestly say I am a BIG FAT REDNECK!!  
As far as the lining thing, well now wonder your lining is so thin, you bleed like a stuck pig on Lupron (don't we just love the drugs).  I have to say I must have been lucky b/c I did not bleed on Lupron.  But sounds like you are well on your way to a healthy full lining ready for implantation, so don't get discouraged.  I was so excited to hear back from you, and I to just love this site b/c like you said STRESS RELIEF!!!

[Hopefulx]

Hello Ladies,

It was good to hear from you both. I laughed when I read where you had said the doctor said no worries, if it was only that simple!! When they transfered my blastocyst on the 15th Sep they told me it was a 'little' fragmented but not to worry!!! Ha ha, of course that was all I could think about so straight home to internet where I spent hours looking up everything on fragmentation. Ok the procedure over here for me was day 1 I started taking 4 prognynova tablets every evening (they are HRT). Day 12 get lining checked, once ok thaw FE's. At this point I also had to start using progesterone gel every morning and evening aswell as taking my four tabs. I had three thawed and one turned into blastocyst. Day 17 transfer was done. Continue taking 4 tabs each evening & gel morning and evening. So now I am day 8 after the transfer. By my accounts my period would be due this Friday although they told me not to test until day 16 tomorrow week!!!  I guess they imagine if I don't get my period by then I could be pregnant. On my first IVF attempt I had to get shots too which I remember as being painful. I have to say with FE cycle its a lot less invasive! I hope I didn't confuse you both but that is pretty much how it works in Ireland for a frozen cycle. I must say I much prefer your way, at least with a blood test you would know sooner. The HPT I did on Monday comes in a twin box so I am really thinking of doing the second one in the morning. I am still getting cramps though. My endometriosis was treated however they said it can still cause unexplained infertility. I am so sorry but I am not sure at what stage of the process you are both at, I did look back over everything written but am still a little unsure. thanks!

[sasygirl]

Hopefulx--it was so great to hear from you.  I was worried that you could have fallen into the pit of despair after Mondays results.  Glad to see that your head is up high and you are still with us on this journey.  Well to answer you about my personal ivf cycle, this go round which is number 4, I had to start all over with a fresh one.  I took the follistim pen shot once daily in pm for several days and then I started Ganirelex shots in am for 2 weeks until they harvested 21 eggs, but only 12 survived fertilization.  All my embies but one made it to blastocyst this time and they put two in and froze 9.  One was to weak and discarded.  They transfered last Wednesday and they will draw blood this Friday the 26th to see if I am pregnant. I have been on progesterone shots since day after egg retrieval.  My last frozen cycle started with Lupron shots in am, Estrace tablets 2 three times daily, then transfer, then progesterone shots until blood test two weeks after transfer.  TO MANY FREAKING SHOTS!!!  I feel like a pin cushion these days, my butt is swollen on both sides from the shots and I pratically sleep with my heating pad.  I am so ready for Friday, but not really b/c I am so very scared it did not take this time.  I just have a gut feeling, and today I had a horrible headache that I could not get rid of, which is the kind I usually get right before my period.  I am so stressed and down.  I don't blame you if you want to test again tomorrow, but please don't get down if they are not what you expected.  Just hold your head up high and continue to hope until Friday.  I hope to hear from you again soon and GOOD LUCK if you test in the am.  PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!!

Linda--How are you doing today??  I guessed you were working today, and I was wondering how you were feeling.  When do you retest the lining, this week??  Have they said anything about a possible transfer day??  I am so hopeful that your doctors appt will go great, and you will have fattened up the lining and will be transfering soon!!!  Then we can comfort you on your 2ww, like you have us.  A chat will just be a click away.  

I have to say today has been really tough for me.  Like I said to hopefulx, I had a horrible headache that I could not shake today, and it is the kind I get right before my period starts.  I have had a discouraging feeling that it did not take this time and I am afraid of the results...I have tried to remain strong, but like you know each cycle breaks me down a little more then the last time.  Last time was such a blow to get pregnant and then miscarry after all the hard work.  I just know that I am feeling anxiety about the up and coming test day, but I can honestly say that today I have just broke down and cried, wondering why it has to be so hard???  I just needed to vent a little and hope that I did not discourage you in the process.  Hope this note finds you in good spirits and I will chat with you soon!!!!

[DEVISTATED]

Hi Ladies,
Hopefulx Your cycles are a little different than ours. Maybe the medications are called something different????? (but mean the same thing) IVF should be the same no matter where you live. I am currently on a FET cycle, I started a Lupron shot on Sept. 1 and I started to take a pill (estrace) on Sept. 7th. Last Wed. I put a patch on my butt (estrogen patch called clamera) I go to the RE every 5 days to monitor my lining. I go back Friday to see if my lining is thick enough to transfer on Monday---through Wednesday. Not sure right now what day. This is my third IVF attempt (1st frozen attempt) I only have 3 frozen embies. All frozen on day 6. (8 cells) So this leaves me approximately 3 weeks behind you guys. I pray that we all have the same outcome. Baby Baby Baby (or BABIES) Your gonna test again in the morning? I don't blame you, if I had a hpt just sitting there staring at me, I would do it to. Go for It. Let us know what the outcome is. Good Luck. Linda

Sasygirl, Hello our FREAKING out friend. Listen, try to put an ice pack on your head for the headaches. I got them really bad last IVF and I mean like MIGRAINE type headaches, and I was afraid to take something cause I thought I might be prego. Anyway I have an ice pack that is soft and it molds to the shape of my head. I put it on my forehead and on the back of my head above my neck. It numbs your head and the headache goes away. (of course you should try to fall asleep with it) I really feel ya with the anxiety to. It is terrible and there is nothing that can take that away. Try to think good thoughts, not discouraged thoughts. Ya know the progesterone could be giving you the headaches also, it doesn't necessarily mean your period is coming. I did work today and I'm off on Friday, that's when my next appt. is. As far as how I'm feeling I'm glad you asked. I feel like a big fat steroid pimple face, large, huge, puffy, emotional, crazy, dizzy, sick to my stomach girl. I woke up that way this morning, I guess when the doc increased my meds it made me feel like this. I never get pimples and today you could play connect the dots on my face. (I mean never get pimples, No lie) Well I hope I made you smile. Don't be sad. Hang in there and I'll talk to you soon.

[sasygirl]

Linda--you made me laugh so hard right then, b/c funny you should say something about pimples.....i have been playing connect the dots since last friday.  DARN HORMONES SUCK!!!!  I have gained 15 additional pounds I really didn't need before the holidays and on top of that my butt is swollen bigger b/c of shots....the fertility life is such high!!!  Thanks so much for the laugh, and I am really glad to know that I am not the only one feeling so lovely these days!!!  Feel better!!

Erica

[louielou123]

Hi girls,

I am six days post transfer, i did a test on the fifth day and it was negative.  I have had bad cramping on and off since, feel very negative and emptional.   I am every day looking for symptoms that its taken and none yet.

Can anyone help.

Louise

[Hopefulx]

Erica, don't feel bad about the headaches as devistated said it could be the meds. On my first IVF attempt I had terrible headaches and I turned out to be pregnant!! I know how you feel though we tend to obsess about every little thing but sure who can blame us? I am saying big prayers for you for Friday, I really really am. For me I may not know for definite on Friday as I may not get my period and as I was told to test next Wed I may have to wait till then to get another negative! I did the second one this morning and still the same. I want to call the clinic and ask how soon I could do another FE cycle (have 3 left) but they will think I'm crazy haven't even finished this cycle yet!! Does you know how long you should wait in between? At the moment I am trying to clean my house (on vacation from work) but can't concentrate on anything and am having little crying outbursts. Wouldn't it be great if they could put us asleep for the 2ww and then wake us with a yes or no! Anyway you hang in there, we are with you all the way.                                              Devistated, Friday is your day too and I will be praying that you will be ready for your transfer. Its funny I think I would love to be at that stage so I can hope again, I really feel this chance is over for me. Buy hey there will be more 'chances'!!  I completely empathise with you on how you look/feel. I left for my vacation looking slimish with clear skin and am going back to work looking fat and spotty!! I don't fit into any of my clothes, the irony is I'm sure people will think I'm pregnant! please keep in touch. This really helps!                                                                                                                                                                          Lou, I really think it was way too early to do a test and I'm sure the other girls will agree with me. It might not have yet even implanted and when it does implant it takes another few days for your body to start secreting the HCG hormone. I too am having bad cramping and I did have it too although honestly not as bad on my first IVF attempt and that was successful. I looked up cramping in early pregnancy and in some of the forums some girls said the cramping was so bad they were taking painkillers thinking their period was coming and when it didn't arrive they did pregnancy tests and they were positive! Also the meds might be causing the cramps.  The 2ww is horrendous, I know exactly how you are feeling. Hang in there! Is this your first IVF attempt?                                                                      

[Hopefulx]

Update! I just called the clinic and they advised me that I won't get my period until I stop taking my meds so I do have to wait until sixteen days after the transfer to carry out HPT and if negative then stop taking meds, I should get withdrawal bleed in about a week. Sixteen days is not until next Wednesday!!!  I told her I did HPT today and she said it was too early. I am day 9 post transfer. She told me that they had someone who did a HPT on day 12 and it was negative so she stopped taking her meds and it turned out she was pregnant. I don't know what to think except this is torture! As I did blast transfer should I not know earlier as it was two days more developed than usual ET? Ok I need to start thinking about something else.. as if!

[sasygirl]

Hey Welcome,

I know how you feel when you say that you are so negative and emotional.  We all know how you feel.  I am currently in the 2ww and will test on Friday.  Question for you, did you do a  5 day blast transfer or 3 day?  I believe that you probably tested to early and the cramps you are feeling could be what they call implantation cramping.  I can't say for sure but they say they feel like you are fixing to start your period kind of cramps.  I don't know if that is what you are having, but they can occur anywhere from 4 days post transfer on.  Our minds play such cruel tricks on us while we are waiting this out, meaning that you are probably thinking that it might not have worked because of the negative HPT and now the cramping.  Truth is we won't know until we have the blood test done and the doctor confirms the results.  As a friend told me this week, if you can stand to wait it out, do it b/c if you retest on an HPT and it is negative you will be believing that it didn't work, when in fact it might just be to early to know for sure.  Keep your head up and think hopeful thoughts, b/c right now that is all we can do.  GOOD LUCK AND PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!!  Keep writing b/c it is a wonderful stress relief to talk to others that are struggling just like you.  Hope to hear from you soon, and stop worrying!!!!

Sasygirl

[sasygirl]

Hey,

How are you feeling???  Sounds like you are going crazy just like me.  I was so happy to hear from you again, was worried about you retesting this morning.  REMEMBER CRYING IS GOOD!!!  You are sounding so negative though which is not good...listen at me b/c I was crying the negatives yesterday.  HEE, HEE, we are just emotional wrecks.  I don't think you are crazy wondering when you can restart, I think you have it in your head that it didn't take and we can't think that b/c hope is all we have!!!  But to answer your question, over here I had to wait until I had a period, and then when I got my next period I started my next round of drugs for a frozen cycle.  I don't know if that is how they do it over there.  I actually was wondering the same as you about doing a blast transfer.  I feel like we should be a couple days ahead of the game, but we also have to remember that our bodies are all different and we just don't know when implantation happens and when HCG starts showing up in our urine.  You are suppose to be on vacation young lady, so why don't you plan a day trip of sorts with you 20month old for tomorrow and that will help keep you mind off of everything, (if only for the day).  Today I took in a movie with a friend and it really helped, along with chatting with you guys, I am feeling encouraged by our conversations b/c I know that I am no longer alone in this battle.  

STOP BEING NEGATIVE, think baby thoughts for all of us and surely we will all be blessed in the end!!!!  Oh also, if you like to read, which I have become obsessed with recently, I am reading a wonderful series on vigilante women that is funny and vindicating for women, it will make you LOL!!  Reading has helped me keep my mind off things to some degree.  PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!!

Erica

[sasygirl]

Hey, hope your day today was better then yesterday.  I hope you are feeling better also.  I just wanted to drop you a line to say that I was thinking about you and hope that the meds are not messing with you to badly today.  Thanks for the support yesterday, and the laugh, I so needed it.  Hope all is well on your front and will chat with you later...I am in the middle of a great book series that has me hooked so bad I am on the 5th both out of 9.  Prayers your way!!!  

[sasygirl]

Oh my god, I just got invited to a baby shower for a friend, which is being given by my sister-in-law.  My mom thinks I should go with her, I think it might be to hard.  WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???  What would you do???  I don't know if I am ready to go through that yet???  ADVICE NEEDED!!!

Erica

[DEVISTATED]

Erica, I think you should go to the baby shower and rub all over the pregnant girl. Ha Ha, No really if it's to hard for you politely decline the invitation. I wouldn't be in the mood to do a baby shower at this time either. I don't think it's rude or anything, it's just you should do whatever you feel you can handle. I feel better today, I think its the first day when I change the patch I think it's at its strongest and it makes me feel crappy, I change it every 5 days. I still feel fat and ugly and I swear today I had the worst hair day in my life. Prayers back at ya!!!!!

Hopefulx, No wonder why your freaking out. You want to know on Friday and if it's negative you should try again on Wednesday? (if you don't get a period) Tons of extra stress, I couldn't do it. Thank god we do blood tests over here. Your doctor never does a blood test? Not even when a urine test comes up positive? I can tell you that I did a fresh transfer in July and tested August 18 (negative) Got my period on August 18th and I started my Frozen cycle on September 1st. (meds) I started the ultrasounds and blood work on September 12th. So over here we can start a frozen cycle right away, after your  period. I hope that I explained it right. Bottom line to answer your question you only should have to wait 1 period before you do the next cycle. I also wanted to tell you that I took a 2 week vacation on my last transfer and I regretted it. I will never do it again. I drove myself crazy and I didn't want to do anything but rest (thinking it would work if I rested for two weeks.) All I did was google everything I felt and obsessed on this computer about IVF. 24 hrs a day for two weeks. Horrible time. So I personally do not recommend any vacation time during this 2ww. (except the transfer day and two days after) Hope you feel better, I also read a lot on cramps after IVF and It boils down to everyone is different, you wont know for sure what it means. CRAZY I know but what can we do?  Hang in there and I will cross everything I can for you guys on Friday. Promise.

Louielou123, Hello, Glad you wrote. I did a hpt on day 6 also after my last transfer and it was negative, I wish I never did it, cause right away I was sick to my stomach. I was negative for the rest of the time. It is important for you to realize that it's OK to be negative and the results depend on so much. Did you do a "trigger shot"? I also can tell you that I was pregnant two times before (both ended tubal) and I did hpt and they said negative. I only showed positive on a blood test. Weird, Huh. and yet I still do hpt every time I do IVF. When is your test? On my last transfer I had a pinkish discharge starting on around day 4 and lasting up until day 10 then it turned brownish discharge then a full blown period. At first I thought it was implantation bleeding. I have done fresh IVF twice and both times were completely different. I wish I had answers for you but for now all we can do is compare the "horror" stories with each other. Good Luck and keep in touch.

[Hopefulx]

Hi Girls,
It is really good to hear from you both. I tried to logon last night and for some reason the PC wouldn't turn on well I was like a lunatic trying to get it going and finally had to give it up. This morning (its 10am) it worked!! Even my own PC was against me yesterday! I would be lost without you guys at the moment. After reading your replies I don't feel so alone in this stupid process.  Devistated you are so right I would NEVER do this on vacation again, I thought it would be easier as I could get more rest etc and all I have had time to do is stress!! I really wish they did blood tests here, I don't known why they don't. I'm going to ask the next time I visit the clinic. And yes google and I are very good friends at the moment!
Erica, I am taking your advice and my husband and I are going to a movie today, a funny! I also need to buy new some new work clothes to disguise my swollen stomach before people starting asking the inevitable. Erica about the baby shower I'm not sure what you should do. Just after I had a tubal my husbands niece was being christened and I debated on going, I did it in the end and it was fine. However is saying that to be honest I didn't see much of the baby and we weren't opening presents with loads of baby stuff in them! It might be too hard right now for you. I was due to have a friend over for lunch this Saturday and cancelled as I'm really not up to much company right now and she doesn't know that I'm doing IVF. I got a text yesterday from a friend of mine saying her sister was pregnant and even that hurt!! I'm thinking really good thoughts for you though and I am hoping and praying that tomorrow I am going to hear some great news from you. I will pray hard tonight for you.  I think I am going to re-test on Sat. As they told me in the clinic I am not going to get my period until I stop my meds so I will have to wait until next Wed and just keep testing. Devistated I am also praying that you are going to be really think tomorrow so you can start your 2ww soon and we'll be with you all the way!!

[sam3131]

I wonder people going through 2nd or 3rd IVF fresh cycles, how much it will cost as hardly any insurance cover IVF. Any comments please...

[sasygirl]

First of all WELCOME!

If you are currently looking into the ivf process, please keep in touch on this forum, b/c we all love talking about our different experiences and it really helps with the emotional stress.  I hope the following helps some, but remember it is only my personal experience.

My personal experience with the cost of a fresh cycle is as follows:
1st cycle deposit of 10,250.00 (no meds covered)
1st cycle meds were 4500.00
frozen cycles were deposits of 3400.00
meds costing 1000.00

My second fresh cycle was the same, and I am from Georgia.  I think it is different in different areas, but the costs are high, but the outcome is worth it, if the end result is a baby!!!  GOOD LUCK!!  Hope to hear from you soon!!

Sasygirl

[sasygirl]

Hey,  So glad to hear from you too!!  I am also so glad you are taking in a movie today with your husband, laughter is a good therapy.  I took in a funny yesterday and I was amazed to see that I really didn't ponder on things at all.  It was such a stress relief.  I have to admit today I slept until 12.00 noon.  I don't remember the last time I did that, probably when I was a teenager.  I guess I didn't realize how tired I was.  I was embarrassed when my husband called and said your still in the bed, ha, ha, ha!!!  Shopping for new clothes, (no matter the reason) is always fun also. I bought some new lounging clothes, b/c I am so bloated and areas that weren't so curvy, are now very, very curvy and makes for a tight fit.  I have to admit, I am a stay at home mom and comend you guys for working through the process.  I am going crazy since I quit my job 2 years ago.  I have thought about taking a part time job, but that is so hard with kids, b/c here retail is all that is hiring for the holidays, and with kids that is so hard not to mention all the doctors appt's lately.  I think that if this round doesn't take I will be taking a break until after the holidays b/c they are stressful enough.  I did a cycle last year during the holidays and I was a horrible wreck.  What do you think???  I want it so bad and tomorrow's news can't come quick enough.  I know you all know how I feel, and I am hoping and praying for all of us!!!  Thank you for the advice about the baby shower,  I thought about it and I think it might just be to difficult right now, b/c I would be wishing it was me, and that would not be fair to her.  Hope your movie date was a good one, and look forward to hearing from you!!!  PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!!

[sasygirl]

By the way I had no insurance coverage, b/c of having a tubal many years ago.

Sasygirl

[Jlaney55]

Ladies I am going crazy as I'm sure most of you have. Today is 9 days after my transfer of 2 blasts. Took an HPT this a.m. and got a BFN. My blood test is tomorrow, but shouldn't I have at least had a faint line today? I have to get on with my day. Been on the computer all day looking to see if anyone has had a BFN  and go on to have positive blood results. I'm trying to stay positive but am so nervous!

[DEVISTATED]

sasygirl---Hi, I'm so excited that Friday is almost here. What time is your appointment? When do you usually get the results? Are you freaking out? Good call on the baby shower, but it needed to be YOUR call. I don't remember if I told you that my lil sis is pregnant and when she told me I cried. I don't know how to explain it or what the right word is but I was sad. (only for a minute, then I had no choice but to get over it) I am off work tomorrow so if you need to chat I'm here, I'll check in every chance I get. I go to the docs at 10am. Everything crossed, Linda

Sam3131---Hi, I'm glad you joined this site. I can't give you specifics but I think IVF's are about 10,000.00 here in NJ. At my job my insurance covers it. (all of it) New Jersey passed a law (act) called The Family Builders Act a few years back and it means that if you work for an employer that employs 300 people (I think 300) then insurance has to cover infertility. BUT they only do 4 to 6 transfers per lifetime (IVF). IUI's are unlimited, So I've been a busy bee for the past 3 years, 9 IUI's, two fresh IVF and now I'm in my 1st frozen IVF. (not to mention the **** you do before you graduate to IUI's)

Jlaney55- Hi, Welcome. Today is a very scary time for you, we all know, I really don't know what to say to you. You are probably gonna scream the next time someone tells you to stay positive. Right? Ok, hpt they are the wost thing put on this earth. (when your going through a 2ww) I can only speak for myself, I was pregnant twice before (both ended tubal) and before I did a blood test and got a positive, I did a hpt and both times they were negative. So I don't know what to say about them. I stopped taking them and wasting my money. My last IVF I did break on day 6 post transfer and it was negative, so I messed with my own mind and it made everything worse. I kind of wished that I had a false positive, cause I thought it would at least be positive due to the "trigger shot". Did you have a "trigger shot"? Don't be nervous, Keep us posted. and feel free to ask away......Good Luck.

Hopefulx--Hi, Good call on the funny movie. What did you see? Are you gonna test Tomorrow? (hpt) I wanted to ask you, what kind of meds are you on that if you stop you are supposed to get a period? Just curious. Talk to you later........


Wish me luck tomorrow, I need a big fat lining.

[Jlaney55]

Thanks for just talking to me. I've been sad all day and as I write this I'm crying for the first time all day. I thought I'd be okay but I'm going to be really upset if I'm not pregnant. This has been such a grueling process. It's so nice to be able to read all of your personal experiences as no one I know truly understands how much of a roller coaster this has been. My blood test is first thing in the a.m. but they probably will not call me until the evening. This is my first round of IVF. I took the First Response this a.m. and got a no. I hope the blood test has a different result! :)

[Jlaney55]

and yes I had the Lupron trigger shot.

[sasygirl]

devistated--hey lady who is gonna have the big fat lining in the morning, how are you.  I am sorry I am just now getting around to chatting.  I have been at the ball park since 5:30, my daughter had a game.  I just know that tomorrow you are gonna get great news and then you are going to get your transfer date and then you are gonna be freaking again b/c of the 2ww.  God, I am so glad we all have each other to talk to.  My appointment is 9:30, but they usually don't call with results until 2pm and after.  What a horrible wait it will be.  I am trying to be confident, but the negative thoughts are getting to me.  I am debating on letting them leave the result on my voicemail, b/c everytime I answer and it is bad news, they go through the song and dance of stop taking your meds, make a follow-up appt, and we are so so sorry.  Bull**** on that call, I don't think I want to answer.  Well anyway, you did tell me your lil sis is pregnant, how is she doing, I know that must have been so hard on you, but it is going to happen for us, I just know it will.  Well, Greys Anatomy is coming on and I am so excited, but please keep in touch with me tomorrow, I will be around and going crazy just like you.  GOOD LUCK, GOOD LUCK, GOOD LUCK AND LOTS OF PRAYERS!!!!!

Jlaney55--Welcome, we are all in the same boat, waiting and wondering.  I go for my blood test in the morning also.  I also did a 5 day blast transfer and have been a nervous wreck.  I totally agree with Devistated, HPT's SUCK!!  You never know what to believe and right now, with what we are going through, a negative result only makes things that much more complicated.  With the help of Devistated she suggested me not taking one, and although it has beeen very very tempting, I think that if it were negative, it would have been a whole lot worse.  I have been having negative feelings about it not taking this time (my 4th cycle), but chatting with the girls has helped so much.  Please stay in touch, even after tomorrow, b/c we are starting to build a little family and we can all cry together, hope together, and laugh together.  I also noticed that you said you have been crying, and my personal motto on that is CRYING IS GOOD!! It helps in it's own little way.  GOOD LUCK, GOOD LUCK AND PRAYERS!!  Hope to hear from you tomorrow!!!  

[Jlaney55]

SasyirlI will be thinking of you as I go in this morning. Hoping for a positive result for both of us! I took another of those tests this a.m.--- I was just hoping but still negative. I'm still surprisingly optimistic this morning. Thank you for your comments. My hubby and I read them together. Where do you ladies live? And what clinic do you go to? I'm in California--- Oxnard and go to Southern Reproductive. My clinic is closed (at least no blood draw) today so I have to go to the hospital and draw there. They never call until after 6 so.... I will update you later. Good luck sasygirl and please let me know! :)

[Jlaney55]

Ladies! I can't even get up to go get my blood test! What is wrong with me? I almost don't want to know. I want to at least be able to wait and hope. I'm terrified of the results. How will I move forward if the results are not what I want to hear???? I know I have to do it. I'm just so reluctant! There is still a part of me that feels like there is now way that I'm not pregnant. That would be too unfair... and yet life is never fair............... I'm going to go.

[DEVISTATED]

Hi guys, this will be short. I don't want to ruin anyone's mood. I just got back from the docs and my lining is getting THINNER. I don't know what do,but I'm feeling very emotionally drained. I feel like I have nothing left in me. He told me to take the estrace PILL vaginally. What's that all about??????? I go back Monday and if it doesn't thicken up this cycle will be cancelled. To top it all off I have a light period, and he said that should NOT be happening. Get this he asked me if I MISSED any of my meds. Like it's my fault. Sorry for being a downer. I hope all is well with you guys. I will be looking for all of your GOOD news later. Linda

[sam3131]

Thanks for the answer. I live in CA and I paid almost similar amount for my first IVF. I got eight embryo, they transferred 3 on 3rd day. Test came negative. None of those 5 embryo survived to freeze. It is really terrible, I don't know what to do

[sasygirl]

jlaney--Have courage, it will be O.K.  I am glad that you decided to go, no matter the result you did not let the fear back you down.  I live in Georgia and go to a clinic called RBA and the doc is a friend of the family, a little wierd but there is nothing to hide anymore, he's seen it all!! Ha, Ha!!!  I will be waiting to hear from you on your results.  GOOD LUCK, GOOD LUCK!

sam3131--I wanted to let you know that I participated in a case study through my clinic and they covered all the meds.  It was a huge help.  I don't know your age, but there are some case studies you might could participate in, just ask and see if your clinic offers any.  It is worth a shot--momma always said nothing ventured, nothing gained.  Hope that helps a little.  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH!!!!

Devistated---I am so sorry for your news, but I know that you don't need another sorry.  Are you comfortable with your doctor, b/c he sounds like a real ******* to me.  Did he think maybe the Lupron had an adverse effect or did he offer any advice other then "DID YOU MISS YOUR MEDS???  You are much better of a person then me, b/c I would have told him where to go, how to get there and offered a one way ticket.  I myself got bad news, it was a big fat no go for me.  I am O.K. with it, and have decided to take a break for a while, and am talking to my husband tonight about just donating the rest of the embryos.  The doctor can't explain and I am tired of needles and bad news, and unexplained answers.  I feel like you, I just don't have anything left.  I hate that I cannot give my husband his hearts desire, but he also has to understand that I have no heart left, it has been broken so many times and I just can't afford another heartbreak.  I am hopeful that someone else will benefit from my embryos, and I wish you were closer, not that you would want them, but I would offer if it would help you in your journey.  I don't want to feel shelfish, I have kids and I would love to know that I helped someone else experience it, someone like you Linda.  I hope your news is better on Monday and I will be praying for you tonight and all weekend.  I am so sorry to be a downer to, but I am going to have a huge pity party now and it involves a big bottle of wine and some sappy love movies......GOOD LUCK, AND YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS!!!!

ERICA

[Jlaney55]

Erica. Wow. what to write ??? I know there are no words to comfort you. You will be in my thoughts. How many embryos did you put in this time? How many do you have left? How many other children do you have and how old? I wish I could enjoy that bottle of wine with you. I think we all could use a drink! You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Devistated---- I have been taking the estrace vaginally once a day since before the transfer. I'm with sasygirl though, if you're not 100 % happy with your doctor is it possible to find a new one? When do you go back? My goodness this is all so hard. I barely know you and yet I'm praying for you. Please let us know how it goes.

Sam3131-- I also participated in a case study and it paid for some (not all) of my meds. Also it paid for the PGD.

[sasygirl]

Good to hear from you.  I had 2 blasts transfered, one that was already hatching out, I was told again that my chances were so good, but again the doc can't explain why they won't implant.  I have had 4 children with my first husband.  Kody is 14, Kady Grace is 6 and Kaleb is 5, and then their is my little angel Savanah who went to heaven at 8 months of age.  She suffocated on a waterbed in 1996.  I am remarried and was desperate to have a child with my husband now who has none, but I guess it is not written in the cards for us.  I am so blessed to have what I have and that is how I am looking at it from here on out.  I cannot be selfish to think that I haven't had a chance, like a lot of other women.  I have and that is what will help me get through.  I just thought there could be more b/c we have so much love to offer, but I know that the heartache is just to much to take anymore.  It's the holiday season, my daughter died 2wks before Thanksgiving, so they are always tough, so no reason to keep adding to my heartache.  I really am wishing the best for you and everyone else who is still going through their cycles.  I wish we could all join up for a bottle of wine to, it would be a time for laughter, tears, and prayers.  GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND PRAYERS BE WITH YOU!!!  Thanks so much for chatting back, it is always comforting to know there is someone there!!

Erica

[sam3131]

Thanks again for your comments. I am 37 years old. What is usually age for case study?

[sasygirl]

I forgot to tell you that I have 9 blasts left, but I am 95% sure that I will be donating them to help aide someone who has a healthy chance of getting pregnant.  They are supposedly beautiful embryo's.  

Erica

[sasygirl]

It varies, so just ask your clinic if you would be a candidate.  I am sure they can help, at least a little help is better then none.  

Erica

[Hopefulx]

Erica I am really really sorry and know that horrible feeling you have right now. I am sorry I am only writing now my PC was down again and I have been thinking about you all day long. I did a HPT test last night and another negative. I still have to wait until Wed for a definite but I think something would have showed by now and the cramps I am having are really bad. I also had some light brow discharge today. The process is completely draining. I will write again next Wed to let you know the end result although I know in my heart of hearts what it is. I agree with you and Linda If I ever do this again I will NEVER take a HPT until day sixteen as its like being told no over and over again. God we all deserve a break. You are in my prayers.


Linda, That really ***** what you had to go through today and the cheek of that doctor. I am taking progesterone vaginally every morning and evening and I also take 4 tablets of prognynova every evening, its a HRT replacement. As I was saying to Erica my cramps are too bad for me to think I could be and also surely at this stage some HCG would have shown up. You have every right to be down, there are so many hurdles we have to go through to get there, Monday could be your day, I am hoping and praying it is. We're all not having much luck at the moment. I am sorry I didn't get to wish you good luck this morning but my PC was down, you and Erica have been in my thoughts all day. I am so glad to have had you both to talk to. My husband is really good but last night I think he had enough of all this too. I don't know whether to take a HPT in the morning or just wait until Wed. Tomorrow is day 12 for me. Please let me know how get on on Monday. I am going to say lots of prayers, you so deserve this.
Jlaney - Hi this is the first time we have spoken, i am day 11 after a blast transfer and have done three HPT all -. I live in Ireland so the process is a bit different, I have to wait until day 16 next wed and do a HPT. If I get a - to stop me meds and I should get what they call a withdrawal bleed. Please let me know your results today. I am wishing you every little bit of luck there is, we all need to hear some good news!

Sandy x

[Jlaney55]

Just wanted to tell you all I got a big fat no about 10 minutes ago. The doctor said she was surprised---- right before my transfer she argued with me to only put in one embryo because she said i was young. my embryos were good and I had previous pregnancies. She told me that if I put in two I would probably get two.I put in two anyway and, Well I got none. And I only have two embryos left. I've heard you lose 50% in the thawing..... She said she needs to test me for antibodies or something. I haven't read any posts because I'm crying so hard I can barely see what I'm typing. I promise I will log on sometime this weekend. Right now I want to curl up in a ball and forget the world............

[sasygirl]

devistated--Treatment of thin endometrium
To improve uterine blood flow which may boost endometrial development, low-dose aspirin (Weckstein et al., 1997) and vaginal sildenafil (Sher and Fisch, 2002) were suggested in cases of RIF with thin endometrium. Many freeze all embryos when the endometrium is less than 7 mm and transfer them after stimulation with high-dose estrogens. Vaginal administration of micronized estradiol to maximize estrogenic effect (Tourgeman et al., 2001) or antifibrotic treatment with pentoxifylline and high-dose vitamin E (Ledee-Bataille et al., 2002) has been shown to increase PR in cases with a thin endometrium.   Hey, this article I found in the oxford journals and I tought about you, don't know if it helps but it looked interesting.  I haven't heard from you and just wanted to let you know you are in my thoughts....

Jlaney55---I am so sorry for your no result!!  I am right there with you and I know there is nothing I can say to make it any better, but I am thinking about you and hoping you the best right now.  I have been having my pity party and thinking the same as you, just curl up, cry, forget the world, cry some more and then some more crying.  I know how you feel and just wanted to let you know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.  I hope to talk to you this weekend!!  Prayers!!!

Hopefulx--thank you so much for the thoughts.  I have thought about you today, and was wondering how you have been doing.  Hopefully the brown discharge is just implantation bleeding and you are well on your way to being pregnant.  I wish you the best and will chat with you soon!!  Prayers for you!!!

[Hopefulx]

Hi Girls,

Firstly Jlaney, I am so sorry, it's so awful right now, crying is a good release. Have been doing a lot of it myself lately. Erica I don't think it is implantation as I think its too late it should have implanted by now. I chickened out of doing a HPT this morning and think I'll just leave it till Wed, I can't stand to read the predictor again. I'll keep you posted. Linda I hope you are doing ok, you never know what Monday holds right now. Its so easy to say stay positive and very hard to do, I know!! I think I have already moved on from this attempt and am calculating when I can go again. I only have three embryo's left to thaw so I am thinking its likely I will end up getting to a fresh cycle. I do feel in a better state of mind like I have accepted this hasn't worked this time. In saying that maybe at lunchtime I'll be a mess again! I think my expectations were too high this time as I was very lucky on my first IVF attempt. I am thinking of you all. X

[sasygirl]

HOPEFULX--How are you doing??  So you have 3 embryos left?  That is good, what makes you think you will have to do a fresh cycle??  Come on, have some faith!!  It is not awful that you set your expectations high, you had every right, since you got pregnant the first time and you still don't know if it took or not.  I know that you are trying to remain hopeful and that it is so very hard, but god we all could use some good news and maybe you are it.  I haven't decided what to do yet, my doctor said Textbook says I should have a hysterscopy done on my uterus to see if there is a reason my embryos won't implant, but I am not sure I want to try anymore.  I am thinking about surrogacy or a tubal reversal.  I have 9 left and I just don't want to waste them anymore.  What do you think??  Well, stay strong and don't fall apart again, you are doing so good.  PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!

DEVISTATED--ARE YOU OK?  Just worried about you, haven't heard from you and wishing you the best for Monday if you don't get back touch by then.  GOOD LUCK!!!

JLANEY55--How are you feeling girl?  I am feeling a little better, my husband let me cry on his shoulder all night.  I know it is hard, but have you thought about what will come next for you.  I still don't know, I am considering surrogacy and/or tubal reversal.  My doctor wants to do another test something called a hysterscopy to see if there is something wrong with my uterus, but I am so tired of the testing and needles.  It is going to be ok for all of us, but god knows we all just need a little break to gather our strenght back.  This **** is hard work.  I hope you are doing O.K. and you are in my thoughts and prayers!!!

Erica

[Hopefulx]

Hiya Erica, I don't think you should make any decision right now, you are tired and drained. You need a few days to get some perspective. 9 is a great number to have left and they are all blast? What would the procedure involve to get your uterus checked to see why they aren't implanting and also can something be done to help them implant? How many times have you gone through IVF? Sorry a lot of questions I know, I really do think you shouldn't make a decision right now. Can you believe this I did another HPT and it was still -. I started to get my hopes up again and I wanted to bring myself back down to reality. I really think some HCG would have shown up by now as I'm day 12 and the test was an early predictor one. The only good thing is I had some relief today from the cramps. I suppose I am thinking that if I don't get a blast out of my three embryo's I would do a fresh cycle. My three embryo's were not frozen as blasts so if they survived the thaw they would then have to develop to day 5 embryo's. I hope at least you enjoyed your few glasses of wine, Wed evening if still - that's what I'll be doing!! Can I also ask whats a tubal reversal? To be really honest I think you should do the hystercopy but that's how I feel now after another IVF attempt I might feel differently and of course I don't to be saying the wrong thing to you. I just think you have come this far. Thank you also for all your posts, its really good talking to someone who really understands. xx  
Devistated, I hope you too are doing ok, I know that horrible feeling you have right now of despair. It will pass I promise.  Thank you too for talking the time to talk to me, it really really helps and I think I would have been a lot worse this week only for you and Sassygirl!! I will let you know how Wednesday goes, the worse thing is I have to go to work after I do the test, not good!  xx

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, guys, thanks for your thoughts and prayers. I worked today and I fell asleep really early last night, tired of crying. I am OK, don't worry about me, as long as I have you guys to talk with I'll be OK. (my husband is very supportive, but when I freak out and cry he looks like he wants to leave town)
Hopefulx--- ya know Erica is right, we need good news and maybe you are it. Something has to give. We all still have something to look forward to and that is Wednesday. I'll be thinking of you all day on Wed.
Erica---Hi, I'm OK, I promise. Still feel sad, but I have to get over it and it will pass.  Please don't give up yet, you are so young and 9 is a lot to have left. Just think about taking a break and maybe trying again after the Holidays. Just promise me that you will check in once in a while to talk with the rest of us on our next cycles, and or our next 2ww. I would miss talking to you.
Jlaney55-- I really am sorry for your results. I hope you are still not curled up in a ball...I know what you mean when the doc tries to talk you out of something. My doc once tried to get me to skip a cycle (IUI) cause he thought I would definitely end up with triplets or more. He actually tried to talk me out of it. I could have punched him right in his face. Anyway I thought for sure it worked, cause of his concerns and it didn't. Talk about x-tra sad. How old are you? Do you know when you can start your next cycle, will they do a frozen one? Do you have a choice? The only sure thing out of this is that you have this web site, and you can get some comfort from someone who is going through exactly what you are at any given time. Keep in touch. Linda

[mb789]

PART ONE:
Hello.  This is my first time writing, I found you guys last Wednesday.  I want to say to all of you who got bad news on Friday that I am so sorry to hear, I am on the same cycle as most of you and I was praying for all of us.  I too was feeling negative just because through this whole journey there has been so many disappointments and I didn't want to get too hopeful.  We have been TTC for the the past two years, one miscarriage.  This last cycle was my first time doing IVF.  We transferred 3 -3 day embryos.  I am happy to say Friday's beta was positive at 157.2.  We are so thrilled and I just can hardly believe it still.  

The reason I decided to write is that I feel like some of you may be with the wrong doctor.  Trust me, I know.  Before I found my current RE, which from the very beginning has been a blessing, I had two OB/GYN's that really ***** me over.  My current doctor said he wasn't surprised I wasn't pregnant yet.  Anyway, one of you mentioned that just now they want to do an anti-body test and a hysterscopy.  No doctor should let his patient go through one cycle, much less more, before doing every test he can to rule out any possible hurdles. We are putting so much emotional time and energy and a lot of money into this, we should have every chance there is for it to work.  And if there is anything we can to know before we start, we should know it.  Also sonohystogram is actually a much better test to look at the uterus and it costs about the same or less as the hysterscopy.  The hysterscopy can show you the shape of the uterus and it is actually used more to look at your tubes.

[mb789]

PART TWO:
I also wanted to mention that they had my purchase all my stimmulating drugs overseas, from Great Britian.  They are exactly the same drugs but they are at a fixed price.  I was on 4 doses of HMG/Lepori every morning and 4 doses of FSH/Fostimon every evening (so 40 of each) and then Antagon to stop me from ovulating on my own (5 shots total).  My total cost for all of them with shipping and everything was $2026.00.  I was also on Baby Asprin starting the first day of my cycle and will continue it until they tell me to stop.  It REALLY helps the lining of the uterus beef up!

What we have all gone through and are currently going through *****.  It makes no sense.  I do have to say that it has made me a stronger person and it has made my relationship with my husband stronger.  I love him more today than I ever have!  I will pray for all of you that your prayers get answered and if they are not meant to be then I pray that you will find peace.

[sasygirl]

Hopefulx--This was my 4th cycle.  I am just frustrated that they cannot figure out why they won't implant.  They told me every time that my embryos were of perfect quality.  The last ones were day 5 and one was already hatching out of its shell.  The hysterscopy is done as an outpatient procedure, they numb you tutu and go in with a little camera that is on the tip of something that is the size of a straw.  I don't know what they would find, I have already had the following:  endometrial biopsy, sonohystergram twice, and done a month of antibiotics twice.  I don't know what could be inside, but it must be powerful stuff.  I do have 9 blasts left, but what scares me is research says that blasts have a harder time surviving the thaw process and a lot don't make it.  I am waiting on making a decision, but I have been researching a lot and am not sure what we will do.  Tubal reversal is where they go in surgically and try to repair my tubes, since I had them tied years ago.  It costs as much as IVF and has a 6-8 wk recovery time, but you get to try to get pregnant by yourself without the heartache.  If it happens it happens, but if not then it doesn't.  The negative is your chance of a tubal pregnancy is much greater.  Not to sure what to do, just weighing all my options.  How are you doing, another negative is not the end, so don't give up, you are the girls hope now, but we will still love you no matter what.  

[sasygirl]

sorry my last was to long:
DEVISTATED--I am not going anywhere, I will still be keeping in touch with you guys, just probably won't be going through a cycle.  I am so confused and angry, b/c I feel like they say they don't know why it hasn't worked, but aren't they suppose to be the ones to solve the problems like this.  I just don't know what to think.  I don't want to change clinics, b/c the doctor is a family friend and I really feel like he is just as unhappy as we are that he can't make it work.  He has offered his fees to us free for the rest of the frozen cycles, but that won't change the outcome if they don't figure out what is wrong.  I just feel like all of you guys, it just isn't fair that we have to try so hard.  I cried to my husband last night to, and he comforted me and then I made him go see a lovie dovie movie tonight, while I sat there and cried some more.  He probably looks the same as your husband when the **** hits the fan, he wants to be as far away as he can, but I can't blame him b/c he does not know what to do.  I was worried about you and relieved to hear from you.  Please keep in touch and let us know how Monday goes.  I am praying for you to have good news.  GOOD LUCK!!!

[sasygirl]

Hey and welcome.  I want to say CONGRAGULATIONS!!  That is a very high beta for the first, maybe twins is in order.  Thank you for all the insight into your world and for the advice.  What is an antibodies test??  My doctor has done the following on me:  sonohystergram twice, endometrial biopsy, and 2 rounds of antibiotics for 30 days each time.  I would think everything should be pretty much covered, but I guess not.  I have had 4 failed cycles with one miscarriage.  I have thought about changing doctors, but I have come so far with this one, and he is a family friend who is just as discouraged as us.  He has offered to comp his fees for our next cycles if we decide to continue.  I am just so angry and disappointed in myself. Anyway how do you purchase your drugs from overseas???  Interesting.  What other test have you had done, maybe it will help one of us?   How come you are just now chatting with us, we don't bite and we love new chat buddies.  Plus we all needed some good news.  What part of the country are you from, so far we have Ireland, California, New Jersey and Georgia.  I know lots of nosy questions, but what can I say, this forum is an awesome way to make new friends.  Keep in touch with the ultrasound results and with all of us!!!  

Erica  

[mb789]

Hi.  Thanks for the welcome.  I just found you guys on Wednesday.  All of the other forums I have read ( for the past 2 years) have all been old ( 2007), this was the first one I came across that is "real time". I live in Phoenix.   Anyway, there are a few  antibody tests they can do.  I know one is an Antisperm, to make sure your body isn't attacking the sperm ( or the fertilized egg because of the sperm).  Another one is Chlamydia Antibodies which doesn't mean you have the STD but at some point in your life, somewhere along the line you may have gotten it and maybe never even showed symptoms of it.  Anyway, I was tested for everything under the sun.

Bloodwork:  APA Panel, Antisperm Antibodies, Chlamydia Antibodies, Prolactin, TSH, HIV I & II, Rubella, Hep B Core, Hep C, RPR, Varicella, FSH-cd3, E2
Procedures:  Hysterosalpingogram (hysterscopy), Sonohystogram, Mycoplasma Culture

During the Sonohystogram they found what was thought to be a polyp. They removed surgically a few days later only to find out it was just tissue.  But had it been a polyp it can cause a miscarriage, so better safe than sorry.

I totally understand about your doctor being a family friend.  The second doctor I went to was recommeded by a close friend.  Unfortunately I am considering filing a complaint against her now.  She had me on Clomid for 14 cycles with a dose up to 250.  FDA says 6 cycles max and dose max of 150.  She kept convincing me that "this time it will happen" and I trusted her.  Well, it turns out on that doseage I had NO lining what so ever for an embryo to even attach so all the IUI's were useless, not to mention the fact that she timed 3 of them wrong!  All this I find out later, but sometimes you need to step back and see it through someones eles's eyes.  I am not saying you should leave your doctor but what might be a good idea is to schedule an appointment with another RE and bring your past history with you, see what they have to offer and what they would want to do.

[mb789]

I met with two other RE's before I found my current doctor.  I walked out of those two crying, sure I would never find someone.  And then I went to my doctor and he spent an hour and a half with me just talking.  I felt so encouraged when I left and his staff is so amazing.  I just can't say enough about him.

The overseas pharmacy where you can get the stimmulating drugs is ivfmeds.com.  They are super nice too.  I would say definitely spend the few extra bucks to have the meds shipped in three days.  Mine got here on time but just barely, I was so stressed.

When they did your retrieval did they put you on anything?  I ask because I was on both Medrol and Zithromax.  One is an antibiotic the other a steroid they will prevent infection but also help to keep your body from rejecting the "foriegn object" that was just placed in your uterus.  I have to say also I am surprised none of you have been complaining about the progesterone oil shots!  That has been the worst part of this whole thing for me.  They finally took me off them and put me on a vaginal suppositiry because I seriously gres 2 extra hips and they are so hard and painful.  This new stuff is really expensive but at this point, what's money right!!!

Well I have babbeled enough tonight to make up for all the time I spent just reading.

I will keep you updated with everything.  Thanks for the congradulations.  My orayers to all of you that good news comes your way really soon!

[Hopefulx]

Hi Girls,

Good to hear from you all and a whopping big congrats for you mb789, excellent news!  Devistated my husband is exactly like yours, he is great most of the time but when I am feeling hopeless he really doesn't know what to say or do and I have just stopped talking to him about it as I feel he might tell me to get a grip and then I wouldn't be responsible.. ha ha!! Anyway I have you guys to talk to. I did another hpt this morning and it was still -, I am now day 13 and feel that surely something would show up by now. Sure its only another couple of days left now. I can't wait till Wed so at least I can get on one way or the other. The only thing that bummed me out was I won't be able to get another cycle in before xmas as it would work out I would be doing it over the holidays and thats a huge no no!  Sassygirl thank you so much for explaining all my questions. I thought I had read somewhere that blast's had a better chance of surviving the thaw process, I am going to check the sites I visited over the last few days to see if I can find it. I have read so much stuff I can't remember half of it!  I too had a tubal earlier this year and am terrified of another, I lost my right tube and the irony is I got pregnant myself. Also after all the laparoscopies I got done there was never a problem with my tubes!  I know what you mean about feeling angry I get bouts of it from time to time. Devistated I am sending you lots of luck and saying lots of prayers for you for tomorrow. I will be logging on tomorrow evening, the time difference between us I think is about 5 hours. Well its 3pm here at the moment so I think its morning over there right now.  I love the states, my husband has sisters over there, my sister in law is from Conneticut and I also have an aunt who lives there. I think the process is also far more humane where they give you a blood test 10-12 days later, sixteen days is a joke and then its not even a blood test just another HPT.. ok rant over!!

[mb789]

Hi.  I just wanted to say that you should still try to have some hope.  My sister tested negative on a HPT (early indicator) for a week after she missed her period and ended up having a beautiful healthy baby girl!  Also I have read that the male fetus has a lower Hcg level than the females, so maybe it just isn't showing up yet.  16 days is a long time, would a clinic or hospital run a blood test for you? Wishing you tons of luck on Wednesday.  

[clare207]

hi this is my first ivf cycle i had 2 eggs put back at blastacyst stage its now day 11 and i have major crampsand have my home pregnancy test to do in the morning. I have never felf so much pain is this normal as im thinking about doing my test now x x clare xx

[sasygirl]

CLARE207--First of all WELCOME.  The cramping you have been experiencing could be implantation cramping, it is so hard to say, with everyones body being different.  They say they feel like your period is coming.  Hopefully that is what you have been experiencing.  I would be very careful doing an HPT b/c if the results are not favorable you could cause yourself more emotional turmoil, which is not what you need right now.  If you do decide to test I would wait until the first am urine, b/c it supposedly has the most HCG in it.  When is your blood test scheduled???  Where are you from, I know lots of questions, but I like to know about all the new people who have found this forum and started chatting with us.  We come from all over and it is so exciting to have a new family member.  Keep in touch with us no matter what, b/c this forum is such a stress relief and we all know what you are going through.  
MB789--Hey, thank you so much for all the information.  I will be talking to my doctor soon and asking him about the testing you have suggested.  I refuse to go through another cycle until they can give me a good reason as to why I have had no implantation and when I did I miscarried. I was on Mederol and Doxicylin after retrieval until the day after transfer.  Oh, I remember the shots, and they are so painful, I lived on a heating pad everynight. I wanted to ask you if a hysteroscopy is painful??  Look forward to hearing from you soon, and by the way when is your ultrasound???  GOOD LUCK AND PRAYERS!! I

[sasygirl]

Hey you,  how are you doing.  I know you feel like the hope is fading, but keep positive.  I know that is very hard to do, but we are all here for you no matter what.  So, if your cycle did not take when would you be able to start again, not until December??  Why??  Things are so different, b/c over here if I wanted to start another cycle I could start when my next period starts, which would be end of October.  Do you have a waiting period???  If you find something on thawing blasts, let me know, b/c I am a little worried about that.  Are your frozens blasts??  I don't know if I asked you that.  I agree with mb789 see if you can sneak into a clinic for a blood test?  It will help with all the waiting.  So you have family over here?  Do you ever visit?  How is the weather there right now?  I have always dreamed of going to Ireland and kissing the kissing stone, and seeing all the green and beautiful sceanery.  I bet it is beautiful??  Well, I know lots of questions, but it helps to keep the mind of the worrisome stuff.  Can you believe all the girls that have started chatting, I love this forum, it has helped me through this cycle so much.  What do you think??  Well, lots of prayers and thoughts to you!!  Chat at you soon!!  Erica

[sasygirl]

Hey Linda,

How you doing today??  Just sitting around watching the NY Mets lose another game.  My husband and me are huge fans, but they are so frustrating to watch.  So, what time is your appointment in the morning?  What do you think you will do if they tell you to stop the cycle. i hope that your lining is thickening up.  Have you thought about switching doc's or do you feel comfortable with you doc?  I know you sounded a little apprehensive earlier this week.  It just sounds like my situation with the implantation, they don't seem to be able to tell you what is wrong with your lining.  I really think that the Lupron you were on might have had something to do with it. I am praying for you and wishing you lots of luck.  Keep in touch and know that we are all thinking of you!!!  GOOD LUCK!!!  Erica

[mb789]

Sassygirl: Hello.  The hysteroscopy really wasn't any more painful than a normal pelvic exam.  You just have to lay really still while they take the x rays.  The sonohystogram was a little more uncomfortable because they fill your uterus with water but still not too bad.
I was too emotional to schedule my first sonogram on Friday so I will call on Monday.  It will be in two weeks, probably the 13th or 14th of October.  We will be able to tell how many and see the heartbeat(s).  I still don't have any symptoms other than a bit tired and semi sore bb's.  

CLARE207:  I had some light cramping days 5-7 after the transfer.  Also mild headaches and slight neusea.  I don't know about severe cramping, but I would stay away from the heating pad for sure.  Also call your doctor, ask them if you can take anything.  They told me Extra Strangth Tylenol ONLY was ok to use but I didn't want to take anything just in case.  Do you go for your blood test on Monday?  If you can, just wait for that.  There are too many reasons for a test to come back false negitive or positive because of all the hormones we have been taking.  Also, if you had late implantation, it wouldn't show on a HPT.  Try to keep positive thoughts until you know otherwise and all of us will do the same.  Take today and rest, do some deep breathing and try to stay calm.  I know its not easy!  

[Hopefulx]

Hi CLARE207, my advice if you can is to stay away from those bloody HPT's!!  I have been doing them since day 8 after the transfer and I so regret it. I am currently day 13 post transfer and they have all been -. I was suppose to wait 16 days and then do HPT and if - then stop my medication and I would get a withdrawal bleed. The nurse in the clinic also told me that a patient did a HPT on day 12 and it was - so she stopped her medication and it turned out she was pregnant so I think its too early and could just cause heartache. In saying all that I know how hard it is to stay away from them. Since about 3 days after the transfer I have been getting severe cramps. I finally gave in on Friday and took some mild painkillers (ok by clinic). I have read lots of stuff on how some girls got really bad cramps and they turned out to be pregnant so I wouldn't worry at all thats its a bad sign. The only problem is they remind you are getting a period which of course none of us want to be reminded of!! Try and stay strong until your blood test. I live in Ireland and they don't do one, you have to wait for sixteen days and then take a hpt, cruel! Sending lots of good wishes your way, please let me know how you do. X

[Hopefulx]

Thank you so much, the story of your sister did make me feel a lot better. Was she a regular 28 days? I seen my son's heartbeat at seven weeks and they could tell me then it was a singleton. I am so excited for you. Also on my first pregnancy I had no symptoms at all, no morning sickness or anything. When you see the heartbeat it makes it real then. I bet you can't wait until then. God all we do is wait!!! I live in Ireland and the process here is a bit different, no bloodtest, you have to do a hpt after sixteen days. Please keep in touch. x

[Hopefulx]

Hi Sassygirl, the reason I have to wait is when I stop my meds on Wed the nurse told me I will get a withdrawal bleed, she said it will just like a period and then 28 days later I will get my period but I can't start then as I have to wait until my next period for some reason.  I will question that when I go for my review app. When are you back to the clinic? Also my 3 embryo's were frozen at day 3, they were frozen back in 2006 and back then they weren't able to offer blast culture so when mine are thawed they will see if they develop to day 5 so it's a big possibility that I could end up with nothing to transfer. How have you been doing? Have you thought about the possibility of consulting with another for a second opinion? I know its hard though as your doctor is a family friend,  might be worth it. Although right now you are probably still just too drained and tired to think about it. Your husband sounds really lovely and like a great support. I suppose the men are going through it too although I do think its different for the woman, its our bodies after all that have all the meds pumped in!  x
Devistated - a huge GOODLUCK for tomorrow. Hopefully by tomorrow evening you will be on your way. x

[DEVISTATED]

Hi guys, I just got done work today and I'm anxious about tomorrow. My appointment is at 1030am. I don't have high hopes, but if I were to be honest with you, I have some hopes. Erica, to answer your question about my doc. I don't know what to do. I think for now I'm staying, I don't want to give up yet, he knows my body and how I react to all meds. Although I want to punch him in the face, I'll keep him. He still has three of my embies, so right now I have no choice but to stay. I'll keep you posted. Think thick lining thoughts all night and send them my way. Talk to you tomorrow.
Hopefulx- Hi just curious how much are hpt in Ireland???? Ours are anywhere from 12 to 20 dollars. I sure hope you are pregnant. I just can't get over the fact you don't blood test there. It is a sure way to know if you are or are not pregnant. Not sure on the time difference but it's 5:30 pm here. Wander what that makes you doing right now. Talk to you later. Linda
MB789 CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!you must be so happy. YEA!!!!!!!!!!
Clare207, Hi--- when is your blood test. Is this your first IVF cycle? Two week wait kind of ***** we all know. I have had two IVF transfers and both times I felt completely different (both negative results) I felt cramps on my second cycle around day 8,9 and 10 post transfer. I also had discharge around day 4 (pinkish then turned brownish around day 6,7) I thought it was implantation (discharge) but I was wrong, so my point is no matter how you feel, I'm sorry to say there is not definite answer until your blood test. Fun huh. Talk to you later, Linda PS. On my first transfer I felt nothing so go figure!!!!

[LJ2005]

Hello Girls,

It has been exciting, sad, and encouraging to read all of your posts.  This is my first experience with this (but I've definitely read many discussion of women while my husband and I were TTC).  I am currently in my first IVF cycle and just had my 5-day transfer this morning at 10:15am (transferred 2).  I've been just hanging out on the couch today since they told me to be on bed rest for 48 hours.  I would love to support you all and share this journey.  I've been in awe of this IVF technology.  I've hopeful and frightened at the same time.  From reading all of your posts, it looks like cramps 5-6 days after transfer may be a good thing?  Looking forward to talking with you all.    

[DEVISTATED]

OMG, I just realized that tomorrow is my 2 year wedding anniversary. I don't think the husband remembers. We have been so consumed with this cycle that I'm sure he forgot. I know I did. The good thing is I'm off tomorrow and I can get a card and maybe some balloons or something, and when he comes home from work, he will be surprised. ( If he forgets, I can use this against him LOL) Wow 2 years married and we've been through so much in the last couple of years. (TTC) We have 11 years under our belt, so we can do this. Just thinking out loud here, Maybe its a good thing that I have a dr. appt. on my wedding anniversary. (good news, thick lining, maybe a transfer on Tuesday or Wednesday) Wishful thinking????????

LJ2005 Hi, You are about to go through the worst 2ww (2 week wait) of your life. We are all done and hopefully starting a new cycle, except our friend Hopefulx. She finds out on Wednesday if she is pregnant. I'm sure you read that. I hope you share this with us, we will get you through the painful, scary, terror of the 2ww. When is your blood test? Did you have any embies left over to freeze?

[sasygirl]

TO ALL--Just started my period, what a downer.  I knew it was coming, but it just freshens up the wounds.  Well anyway, while reading some forums I saw one on taking Geritol Complete and getting pregnant.  Have any of you seen that.  Even women going through IVF.  It was interesting to read all the success stories, have any of you heard about it???  I guess I am just desperate!
DEVISTATED--I almost choked on my food, b/c I was laughing at the statement you forgot your wedding aniversary.  Wow, the **** we have all went through is really playing with our lives.  You are lucky to be off tomorrow and maybe get one up on the old man!!  Hee, hee!  2 yrs is great, my 2 yr will be in January and I can't believe it.  Happy Anniversary!!  I know tomorrow will be your lucky day.  I meant to ask has your doctor had you on Baby Aspirin?  Just wondering, b/c I have been on it for all my cycles, supposedly thickens the lining.  Good luck tomorrow and fat lining prayers your way.  Let me know tomorrow I will be home all day!!
Hopefulx--I would ask the doc why you have to wait!!  I just don't understand why things are so different over there, but I guess every place has a different approach, but I would ask if things don't work out, but I know they are going to.  I am hopeful for you.  I don't know about switching docs either but I have a lot of questions for him, like why haven't they found out what is wrong with me.  My body has to have some kind of foreign thing in it killing all my embies.  I am so mad, but wondering if switching and starting all over is the answer.  We have invested 25,000.00 into all my previous cycles and I still have 9 embies at this office.  He has offered free services, but lets see how he reacts to my questions...Also curious about your embies, they will thaw them and see if they produce into 5 days.  I would think that they would thaw them and transfer immediately, b/c at least then you might have a chance at 3 days for survival.  I wish you luck, b/c I don't know if I could do what you have done, waiting 16 days, possibly waiting another 2 months almost to start another cycle, and then to think you have to wait and see what happens to your embies.  I would explode, you are one strong cookie.  I admire your strength and determination.  GOOD LUCK AND CHAT WITH YOU SOON!!  

[sasygirl]

WELCOME--I agree with devistated, you are about to endure the longest wait of your life, but I am glad you found us, b/c we have all been there, or are still going there.  I am happy for you, and wishing you lots of prayers for a positive result.  I am the nosy one of the bunch trying to figure out where everyone comes from, so where do you live?  So you are on bed rest for 48 hrs, WOW, I was told just to take it easy and rest for one day and return to daily routine.  I commend your doc for making you rest.  Personally, I think it will make a difference.  I just finished my 4th cycle, but my last cycle I did 3 day and got pregnant, but I also stayed in the bed for 2 days and it worked, don't know if it makes a difference, but I think it did.  I didn't rest as much this time and got a negative, so I am hopeful for you.  Chatting on this site will help you so much and I am priveledged to share in your journey with you.  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH..we love good news!!

TO ALL GIRLS--I just wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU SO MUCH  for being there for me.  You all have made such a difference in my life during these trying times and I am so thankful to have you all on my side for whatever the future holds in store for me.  You all have become my second family and I don't know what I would have done without you all.  This past cycle has been so much easier to deal with then past ones and I contribute that to you guys. To all the new girls who have found us, I want to say welcome to the family!!  This support system has been full of emotional ups and downs, but has been shared by so many who have helped carry the excess baggage.  I love you all and wish the best to all!!!!

I know, I know I got a little emotional, but what can I say, I am still full of a lot of HORMONE MONSTERS!!!

ERICA

[mysty2001]

I would argue with them if you have embies frozen
back to backs have huge success rates - no reason to wait for 2 periods

[Bonniesc]

Hello Ladies,

I have to say I just found this site yesterday and was excited to see other women going through what I was going through.  I am on the same cycle as most of you ladies. I decided to do IVF due to having a tubal 11 years ago.  My husband and I have been married for eight years and we so want to have a baby together.  He has no children.   We actually live in Utah and got referred to an awesome RE at Madigan Army Medical Center.  They work closely with Seattle Reproductive Medicine.  The RE said I would be a perfect candidate for tubal reversal however he would hate to do the surgery and me not be able to get pregnant.   We had a great experience for our First IVF. However the shots were very hard on my due to bruising so easy.   They retrieved 24 eggs, 19 were ICSI, and out of those 19 eggs 13 of them fertilized.  They decided to do a 5 day transfer due to all the eggs doing so well.  They decided to transfer two of my eggs.  One of the eggs were top quality and the other one looked good just in the early stages.  Sadly enough the other 11 did not make it the next day they had to discard all of them.  I am eagerly waiting to go to have my HCG pregnancy test on Tues Sept 30.  I have all your gals in my thoughts and prayers and remember to always have faith even when times get tough.  God Bless Bonnie

[mb789]

Good Morning Bonnie.  Welcome to the site, I am new here too ( just a few days) and it really is a great source for all of us to share what we are going through.  I agree, the shots were no fun.  I am happy to say they took me off the progesterone oil shots and now I am on a supository gel, so much better!!  I will keep my fingers crossed for you tomorrow.  I know I couldn't wait for my blood test and then when the day came all I wanted to do was go back in time.  I was shaking when I called in for the results.  Good luck, let us know how it goes, you are in all of our thoughts!!!

[Anxious334]

I just found this site this morning.

It is such a relief to see that I am not as alone as I thought.  This is my first IVF cycle, day 5 transfer of (2) on friday the 26, just three days ago.  I am going INSANE, unable to concentrate at work, flipping out on my poor husband because he has nothing but patience.  I felt nothing all weekend and some light on & off cramping this morning.  I've called my friend who is an OB/Gyn she told me that implantation might have just started today, it apparently takes another two to three days to begin after a day 5 transfer.  I know I do not possess the patience no to do a HPT, specially since I did not get and HCG shot, the question is if this wednesday ( 5days after transfer is too soon)
This has taken over my world, I can't function until I know one way or another.

[stilltrying502]

I have read these boards many times but I am just joining for the first time.  I had a 3dt on the 21st and I am going a little crazy.  This is my 5th transfer, we have been ttc for 2.5 years.  I have a DD who is 3, and took us 1.5 years of ttc.  But had her though IUI.  I thought that was a difficult process!  I cannot do my beta until 10/5.  My group makes us wait 15 days.  So difficult.  I have been having a lot of cramping since 3dpt, on and off, but this time I have a lot in my back, which is new for me.  I just pray it works this time.  I am not sure I can endure the emotional ride of a 6th transfer.  I wish everyone success!

[Bonniesc]

Thanks for the welcome. You are so lucky to get off the progesterone shots.  I really do not like them at all.  I am so excited about tomorrow.  I know I will not sleep a wink tonight.  I have really enjoyed this site because there is support and we can relate to one another.  Have a great day:)

Stilltrying502- I will pray for you that you get your miricle.  

Anxiou334- Wow I remember when I was 3 days after transfer.  It is very nerve racking to wait.  I also had some cramping and my back hurt.  Good Luck to you

[Hopefulx]

This is great!! So many people to talk to and get advice from.  

Bonniesc the best of luck tomorrow, it's such an exciting and nervous time.

Stilltrying 502,  I have to wait sixteen days and then do a hpt (thats the process here), tomorrow is day 15 for me. I have done the dreaded hpt & they have all been - so far. The last one I did was day 13. Its agony waiting that long.

Anxious334, try and stay away from the hpt if you can. I have been doing and have been getting all - and its really really hard to deal with. I know how very very hard the wait is, agony, but  you may get a negative as its too early and its soul destroying.

mysty2001, thanks for the advice I am going to question that at my review app. I really don't want to wait that long.

Devistated - I am so hoping for good news for you today. I'm keeping fingers toes and everything crossed.  By the way hpt cost about 12 euro. xx

Sassygirl - I guess they want to give me a better chance by getting the embies to develop to day 5. My cramps have gone now completely which is a relief as they were pretty bad, I have manged to stay away from the hpt's today and have decided to wait until I get home from work on Wed to test. Don't think I could test and then go to work. I pretty much know the answer but when you see it for definite well you know how it is.I really think at day 13 some bloody hcg would have shown up!! Please keep me posted on how you are getting on and what you decide. xx

[DEVISTATED]

OK, Listen I saw the doctor today and my lining was almost a 6-----he wants an 8 or more. So where did that leave me. My doctor flipped his wig today and told me that he wants to do this and we are gonna get my lining where it needs to be even if it takes 3 more weeks. So I asked him if there is anything I could do and he said no. He told me that my blood work is perfect and always has been so it's not a medication dosage problem, but a time issue. And we are gonna do it. I have to continue to do estrace twice a day vaginally and I still do the Lupron shot and wear the patch. I feel like I'm stuck on the bottom of the ocean and I can't swim up. I'm hopeful about this and at the same time scared. It's a long time to be on medication and for nothing to happen???? I don't know, I guess day by day. I go back on Wednesday and I need the lining to be thicker and we can continue.

Hopefulx---Before you know it Wednesday will be here. Remember not everyone who is pregnant has a positive hpt.

To all you ladies who are waiting for the blood test. Good luck and I will pray for you.

Sasygirl----How are you feeling, I thought about you this morning and I realized that you are so strong and you always know just the right thing to say. So how about you, are you OK? I know you are feeling sad, but you have a decision to make. Are you gonna wait until after the Holidays? Did you talk to your doctor yet about your next step? I'm here for you. Talk to you later. Linda

[sasygirl]

BONNIESC--WELCOME, I am so glad you found us, we are all going through the same things right now and it is wonderful to know that there are some many other women going through it with us.  I was sad to hear about your embies, but happy to hear that you had a good transfer of two and WOW, tomorrow is your big day!!  I hope that you keep us informed on your results and even after your results.  I am so excited to meet new people from all over the USA.  I just finished my 4th cycle and although it did not take I am hopeful for another round, and at least I have all you girls to go through it with me.  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH?
MB789--How are you feeling?  I hope you are doing well and was happy to see that you have kept in touch.  KEEP CHATTING!!  
ANXIOUS334--WELCOME-good news is you are not alone in this 2ww.  We are all here for you, and believe me you will need all of our support and encouraging words to get through the wait.  WOW, you have an inside scope with the OBGYN friend.  That's awesome!!  Well, the HPT devil is playing with you too.  We have all been there and I would recommend not testing at all. It is just so hard to deal with if the result is negative.  You will be bringing more heartache on yourself thinking it did not work, when it might just be to early to test.  If you decide to test, just don't take the results to heart, b/c you just never know until they draw your blood.  I recommend that you try to take in a movie, have lunch with a friend, to help pass the time.  And there is always us girls to keep you going, they have all been my biggest support throughout this whole ordeal.  Keep chatting and try to stay occupied, easier said then done, but before you know it your wait will be over.  By the way where are you from??  I am so nosy.GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH!!  Someone is always here for you!!

[sasygirl]

STILLTRYING502--WELCOME TO THE SITE WHERE EMOTIONS RUN BIG AND THERE IS NEVER A DULL MOMENT!  HA, HA!  I am so glad you found us and you will be surprised at how much stress relief this site will give you during your 2ww.  I am glad to see that you have had a successful pregnancy, that is always a big plus when you are going through the fertility process.  I know what you are going through, not being able to test for another 5 days.  Where are you from, b/c 15 days seems like a long time.  The average has usually been 10-12 days, except for my Ireland friend and GODBLESS her she has had to wait 16 days.  I noticed you have had cramping, probably implantation cramping.  Are you on progesterone shots?  They might be causing the back pain, they caused me to have horrible lower back cramps.  I feel you pain on going through so many cycles.  I just finished my 4th without success and am still trying to decide what to do.  I have 9 embies left, but this will be number 5 try.  I hope you keep in touch with us on a daily basis b/c you will find such comfort in knowing that you are not alone.  I will keep you in my prayers and look forward to hearing from you again.  GOOD LUCK!!
HOPEFULX--HEY THERE!!  I am dealing with my issues by staying busy around the house.  I gave all my 3 dogs a bath today, cleaned the house and repainted my media room.  I figured it would help me relieve some stress and it did.  I have yard work planned for tomorrow.  I still don't know what to do, b/c I am just so frustrated.  I haven't talked to my doc since Friday, but he is Jewish and today is a holiday for him, so he will be back in later this week.  I think I am going to do the hysterscopy, might as well do another test to see if they find anything.  Well enough about me, how are you doing???  I see you had some relief from cramping, THATS AWESOME!!  I noticed you said you are going to test again on Wed after work, is that when you are scheduled to do you official doctors HPT??  I am so hoping for good news for you.  I have enjoyed chatting with you and you have been a wonderful support system for me, and I just wanted you to know I really appreciate it, and no matter the outcome for you I will be here when the dust settles.  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH!  

[sasygirl]

Hey Linda,
CONGRAGULATIONS TO YOU!!  I JUST KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE GOOD NEWS!!YEHAW!!  You are well on your way to transfer day, and it sounds like your doctor is determined, so that's awesome.  I thought about you this morning and said another prayer, just hoping for you to get good news.  I haven't always been this strong, but since I have found all you guys I have gotten a new faith that I am not in this alone and I have a new support to help me keep going.  I have been doing good today, I decided to stay busy, so I washed all 3 of the dogs, cleaned house, did some laundry and then repainted my theater room.  I lead such and exciting life! NOT!  I have a date with landscaping tomorrow, me and my rose bushes have some work to do.  I am really having a difficult time deciding what to do.  I think I have decided to do the hysterscopy and ask the doc for an antibodies screening.  If I know that there is nothing going on in my uterus then maybe I will try again.  I just feel like something must be wrong, b/c otherwise my embies should implant.  It is such a hard decision to make, and I just remember last year during the holidays, I got a big fat negative the day after Xmas, and that was so devistating.  My doc is on a Jewish holiday and I plan on calling his office tomorrow to schedule the hysterscopy, I think that will be the next step.  If I decide to do another cycle, I would start on my next period, sometime at the end of October.  I don't know what meds he will put me on.  My motto has always been, not to stop trying b/c then I might get lazy and not want to go back for a while, I am sure you know what I am saying.  If you were me, and as my friend, honestly, what would you do?  I value your opinion and would love your insight.  Thanks so much for being there to chat and for always lifting my spirits with your sense of humor.  It has been a such a priviledge to have you on my side this cycle.  By the way, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY???  What are you going to do special?  Did he remember??  What did you do for him??  I am sorry, I just love to be nosey rosey.  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP THINKING FAT LINING THOUGHTS.  

ERICA  

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, I'm glad t see you are keeping busy and I must say, what you did in one day would have taken me 1 month to do. HA HA HA. Now down to business, I do consider us friends and I'm gonna tell you what I think. I think you have 9 embies left and I think you should go on with using them and I'm glad to see that you don't want to wait until the Holidays are over. So that means this October you will start another cycle. Why NOT, you can do it. We can do it together. I wish I had 9 embies left. If you do get pregnant than you can decide later if you want to donate or not. (Our doctor freezes embies for 10 years) You have plenty of time and you also have age on your side. (not to mention us girls on your side) I agree with your motto don't stop trying. I'm more afraid of stopping than moving on to the next step. So I'm 10000000000% for you trying again.
And I am privileged to have you as a friend and on my side!!!!!
OK my anniversary. I bought a card and made dinner, and I bought a Yankee Candle (we collect them, do you know what they are?) No he did not remember, but I can't get mad considering I remembered yesterday. Oh yea I made him his favorite cake too. He came home from work and asked what all that was for. He said "Is it our anniversary or something?" I just laughed. I can't even get mad at him. We've been through so much and after Fridays episode he is just worried about me and what is going on at the doctors. GEE how ROMANTIC, NOT. Who knows maybe I"ll get lucky tonight!!!!
I can tell he feels bad, but it's really not a big deal to me. I only want one thing and I'm gonna work like HELL to get it. I'll talk to you later. Linda

[stilltrying502]

Thanks for the nice words.  This forum is really great.  We have decided to keep our journey private, and since it has been such a long one I am glad we made that decision.  So it is nice to have this board to share.  I live in MA, but 15 day wait isn't standard here either, 11 is,15 is just in my practice.  Lucky me!  My husband and I are flying out for a wedding on Thursday, get home Sunday and I have my beta on Monday.  The timing really stinks.  I wish I knew good or bad before our trip.  That way I could either celebrate or drink my face off at the open bar.  Instead I am just caught in limbo.  I have had 6, IUIs and 5 IVFs over the past two years and have never broken down and taken a HPT, but I am considering taking one on Wednesday, which is 10dpt.  Any thoughts?  Bad idea?  Part of me thinks it is a good idea, and the other thinks that I won't believe the results anyway.  AHH!  What to do?!?
Sassygirl, I am so sorry to hear about your situation.  It is so difficult to be in the position to make these God like decisions, especially when the average person, just has to knock boots to have a baby!  I have had many hysteroscopies and they really are not that bad.  It might help give some insight into why your beautiful embies are not sticking right now.  I have had a few because it is required by my insurance.  I have to have one every year, while I am in fertility treatment.  Either way, I hope you are able to get a clear answer that makes you feel relief.  

[Bonniesc]

Thanks for the warm welcome! I am really glad I found this site.  

Sasygirl- Thanks for the luck!  I will be sure to keep everyone posted on my results and what is to come in the future.  I just moved to Utah and still looking or a job and have no friends yet.  Keep the faith and you will recieve your miricle.  I will keep you and your family in my prayers.  

Devistated- I am glad your anniversary went well.  You did so many sweet things for your husband considering what you have been through.  I will keep you and your loved one in my thoughts and prayers.  

Hopfulx- Thank you so much for the luck you sent my way.  

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, I'm getting ready to go to bed and I just wanted to say good luck tomorrow. I hope you can get some sleep tonight. Just moving and having no job and no friends must be a little stressful on top of waiting for a pregnancy test result. Is your husband in the military? If you don't mind me asking how old are you? It's a shame your 11 embies didn't make it. I have been through 9 IUI's and am setting up for my third IVF. This time we are doing a frozen cycle. I'm sure you've read our conversations, so I don't want to repeat myself. But the most common thing we all have is the dreaded horror of the two week wait and the sleepless, anxious, mind playing tricks on you night before your test. Keep yourself busy and let us know how you make out. Again Good Luck, Everything crossed. Linda

[stilltrying502]

Good luck tomorrow. I will be praying for you all day!

[Bonniesc]

Yes it is very stressful in its self to be in a new place, no friends and waiting for a pregnancy test.  My husband is in the Air Force.  This is our third move.  I am 33 years old.  Thanks for sending luck my way.  Again I am glad I found you guys.  Have a wonderful day. :)

[Bonniesc]

Thanks for your prayers.  I will keep you posted. :)

[Bonniesc]

Okay, I did the labwork.  Now I have to wait for that call.  The nurse said I have 24 hrs to get back to you.  I do not think that is fair that they can call you when they feel like it.  I ask the lab how long it takes for results and they said a couple of hours.  I have an appt at 10:45 so I am going to get the doc to look for me.  I hope everyone has a great day.

[LJ2005]

Hi Girls,

This is just so great to read all the support on this post!  I've shared my little infertility issues and journey with all my friends, and they are very supportive, but no one can truly understand the heartache and pain it causes.  So again, this is great!  

sasygirl:  I hope that period is finally over.  I know what you mean about freshens up wounds of disappointment.  By reading all your posts, you sound like a very strong girl and I wish you the best!  To answer your questions, I am from Toledo OH.  They have me on "bedrest" but I've more been relaxing on the couch all day.  They said I can return to normal activity by today but I work from home so I am able to take it easy until my pregnancy test.  I'm glad it works for you.  If you google "bed rest after IVF" there are quite a few different opinions...pretty interesting!  

anxious334:  I think we are on the exact same schedule!  Did you have your retreival on Tuesday, September 23rd?  I had a 5day transfer this past sunday and my blood test on Tuesday, October 7th (exactly 2 weeks after retreival).  I know how you feel about going crazy with the wait...

Stilltrying502:  looks like we're close in our bloodtest resutls too!  I would so like to know before that wedding as well, but it might be a good idea to hold off.  I almost want to hold off on anything simply because if I don't know...I still have Hope!

Devistated:  I loved to read when you said your doctor was fired up about getting your lining to where it is supposed to be!  When the docs are excited, it gives me so much motivation.  I'm a little surprised you are still on Lupron.  Can I ask the dosage?  The doc knows a lot more, but my doctor was telling me that the lupron really thins out your lining.  I started on 10u, then developed a cyst, they lowered me to 5u.  I hope that thinkens up for you by tomorrow!

Hopefulx:  I feel bad that you have to wait so long for your test.  I bet they just want to really make sure it is accurate.  I go in 14 days after retreival, but even then they cannot call it a forsure pregnancy.  I go back again 2 days later, then 2 days later again because it is so unpredictable the first weeks.  So maybe what they're doing is a good thing?  

Bonniesac:  GOOD LUCK TODAY!  I'll be thinking of you.

I'm sorry for rambling, but as you guys know the thoughts of baby consume you!  I'm grateful for you guys.
~Lindsey

[Anxious334]

To All

Thank you so much for the advice, I can't believe I just found this site after all this time. To find people who knows exactly what you are talking about and how you feel is a blessing right now. I am from New York, and I am not known for my patience. It has now been 4 days since my blastocyst transfer and I feel no different than yesterday.  Spending all my time looking for symptoms that are not there. Everyday spent away from the HPT is a milestone for me.  I am going to see if I can wait until at least Friday before getting an HPT.  

[Hopefulx]

Hi Girls,

Well it was my first day back to work after my vacation and I have to say it was hard, I so wanted to go back to work pregnant. I do my test in the morning and then I have to call the clinic and let them know the outcome. I was going to do it when I got home from work as I didn't want to go to work upset but to be honest I have myself well prepared for a negative result. The cramps have started back with like there's no tomorrow and I have some brown discharge, way too late for any implantation bleeding so this level of pain cannot be good. I also can't bear the thought of any more medication so I must say I will be glad to stop that. I agree with you all this site is fantastic, we too are keeping our journey private and Sassygirl and Devistated have been the best support I could of asked for, they were there right from the start for me. I wish everyone the very best of luck and Bonnie if you have any news please let me know. I am so tired after my days work but I had to log on to see if you had the best news possible, and OMG saying they will call within 24 hours are they insane, do they know how long you have waited already???? IVF is all about waiting I suppose and even if we do get pregnant more waiting until we have our little babies in our arms but so so worth it. Sassygirl you are strong and can keep on the journey, Devistated I have never prayed as much for anyone to have a thick lining as I have for you!!! If I can give anyone advice who are still on the 2ww stay away from the hpt, I know I am repeating myself now but I vow never again until D day!!!!  Its 21:45 over here and I am going to head to bed, the medication makes me so so tired. So talk to you all tomorrow xx

[Bonniesc]

Well, I am not sure what to think.  The nurse gave me the paper with the results which said hcg 14H  she said is positive 0-6 you are not pregnant.  However I called my RE and they said the number is very low.  So I am not sure what to think.  I broke down and took a Hpt and it was negative.  I guess i  just sit and wait I have to go back thursday.

[stilltrying502]

I'm not sure what to make of a 14 either to be honest.  Keep the hope up, you never know, your numbers may keep doubling every day.  I think them telling you that you have to wait 24hrs is cruel, absolutely cruel.  My clinic gets back to us within hours, last cycle they called my back 1.5 hours later.  But your are doing a great job staying positive!  Keep it up and remember that your 14 is much higher than that 0-6 range.  Best of luck!

I started spotting today so my Dr. agreed to let me come in for blood work tomorrow, so I can just be done with this and not travel with needles and meds. for no good reason.  I know some people do spot and get a +.  But this is the exact pattern I have EVERY time.  Cramping from 2dpt, spotting, 9-10 dpt, right around when I would normally get my period and then always a -.  So, I just have to move on emotionally and set my sights towards the next cycle.  There really isn't another option I guess.  But I have to tell you with every failure it gets harder and harder.  I just feel so sad.  Every period is like a mini funeral for the baby I won't have.  I know that sounds very dramatic, but I really feel that way.  It just should be this hard to experience something so normal.  OK, enough complaining!  Best of luck to everyone.  I will keep my fingers crossed and the prayers coming!  

[DEVISTATED]

Hopefulx, You make me cry a little when I read your last post. Ya know we will always be here. I hope that you get right back up on the horse if your results are negative. I agree with you I think it is too late for implantation bleeding but Hell what do we know. After you do your test at home in the a.m. and if it's negative, do you also do one at the clinic or do they take your results as an answer? How long do you have to wait until you try again? Just think before you know it, you will wake up and your test will be done and over with. Keep us posted. Good Luck.

Sasygirl, where are you? Are you OK?

LJ2005, Hi You scared me when you said your doctor said Lupron thins your lining. I've been taking Lupron since September 1st started at 10 and now I do 5 (for about 2 weeks at 5) I thought Lupron suppressed everything and you wouldn't make any eggs to release, so they can control your cycle for a frozen transfer, I did not know it affected your lining. I started taking estrace (pill) on September 7th. 2mg twice a day. Then when my lining wasn't thick enough he doubled my estrace to 2 pills twice a day and when that didn't work he told me to do 1 pill twice a day vaginally. (weird) Anyway it worked, my lining got thicker,but not thick enough. So do you think the Lupron is stopping the lining? Makes sense, cause I never had any problems with my lining before and I was never on Lupron before. Ok, how are you feeling? What day is your test?  thanks for your info....Linda

Bonniesc, You poor thing. I don't know what to say. I'm not sure what the number should be but if they told you 0-6 is not pregnant than that makes you pregnant at 14. Why does this have to be so difficult you either are or are not. It could be just to early and that's why you are low at 14. What day is it for you past transfer? Don't stress over the hpt, its just to early. Some people only show positive on blood tests and not hpt.  Your gonna go crazy until Thursday. Keep your chin up and think good thoughts. I will do the same for you. Talk to you soon. Linda

[Bonniesc]

I had my transfer on Saturday Sept 21!  Yes it will be crazy until thursday.  I will try and stay postive thanks for your kind lift me up words.  

[Bonniesc]

I have to wait till thursday and redo the HCG test.  Hopefully it will double in size.  Thanks for all the support

[sasygirl]

Hey guys, I am still alive, yesterday I had another migraine that I could not shake, even with the ice pack suggestion.  I think my body is coming down from all the meds and still trying to adjust.  I did call my doc's office and tried to make an appt for the hysterscopy but they said they would call me later in the week to schedule because it is like a mini surgery and has to be scheduled in the surgery center.  I also got word last night that a good friend of mine is expecting and it was a little hard to swallow, but I stayed positve for her. Ok, lets get some updates:  
DEVISTATED--how are you doing?  Thanks for worrying about me!  When is your appt, today right?  I am so hoping for good news for you, I have been praying hard for you to get your transfer date.  How are the meds treating you these days?  I have decided to squeeze one more cycle in before Xmas, depending on the results of my tests.  I will not do one in December, it's just to hard..  I am hopeful that they will find something and can treat it and get me some positive results.  Please let me know the results as soon as you can, I will be on pins and needles until then.  GOOD LUCK!
BONNIESC-I agree with the ladies, I think it is just to early to see some strong HCG in you blood. You did not get a big fat negative, just a low reading, so remain hopeful, and I know in the end everything will be good.  From personal experience, I was 12 days PT when I did HCG (3rd cycle) and my reading was 51, very low, but continued to climb, they say they double every 2 days.  I think you are on you way!!  Good luck and don't worry about that HPT test, they suck anyway!!  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH!!

[sasygirl]

LJ2005--No the nasty period is still lingering, but with all the meds my system takes a while to come down to normal.  Thanks for the vote of confidence.  I was interested in reading about the bedrest issue and plan on researching after chatting.  Continue to take it easy and I am so excited for you.  I love this site, b/c I have made such wonderful friends and they are from all over and it is so nice to know that they all understand what each other is feeling.  Even though my cycle did not take this time, I swear it was easier to deal with since finding this site, I know that sounds CRAZY, but I swear by it. Never every think you are rambling on this site, b/c we have all been where you are and the wait is so much easier to deal with when you are talking through it.  So when do you officially test.  I am praying for good news for you and am so happy you are keeping in touch!!  GOOD LUCK, KEEP RESTING, AND THINK POSITIVE THOUGHTS!!!
ANXIOUS334--The mind plays all kinds of tricks on you during the 2ww, but keep positive.  Just b/c you aren't feeling different, does not mean you are not pregnant, when you go through IVF the body is being told to become pregnant, and lets face it baby making takes time.  So try to relax and keep talking through your worries with all of us, b/c we have all been there and know how you are feeling.  Congrats on waiting this long to do HPT, I promise you it so much easier to wait.  So, New York, how awesome, I went to NY City in May to take my husband to his very first Mets Game at Shea, he is a huge fan.  I was in love, you are so lucky, I am still amazed that I could get a piece of pizza at 1 in the morning.  Some girls have all the luck!!!  GOOD LUCK, KEEP IN TOUCH, THINK POSITIVE!!

[sasygirl]

Wow, what a difference a day can make, especially when I have made all these new friends:
STILLTRYING502--Hey, how are you feeling.  I was sorry to hear you weren't feeling all that great.  I understand you feelings of a mini funeral for the baby we all want so much.  I have also been there so many times, but I just have to think that we have all been through so much, for us not to get our hearts desire in the end.  I have wanted to give up so many times, but there is a little voice that keeps telling me, What if next time is different.  Just b/c you have had the same symptoms in the past doesn't mean a thing, unless you let those negative thoughts consume you.  Like I have said before, in this fertility battle all we have is hope to keep us going, and just recently the girls to keep us comforted.  Have you gotten any news back?  I am praying for you!!  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH.  We are all here for you and will take the journey with you no matter the outcome.  
HOPEFULX--Today is the big day! How are you doing.  I thought about you all night and this morning.  I am hoping for good news.  Boy, like Linda said you sure know how to bring a grown women to tears.  I have so valued our friendship this whole process.  I could not have conquered my feelings without you guys, and I truly believe fate has played a role in bringing us all together. I know we all have family there for us, but chatting with someone who is going through the exact same things is a whole different ball game.  I said earlier that this failed cycle has been a lot easier to swallow with all you guys.  You have not let me get down on myself and have lifted me up with all your encouraging words.  I have decided to do another cycle before Xmas, pending my test results, and that WOULD NOT have been an option if you guys had not encouraged me.  I know that good news is on the horizon for all of us,  and we just can't give up.  I am on pins and needles for your results and am praying hard for you.  You have to let me know as soon as you can!!  So you went back to work.  I know how hard that must have been, but hopefully you can find a little distraction there to keep your mind off everything else.  WISHING YOU GOOD NEWS AND LOTS OF LUCK!!!  Chat with you soon!!

ALL THE GIRLS:  I am hopeful for all of us and just wanted to remind you all that you are family now and there will be no disappearing aloud, no matter the news.  We are here for one reason and that is to support one another and encourage each other.  Fate has brought us all together and lets not let the fertility beast tear us apart.  United we stand, divided we fall!!  I love all you guys and am thankful to have you all in my life!!

Good luck to all and lots of prayers!!!!
Erica  

[Bonniesc]

Good Morning,

Thanks for uplifting words.  I am staying positive.  The way I look at it God was with me this whole process opening all the doors for us.  He gave us the most top quality embryo that we got implanted and discarded the other 11.  If it turns out I am not pregnant it would be his will.  I am prepared either way this plays out.  I feel at peace and I am very hopeful that my numbers will double tomorrow.  I hope you have a great day.  

[DEVISTATED]

Well, Well, Well, what do you know, you are now talking to a girl with a transfer date. YEA, YA HOO, WOO HOO, GREAT BALLS OF FIRE, YES SIR. My lining is now a 7 and still growing. I got an A+++++++ at the doctors today. OK, I am on a new pattern of meds and this is it. Tonight through Friday night same, estrace vaginally twice a day and Lupron shot at night. (Not to mention the clamera patch) Then on Saturday I can stop the Lupron shot (woo hoo) and I start taking progesterone inserts. (still do esstrace and patch) On Sunday I do progesterone twice a day and on Wednesday I go for an ultrasound (my lining should be banging by then 8+ no doubt) Transfer two on Thursday at 1:30 pm. and then I start my 2ww wait. I want to thank you guys for all your prayers, they worked. Now we have to just get past the thawing process and we are good to go. My embies were frozen on day 6 so it will be like a five day transfer.
Bonniesc---I just know you are gonna get a huge number tomorrow. I'll be thinking of you.
Hopefulx----What happened today?
Sasygirl----I missed you yesterday, I'm sorry for the migraine. They are the worst. I am so happy you are gonna squeeze a cycle in before the Holidays. We are gonna be so close in our cycle if you do an October one. Talk about making a grown woman cry, you made me tear up too. What gives???? Hope you feel better, Talk to you later. P.S. my meds are better, I only get sick when I change the patch and I still feel like a cow.

[stilltrying502]

Bonniesc I am so impressed with your positive attitude.  We all know how difficult it is to have such a clear head with things are beyond stressful.  Keep up the good attitude and I will keep the prayers coming.  

Sasygirl Thank you so much for being so warm, welcoming and positive.  You always have something wonderful and thoughtful to say.  I know that I don't even know you but I cannot tell you how excited I am that you decided to do  another cycle.  I know how hard it is right now, but I cannot help but feel that you would end up regretting it if you didn't down the road.  I think you are smart to skip December.  It can be a stressful time of year  anyway, why add to it.  Hopefully you will get your cycle in this fall and will have a great Christmas present.

Devistated and Hopefulx I hope you both have great success this week.  Devistated I hope your lining is the thickest lining the Dr. has ever seen and you can move on with your cycle towards success.  Hopefulx, hang in there your wait is almost over.  You have a great attitude and I am super impressed that you were able  to hold off so long for your HPT.  

To All: I, surprisingly, got wonderful news today.  I am pregnant!  After 2.5 longs years, to many needles in the stomach and WAY too many hormones running through my veins, I am now headed towards success.  I am really shocked.  I had tons of cramping and some spotting, but it still came out positive, so I guess you never can tell.  My number was 107, they said they want to see it double by Friday, but I will be away, so they agreed to let me go in tomorrow AM before we fly out for one more test, just to give me peace of mind that it is still climbing.  So please keep the positive vibes coming that this sticks!  I have only been on the site for a few days, but it has meant the world to me.  Thank you so much for all of the support.  I will keep you all posted  on my results.  

[mb789]

Wow, so many new people!  I don't even know where to begin...

Bonniesec:  keep your hopes up, a 14 is still positive, maybe you just had a late implantation?  I will definitely keep my fingers crossed for you for tomorrow.  I agree with you that whatever happens with any of us is part of God's plan and although we may not understand or agree with it, there is a reason.

Hopeflux:  I really am praying for some good news from you today!!!

Sasygirl:  Glad to hear you decided to do another cycle.  I know how you feel, hearing someone is pregnant is just another blow to your heart.  It will happen for you, I just know it!  

Devistated:  Looking forward to hearing about your transfer date.  It sounds like your lining is starting to cooperate!  Are you on baby asprin too?

ANXIOUS334:  I know it is impossible, but try not to obsess on the not feeling any symptoms.  I felt more pregnant last week than I do now.  I would obsess on every twinge, cramp and gas bubble!!  I made it through the 2 ww without taking a test but it was so hard.  But I did know that if I saw a negative, even though it could be a false one, it would crush me all over again.  That is the only advice I can give you, stay away from the HPT!!!

I am now in my second 2ww.  My first ultra sound is on the 14th.  The days are going by even slower than before!!  I am already going crazy.  They don't do another bloodtest to make sure the numbers are rising which kind of bugs me, but oh well.  I wish they would transfer in a camera with the embryos so we can see what they are doing!!!  I am feeling really good still, a bit more tired and peeing a lot!  
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you!!

[Bonniesc]

Linda,

Congrats on getting your lining where it needed to be.  I have been keeping you in my thoughs and prayers.  I will be thinking of you on Thurs while you are having your transfer.  I am positve your embryos will do fine for thawing.  Thank you for having the faith my numbers will have high numbers tomorrow.  

Mb789,

Thanks for your kind words.  I never thought about late implantation.  Is that possible that could cause low numbers.  I will keep you  in my thoughts and prayers and good luck with your us on the 14.  

Stilltrying502

Wow, that is great news you got about being pregnant.  Prayer is very powerful!  I am so happy for you and your family.  I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.  

[mb789]

That is the best news!!!! Great levels too.  Mine were at 157.2, they said anything above 50 on 11 dp transfer is really strong.  I am so happy for you.  It still hasn't sunk in for me yet and I've know since Friday.  Looking forward to seeing tomorrows numbers, I should call my doc and ask him to do another blood test just so I know things are progressing!  Congratulations!!!!!!!

[mb789]

Great news on your lining, that is wonderful!!!  
Looks like there is a lot of good news today, praying for much more to come!
Congratulations!!!!!

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANOTHER POSITIVE, JUST WHAT WE NEED ON THIS SITE. Isn't it crazy how you feel your gonna get your period and BAM you don't. What a freaky ride. I'm very happy for you. Have fun at the wedding this weekend and check in when you get back.

[sasygirl]

OMG--WHAT AWESOME NEWS...I just knew that good news had to be on the horizon.  

MB789--Wow, that is awesome.  Good numbers and still climbing.  You are well on your way to a beautiful baby.  I am so happy for you.  Thank you for the encouraging words, I am hopeful that all the tests I have heard about will show what is wrong, we can fix it and I can be talking swollen feet, peeing all the time, and big boobs with all you gals.  What fun that would be.  I am so thankful you are staying in touch, I want to hear how it is going every step of the way!!  Keep thinking bigger numbers!!!

STILLTRYING502---Weren't you the gal that was asking just the other day WHAT TO DO about the HPT??  I just know this was a much better way to find out!! CONGRAGULATIONS GIRL!!  Be careful on you trip, traveling mercies, good luck on high levels in the morning, and don't fall off the face to the earth, keep in touch.  Let me know how you feel when you get back in town!!!  CONGRATS AGAIN!!

HOPEFULX--ARE YOU OK???  WHERE ARE YOU???

BONNIESC--I am so glad to see you are staying positive.  Just look at all the great news that is pouring in.  You are next for some good news.  I have faith that your numbers are on their way up and it is just a watch and wait game now.  God is a powerful source of strength, he has been my rock, and without him and you gals I would not have made it through all of this.I have always said that he will never give you more than you can handle.  I will keep you in my prayers and you had better keep me informed on your progress....GOOD LUCK AND LOTS OF PRAYERS!!!

ANXIOUS334--Are you ok??  Hope you are not still stressing, it is not good for you.  Let me know how you are doing, and keep in touch. PRAYERS TO YOU!!

[sasygirl]

LINDA, LINDA, LINDA---OMG, WHAT TO SAY!!!  I am so very, very happy for you.  I told you, I told you, I told you.  I just have a gut feeling that this time is your time.  When you get great news like this, it makes all the negative parts of the meds, weight gain, emotions, and **** feelings a little easier to swallow.  Especially, when the end result could be a beautiful baby.  I bet you are on cloud nine.  How is your husband taking the news, I know he must be excited for you guys to.  Transfer day Thursday, wow not to far off, then I will be talking you through the 2ww.  How long have your embies been frozen??  They are blasts, that's even better!!  I am so happy and will continue to send prayers your way.  I called my OBGYN today and I am going to sit down with him in the next week and write out a game plan for doing some tests. If I go through my RE, there is no insurance, so I decided to give my OB a crack at it.  At least it will be covered through insurance.  I also decided to do some volunteer work at my kids school, and wow, what fun I had.  I have been going crazy in the house lately and I just couldn't take it anymore.  You will probably laugh, but I worked in the library today.  I think all library women look the same, glasses, white hair, and that 70's wardrobe, hee hee!!  I felt a little out of place, b/c the other volunteer that was working there was SCARY!!   I would ask her a question and she would just stare at me, like it wasn't registering with her.  She never smiled at me, and I am sorry, but I am a very outgoing person, so that just wasn't working for me.  I am gonna have to spice things up with her and see if I can bring her out of her shell.  Well, enough about the boring life of a Desperate Housewife!!  How was your day??  Again, I am so excited for you and your husband.  I am thankful we are going to get to share this journey together, and I hope to be following in your positive footsteps soon enough.  CELEBRATE, HAVE SOME FUN TONIGHT, (HEE, HEE), AND KEEP THINKING FAT LINING THOUGHTS.  BABY PRAYERS TO YOU!!

Erica

[sasygirl]

I just wanted to let you all know that ERICA is a great name, if you are having a girl, and it is not commonly used these days, so keep it in mind if you are struggling to come up with a good name!!    

HEE, HEE

JUST JOKING, have to have a sense of humor to go through all this ****!!

Erica (AKA-sasygirl)

[LJ2005]

You girls are cracking me up and it is AWESOME to hear such WONDERFUL news for many of you.  What a relief!  I'm happy for you devistated, that your lining is perfect.  I've been thinking about you and hoping that I didn't tell you any false info about lupron.  I was getting nervous...but now who cares becuase you're good to go!  It has now been 3 days past my blastocyst transfer...and I feel nothing.  Its been very scary for me because my excitment is dwindling knowing that my next appointment is not just a "check up" but a "yes or no" answer if i'm pregnant!  This is my first time going through this.  I almost don't want the test to come (tuesday 10/7) because until that date I still have HOPE, and after that date I might not.  Okay, so enough of that.  How about all the great baby dust that is flying around this site!  Erica is a beautiful name, I would also suggest Lindsey:)

~lindsey

[sjoquism]

Hello ladies!  I feel so lucky to have happened upon this blog last night!  I am going through my first cycle of IVF, with my 5 day transfer happening last Sat (Sept 27) and I am totally suffering through this wait!  My doctors office does two preg tests, two days apart because they've gotten feedback that people don't just want to know if they're pregnant but want an early read regarding if its going well.  I am totally for that...I have been through 3 IUI's before this, with the last one having been successful, only to find out a few days after my pos pregnancy test that my betas weren't doubling and I miscarried.  Very hard on me...so I am also not at all tempted to mess with my brain and do a HPT.  My little blastocyst was rated a 4BA (they only transferred one) so I'm worried about the B and that its not going to develop properly.  I've been having bouts of dizziness, been quite tired, have sore boobs, which seem to be side effects of progesterone, so I'm not sure if that means anything.  I've also been having light cramps off and on (which turned a little stronger tonight)  starting 36 hours after my transfer.  I had cramping at my last pregnancy, but I've read that it sometimes means something and sometimes it doesn't...so I just don't know.  What do you guys think?

My embryologist let us look at the blast before putting it back into me and she said that it was beginning to hatch...I really want this to be working out, but I'm so scared to hope!  We've been trying for 2.5 years now...I am 30, so people keep telling me 'oh you have time' and I get so frustrated to hear that!  Its been a long road thus far.  How do you guys get through this?  My first beta is scheduled for Mon and second for Wed, so I have a whole week left to wait!  Ahhhhhh!  I have some people in my life who know this is going on, but no one who has been through this so really don't know what I'm going through...

I've been reading through your stories and you all are so supportive and its so awesome to have found others who are going through the same thing right now!  

[mb789]

Welcome to the site!  Everyone here is wonderful and supportive, you're going to love it here!!

We seem to have very similar stories.  We have been trying for just over 2 years as well, miscarried a year ago, went through 4 IUI's with nothing to show for it.  This was our first IVF transfer (9/15) and we found out last Friday we were pregnant!  We transfered 3 -3day embyros that he called "perfect" 8 cells.  We retrieved 10 mature eggs, 5 fertilized and of the 5, 1 wasn't good.  So we had 4 left, usually he will not freeze just one but he said all 4 were so good that he would be comfortable doing that, so after this one (or these ones- we'll know in 2 weeks) is born we'll do another with the frozen embryo ( not right away!)  Everyone in our life knows about what we have been going through, so we had to tell everyone we were pregnant.  Everyone wants to be there for me but they have no idea what we have been through.   I kind of wish we could have waited a while to tell everyone but instead the way I choose to look at it is the more prayers we have the better!  

I started cramping around day 5-7 after the transfer, not too bad but definitely noticable.  After that I had mild headaches and neusea, semi sore boobs.  I chalked it all up to the progesterone too because I was scared to think I could actually be pregnant this time.  The day before the blood test I noticed veins in my breasts that were never visable before.  The day of my blood test I wished I could go back to the begining of the 2 weeks, I was so scared.  

No matter what don't be afraid to hope, it is all we have right now.  We will all stay positive for you but every time you get scared just give it to God and focus on what could be and what you want.

My prayers are going out for you that you will be sharing the great news with us on Monday!!!

[Bonniesc]

Hello all,

I just wanted to let you know today I go back for some more labwork to check my HCG level.  My day started out so awesome.  I took another HPT and it came out positive.  :)  I hope all of you have a great day!

[Anxious334]

Good Day all

I just wanted to let everyone know that yesterday I took everyone's names and put them down on a prayer book at my church.  There was a 12 oclock service offered for all of our intentions.  At the end of the service, the senior citizens group takes the book and pray for all of the people who ask for prayer.  Ladies, when mentioning our names  (sasygirl) (BonnieSC) (Devistated) etc..... the tones and expression on the ladies faces were priceless....

LJ2005 - My brother's fiancee is an OB/GYN, she told me a few days ago when I complained about feeling nothing.  That on day 5 after a blastocyst transfer is when the blastocyst has implanted into the lining (a 3 day process) and has by then split into placenta and fetal cells.  HCG is only produced by the placenta cells, and then secreted into the bloodstream.  Like I was told, stay away from the HPT.  I have yet to do one and that in itself is a miracle.

SJoquism - Our stories are so close. I had my transfer on Friday 9/26 and my bloodtest is on Monday 10/6.  I didn't have the HCG shot and have absolutely no symptoms except for the occasional mild cramp.  Headache from my inability to sleep because I am absolutely OCD because of my inability to control this so important part of my life. I hate it when they tell me "you're young" .

Bonniesc - Best of luck and much prayers for you, your bloodwork is going to turn out just fine, you'll see....

I am so happy for you Linda, Stilltrying502 and Devistated...

God Bless everyone...

[Bonniesc]

Thank you so much for putting our names in the prayer book.  Waiting for the nurses call is the worst.  Have a great day.  

[clare207]

Hi guys

Thanks for all of your comments i am from kent in england so we have a choice hpt or a blood test unfortunatly my blood test was due on the weekend and they told me to an hpt.... This is my first attempt at ivf i have already suffered from severe cramps and i also have a POSITIVE result so i am over the moon. I have taken 6 hpt test since just to make sure!!! Now im having a little type period which im rather concerned about but my clinic have told me to increase my pessaries and are not concerned is there anybody that has had a light browish perod that has lasted 2/3days and been ok ???????

[Bonniesc]

Well I just got a call from the nurse.  My first HCG number was 14 and my second number is 37!!! I am not sure if I should be happy or not.  I talked with the nurse at the fertility clinic and she said the number did go up which is really good but we are not out of the woods.  I have to go back Monday.  Any thoughts

[sjoquism]

mb789: I am so happy the end result turned out well for you!  It is great to hear stories like yours...they give me hope that it can actually happen.  I have really veiny boobs and skin in general, so I'm not sure I'd notice the difference now...although my first preg I did notice them get bigger and more veiny.  Just haven't noticed that yet.  I am scared too...Because I let a bunch of people in on what we're going through and everyone is excitedly waiting to hear what happens.  Its just that they're all naive about the real pain I've already gone through and no matter what, I think I'd like to be alone with the news for awhile (with my hubby) before anyone knows.  I guess if I hadn't had the miscar already, I'd probably scream from the rooftops, but I know that even if I hear good news on Wed the nervous wait is only just beginning.  I hope your pg goes well!  When do you have your first u/s?

Anxious334: I wish you the best of luck on Monday!  I've been OCD too...about internet data searching and seem to find people saying cramps mean good things, but then other stories of women who cramped and had BFNs.  I cramped during the beginning of my first preg, but it quickly didn't work out, so I dunno if the cramping is good or bad.  It seems to get more so when my bladder is filled, although I have cramped without a full bladder.  Also, I have my first Hcg on Mon, second on Wed, and I don't get to find out the results until Wed...so I have a couple day longer wait.  I really think they could've started testing me on Sat, but oh well...nothing I can do now.

Hope all is going well with everyone else!

[Anxious334]

Bonniesc -  The numbers more than double.  my soon to be sister-in-law, that poor girl, I am sure she is sorry she specialized in OB/GN, because I just called her about your numbers and she says if you call your MD they will tell you that once transfer the blastocyst has to hatch out of the shell and that doesn't usually happen like clockwork (whithin 24 hrs for blastocyst) and that could be the case for you.  You could have a late implanter, you just have to wait and see but the fact that the numbers went up is good.

Best of luck...  

[Bonniesc]

Wow thank you for asking her about me.  I thougt it was good that the numbers went up.  I was really happy that the HPT stated positive this morning too.  I will go back Monday for another HCG test. Thanks for caring.  Good luck on Monday

[mb789]

Anxious334:  Thanks for adding us to the prayer book.  The power of prayer should never be under estimated.  

BONNIESC:  I am so happy to hear the numbers doubled!  Hopefully you just have a late blomer in there and the numbers are perfect just where they are!

SJOQUISM:  Monday is almost here!  It is a scary day but could also be one of the happiest of your life, focus on that.  It is hard when everyone is waiting just as anxiously as you and your husband.  I told our parents I would call no matter what the outcome but asked everyone else to wait to hear from me.  If it was negitive I couldn't deal with the phone ringing.  I know how you feel about the previous m/c, that was my fear of everyone knowing too.  But like i said, the more prayers from your family andn friends, the better!
Good luck, we all be here waiting for the good news!  My 1st ultra sound is the 14th, already going crazy with the wait!!!!!!

Clare207:  Great news!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I know what you mean, the first thing I did when I found out was a HPT just so I could see the positive.  So happy for you.

TO EVERYONE:  I too pray for all of us each night with St. Gerard's Prayer, either For Motherhood or For Mother with Child.  If you don't already know about him you can find the info on the internet or at
http://www.rc.net/redempt.au/majellal.htm#For%20Motherhood
You don't have be Catholic to talk to him!

[DEVISTATED]

Anxious334 Thank you so much for putting my name in the prayer book.  It means alot to me. Monday is right around the corner!!!!!!!!! Good positive thoughts.

Bonniesc Yea your numbers more than doubled. Good Job, everything is gonna be fine come Monday and your numbers are even higher. Keep your head up.

Clare207 Hi, Congratulations on the positive. Can your clinic do a blood test? Even know your hpt was positive, can't you ask them to do one and get a reading of what your numbers are? (HCG levels) I only know one thing about blood discharge and my doc told me if it's brownish, it's old blood, if its bright red it's fresh. Sorry if that doesn't help you. If your clinic is not worried about it, everything should be OK. You could also be  bleeding from the medications. Good Luck and keep us posted.

LJ2005- You are so awesome, thanks for thinking about me. Listen don't lose your excitement. Even if your test on Tuesday is not what you want (Don't think that way) you will somehow find that the hope does not go away, you will hope all over again next time. Will there be a next time? (Not that there should be, cause we have positive thoughts) I will keep everything I can think of crossed for you and your results.

Hopefulx Where are you, I want to know if you are OK. I hope you come back.

Sasygirl-Hello my friend. I laughed so hard when you talked about the scary Librarian.
She's got another thing coming working with you. I pictured her just staring at you and I couldn't stop laughing. You are too funny. Hope she warms up. My embies have been frozen since July. (they are from my last transfer) I'll catch up with you later. PS what do you think happened to hopefulx. I'm worried.

[sasygirl]

WOW, when I joined this site weeks ago, I never imagined that I would be making a new friend daily.  I am so happy that you all have found us and hope that you keep chatting with us, this site ROCKS!!  WOW--Where to start.....

LJ2005--I love the name Lindsey, ha, ha. How are you doing?  I was glad to hear from you again.  I know that you are going through a difficult wait, but in the end with all the baby dust flying around this site, I am sure that you will have great news!!  Just b/c you are not feeling anything, does not mean a thing, and I noticed that you are developing a bad case of the negative feelings.  That is not good, especially when you are going through so many emotions, negative feelings only making it that much worse.  You have so many people supporting you right now, and praying for you that you should be overflowing with hope.  No matter the outcome, in the end you cannot lose your hope b/c that is all you have.  We are all here for you and I encourage you to keep chatting, take in a funny movie, do a little shopping, try to stay busy.  I know easier said then done, but just know that you have an awesome support system here and we are all holding your hand....GOOD LUCK AND LOTS OF PRAYERS!!

ANXIOUS334--would have loved to see the faces on those ladies.  I bet it was priceless.  Thank you so much for the prayers, I believe they have such a healing power.  How are you doing?  I have been thinking about you and continuing my prayers for you.  I am so excited for your wait to be almost over.  I just know that all the good news is not ending anytime soon...GOOD LUCK AND BABY DUST YOUR WAY!!!

MB789--Where have you been, and how are you feeling?? I was wondering when I would hear from you again.  Are you taking it easy, and still just sooooo excited???  Isn't your US coming up this next week.  I bet you are bubbling over with excitment! I am still sending prayers your way and look forward to all your good news in the future!!  

HOPEFULX--WHERE ARE YOU, WE ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT YOU!  ARE YOU OK?  PLEASE LET US KNOW......PRAYERS YOUR WAY!!

[LJ2005]

Hi Girls,

Congrats to you Bonniesac, that is great that your numbers have doubled!  I have good feelings about your outcome!  Thank you so much anxious334 for the prayers at church and for checking with your brother's fiance about cramping.  I know we just read into every possible thing that could lead us to a pregnancy. I look forward to the day when I don't google every possible symptom/idea that comes into my head about ttc.  Anxious334 and Sjoquism...I think we are just about on the same schedule!  I had my transfer on last Sunday and my blood test is on Tuesday and again on Thursday.  I will be praying for you all as well.  Most of our friends and family know exactly what's going on and it great to have the support, but also a little more people to talk about if the result is not what you want.  

I was put on bed rest for the first 48 hours and then told to go back to normal activity afterwards.  Is there anything you're doctors have advised you to do during the wait?  My doc just said at the end to keep taking the progesterone and prayer!  It's up to the heavens above:)  I'm just curious what you guys were told.  

~Lindsey    

[sasygirl]

MB789--SEE, so many people I didn't realize you chatted yesterday. I felt stupid!!

CLARE207--CONGRATS TO YOU! How are you feeling, I imagine you are still just taking it all in.  I am so happy for you and I hope that you continue to chat with us all, we just love the baby news!!!  PRAYERS YOUR WAY!

BONNIESC--I am so happy for you...CONGRATS TO YOU!!   I just knew you were going to get good news.  All these prayers are working, your numbers are still rising, and I just knew that baby dust was coming your way.  Keep in touch with those numbers!! GOOD LUCK AND LOTS OF PRAYERS!!!

SJOQUISM--WELCOME, I am so glad you found us, we just love new ladies to chat with.  I have to ask the question, Where are you from?  I love to know that I am meeting people from all over the world.  How are you doing?  I know what you are going through and I feel your pain.  I got pregnant on my 3rd cycle of IVF only to miscarry at 9 weeks.  I had told everyone, and even went shopping for baby stuff.  I was totally devistated when I went to my first OB appt, only to have the ultrasound tech, say "Sorry, no heartbeat", I wanted to punch her in the face, b/c of her insensitivity.  She had no clue what I had been through to get to that point.  It is so comforting now, knowing that everyone who chats here knows TRULY, how you are feeling and we can all support each other.  I believe you could be experiencing implantation cramping and should not worry, b/c sounds like your embie was in good shape.  I envy you, and the fact you get 2 blood tests, early and again to follow up, what a relief that is.  I just know that everyone on this site is destined for good news, there has been so much baby dust flying, that there are gonna be some busy OB's in about 8-9 months.  To answer your question about getting through all this, BY THE GRACE OF GOD!!  I am so happy to add you to my new friends list, and will keep you in my prayers.  GOOD LUCK AND KEEP IN TOUCH!!!

[sasygirl]

DEVISTATED--I am glad to hear you had a laugh.  I found the whole situation quite comical myself.  How are you doing??  Good, I hope.  I am worried about Hopefulx, I am thinking she may have gotten bad news and is going through her depression phase.  I am praying that, that is not the case, but she has been so good about chatting back.  I am praying that she gets back in touch, b/c I think no matter what, we all need each other.  I am hopeful, I got a doctors appt with my OB next Friday, so pray that he and I can come up with a reason for my unfertility.  I am nervous, but excited to be starting the process again.  Can you believe all the new ladies that have found us??? I am so thrilled each night to find that someone new is beginning their journey with us.  Well, I have some TV shows recorded that I have to play catch up on.  Prayers your way and keep thinking fat lining thoughts.

Alright ladies, goodnight, sleep tight, and let the baby bugs keep biting!!!!

Erica

[Bonniesc]

I just have to let each and everyone of you know how nice it is to have people to talk to you understand what you are going through.

Linda,
Thanks for your  uplifting words.  

Mb789
Thanks for your kind words.  How have you been feeling?  

LJ2005
I wish you luck and BIG #'s on Tuesday and Thursday.  I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Thanks for your good feelings about my outcome.  

Sassygirl,
Thanks for the Congrats. Thanks for sending prayers my way.   How are you doing?

[Hopefulx]

Hello ladies, I'm here!  On Wed night I wrote an huge post and it didn't save, I nearly cried!! Maybe it was because it was too big?? I was tired after my first day back in work I didn't have the energy to start again. Yesterday evening my husband was out at a work dinner and my son was like glue to me so I didn't get a chance to log on.  Anyway I'm not taking a chance this time, I'm going to write separate posts to the other ladies.

Firstly I'm so thrilled and delighted with your lining Linda, thats fantastic news, so next Thurs will be your transfer? That is so great you can start your journey cos its just so frustrating when you are caught in limbo.  Linda whats your work schedule like for the coming weeks, hopefully not too strenuous? I will be with you on your 2ww and am going to pray for that little embryo to implant and grow big!!

Erica I'm also glad you are going to continue the journey and will get the test done to see why they haven't implanted so far, its a step closer to your baby. Like you I will be starting my journey again. I woke up at 3am on Wednesday morning and did the final HPT and got a negative. I didn't even cry I just got back into bed and went back to sleep! I haven't even cried since. To be honest I think I did all my crying last week and dealt with it then. On wed morning on the way to work from the car I called the clinic and another nurse tole me I COULD start another cycle in 28 days time, that contradicts what the other nurse told me so I hope she's right. I have a review app on the 16th Oct.  Anyway after I made the phone call a song from the movie Manequinn which was out in the eighties came on the radio, it's by a band called starship and is called 'nothing's gonna stop us now' I sung every loudly and thought your damn right!!  I woke yesterday morning to a cold, sorethroat and my period!! The only good thing was I could take painkillers. God I felt your pain when you said a close friend told you she was expecting. two things happened to me, when I returned to work on wed morning there was a picture of an new born baby in my inbox, a colleague had given birth the previous night. And a friend told me she was pregnant with her third and it wasn't planned!! God some people.. ha ha! I laughed when I read about the white haired library ladies, even though I have never met you I could imagine you. Hey maybe next time it will be our turn, you never know!!

Tonight I am going to drink a large bottle of wine and watch some comedy!
xx

[Hopefulx]

Bonniesc, that great news so far and I will day a prayer all will be well on Monday. I know its so hard, try not to worry or at least get out and about till then. xx

MB789 - I bet you can't wait to see the heartbeat flashing when you go for your 1st scan, I remember the feeling I had on my son when I seen it, its just the best feeling I have ever had. Its so hard not to worry, like I said before its waiting waiting and more waiting!! I am thrilled for you xx

LJ2005 - Its so hard isn't it? As Erica said keep busy, it really does make the days go quicker. I know its all you are thinking about right now. I am praying for you to get the best news ever. xx

Anxious334 - Thank you are praying for us, every little helps, right? I bet the ladies were thinking who are these people!! Hang in there your wait will be over soon and I will be saying lots of prayers for you too. xx

Clare207, H, I'm from Ireland (Dublin) and have been chatting the girls during my 2ww, they have been brill. I wasn't successful this time but I did have a little boy on my first IVF attempt and I too had brownish discharge. The clinic told me only if it was pink or red to worry. In the states the process is so much better, they have blood tests 10-12 days after the transfer where here we have to do a hpt 16 days later, you must be the same? I am delighted for you and I know its such a worrying time but stay strong!!

Stilltrying - you'll have to change your name to 'got there".. ha ha!! A huge congratulations and wishing you the best of luck. xx

If there is anyone I have forgotten or if I have gotten anything mixed up I'm sorry, when you miss a couple of nights to hard to catch up!! Keep in touch everyone xx

[sjoquism]

mb287: Thank you for the prayers!  I'm excited for your ultrasound!  That has to be one of the coolest things...to see your baby's heart beating.  :-)  For me, I'm getting a little down, because it seems like my cramping has mostly gone away and I'm not really feeling anything out of the ordinary.  I just want a sign...something.  Six days left until I find out (including today) which seems like an eternity!

LJ2005 and Anxious334: Amazing about our timing!  I'm hoping for a hat trick!  :-)  LJ, how are you feeling?  My cramping has mostly ended...I sometimes feel a little when my bladder is full, but ended mostly yesterday (so 5Dp5DT).  I'm hoping it means the little embie has safely burrowed in now, but my last preg (which ended in m/c) had me cramping all the way through my preg test.  Don't know if that means anything.  My doctor had me on bedrest for the rest of the day of my Transfer, but then I could resume easy daily activities the day after.  No jogging, saunas, or sex (this is a major bummer).  My mom was very upset that I was walking around the next day...but I took it easy.  I just could not do another whole day laying in bed.  The thing too was that my nurse told me not to put any pressure on my hips, which meant that I couldn't prop my head up or my legs.  But she did say it was ok to lay on my side, so I did that a lot.  Its not much fun to stare at the ceiling!!  I am taking 1cc of injectible progesterone in oil each day.  

Sasygirl - Thank you for the welcome.  I am in Minnesota although it was interesting to see someone from Ireland on here.  My husband and I lived in Galway for a year a few years ago.  I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriage.  I had a really hard time with mine and I found out pretty quickly (within a week of preg test) that it didn't look good.  I can't imagine having built up the hopes and dreams for longer and then experience that loss.  My Irish friends told me that although they would buy baby stuff and get baby stuff before the birth of a child, they would not bring any of it into the house for fear of jinxing the whole thing.  It sounds a little jaded or hardened, but I'm thinking we may do something similar if we are ever lucky and blessed enough to get pregnant!  Yes this site and these ladies seem to be very good luck and I hope that rubs off on you!  Where are you from?  

BonnieSC - Your numbers seem very encouraging.  They are only supposed to double, so your results are great!

Hopefulx - What a hard spot you're in.  It brings tears to my eyes and I don't even really know you!  I just know what you must be feeling!  Isn't is just so frustrating to hear things like "oh, we got pregnant on our first try!  My husband must have great swimmers!"  I mean, its great news to hear others are pregnant, but then when you hear things like that or "it wasn't planned"...you want to throw your arms up in the air and say "what the hell?!?!?"  It just doesn't seem fair.  I guess the way I look at it, is if it does ever happen for me, I think I will be so much more thankful and concious of the miracle that I think it will touch me so much more deeply.  Enjoy your bottle of wine tonight!  Slainte!

I wish everyone the best of luck!  You all will be in my thoughts and prayers!

[HPTFANATIC]

Hi! I have just gone through a 5 day blasto transfer 4 days ago and I am having cramps in my back and a brown discharge.Is this normal? I have probably taken about 4 hpt already(all neg. of course).  I am pretty worried at this point. This is my first IVF cycle. Any Advice or Comments!

[Anxious334]

Good Morning all

I hope everyone is having a better day than I am.  Last night I started spotting along with the cramping.  The color was dark, so I was more concern with my lack of symptoms than the light bleeding.  This morning still no symptoms, and bright red blood with a neverending migrane.  Now, I got so frustrated, I called the Doctor's office and told them I am not even coming in for my blood test on Monday, there is no need.

They of course told me that I must come in anyway but I truly don't see the point.  I couldn't even tell my husband, poor guy already rubbing my belly and talking to it.  I couldn't find it in my heart to tell him that I think my period is a week early as appose to nine months late.

Oh well, what are you gonna do.  I will keep you guys up to date.  Everyone have great day....

[mb789]

HI!  Don't get down about the cramping going away, it could be a really good sign.  I only had mild cramping from days 5-7 after the transfer.  Then it just went back to the normal progesterone induced "is that a sign/symptom"?.  Unfortunately there is absolutely nothing you can do at this point but take care of yourself and and the possiblility of that baby and think positive thoughts.  Also, I don't know if they told you, but make sure you stay really hydrated.  It is so important for the growing baby, you should be drinking 8-10 glasses a day.  Hang in there, only a few more days.  I am feeling really good today, I am amazed at how much I have been sleeping though.  I have mild syptoms (symptoms) coming and going, I actually am looking forward to more pronounced ones in the week to come!  I will be heading into my 6th week over the weekend, I can't wait for the ultra sound.  It isn't until the 14th, an eternity away!  Try to keep yourself busy, watch stupid movies and lay on the couch!  Is your test Tuesday or Wednesday?

[clare207]

thanks so much for all you help and lovely comments i dont think i would of got through some days without answers from you guys x x i have an early scan on the 17th of this  month to tell me how many sacs there are inside so fingers crossed!!!

I wish everybody good luck with it all and i will pray for us all every night

x x x x x x x x x x x x x x

[mb789]

Hopeflux:  I am so excited about the US, it can't come soon enough.  I am also so sorry to hear about your news, it never gets any easier. I also know there are no words to send you to comfort you so instead I'll just send more prayers and a hug.  Looking forward to hearing if you can start your next cycle right away, that would be great.  

Sassygirl:  No worries!  There are so many new people I am having a hard time keeping everyone straight too!!  I am feeling pretty good, bouts of neusea, peeing a lot and extremely tired on and off, but I will take it.  My husband is being so funny, he won't let me do anything ( but cook dinner).  I don't work so I am used to cleaning the house and doing errands and all that kind of stuff, he almost took my head off when I went for the vacuum the other day.  Fine by me I guess!!

HPTFANATIC:  By your screen name I am going to guess you won't like my advice, but STAY AWAY FROM THE HPT!!!! All you are doing is wasting your money and your emotional energy.  There is no way that it would detect anything this soon anyway.  As far as the brown spotting, I have no idea.  I have read that many people get that and as long as it isn't bright red or clotting it shoud be ok.  I would still call your doctor and let them know, it will give you peace of mind.  Let us know what they say, and just take care of yourself and take it easy.

Anxious334:  I am so sorry to hear your news.  Maybe all is not lost, until the blood test you won't know anything.  What if you has two implant and you are just loosing one and that is the blood.  Maybe, just maybe?  I don't want to give false hope, I am no doctor but you still need to take care of yourself until the test.  I will keep you in my prayers, let us know what happens.

[mb789]

LJ2005: Hello.  I was told by my doctor to have bedrest the rest of the day of the transfer and then I could resume to normal activity but total pelvic rest.  My husband was being really over protective and made me do bed rest for 48 hours until I statred going crazy and told him I promise to take it easy but I had to get out of the house.  I stayed on pelvic rest for the whole 2 weeks and continue to do so.  I know most people don't even know they are pregnant yet but we figure why chance anything.  I pretty much just do what my body tells me right now.  Other than that, just follow a diet as if you are pregnant, drink tons of water and rest as much as possible.

clare207:  How are you feeling?  I just saw you go in on the 17th.  I go on the 14th.  I am so excited and nervous about it.  How many did you transfer?  We did 3, 3 day all 8cell.  I really don't think it is triplets but we'll see.  Are you on a progesterone supplement?  I was on the oil shots but I wasn't reacting to them well so they put me on Crinone, a gel suppository.

BONNIESC:  How are you feeling?  Will you go for another blood test or are they going to wait until the ultrasound?

[HPTFANATIC]

mb789: LOL! You are so right about the hpt. I guess I am just so anxious. I still have another week to go before my pg test. I will hold off on the hpt and focus on something else this week. Congrats on your pg!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Anxious 334:I am so sorry to hear your news as well. However, I agree with mb789. You do not know for sure until you have your blood test. I will pray that you get a positive result.                          

[clare207]

I am feeling rather nervous about the scan because of the cramps and spotting i feel pregnant though if that makes sense my body is telling me to slow down which im trying to do.... I transfered 2 embryos on day 5 not sure what they split into, Im taking cyclogest 400mg pessaries 3 times a day...

How are you feeling about the scan i keep wanting to do hpt just to see that they are still there...

good luck x x xx

[HPTFANATIC]

I just got a call from the nurse. She said that my progesterone level was 49.6. Can anyone explain what exactly this means? She said it was good. That is all she said.

[Bonniesc]

Anious334,

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family!!!

Mb789

I am feeling very good.  I go back on Monday for another HcG lab to check the numbers.  I took another HPT today and it was positive.  I am thinking I just had a late implanter.  Thanks for asking.  How are you doing? I bet you can't wait to see the heartbeat flashing when you go for your 1st scan

Sjoquism, Hopefuly

Thanks for your uplifting words.  How are you ladies doing?  

[stilltrying502]

Welcome to all of the new ladies!  I don't know if this helps anyone, but I just found out on Wednesday that I had BFP, with a count of 107, and on Thursday of 143 (11&12 DPT, 3, 3 day embies) and I had just awful cramps and had some spotting which is why the Dr. let me test early.  I wasn't supposed to test until Monday, but since I thought my period was coming and I was taking a flight on Thursday, they let me go in for the test.  Also, when I was preg with my daughter, I had just awful cramps, just as if my period was starting AND bright red spotting.  This happened through my first trimester and she was very healthy and my pregnancy was uneventful otherwise.  So keep the hope alive.  It seems like it is impossible to believe any signs, so just try to choose that they are all positive.  Trust me, after 5 transfers I know that is easier said than done.  

To you ladies who have had MC.  I am so sorry that you had to suffer through that.  I am more than a little nervous about that.  I thought that all I needed to hear were the words "congratulations" but that was just the beginning.  Now I am so anxious to have more blood tests.  I wish I could do them at home like an HPT. I would be doing them twice a day.  Did any of you who had a MC have any signs or indications that the pregnancy was in danger, or do you remember your beta levels?  I am sorry if that is too painful a question and please forgive me if it is.  While I am traveling I am in a bit of a panic waiting to test again and am finding it a little difficult to celebrate and relax and believe that the tough part is actually over.  My Dr. said my numbers looked just fine and my spotting has stopped, but it is so hard to just sit back and enjoy.

I totally understand what you are saying.  If one more person tells me that they have and unplanned pregnancy I am going to run them over with my car.  It just adds insult to injury.  Plus what does that say about them.  I want to respond "Ya?  You must be an idiot then"  But of course I say congratulation and smile!

[sjoquism]

Gals, I love checking back...it seems like there is always something going on.

Stilltrying502: M/C sucked...Mine was indicated by my Hcg levels.  I never had any bleeding or spotting, but had cramps the whole time -- not sure this really meant anything anyway.  It was after an IUI and the doc couldn't really confirm if it was ectopic or not, but didn't take any chances so I went in for the methotrexate.  I'm an engineer so super anal about asking/recording all of my levels.  My levels were: 12po-199, 14dpo-247 (so this is where we were tipped off that maybe it wasn't a normal preg), 17dpo-263, 19dpo-410, and 21dpo-361.  I went in for metho this day.  I have to say I do feel somewhat lucky though...I was spared the pain that I know others of you have felt when you lost your little one in the 8-9th week or later.  I had a three-week depression and then it took a few months to start feeling normal again...I think I am a sensitive soul as it is...so I can't imagine the alternative.  I am a little jealous of those who haven't had a m/c who can feel just pure excitement at the pregnancy news, but I have to say that no matter what...if I do become preggo, I think I'm still going to let myself be excited.  I mean, that's life right?  Anything can go wrong at any time.  We all are growing so much in our experience and our hardships...I know I am...I would prefer to have it be easy tho!  ;-)  So I would say, bask in your happiness...Enjoy that something miraculous is growing inside you and do your best to hope it works out.  I know its scary (I'm scared too so I can't really say not to be) but you caught me in my optimistic moment.  I'll be thinking of you and I hope everything turns out well!

HPTfanatic: Your progesterone numbers look very good like the nurse said (I'm not a doc tho).  I've been told that we're all taking these blasted progesterone shots in order to maintain our uterine lining so that your little embie has something thick to bury itself into and so that you don't miscarry if for some reason your body doesn't maintain it naturally as well.  I think docs like to see the levels above 20 so you're doing really well.

[sjoquism]

mb789: My preg tests are on Mon and Wed, but I don't get to know the results until Wed.  So I think it will kill me that my doc office knows but will hold of until Wed.  I mean, I understand it...My disappointment in my m/c was because I was told initial results, yay, preggo!  And then two days later, 'oh, well, maybe you will miscarry because your numbers didn't double.'  And thanks so much for the water tip!  It is very dry up here in Minnesota right now and I have been trying to drink enough water...but maybe haven't been trying hard enough.  This morning when I was drying off my face in the shower, there was a bunch of red on the towel!  I had a bloody nose...I NEVER get bloody noses...I grew up in Southern California in the desert and never had bloody noses, so it was a bit of a surprise and an indication that maybe I need to drink more water.  After reading your email I went and filled up my water bottle!  I def don't want that to be the cause of any issues!

My hubbie and I are going out tonight which will be nice...we're going to see Kathy Griffin (a comedian) and do dinner.  So I'm looking forward to some good food, laughs and some nice time with my hubby.  I am so glad to hear you are doing well!  You are like my poster child and mentor!  I hope everything goes for me like it has gone for you!

[sjoquism]

clare207: My RE told me that spotting is perfectly normal and I think the gals here have made good points about the color of the blood.  If its heavy, bright red bleeding there's more to be concerned about (but not necessarily an omen of m/c) and a doctor's call is in order.  If its brownish in color and not very much, then it probably is normal.  If it makes you feel comfortable, call your doc and ask.  I tend to obssess about things and go crazy, so my hubby gets on me to just call the doc...that's what we're paying them thousands of bucks for!  I hope it turns out well for you.  I will send lots of wonderful thoughts your way!

For everyone else, I hope you all are doing as well as you can.  I will pop back in later.

[sasygirl]

HEY EVERYBODY!!

I don't know if this will help, but on my third cycle, I to had brownish colored discharge before HCG and after confirmed pregnancy, and my RE told me that it was called implantation bleeding, some women have it and some do not have it, he also said it is fairly common in a multiples pregnancy.  This is just what my RE told me, so maybe this will give some comfort to you ladies.  

BONNIESC--HEY, I am doing good, I have an appt with my OBGYN doctor, b/c all my ivf procedures are not covered by insurance, and neither is the hysteroscopy they wanted to do.  They wanted over 3 grand for the procedure.  I decided to go see my ob doc and have him run the tests under my insurance.  I have an appt on Friday so I am hopeful to get the ball rolling and find out what might be wrong.  Thanks for asking, it means a lot.  I am so happy you got a big fat positive, I know that it must have been a good feeling to see that pop up! GOOD LUCK AND STILL PRAYING FOR YOU!

SJOQUISM--HEY, glad to hear from you again.  I am from Georgia, I am what you call a good ol southern redneck.  I was happy to see you are going out tonight, that in itself is such a stress reliever.  Not having to think about anything, but laughing and enjoying your husbands company if only for a little while.  I am happy to see your wait is almost over, and I will be sending more prayers your way, and lots of baby dust!!!  GOOD LUCK, HAVE FUN TONIGHT!!!

LJ2005--How are you today??  

HPTFANATIC--WELCOME!!  Best advice you can get from this site is, "No more HPT's", they will drive a sane women crazy.  As if we don't have enough stress right now!!  Good luck and try to relaxe a little, good things come to those who wait.  Cramps are not a bad thing and neither is the discharge.  Some say it is a sign of implantation.  Good Luck on your news, and Prayers your way!!!

CLARE207--How are you today? Congrats on the US day.  I will keep fingers and toes crossed for you.  

[sasygirl]

STILLYTRYING502--How are you doing??  How was your trip??  Good I hope, at least you had some good news before you left.  Congrats again!!

MB789--How are you doing today??  Good I hope, sounds like you have a keeper for a husband.  Mine, I love him to death, but even after transfer, he thought I could just keep doing my daily routines, dishes, laundry, cooking, cleaning (not in a bad way), but he doesn't seem to know what to do if I am out of order.  Keep taking his advice and take it easy. Good luck, and have they scheduled your US yet??  Prayers your way!!

ANXIOUS334--Please don't give up yet.  I hated to see that you were so down on yourself and feeling like, "why go for the results".  I know how you feel about the migrane, I suffered before IVF and worse with the Progesterone.  Tylenol doesn't even take the edge off.  My husband was the same way the first go round and you know what he turned out to be such an awesome support system and I think you ought to share your frustrations with your husband.Just my opinion, but mine really helped me deal with my feelings.  I really don't think you have anything to worry about , I think that the negative monster is playing tricks with your mind. I am praying hard for you and hope you will be feeling better soon!!!  

DEVISTATED--HOW YA DOING GIRLY??  Hope your day was a good one.  I finally got a return call from my RE office today regarding the price of the hysteroscopy (only a mere 3 grand) I almost choked, no thanks I said.  I will let my overly priced insurance company pay for it.  Well, what you doing this weekend?? Anything good??  I know I am nosey, but I just want to know who out there has a more exciting life then mine. Talk at you soon...

[sasygirl]

OMG--SO GLAD TO FREAKING HERE FROM YOU.  Just who do you think you are young lady, you scared the BEJESUS out of me.  I was so happy to hear from you that I almost peed in my pants.  Anyway, How are you doing?  I am sorry for your news, but sure you have heard that a lot, so I will say, welcome to another round of IVF, and aren't we just so lucky, we get to do it together.  I was happy to see that the other nurse said you could start in 28 days.  I thought that was the case, but things seem so different over there.   I hope we will be starting it together, I am not sure, b/c I will have to have some tests run before I will agree to another round.  I was laughing at your comments on the song, isn't it amazing how something so simple as a song can trigger such a wonderful fighting emotion.  I agree, nothing will stop us!!  I was sorry to hear you weren't feeling good.  Periods suck!!!  I have had mine since Sunday, and finally it is easing some.  

Glad you laughed at my story of the old librarians.  I am a very vocal person and I love to be social with new people, but when she just stared at me with a blank look, I thought this will be a long year of volunteering if she doen't open up some.

Can you believe all the new ladies, isn't it awesome, so many to chat with.  

I will be joining you on the wine tonight, and I will be thinking of our up and coming cycles.  I look forward to taking the journey with you my friend, but want to warn you, if you ever disappear like that again, I will hunt you down in Ireland and give you a swift kick in the buttocks!!!  Hee, hee!!  Have a wonderful night and I am so happy to have heard from you.  Prayers your way!!!  xo xo

Erica

[DEVISTATED]

Hi, I'm glad you have an appointment for next Friday. So 3 grand, no sweat, what do they think we are? I guess you'll have to rob a bank or hey maybe you could ask the weird Librarian for a loan. HA HA. I am lucky my insurance covers everything, NJ passed an ACT called the Family Builders Act and they have to cover infertility if you work for a company that employs 300 or more. I only have to pay a 15
dollar co-pay. But the twist to this story is they only cover 4 IVF treatments per life time. I say 4 the Hubby thinks it might be 6 per life time. We have to call the Insurance co. and double check. (It's on the list) IUI's are unlimited. I'm not sure I could afford one treatment let alone five or six if I didn't have insurance.
Anyway whatever the case may be, I'm glad you are doing this again.
I'm working this weekend, I had to switch my schedule around to get coverage for next week. My doctor called today and changed the day of transfer, it is now on Wednesday. So I took next Wed-Sunday off. I need to finish decorating for Halloween, I only have to do the outside. Maybe I can talk the hubby into it this weekend while I'm working. It rained all last weekend so he couldn't do anything outside, we still have to close our pool. (it's gross, all green and leafy)
I was glad to hear from Hopefulx she sounds Good. I'll talk to you later, Have a good weekend. Linda

[DEVISTATED]

Hello my friend, I'm glad you are in good spirits. I am sorry for your negative. Even know deep down you probably knew it, that doesn't make it any easier. So you might be able to do another one in 28 days? That's great, that sounds more like it. I saw that movie Mannequin and that song is perfect. Can you believe all of the new ladies on this site. It is wonderful, so many kind words and so much knowledge.
My doctor changed my transfer day to Wednesday, so I'm gonna take off work Wed-Sunday next week. Just to relax and not jump back into things, kind of like a mini vacation. Remember we don't want to call it a vacation cause that will drive me insane, you know what I'm talking about. So we will call it a couple of days off!!!! We are gonna get there, I just know it. None of us know each other, but there is a strong bond between women who face a challenge such as this. You are probably done your bottle of wine by now, so I can't say have a drink for me. Maybe next time. Talk to you soon. Linda

[Bonniesc]

Good luck with your OB doc on Friday.  That sum of Monday you talked about is crazy!!! I hope your ob has answers for you.  I am still praying for you everyday.  Yes  it did feel good to get the big fat Positive however I am not sure if I should be excited or not.  I do not want to jinx it or anything.  I hope you have a relaxing weekend.  I have to do homework online with school this is my last week in my current class.  Next week I start a brand new one.    

[Bonniesc]

I will be thinking of you on Wednesday during your transfer.  You just make sure you relax and take it easy on your days off!!!! keep your spirts high and stay positive. I will be praying for you.  Bonnie

[sasygirl]

DEVISTATED--OMG--WOW, WOW WEDNESDAY!!  I am so happy for you, I will be praying for you all weekend!!!  You are so lucky to have coverage, I have just been blessed to have married a man with a great mind, when it comes to saving.  Although we have almost depleated that now.  I hope you have a safe weekend.  Good luck on the decorating and pool cleaning....see what a little sweet talking will get you from that husband....have a good one.....AGAIN I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!  PRAYERS TO YOU!!

BONNIESC--Thank you so much for the vote of confidence.  I am a little worried at what they will find, but I am hopeful that it can be cured before I go through another cycle.  That money was crazy, Hunh?  I couldn't believe it, and then if I would have spent it and they would not have found anything I would have been furious.  Well, school work, whatcha studying???  At least that helps occupy your time a little.  I know how you feel about the whole jinxing thing, but I think is is OK to be a little overly excited, after all we have been through.  Well, good luck with the homework, and prayers your way!!!

Erica

[Bonniesc]

Yes, the money was crazy and then to go through all that again I would be furious too.  Good judgement on your part.  Good things come to those who wait.  Things come to us on God's time.  Even though we would want it sooner.  I I am actually working on my BA in organizational management/psychology.  I will graduate July 2009.  I cannot wait it has been a long and enjoyable journey.  I hope you have a great weekend and try to relax and keep your spirts high.  Prayers your way too.  

[Bonniesc]

I got up this morning and went to the bathroom and to my surprise I wiped and had a little blood.  (kinda like a spotty thing) I am freaking out. Is this a bad sign.   Can anyone help?

[clare207]

Hi,

I am going throught the same at the mo as long as it is brown in colour you are fine just lots of rest for you I have been spotting for 4 days now i feel ok and the clinic is not concerned the only thing they said was to up my progesterone by 1 a day. You will be fine x x

[Cookie321]

I have been going through this post...lots of great info...I am on day 6 after transfer of one ok embyro on day 3.  I have been getting cramps and yesterday I was just in the mall looking to buy the perfect purse to lift me up and I got this one real wicked cramp from my belly button down.  I had to sit down and decided enough shopping but after I bought my purse. :)  

I do know the progesterone can cause some of the cramping because the uterine wall is thicking but also getting some pain going down my legs.  Has anyone ever got the odd sharp cramp?

Well the waiting game.  I am reading thru here that many of you take pregnancy tests before the 2ww..I am the opposite I stay away from them...to much courage needed.  So envy you guys.  

Well thanks for listening.

[sjoquism]

So ladies, I almost broke down and did it!  I woke up this morning feeling like my normal self and I thought, why don't I just take an HPT so I know?  As I mentioned before my cramps mostly stopped...I should say that yesterday afternoon they started to come back a little and then last night I had a couple strong ones.  I then went to the bathroom and saw one small brownish spot.  I feel like 5dp5dt is too late to be seeing any spotting...and I didn't see any spotting last time I was preg.  I saw another couple of spots later in the night too.  Maybe my period wants to break out?  I am just not feeling any twinges of other symptoms.  My boobs are a little sore, but I'm pretty sure that's the progesterone.  They don't feel larger than normal or veiny. I'm just feeling normal.  What do you gals think?  Is it too early to take an hpt?  My Hcg shot was 2 weeks ago, the the lingering effects of that should be gone by now.  Help!

[Bonniesc]

You can do a HPT i suppose however it might still be to early.  Hope this helps alittle.  I am sure some of the others ladies can help you more.  

[Bonniesc]

Thanks for your information.  I have not experienced anymore spotting right now.  I go back Monday for another HCG test to check my levels.  

[mb789]

Bonniesc and Clare207:  Don't worry about the spotting unless it is bright red.  There are so many reasons women spot during the first trimester.  Make sure you both take it easy, put yourself on pelvic rest and be lazy this weekend!

Cookie321:  Welcome.  I love purse shopping!!!  Congrats on your transfer, good luck with the 2ww, its no fun!  Is this your first IVF?

Sjoquism:  DON'T DO IT!!!!  The Hcg from your shot is out by now but it is too early.  Don't stress about not feeling anything.  Just think, if you weren't trying to get pregnant and weren't going through this hell, you wouldn''t even think twice about any of this. We are so hyper sensitive with every twinge, cramp, etc. that we drive ourselves insane! Most women do not even know until 4-5 weeks that they are pregnant.  Stay strong, remember even though it could be a false negative it could also be a false positive, don't do that to yourself.

I got an email today from a good friend that I thought was perfect for all of us, here it is...
To:                YOU
Date:            TODAY
From:           GOD
Subject:       YOURSELF
Reference:   LIFE

This is God.  Today I will be handling All of your problems for you.  I do Not need your help.  So, have a nice day.
I love you.


P.S.  And, remember...
If life happens to deliver a situation to you that you cannot handle, do Not attempt to resolve it yourself!  Kindly put it in the SFGTD (something for God to do) box. I will get to it in MY TIME.  All situations will be resolved, but in My time, not yours.  

Once the matter is placed into the box, do not hold onto it by worrying about it.  Instead, focus on all the wonderful things that are present in your life now.


Should you decide to send this to a friend; Thank you. You may have touched their life in ways you will never know!

Now, you have a nice day.
                          God

[LJ2005]

Hello girls!

There has been so much going on with everyone I can't even keep up!  Again, this site has been a blessing with the support and encouragement.  You guys are great!  

Anxious334, I have been thinking a lot about you lately and I hope you are doing alright.  Are you going to go to your appointment on Monday?  I sure hope you do and I will pray for God to give you strength and lots of hugs.  

Today was my first day of getting out of the house for a while and it felt great.  I've been going crazy trying to "take it easy" and stay off my feet.  I am normally running at the park almost daily so it's been a challange for me.  It is nothing compared to the hopeful good results to come.  I have been extremely emotional lately...crying about the thought of my test results coming in this tuesday.  It is my husband's college homecoming today and we went to a parade this afternoon.  There were so many adorable kids running around getting candy and stuff.  Just being around kids makes me long for that so much more.  

I'll be praying for everyone.  Take care, Lindsey

[Bonniesc]

Thanks for those awesome words.  I have heard that before but today I really needed to hear them.  I am trying not to worry and think it is normal but then I get scared.  AFter reading your words about God I think I will relax now.  I will wait till Monday and i will get  my lab done again.  Take care