Sudden onset of skin wrinkling and sagging in arms - Menopause

Nancy71060

Sep 11, 2011

To: Rosina

Which supplement are you taking that is similar to A-65 cycloastragenol?

Rosina1952

Sep 11, 2011

To: MsDaisyDee

That is a very good question. I use a product for a couple of months - to four months and check carefully for any hint of improvement. So far, none.

Nancy, I am taking LivLong. It is 5 mg cycloastragenol, 35 mg astragaloside IV 98%, Astragalus membranaceus 0.5% 250 mg.

TerrinPhx

Sep 12, 2011

To: rosina1952

I've posted here before about the overnight development of wrinkly,crepey skin on my thighs. I definately think that it is hormone related. I began taking DHEA about 3 months ago and I feel sooooo much better in regards to sleep and regulating my periods. I also began derma rolling (skin needling) and have seen a remarkable improvement. The skin is thickening and the wrinkles are less noticeable. The most noticeable difference for me personally is that the "frost" (or fish scale) appearance is completely gone and my skin now has a smooth texture. I am able to wear shorts again. I've "rolled" twice now and I cannot believe the difference. I don't have the appearance of 20 yr old skin, but I would say that there is at least a 50% improvement. I read about skin needling on another site and use a 1.5mm roller with vitamin c serum and a good moisturizer.

whitedog57

Sep 12, 2011

To: Terrin

I've heard good things about the derma roller....do the needles ever puncture the skin?

Magaluf

Sep 18, 2011

I so know how you're feeling. I just hate the way my body is not in tune with the way I feel. I am active and leave women half my age standing but I'm not happy with the way I look. Tried all the lotions and potions but nothing seems to make me look the way I feel.

TerrinPhx

Sep 19, 2011

To: whitedog57

The needles do puncture the skin - that's how it works, the premise of skin needling is that the "wound" puts the body in a repair mode and produces collagen and elastin to the areas treated. This thickens the dermis and also the collagen layers. It's not a painfree treatment, but it is tolerable and it gets easier as you go.

di523

Sep 19, 2011

This may sound silly, but I'm so grateful that I stumbled upon this site as I thought I was the only woman under 70 years old who was experiencing this saggy arm problem. I am, otherwise, a very young looking 58 year old (5'4", 110 lbs). About 3 years ago, I actually had a mini-arm lift, hoping this was the answer to my (then) fairly slight arm sagging problem. Within 6 months, I thought my arms looked WORSE than before, with more sagging and cellulite. Because I am so embarrassed about my arms, I have spent countless hours shopping for tops that would cover my arms, but be cool enough to wear during warm weather. I used to wear more "form-fitted" sleeveless tops or tanks, but now wear lightweight, blousy tops that have a flowy sleeve or dolman sleeve that covers the problem area. I also have a couple of tops that have an opening from the top of the shoulder to the elbow, but the inside arm is covered. I am constantly looking at other women's arms and comparing mine (usually disappointedly) with theirs. This has affected how I feel about going on vacations and even where we might retire (for fear it will be even warmer than where I live in Southern California). Every summer we get together for a week with our best friends from out-of-state, and I worry so much how I am going to stylishly hide my arms (my friend, who is my age, has gorgeous arms; and although she hasn't mentioned my change in style, I'm sure she has noticed). We went on a cruise, and it was next to impossible to find a formal I liked without getting one with a jacket. I hate how much time I have spent worrying about this and hope that in another 5 years or so I will just learn to accept this and not think about anymore. I appreciate being able to spill my guts here as I have never mentioned this to anyone (my husband doesn't even know how I feel about this).

henkimley

Oct 03, 2011

To: rosina, everyone

What do you knoow about the derma roller?

nocozzy

Oct 09, 2011

To: All

I think these arms are past the point of dermarolling & any other firming cream known to man, have tried the pinching & massaging, so I've made up my mind to go & see a Plastic Surgeon & find out once & for all if there is anythng they can do. I cannot go without long sleeves anymore & now that summer is coming I am absolutely desperate. These arms are getting worse by the month, hate to think what I will look like when I'm in my 60s.

notonly1

Oct 10, 2011

I'm so glad you wrote you had a mini arm lift and that it looked even worse 6 months later. I'm sorry you had to go through it, though. I went to a plastic surgeon and he said I don't have enough skin to cut. I thought...does he need glasses? Thanks to your statement I'm not going for an arm lift. I was going to google it after I googled loose upper arm skin which is how I got to this site. I'm so amazed to read about all these women with fit bodies, youthful looks, & some near my age ...like you.... 57. I'm actually smiling because most all are describing the same problem I'm having..especially when I read "suddenly". My smiling is because all of you ladies and the one gent (I've only read 15 and yours) "amattc" who wrote his arms & neck look decades older than the rest of himself and it happened over night" is how I feel. He relieved me when he said he was a high protein eater. I thought maybe that's what I needed. So, that's not it, either. I'm very, very disappointed about my upper arm skin when the rest of me looks 35-40. Just like all of you I obsess over it when I look in the mirror. Unlike most of you, I am not going to change my tight tops and sleeveless tops or stop wearing sleeveless fancy dresses. I dance and it gets very hot. I live in Florida and I love the heat & humidity. Come to think of it...so far I've not had anyone look at my arms meaning their eyes are not drawn to it. Their eyes are drawn to the definition I have left. I didn't think to look at other women's arms. That I must say I wish I had not read. I will be looking, now. I wonder what is going on with us with loose upper arm skin but otherwise quite young looking. I will say in reading someone's comment... she wrote she was glad she had moving arms. That puts a new light on it for me for the 1st time. As a child and teen I had to feed my aunt. At age 23 with two very young children she developed MS. As the yrs passed she quickly became blind, no longer heard, no body part moved except her jaw and neck a little but with much effort. The only thing I ever heard from her was moaning as in crying. She could sense who walked into the room by their type footsteps. She would cry when I walked in and my grandmother would have to console her. In reading that one woman was, at least, glad she could move her arms is what made me think of my aunt suffering like that for 20 yrs. In fact, I was 17 when she died. That was exactly 40 yrs ago I just realized. I've just now decided to accept my wrinkly inner upper arms. What a wonderful life we have, though, our upper arms are unusually wrinkly if we compare it to not being able to move our arms. Think of not moving your whole body for two decades being 100% helpless and not any way to communication with a living soul. She could not even move her arms for sign language. I just looked back to see the name of the woman who wrote she was glad she could move her arms......and as I reread it she compared it to a woman she knew who had "MS"! It's "Rosina 1952" replying back to 'Agehater"! Thank you for sharing what enlightened me as to how good I have it "arm" wise. Please, please ladies do not distress yourselves stating you are "depressed". Depression is a big word with an entirely different meaning. If you ever had depression in it's real sense you would not use that word. I doubt any of you ladies would commit suicide over your arms being wrinkly. Depression and suicide go hand in hand ... most people worry that the depressed loved one will not take their life. My father had two siblings. They each had what most people think of as having it all. At 67 my aunt slit her wrist and slit her throat in the ocean. At 73 my uncle jumped seven stories onto a city sidewalk. They were each depressed. If you are not "depressed" about your wrinkled arms it's more like being mad, upset, sad, or disappointed etc., correct? If you are, though, get to a Dr, immediately. Another woman wrote she used Hormone Replacement Therapy and that didn't work. HRT isn't something I'd use due to too many cancer stories, but, I'm glad to know not even that works. One of the two plastic surgeons said maybe I need testosterone. This past week I mentioned what he said to my Dr during my well-woman visit after I showed my Dr my skin on my upper arms. So, it bothered me that much. My Dr wondered what the other Dr would be talking about. I told her he said to get a hormone blood test. She asked me if I needed testosterone would I take it. Since she knows me well she knew I would say no. So we didn't do a hormone blood test. "Agehater" wrote she decided to bust her *** to tone her skin. She said her arms..after all she did... looked like that of an 80 yr. old woman. Thanks for writing that, Agehater. I don't think I'll do the following (and I never go to a gym, anyway) Just tonight I wrote on my calendar Jan.9th, 2012 is 3 months of my 12 lb wts doing 30 straight up (deltoids) & 30 curls (biceps).....don't anyone come down on me, please, that's what I did 3 times a week 13 yrs ago and my upper arms..deltoids and biceps within 3 months popped up...with 8 lb weights & made me look like I was "Mrs.Clean". I was 46. Now I'm 57. Two days ago when I said to a 20 some yr old that I was 57 he, sincerely, said he would have never guessed that. It was in a highly lit store. I told him in the dim lights where I dance I'm told I must be 34, 35. I reply with 'Your'e a good guesser". I have a photo of me 5/2000 with my arms folded & can't believe how large & defined my arm muscles look. That's where I look like "Mrs. Clean". :0 Yes, I thought I was the only thin, toned, & very young looking woman with wrinkly inner upper arms which happened "over night". Three yrs ago is when I 1st noticed those under arm pit wrinkles. Three yrs later my inner arms and my inner elbow show the same embarrassing wrinkles. So all that much more, now, shows. After I finish this enormous comment (sorry) I will go to You-tube to view the video that "Tinyo 8/2/11" wrote about. Thank you for that, Tinyo. "Agehater", please do not be offended with all that I will say. As for God there are far more important things to hope for. You are almost 10 yrs younger than I, therefore, I have a decade of wisdom on you..if I may say so. In stating this I am referring to what you wrote in your own words: " I am married 30 years, my husband works in Manhattan, NY, he sees all these young gorgeous women..I hate for him to come home and see my aging ugly arm and cleavage". Agehater, congratulations on your marriage still in tact at 30 yrs. Mine was 21 yrs which ended exactly ten years ago this month with the judge saying: "I, now, pronounce you divorced." I felt so sad to hear those words after having heard "I, now, pronounce you husband and wife." She said it well. My point, Agehater : please appreciate deeply that you are still married at a rare long time marriage of 30 years. Think about it.....do you truly think your husband of 30 yrs even sees your 'ugly aging arms and cleavage'? I think he sees his wife as gorgeous all over inside and out and realizes nobody can defy age. Heed comfort in knowing you have your long term husband to grow old with. Your family is intact. Mine is, sadly, out of whack.

evie51

Oct 10, 2011

To: tinyo

How much copper and zinc do you take?

I am loosing muscle tone in my upper arms,
back of legs, and under chin. I am on hgh
shots once a day but that doesn't seem to
be helping. I have been to a naturalist and he
tells me that I have a thryoid problem but none
of my doctors will support that. The keep telling
me that my cordisol is high and my pituritary gland
is working properly. I am also loosing my hair but
they don't seem to concerned about that either.

Mish327

Oct 12, 2011

Hello Everyone,

OMG, I am really glad I stumbled across this forum. Like all of you, I seemed to have aged 10 years in the past 4 months! I'm 52 years old. In 2005 my son was killed by a drunk driver and that took a big toll on me. Up until then I always looked 10 years younger. Well, aside from that aging me now I have noticed that due to the rapid weight loss I have acquired deep lines around my mouth that I know I didn't have in June. I also have developed the crepe skin in my upper arms and upper thighs, UGH! It's really ugly! At least it makes me feel a little better that I'm not alone. Really, it;s like my father used to always tell me, "Age is the great divider, it doesn't matter how beautiful you are, someday you are going to get old." Thanks Dad.

MissCalle

Oct 12, 2011

To: Mish327

First of all I want to express my sympathy regarding the tragic loss of your son. I'm sure stress has played a part in the aging process. Rapid weight loss plays a part too. I was always thin and due to a health issue I lost 20 lbs. over a short period of time. It was then that I noticed the wrinkling of the skin in my arms just appear literally overnight. I went from a size 10 to a size 4. Of course the loss of estrogen as we age is involved here too. My friends, who are a few years younger than I, were always amazed at how my face stayed wrinkle free. Well, that has changed also. Suddenly I see this stranger in the mirror! I wish I could say that it doesn't bother me, but its very upsetting. Creams, serums, lotions.....none of them really do what they claim. I think they are out there just to make us feel like we're "doing something." I must say that you look terrific in your picture. We are all probably being too harsh on ourselves. Doesn't make it any easier to deal with. Linda Evans was on the Today Show this morning and my daughter remarked at how weird it is to see 70 year old women trying to look 40. I told her that she shouldn't judge until she reaches that age herself. lol!

di523

Oct 13, 2011

I certainly agree that there are more important issues in our lives than fretting about sagging arms, and I remind myself of that fact when I am being overly concerned about the way they look and how I can cover them during warm weather. I do appreciate all of the blessings I have, and wish I could just accept this and not worry about it anymore.

I also agree that most people would not be looking specifically at my arms, except other women who have the same issue...just like I do not even notice other's eye "bags", double chins, or thinning hair (since these are not MY problem areas). AND, if someone were to mention their trouble spots to me, I would probably advise them not to even worry about it, that it truly isn't a problem, and life is too short to waste time being unhappy about it.

That being said, today I am wearing a sleeveless top for the first time in 3 years. True, I don't plan on running into anyone, but it is my first babystep in learning to accept it. I know, this sounds pretty ridiculous; but I'm sure some of you can relate. As I said in my previous post, I have not mentioned my "ugly secret" to anyone; and I appreciate having this forum!

zenmama

Oct 16, 2011

I am an acupuncturist and have found over the many years that needling the wrinkles in the face along with the little pouches have helped tremendously. It is an instant facial uplift. When I turned 60 a few years ago, I too found the crepey skin starting to occur on the inside of the upper arms and thighs. I do have good genes and don't look my age otherwise. I'm sure that it will one day catch up with me.

My office partner is a nurse that does laser and microdermabrasions. They both help. We are a generation of young looking wannabees. I can't blame anyone for that. As long as you feel well, go for it in any safe way possible. I am sure the dermrollers with the needles would help as long as no infections occur. It helps to promote the collagen growth.

madi321

Oct 17, 2011

Order and read the book "The solution to the danger of modern nutrition". by Hardick, Roberto, & Lerner. You will learn how to get your body back in balance so that it will be well enough nutritionally and metabolically to keep hormones and just overall function optimally healthy and in check... part of the book talks about toxicity in our foods, personal products, and environment which contribute to disease and looking old before our time. If you seriously change your nutrition, your skin will reflect your new informed good choices. ***************.com promotes these principles if you want help. Good luck. Also don't be embarrassed about checking on "beauty treatments" like fractionated laser treatments -- it helps regenerate new skins and collagen. Google that too. (I did my face 6 mo.s ago and it was subtle, but still helpful and noticeable in a good way to myself and a few others... Which is nice because they're not sure why, at 54, I still look so young for my age. :) Buuut, the crepiness in the folds of my elbows and the tops of my thighs came on fast in the last month or so. I'm determined thru maximized living and a little laser therapy to address the issue to stay as young as I can for as long as I can. You could also ask for a strong personally made topical peeling lotion from your cosmetic laser surgery doctor as well. Best if luck.

alrone

Oct 18, 2011

To: All

This HAS to be a genetic issue. I am 51 years young, blonde hair, fair skin, blue eyes, of Scandinavian decent. My skin had always been dry and thin, but extreme wrinkling and sagging did literally occur over night this year. I always looked younger than my years, and still do if fully clothed. Oh, and people do notice! My niece wondered aloud why her mom (a year younger than I) looked so much younger due to my arm wrinkles. My mother-in-law, who is almost 80 and smoked most of her adult life, is 50 pounds over weight, and eats a high sodium/processed food diet has younger looking skin and less wrinkles on her arms and legs than I do. So, my life of moderate sun, non-smoking, eating organic / balanced diet, and keeping physically fit has given me the oldest looking arms and knees! Yet others I know who are in the sun more than I, smoke, and have unhealthy lifestyles still look amazing. One thing I will not do is give up on wearing shorts or sleeveless tops, even though I know my skin looks awful. It is bad enough going through menopause and being hot all the time – I don’t think I could handle having long sleeves and pants on during my hot flashes!

msjfitz

Nov 02, 2011

To: Former Cipro users and all

I have aged what looks to be 15 years practically overnite. I also had been told that I looked great for my age...until about 2 years ago. I had a mastectomy, but no chemo. However I did develop a pseudomonis infection in my right breast after one of the tissue expanders was put in. My "sudden aging" had doctors and friends attribute this to my age and the surgeries. I am 55 years old. While I know these things can have a profound impact, nothing would prepare anyone for the destruction that occurred after I took Cipro for two months for the infection. I first noticed deep creases develop on my forehead and cheeks. Then my cheeks began to sag along with my upper arms and even below the elbow. Also my upper thighs started wrinkling, crinkling and sagging. I never put this together with the Cipro until I read other comments on this site. I, like many, eat well and exercise. I know some people think this is just a cosmetic issue, but when you age 10-15 years in a matter of a month it can have a devastating effect on your self esteem. Oh and I forgot to mention that I also developed muscle twitches and other symptoms after taking Cipro.

50yroldBarbieDoll

Nov 02, 2011

To: Everyone

Look for a diet that keeps you LDL down, also minimize foods containing gluten, Vit D5 gels, B vitamins, Triple Omega's also. A good work out regime is always a compliment, not heavy weights just exercise and some 1 or 2 lbs is okay. On Oz website there is a little quick video from the guy who did the px 90 and he put a special video on there on how to keep firm. Drink lots of water, with minerals if possible, take good anti oxidants and don't forget to alter your veggies and eat fruit daily. As for the face: See a doc that isn't afraid to give you a cheap Retinol A or I also agree with the lazer resurfacing. I'm sure you'd be pleased.

Oh, and if you are looking for the edge, here are the key ingredients in the ta 65 that may be useful, I'm not really sure as I haven't tried it yet, and am looking for the ingredients cheaper than offered.

Cycloastragenol 5 mg
Astragaloside IV (98%) 35 mg
Astragalus Membranaceus 0.5% 250 mg

stjohngirl

Nov 08, 2011

I just read that mesotherapy stimulates hair growth, for ladies with hair loss issues. My issue is the sagging inner arms. My face is relatively unlined, its my arms that give my age away 56. I hate it but feel lucky that it didn't happen in my 40s. The laser treatment sounds interesting. But I have to go low cost now as I'm recently unemployed. Need to do something tho for self esteem. My 15 yrs younger boyfriend just left me for a younger woman. Between that and no job I'm kind of depressed. But I do walk every day and lost 20 lbs which makes me feel better but contributes to saggy arms. I also live in the tropics so no long sleeves for me.

PCFL416

Nov 13, 2011

I have just turned 67, started noticing the crepry, saggy skin on my upper arm around 65, now it is progressing down to my lower arm. I talked to a trainer and a plastic surgeron, they both said it was just the aging process. Other than this part of my body, I am told I appear to be in my early to mid 50's. I, like most all of you have began wearing and shopping for shirts or tops with longer sleeves or that will cover my upper arm. I have also been treated with the antibotic (antibiotic) Cipro in the last three years for sinitius infections, by reading the other comments there seems to be a common thread to taking this medicine. After reading all the comments I am going to try the needling,Livlong Supplement, pinching and massaging my arms daily and the suggested lotions. Will let you all know if by summer whether I have seen any improvement. Am glad I happened upon this website, makes me feel a little better to know that I am not alone in this.

waslim

Nov 13, 2011

To: urkiddenme

hahahahahahaha you sound like me. It was soooooo quick - the change. I still have all the size 8 clothes and am wearing 14's ( I bought 2 pairs of pants and 2 shirts for work) till I fit in them again. as if ............ I could cry and my new boyfriend tells me I look beautiful and I know he is lying so I think I will break up with him. Can't stand liers lol. He is probably too scared to tell me I have lumps and bumps ALL OVER THE PLACE. I didnt know TOES GOT FAT. I hate this and I am now running again every day and squeezing the fat lumps as I run. It is insane. I am so mad

bernie917

Nov 18, 2011

To: waslim

oh my goodness...your comments about your boyfriend gave me a much needed laugh...can't stand liars...it's so rich!! i've been thinking for the past 8 weeks that i was pregnant, but alas it appears that i'm beginning menopause. i just got married 8 weeks ago so this present really *****!! but life has to go on and this website has given me great tips and ideas...and a much needed laugh...

Skinnylynny

Nov 20, 2011

To: Concha 100 et all

Hi, I think there may be a connection to the quinolones. A couple years ago when I was 57, I was prescribed Levaquin for a bacterially infected insect bite. It was after that that I started to see my skin thin and my flesh to get that loose " old lady " quality. It is depressing enough that it causes me to isolate myself and forget about dating! I see my mother in the mirror every day now and I just want to crawl back in bed and die. Before all this started, I always looked 15 to 20 yrs younger than my age. I don't smoke or drink and although I did get sun exposure, it was all up north in alaska and montana. I am strugging with my self image and am losing the battle as I am a widow with no family. Meanwhile, the ex boyfriend has married an asian woman 20 yrs myand his junior! And makes sure I know how " funny she is" and how happy he is. Sometimes I just want to cut this life short.

ConnyMommy

Nov 20, 2011

Well,he was not worth your time. I have posted here before. I keep checking back for miracle cures-nothing yet. I have spent hours on internet researching this problem. Do not give up! I too am in a low state. I recently was freed from an ex-husband who finally remarried. Now I am starting to think how nice to have a loving man in my life and the body looks like someone 10 years older. Healthy all my life, health conscious, vitamins, exercise, bike riding, hiking, fishing, beach, never fat and now what do I have to show for it-saggy arms and legs, formerly my glory. I have started an intensive bike riding routine and will be supplementing heavily with amino acids (glutamine, argine, lysine) along with creatine. At 59 I really do not want to settle for being the young chick of someone 75 years old. Mentally tho this is affecting me big time. I can avoid the mirrors but cannot avoid glancing at my arms &legs. Living in coastal Florida you really cannot dress any other ways. I even went to my doctor who works with antiaging and was told I was the healthiest person he had seen that day. Ifonly he could have peered into my brain!

MsDaisyee

Nov 21, 2011

To: All

I took cipro several times over several years for a chronic condition.. It never made my arms saggy or wrinkly. My arms started sagging long after using cipro, so for me it didn't seem related but that's not to say that it can't cause these affects in some people.

Sniper1973

Dec 11, 2011

To: Thank you

I just want to say thank you so much for all of you. I know we do not know each other but your stories have helped me mentally. Im 38 and everyone always ALWAYS have said I could pass for in my 20's. Like most on here it hit overnight and I am ashamed to show off my arms. As one person stated on here though I am thankfull to have have them to complain about. (That re-kindled that sense of "thanks" we or at least I tend to forget) thank you for that. I am getting ready to try out a few things and have saved under "favorites" Im going to help us!!! Somehow, I am going to see if I can reverse, heal something........I will get back in few weeks. All of you on here are pretty because I can feel it when I read your stories. Do NOT let anyone or this "PROBLEM" we have take that away. Good luck to everyone and please keep posting and hopefully somebody will come up w/a solution. Have a great night.

ConnyMommy

Dec 20, 2011

Has anyone here tried the galvanic spa. My doctor told me about it as his wife uses one. Pricey at over $3oo but I'd pay for help with this sag that is growing worse as months go by

ditsyblonde

Dec 23, 2011

To: All

Whilst googling for a cure for crepey skin I came across this site and now nearly accept this is more or less inevitable consequence of my 64 yrs.It came on soo quick I couldnt believe it!I Only came back from a holiday in October and certainly my inner thighs showed little signs of crepiness but just a few weeks later crepiness has attacked with a vengence.I did feel like 1 of the chosen few before because I do look good for my age.Now not so smug and I am on holiday again in 3 weeks but it seems the short shorts might only be only used as a duster.It's not nice but as 1 lady commented there are a lot worse things and I am going to count my blessings.Still if anyone knows of a cure I'll be first in the queue!

MissCalle

Dec 24, 2011

To: rockymtn100

I agree that there are worse things. But, when it just appears almost overnight its a real shock. I'm having trouble realizing that the person in the mirror is still me! I think that people who have been blessed with keeping their good looks into their 60's get a false sense of "we'll always stay this way", silly as it sounds. I just thought it was a very gradual process and that the sagging and wrinkling wouldn't even start until in my 70's. Sigh....well as with every other phase of our lives, we just have to try and accept it, but as "ditsy" above says, we can always keep our eyes open for any miracles to help us improve what we don't like. Merry Christmas to all and a healthy and happy New Year.

jan2244

Dec 29, 2011

To: all

Perhaps, our skin issues are meant for us to concentrate on (as hard as this might be) our smiles. After all, a great smile is what people notice first
and may even be what they remember last. Maybe a 'for real' smile will help soften the lines and lackluster the sags. If anything, efforts towards a better smile should minimize the concern for less- than- better skin. We can at least control the quality of our smiles!

ConnyMommy

Jan 03, 2012

I wonder how many here are blond and slim? Been talking to the advising Doctor at the Life Extension (Ft. Lauderdale, FL).They offer blood testing to their members and monitor the results. High levels of SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) seem to be more common in slender females. SHBG has a high affinity for testosterone, possibly leading to muscle loss. So is it muscle loss along with sagging skin, loss of connective tissue, i.e collegen? Low levels of growth hormone also not good. Looking for miracle here. He recommended nettle root to free up the testosterone. I have also started arginine, lysine, and glutamine to stimulate more GH . Time will tell, but time is running out at 59. I do not want to be a skin bag.

MissCalle

Jan 04, 2012

To: ConnyMommy

Hmmm, very interesting. I am blond and thin....well very gray now thanks to mother nature and father time, but am fighting that with the help of my hair stylist! lol! If it were only as easy to fight the saggy baggy monster that has found us. What makes it doubly hard is that I am sensitive to meds and supplements so new theories may be tough for me to try. A magic wand would be very welcome about now.

60gg

Jan 05, 2012

Eat healthy, exercise, don't smoke, don't drink too much, stay out of the sun unless you're wearing a good sunblock, and smile a lot. I'm a hospice nurse, 60 years old, some wrinkles, took Levaquin and have been fighting achilles tendonitis for a year because of it (much worse than being wrinkled), but am so thankful that I'm alive to watch my skin age. We're still worthwhile---even wrinkled:) And there's no magic cure for aging, not even plastic surgery (which makes you look, um, plastic). Don't worry---be happy.

60gg

Jan 05, 2012

To: jan2244

Amen!

kayjai

Jan 10, 2012

To: Skinnylynny

help. I just finished a third round of cipro.

kayjai

Jan 10, 2012

To: anyone

Heres my story. Female, 63. Athletic, had been in great health untill. 4.5 years ago, hair started falling out, then unexplained weight loss, next loose skin{NOT from weight loss, as the loose skin came about 1 year after the weight loss. after 15 different doctors and many many labs, etc. No answers. As of today, half the weight has come back, but hair loss continues, waxes and wanes but mostly bad. skin has gotten soooo bad. before my skin was good, firm arms and legs. now it is so loose, crepy, wrinkled. The past 2 years have been the worse with each year more progressive. my skin is so thin, I can stretch it far. None of my sisters have this, and i have been the most fit until this. Took cypro with my very first uti in 2004. Never noticed anything dramatic after taking it. Then this year I had 22 uti's. one in Sept. and one just a week ago. Cypro both times. After the sept cypro, I had a couple experiences of balance. Hair started to fall more. Now I just found this web site and am freaked because I just finished a round of cypro. Has anyone also experience unexplained weight loss? I am so depressed. The loose thin crepey skin keeps getting worse. my hair is soooo thin. Nothing is stopping. i'm always anxious, also have joint pain in my thumb area for last 3 months. Doctor did the tuning fork vibration test on my feet and I felt nothing. He can't explain it. Will this ever stop? You all know how it has changed your life. It's like a nightmare and I wish i could wake up. Why isn't there a class action law suit started for cypro?

ConnyMommy

Jan 16, 2012

To: kayjai

I have started seeing a new doctor. Right away she informed me I have not been consuming enough protein, which I aready suspected from my own research-should be 110 -120 grams a day, I've been lucky to get 50. My former toned and taunt arms look like deflated balloons. Meanwhile I have taken up bike riding, putting in 12 - 30 miles per ride. Lost 10 pounds in about 7 weeks, but not gaining any muscle mass, just winkles. Doc says body needs energy & protein, and will take it from one place (skin & arms)to go where its needed. Says I have inflammation so I am on a detox for a week. Will be protein loading and resistance training next week. She also uses saliva testing for hormones so interested where all this goes. Will update posts as I get more info.

oldskin50

Jan 23, 2012

To: jnine1964

Oh my God I cannot believe I am not the only one at 50 that the arms in front at the elbow crease, have wrinkled suddenly and have no clue what happened. Please let me know if anyone finds an answer as, just this summer, they were OK. ***@****

Amalthea101

Jan 26, 2012

To: oldskin50

I am 50 - and when I turned 50 last year and told everyone I was at a "special" birthday they all thought I was going to be 40! I have no wrinkles on my face and neck BUT if they saw the skin around my armpits, and now also in the crook of my elbows, they'd have thought I'd be turning 70! Like everyone else on this forum, the change I experienced was sudden - I used to love showing off toned and muscular arms. My Doctor tells me I'm an ideal weight, I eat well (although maybe I don't eat enough protein in my diet - that's one thing I will try to change) and I am pysically fit despite suffering osteoarthritis in my knees. I have tried lots of different lotions and potions - and daydreamed about being able to afford surgery to improve the look of my arms - to no avail as it isn't an affordable option for me. The derma rolling sounds good - but again it's pricey. To all the ladies on this forum in your late 50's and 60's, please count your blessings that this aging process didn't strike until it did. To those younger than I, I completely sympathise - I think about the look of my arms ALL the time and take pains to hide them, even in hot weather. The tops of my thighs are just beginning to crinkle too, but I hate my legs and so that isn't an issue as I would never wear short shorts anyway. My husband is 5 years younger than me, tells me how beautiful I am all of the time - but I dread to think what he'll think of me by the time I reach 55 if my body skin keep aging at this rate! If someone could find a lotion that REALLY worked they'd be billionnaires, judging by the amount of people with the same problems on forums like these. Let's all take comfort in knowing that we aren't alone.

Amalthea101

Jan 26, 2012

To: Amalthea101

I forgot to add that I haven't started the menopause yet - I have that to look forward to!

lifehugger

Feb 04, 2012

To: ditsyblonde

Similar problem as yours and everyone else. Whether there is a solution or not, one important thing is that everyone 60 or older should be tested by doctor for Vitamin B12 level. You have to ask your doctor for the test b/c it is not a routine test. Something like 30% of women age 60 and up have a deficiency. The deficiency mostly effects energy but can also effect memory and the nervous system. My doctor found my B12 level to be very much below normal. I had the B12 injection and will continue for 2 more and then just use high dose supplements. Energy wise I felt better soon after starting the injection. Could this deficiency also have contributed to the changes in my skin - all over my body? I also looked young for my age and then almost overnight - major changes. B12 tests should be as routine as mammograms. B12 deficiency is often caused by the inability of the stomach to separate B12 out of protein for use in body. Keep taking your vitamins ladies. I had stopped taking mine a couple of years ago because I ate very well balanced meals. In meantime I shall try to be thankful that I am alive and worry less about the body wrinkles.

Tori777

Feb 11, 2012

To: ilene69

Have you tried Hormone Pellet Therapy?

chunlimeyers

Feb 23, 2012

To: alll

Ladies, your problem simply stems by two things. Lack of protein, and an acidic diet. Mostly from lack of protein. And, it SEEMS like it is "all a sudden", but that is not what your body would tell you! It has been trying to survive on LOW TO NO PROTEIN FOR YEARS! Then, the body can't support its internal organs anymore with the little you give it trying to stay "thin" and it just pulls it from your muscles. I went on a low calorie diet lately and didn't get enough protein and my face suffered. But i quickly learnt my own lesson and got back on my high protein diet, and luckily recovered. Also, check out alkaline/acidic foods/drink. A lot of you clearly are eating an acidic diet and have so for YEARS. But, are stunned when this hits you, "all at once." Finally, sweat more and drink more water. These are things that help your weak old liver detoxify all the acidic foods. And finally, think positively, as negative thoughts also produce much acid in the system. Good luck ladies reversing years of bad, bad, awful habits.

Sherry47FLA

Mar 02, 2012

To: all

I haven't enjoyed reading these stories but they have been cathartic and reassured me that I am not the only person suffering from the effects of this condition. It is amazing how so many of us have always been regarded as much younger than our actual ages and are now dealing with skin that looks like it belongs to two generations beyond the one we are in. I especially notice it at night in bed when I hold my arm above my head and the skin seems to ripple and fall with a mind of its' own. It is so disgusting and has an incredibly depressing effect on my confidence about my physical appearance.

I have always believed that a person's worth is not measured by the way one looks and I still do. I am still, however, repulsed by the sight of my own skin. I am sure that would not be the case if if I encountered another woman that looked just like me. I found this sight today while searching to see if there was any new surgical procedure that might be in the works for women that have the crepiness but not the excess skin that a "lift" might offer. As I see, that is probably not happening. I have, however, discovered a circle of support and empathy that I did not have until this moment and I will most definitely be back. Blessings to all of you for opening up your lives and sharing your thoughts and support on this sight.

lowerarms

Mar 05, 2012

To: Sniper1973

Hi, Can you please tell me what you are thinking of using and what your actual problem is with your arms? I have just turned 45 and have had issues with my arms for the past few years. Each year the wrinkles and sagging keep getting worse. I am slim, fair and spent about 10years in my teens, early 20's worshiping the sun. And am now paying dearly. My lower arms are very wrinkled and I have been using pure vitamin A on them as well as E cream. Also have used a gylocolic acid on them 20% and have purchased a 70% from the USA but have not yet used it. I have thought about seeing a surgeon but dont have any idea on who would be able to help and or trying some sort of lazer! My upper arms are crepeing/sagging. I am now going to the gym and doing weights which has helped to a degree but they are still not great. I dont show off my arms at all and get very upset when people look at them. I know I should be happy that I have 2 arms but still feel extremely depressed, it makes me sick looking at them. So if there is anything that you can share with me to lesson my wrinkles that would be wonderful.

Rosina1952

Mar 09, 2012

Hello ladies,

I have been crazy busy with various accounts and so not on this board for a long time. I just saw that I have several PMs and one today (sunniest). To answer the lady today, I take L-carnosine and L-proline along with ALA and Vit C for the skin. These are suitable for any age group.  Three days ago, I started using Neocell Super Collagen Types 1&3 with Vitamin C in the am and pm. The reason was the huge number of positive reports of plumper skin, on iHerb and other sites.

There have been a lot of strange speculations as to what is causing arms to sag, particularly in slim, fit women. There is no mystery to it. As hormones wane, we lose the extra layer of dermal fat that nature gave us for the childbearing years. This means the skin has to fit over a reduced surface area. The result of this is a lack of tautness. Combined with the reduction in elastin and collagen that occurs as we grow older, causing the skin to not snap back as it does in youth, the result is puckering and sagginess.  We cannot stop this process altogether, even with the application of bioidentical hormones. Women with more fat on their bodies see less sagging because the fat plumps out the skin more. However, these women also lose dermal fat.

Another process contributing to wrinkling and sagging is glycation. Again, this happens as a result of being alive. It is hastened, however, by consuming sugar. (Glycation is the bonding of a protein with a sugar molecule, causing the production of random - as opposed to structured - cross links. The result is stiffness within the skin's structure, that causes wrinkling.) We cannot give up sugar entirely and expect glycation to not happen. The liver releases stored glycogen from sugars and carbs to facilitate the life process as sugar is the fuel that keeps our cells alive. We can slow glycation by eating less sugar, especially fructose or fruit sugar, and its dangerous cousin, High Fructose Corn Syrup, found in most processed foods and beverages. The sugar trehalose, now available through Amazon and produced by Swanson, does not appear to create the most common cross-link, and is therefore worth using to slow down glycation.

My attempts so far to reverse my own "ugly arm skin" have not met with much success, so I'm in preventive mode.  I met with Dr. Charles Cheng of Vancouver, who uses Ultherapy for his clients and is considered an expert in this procedure. I asked him if Ulthera would help tighten the skin in the crook of my arm and he said that it would. However, it is costly. (Dr. Cheng is also known for his ethics and the fact he would never sell someone on a procedure that he felt would not work effectively.) At present, Ultherapy has a review rating of 83% on Real Self - very, very high for any procedure other than surgery. However, none of the reviewers has had the procedure on their arms.

So, for me at the present time, I am taking the supplements and collagen, working out to build muscle in my arms, and getting enough protein and iron (very important). After trying every active ingredient, and various creams and serums for several years, I see no change to anything other than my bank account.

To the lady immediately before me, who sunbathed a lot, you're doing the right things. Don't blame the sun or yourself for what is happening. The chances are, you are experiencing natural aging and fat diminishment in the skin as well as a lack of elasticity enhanced by UV exposure. I'm willing to bet the latter isn't much since your skin would have repaired itself to some degree. You are blonde and we Nordic types have finer skins that don't stand the test of time as well as our darker, thicker-skinned sisters.

Hugs to all, Rosina

Hope this helps!

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Mar 13, 2012

To: lashlon

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neicey713

Mar 15, 2012

To: Skinnylynny

Not to worry the younger girl will be gone when he runs out of money and starts showing his real age... he will then be left all alone!
A woman can get a man anytime ... maybe you just forgot how. Sex appeal at any age can be attractive to a man.. We just sometimes get too picky in our older years but there are plenty out there and they might be old and have some bad habits but all that can be fixed and perfected with a little time and patients...lol

SharonSPI

Mar 18, 2012

To: MsDaisyee

Are you the one who has some fashion ideas on how to camoflauge your arms and still look fashionable?

Sharon

bambur

Mar 23, 2012

To: TerrinPhx

For the past three weeks I have been trying a combo of derma rolling every three weeks with 1.5 roller followed by a copper peptide. Dry brushing daily with sisal louffa mitt followed by avacado oil. Alternating between retin A and glycolic acid nightly. I need to add to my routine an application of Vit C for three days prior to rolling.

Marje293

Mar 28, 2012

To: di523

I just came across this site because I was (& always do) feeling depressed & moody about how I look. I am taking it out on my poor husband today. He is trying to make me feel better, but I can't seem to stand looking at myself after shopping today. Like you, I look everywhere for a long sleeves to cover up in & all the pretty or stylish blouses are sleeveless or short sleeves. I lived in Southern California for over 40 years & recently moved to Arizona so my husband & I could retire. It is so very, very hot & dry here &, like you, I have a hard time finding blouses with sleeves that are comfortable in this 112+ weather! I also feel like I look like an idiot when everyone else is sleeveless...I have had this problem for about 10 years (I am now 62) & I am not old yet & refuse to give in to the OLD LADY arms at this time! I could vent on & on, but I KNOW you KNOW how I feel. Thanks for listening.
I have never been over weight & I am small framed. I am 5'2" and weigh between 116 to 118 lbs. I Hate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can read my blog at 2retirednewmans & see what I look like & also see that I don't look my age, but my skin looks worse than most 70 year olds.
Marje

Marje293

Mar 28, 2012

To: Rosina1952

Rosina, your comments are very helpful. I also sunbathed all my life & was told this could be the blame for my saggy, wrinkled skin...and I look like crape paper from my feet to my chest. I am about to give up. The way I look caused me to not want to go anywhere, or have friends over for a pool party or go to the lake anymore (with our boat) because I don't want anyone to see my crappie, sun damaged skin. I GIVE UP!
I pray for a miracle.
Marje

snowbnni24

Apr 01, 2012

To: chunlimeyers

Actually there are a few things going on for many people here who are feeling frustrated. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ladies you will need to do at least two very importnt things if you would like to see at least modest improvement in your skin and joints. You MUST stop drinking caffeinated beverages. Caffeine severely dehydrates the body, including all of it's organ internally and most visibly your SKIN!! Caffeine also causes a myriad of other problems like ulcers and joint pain. Because caffeine irritates the lining of the stomach the body borrows calcium from your bones and joints to sooth this irritation, in much the same way that a Tums pill would temporarily help , only over an extended period of time, as you can imagine, the depletion of calcium in the bones becomes an issue. Calcium also is needed for a healthy heart and healthy skin. The severe dehydration alone is tragic for the skins health and beauty, Just think of a prune or any dried fruit or even a dry flower. Not good. The second thing you must do to prevent long term and sudden aging is to STOP EATING SO MUCH SUGAR! Sugar causes what is called glycation in the body. It is a form of advanced aging. Please google both side effects of caffeine and sugar consumption for a more in depth description. You will be amazed!
Cutting sugar and caffeine out of the typical American diet is no small thing. But, you should at least consider it if you are serious about your health and looks. You may ask why the medical community does not put more emphasis on these things? That is another story for another time but the answers will come to you if you think about it for awhile. I hate to see such suffering and depression among my fellow ladies. I felt moved enough after reading some of these posts to share what should be common knowledge. Good luck and please read up on these topics. You will look and feel much better after about 3 months of these new changes. For some there are hormonal as well as other possible reasons to consider but the above is the absolute best place to start, and the sooner the best. Best...

michigangrandma

Apr 08, 2012

To: All You Dear Ladies

Thanks f/ baring your souls & f/ the suggestions. I made a list of the suggestions; am going to start buying some high-protein drink mixes (I don't eat much meat - get most of my protein fr/ beans, cheese, eggs, peanut butter, etc.; have gone organic, including coffee, as much as possible). I'm older than most of you, have always looked good and, believe me, it's no easier f/ me to accept the change than f/ you younger ones. I guess a male cousin, older than I, thought he was complimenting me at a reunion when he said, "You were a gorgeous woman!" The "were" word stuck in my craw! Like many of you, my nasty skin seemed to appear overnight. I just showed my son my latest driver's license pic; I said, "If I look that bad, just shoot me!" So much f/ "growing old gracefully"! When someone approaches w/ a camera, I disappear. Vanity is a sin, I know, but we live in a world that's youth-oriented. My dad once said, "If you want to know how you'll look when you're old, look at your mother!" He was so right! Not easy to feel, talk & think young, but look like 90! I believe the problem must be tackled internally; not w/ cosmetics & surgery. Until some scientist discovers the "fountain of youth", let's keep searching. I feel your pain! God bless us all!

Caroline123

Apr 09, 2012

To: bambur

Have you seen much improvement with this therapy?? How is the dry brushing??

HijadeM

Apr 09, 2012

To: chunlimeyers

Hi ladies and Chunlimeyers...just reading this post...yes...all about creapy skin..lol ..that's what I call it. Do keep your selves hydrated and alkalized ...slow way down on the coffee (caffeine drinks) sugar and salt. Also has anyone tried clay packs for loose skin ? It will detox you also. Going to keep reading and will post more latter.
Mostly...do what you can, BUT ..open your eyes and see that you are more than your skin...you are the beautiful person inside..let your love and light shine..stop focusing on the external and more on the Eternal...that is more real, and it is surely coming. Love to all of you beautiful ladies. I am walking the same road as you and am now looking at 66 years , hoping to get wiser with each year , and trying to see more clearly every day.

lori123727

Apr 15, 2012

To: oldskin50

I have the exact same thing. It started at 48 and now I'm 49. I'm afraid of the upcoming warm weather. I will have to show off my 70 year old arms

rudy788

Apr 16, 2012

I too noticed the crepe skin on my arms overnight. I am a brunette with medium toned skin and average weight. I am 50 yrs. old and have just gone into menopause. I believe the menopause is a big factor, but for me I can admit that too much sugar, processed foods, and coffee are also probably to blame. I appreciate all the comments. I will try to eat more protein and drink more water and cut back on sugar and caffeine. I am not taking any hormone replacement. Is there anything that puts more collagen and elastin back into the skin? Has anyone found a lotion (i.e. hty gold or dermasilk, etc.) that worked? Also, at the same time as the crepe skin started I also got the double bonus of excessive cellulite covering my legs. Ugh! Anyone notice this too?

Marje293

Apr 17, 2012

To: rudy788

I have tried EVERYTHING! I am still looking for that merical. I too starting noticing that my arms were getting wrinkled & craepy in my late 40s & I am not 62 & they are soooo bad. I have always been thin & small framed. I have never had a weight problem & I don't eat a lot of sugar or caffine. I personally don't feel it had anything to do with my diet. I think it has to do with sun worshiping & lack of weight excersise. I walk 3 to 4 times a week & nothing helps the craepey skin throughout my body. There MUST be something that can help. Please, if anyone knows the secret I would love to know what it is. Also, I have tried all the creams on the market....Gold, etc.
Marje (2retirednewmans)

kayetidbit

Apr 19, 2012

To: MissCalle

What have you used topocal AND internal for dry crepy sking on legs and arms. I have 59 and just got bad in the last year. I live in New Mexico and it extremely dry. I am desperate. Thanks

Hale12

Apr 21, 2012

Boy, after reading all your posting I feel somewhat "relieved" - I am 52 years old and seemed to have also aged over night - deep lines around my mouth, saggy skin under my eyes, always tired, moody, oh yes and unemployed.
Damn, this is really hard dealing with your menopause crap and dealing with unemployment at the same time!!! I just want to scream!
I have to steer myself away from thinking that the reason I am not getting a job is because I am so fricken old!!!!
It is a challenge daily to get out of bed and start writing "selling" yourself in this job market.....
Sorry I am sounding so "bitchy" that's just how i feel.
My boyfriend of course tells me I still look good, but we all know he is just trying to be nice.....:(

ConnyMommy

Apr 21, 2012

Well, seems nothing is working for any of us. But it is getting many of us to focus on our health. I just turned 60 today & celebrated by riding my bike 30 miles. Eating better; got a new puppy, buy tops with 3/4 sleeves, eat chocolate. Even if the saggy went away, it would be something else. And I still get the LOOK from some men so can't be all bad. Don't give up & improve what you can. And go see a doctor that is health conscious of the whole body, which means you should probably find a female doc cause the men aren't getting it.And if you man says he loves you & you look great-quite calling him a liar. It really is the inner you that counts.

libbyjay

Apr 22, 2012

To: Sherry47FLA

These comments have all been "music to my ears"....all along I have thought this was only happening to me...I am 58 yrs young , tall & thin. I have always been asked what my secret was to looking so young & having a good figure...but a couple yrs ago the saggy crepe monster came in the middle of the night it seems & took over my arms & legs...I just want to cry every morning when I see myself...it has taken over my thoughts to where I try not to lift my arms up....especially at work! Sleeveless tops are a thing of the past except when I am in the comfort of home. I do think now though I can maybe begin to quit dwelling on it & realize there are so many of you out there going through the same thing. Thank you:)

ConnyMommy

Apr 23, 2012

To: libbyjay

Are you blonde & blue eyed also? Quite a few posts are. I love working in my garden but last year I couldn't bear to because I would be constantly looking at my saggy arms ( hot so wear sleeveless tops). I am finally coming to a truce with the negative thoughts but it ain't been easy. Got a good look at the arms yesterday-that loud sound you heard was me sighing. If the rest of the body is reasonably healthy try & focus on that.

Marje293

Apr 24, 2012

To: ConnyMommy

It IS VERY, VERY HARD to focus on being positive about how I look. It is hard to see women a lot older than me wearing sleeveless bloused/dresses & look so good in them. I don't understand this! My mother (who passed away at the age of 69) didn't have this problem. I HATE it! It is affecting my life & how I see myself. This ugly, crepey, wrinkled, loose skin has also attacked my but my legs as well. I have never been overweight & I have a small frame. I am active & walk 2 to 3 miles 3x a day. I do not believe there is hope....I will continue to hurt over it.

di523

Apr 25, 2012

I have been following this discussion and have written a couple of times myself.  Here we are, about to hit the warm weather season.  I still worried about my sagging arms during the winter, but it was easy to wear at least 3/4 sleeves then.  I still have not mentioned this "problem" to anyone for fear of drawing attention to it (I'm sure my arms will draw enough attention on their own!).

I continue to shop for stylish summer tops with sleeves and actually have quite a few now.  Still, they aren't what I would choose if I had lovely arms; but at least I'm not sweating bullets in the heat, no one would wonder why I am wearing what I chose (well, maybe other women with this problem realize why!).  It is so silly, but my biggest worry (still) is going on our yearly summer vacation with our good friends.  My best gal pal has beautiful arms and always wears sleeveless tops.  I guess she has noticed my change in style, but hasn't said anything.  I've covered them up for the last several years, except when I have to wear a bathing suit (and I must admit, I haven't noticed her staring at my arms).

Also, "lighting" seems to make a huge difference.  Sometimes I look in a mirror and feel my arms aren't "that bad"; other times I want to cry.  I get so many compliments on looking so young...I feel I am hiding a huge secret under these "flutter" sleeves, "shoulder cut outs", and peasant blouses.   I realize this situation isn't going to get "better"...it is only going to get worse.  It is CRAZY, but I have even wished I were older than my 59 years since maybe I wouldn't feel so bad if these were my 65 year old arms!

I wonder if at some point I will have to buy a bathing suit with sleeves (LOL).  Boy, in a few years when I put on a suit and unveil my arms for the first time in front of my friends, they will be shocked...since they haven't seen the "progression"; and I will be so embarrassed.

All of this being said, I am thankful for this forum.  I am sorry you are all going through the same thing, but am glad that I am not alone (as I feel alone about this most of the time, since I NEVER mention it..even to my husband).  You know, if I knew a woman who was anguishing over a scar that she was hiding, or any other "body image problem", I would advise her to ignore it and enjoy life!  Life is too precious and short to waste worrying about something no one else even cares about.  I wish I could take my own advice.   I honestly hope we find a miracle cure; but since I truly doubt that exists, I pray we find a way to accept this about ourselves and ENJOY our lives...at pool parties, at the beach, on vacation, EVERYWHERE!

Marje293

Apr 25, 2012

To: di523

Thank you for your comment!!!! You said it ALL so well. I feel exactly like you in everything you feel & said. I too, feel glad that I found this forum & see that I am not alone. I started exercising with weights last night thinking that this Might help a bit. I am going to try to stop feeling sorry for myself & do something about it!

Marty001

Apr 26, 2012

To: kayjai

For thining hair try Biotin . My hir was getting very thin and Doc told me about this I take one a day did not think it was working than one day Wow I could tell it did work. But it does not help my saggy arms and thighs.

americanwoman54

Apr 30, 2012

To: All

I seem to come once a year to this site to see if there are any new updates on procedures for this problem that most of us face, but I guess there really has not been a breakthrough. I would think that some company would do some research on this topic somewhere as it seems to me that plumping up what was lost can't be that hard to replicate. And if one looks at men, they do not seem to have this problem, so I am thinking that what someone already mentioned, testosterone may play a bit of a role here?

But with that said, for myself, I think me not being totally skinny helps as from what I am reading, this seems to exacerbate the problem. Also, even though I have mentioned this before, what seems to work for me for the area in my arms when I bend my elbows is Skintight lotion. I swear by it. I use it 2 times a day (sometimes 3 now that I am 63), and the crepiness and loose skin is gone. I know it doesn't work for everyone, but it sure does for me, but maybe too because I have been using it for almost 10 years now. It even helps firm up my knees a bit, but not as much as my arms. Just wanted to pass that along again. :-)

americanwoman54

Apr 30, 2012

To: americanwoman54

Opps. Just went to look at my bottle. It is Nourish Skin Tight Nourish as I didn't realize I made it one word. Just google it and up will pop where to get it. Hope it will work for many of you if you opt to give it a try... but keep in mind that it may not be immediate as I can't remember if it was, for it was soooo long ago when I first began using it. But now, for me, it is. :-)

lvm1204

Apr 30, 2012

I have been following the comments. I agree that some company should find a way to reverse the saggy skin women suffer with. I have saggy arms and it started about 14 years ago, when I had early menopause. Now it's like everything is sagging and old and crepey. I work out and am thin, am 54. But my skin looks like I am 70. I wish a company would find a cure for this, like with viagra. It's a women's ageing (aging) issue.To me it is not just about our looks, but it affects a person's self confidence, causes depression, makes us more suspectible to skin cancer and skin ailments, bruising, skin darkening and a host of other skin related issues and internal issues too. Who knows, there may already be a cure out there. The crepey skin seems to have to do with menopause. My fair skinned friends who have later menopause or later pregnancies dont the wrinkly crepey skin like me. If someone does discover something that works, please post it. Thank you,

lvm1204

Apr 30, 2012

To: lvm1204

Also, I have tried everything on the market, and have a bathroom full of lotions, oils, etc. I have nourish skin tight, bio oil, vit e. I started collegan just recently. Nothing so far. Also I've been on bhrt. But nothing seems to help. I did take l'arginine for a while and like that. It seems to increase muscle mass if you work out. So if anyone has any suggestions that work, I would love to know about it!

Marje293

May 01, 2012

To: americanwoman54

I agree with you that it could be a lack of testosterone. My doctor ran tests & found that my testosterone level was virtually shot. I tried some pills she prescribed, but my sex level went up toooo much & I started growing hair all over my face & started becoming very aggressive & gained weight. I also started getting hard, white pimple like thingies all over my face. I stopped taking the pills fast! lolo. My husband didn't like the change in me either..lololo. But, that said, I think because my skin is so loose (for whatever the reason) could be the cause of this crepey, wrinkled skin. Like I said earlier, I use to BAKE in the sun when I was young & I have never had a weight problem. Sooooooooooooooo, what is causing this???? I am very depressed over it. I want to wear spaghetti straps & short sleeve so bad. I think I look 75...but, I have even seen women that old with nice arms. Oh, by the way...my mom never had this. She had nice arms up until she passed away at the age of 69. I am now 62 but started this at the age of around 49 or 50.

mysmermaid

May 07, 2012

To: chunlimeyers

Thanks for lumping everyone into the same place chunli. I eat well (nothing white, no gluten, little sugar, have never smoked, seldom drink, dance 12-18 hours a week, walk wherever I can, etc.)Just turned 63. I swear; my arms and inner thighs got crepey overnight. I know because I dance and now all of my sleeveless outfits look awful. Walk a mile in our shoes...
I did lose 15 lbs rather rapidly, and that could be a factor, but this is just a horrendous change.

scandalous

May 08, 2012

To: rudy788

I've noticed it. I'm almost 51 and I have noticed a ton of cellulite over my thighs. I'm a regular exerciser (5 days a week of cardio and weights) and I eat healthy. I'm pretty much a lifetime exerciser for the most part.

Anyway, I've started using Glycolic Acid lotion (15%) more diligently on my thighs, but plan to up this to a 35% peel. It does help to regenerate the collagen in the skin, and thus will help to firm it up.

scandalous

May 08, 2012

Ladies, here are some tips for sagging skin:

I agree that most people, especially if active, probably need more protein.
Chemical peels (Glycolic is best)
Retinol
Dermaroller and C serum was an excellent suggestion. Puritains Pride has a great serum that isnt too expensive. Its not what you spend but the quality of the product and its equal in quality to Cellex C
You can get a dermaroller for 15 to 20 dollars on ebay (yes theyre good quality)
Sunscreen and sun protection like hats, "sleeves" and gloves for when you are driving

I am all for doing what we can to prevent aging and the saggy skin that goes with it. Fight it allll the way!!

scandalous

May 09, 2012

Okay! More tips:

Dry Brushing. It thickens the skin, sort of like chemical peels do, but chem peels will also help to regenerate collagen so its really a double whammy and probably better to use.

Then, weight bearing exercise if it hasnt been mentioned already. You will at least firm the muscle and lastly, lose weight slowly. Your skin will have a MUCH better chance of bouncing back

sjenk

May 12, 2012

I just found this forum and do feel comforted that I'm not alone. I started seeing the crepe paper on my arms two summers ago, at age 54. I was shocked as I've always loved tank tops in summer, I'm fit and health conscious. I also eat well and keep sugar to a minimum. The people who suggest that its simply a lack of protein and poor diet really don't have all their facts straight. Yes, eating a nutritious diet is very important, but other factors are obviously involved for those of us who already have a healthy lifestyle. Perhaps genetics, sun exposure over the years, who knows exactly? I wish I knew a solution. I think I can get away with one more summer of short sleeves but it seems about over unless I can reverse it.

FreakinFifty

May 15, 2012

To: All

I just found this forum! I am NOT YET 52 and freaking out! Literally a year ago, my arms were great! My legs were never great (ie cellulite) but the skin "fit"! I was on vacation just last June and wore a bathing suit as normal. About a year and a half ago, I had noticed my hair seemed to be thinning rather quickly. I googled and attributed it to stress. But then a few things happened at once. I lost weight...in total about 35 pounds. At 5'4, I'd lost about 20 pounds by my vacation last year and was down to 125 (I'd only had the extra weight on my body for about a year and a half having gained it also due to stress so figured when I lost it I'd look like I'd looked before!!). At 125 pounds, my skin still "fit"!!! My arms, while not looking toned, still looked smooth. Then I lost another 10, down to about 115. I also stopped taking birth control pills about a year and a half ago thinking it was keeping weight on me. It never occurred to stupid me that it was keeping my hormones up and my skin on! I quickly went through menopause. (Yes, all this occurred at the same time). It seemed like LITERALLY OVERNIGHT, my skin "fell off"!! I was doing push ups and looked down at my legs. My thigh skin looked like an OLD LADY'S!!!! At first I attributed it to the weight loss. I tried to bulk up with protein to no avail. I then noticed my neck had that horrible crepey look which I never had. THEN, again, seemingly overnight, my arms got HORRIBLE!! The backs (triceps) began to hang off like a 300 pound womans. The skin over my inner elbow crease started to hang over and got crepey. The skin just under my armpit and going down my inner arm got horribly crepey and every time I look down (heaven forbid my arms are at my sides) I could just cry!!! In fact I have many times!! I feel like I've aged 20 years in 6 months!! I have literally looked at EVERY ONE I know that's LATE 50's and 60's and NOT ONE OF THEM has this!! I also noticed that suddenly my face got "hairy". I'm blondish thank goodness but it's not a good look to have fuzz all over your face!! I also NEVER had a grey hair and overnight the grey started! Finally, my muscle strength disappeared. I've worked out my whole adult life. I went from being able to lift pretty heavy weights to now being on the LIGHTEST weight possible! And even that I can barely lift!! My arms LOOK toned (other than the new giant waddle and hanging wrinkled skin) but I can barely lift anything!! I always looked younger than my age. Now I look older! This skin is literally making me look like an old lady in a retirement home in Florida (no offense Florida seniors!!) My mother didn't have hanging arms until she was in her 70's!!! I am obsessed with this. I cannot imagine how I will live my life now as it's summer and I'm either wearing exercise tanks for working out or sleeveless t's! I cannot imagine going to the beach or a pool ever again!! Yes, I was a sun worshipper as a kid, but this literally happened overnight! I have been pinching the skin (didn't imagine anyone else would do that but it seems you all have!) and have tried tightening creams. Haven't yet done retin A all over as it's pricey. Someone mentioned Glycolic 35% peels. Not sure if you can get that yourself or need a doctor. I did start to research Thermage and Ultherapy. It SEEMS like Ultherapy is new and for the face/neck. I see that Thermage is SUPPOSEDLY done on arms, but I've literally called every doctor around me and no one has done it for the arms. The closest I've come is one doctor who did it once on the arms. I've even tried calling the company but can't get a person on the phone. Plus, it's SO EXPENSIVE and I'm worried that it won't work! And I don't want to go somewhere that has only done it once and really has no results to speak of. One doctor mentioned a fractional laser but it didn't sound like it works that well and it would take many sessions. I'm just now reading about this rolling thing and the dry loufah. That sounds painful but what the heck...I'll try that. Does Retin A really help this? Has anyone done Thermage? I can't imagine spending that much and seeing no results!! I'm so glad to read that there are a few early 50 year olds freaking out about this like I am. It is really traumatizing!! It sounds insane, but I can't stop thinking about it! Anyone with info or a referral to doctor in NY area who does Thermage on ARMS, please let me know! Any other suggestions are appreciated as well!

Marje293

May 16, 2012

To: sjenk

I agree with you sjenk. I eat healthy & exercise pretty regularly. My mother didn't have this problem, but maybe long periods of sun neglect. I have never been overweight & have always had thin arm until I hit my late 40s when I started noticing the wrinkle in my arms. As each year passed, the wrinkle became a mass of wrinkles which now looks like crepey paper. I am at a loose. I am in aqua exercise classes 3x a week & a baby boomer weight bearing class 1 x a week. I walk 2 or 3 miles about 2 - 3 times a week. So, you can see I am active. I am 62, but my skin looks like it is 82. I take that back....some 82 year olds look better...lololo I have also tried EVERY lotion on the market....didn't help

Marje293

May 16, 2012

To: FreakinFifty

I did try Thermage 2 different times, but nothing. I think only GOD can perform a miracle to get rid of this.

phyfit

May 16, 2012

To: FreakinFifty

Hi. I had Thermage on my arms and it did NOT work at all.. It was not the Thermage for the body, it was a older version. I am 51, slim and VERY fit. My forearms are ALL wrinkled and the elbow joint has loose skin. It's all I can think about. Loosing sleep...Afraid of summer ..... and loosing my relationship over this awful skin. My knees also have developed wrinkles.

bambur

May 16, 2012

To: FreakinFifty

I bought California Hut 35% glycol acid, recommended by an esthetician, from ebay for $7.50. Retina A, copper peptide, and vitamin C can be purchased at
shop.owndoc.com/c-48-1/dermaneedling.html very reasonably. Check out the forum there as well.

fitness_coach

May 17, 2012

I am so glad I found this site because I am going nuts!! I am 52 and keep fit (I have been a fitness coach at Curves for the past 6 months) I am 5' 4" and weigh 135 and am in the recommended numbers for BMI and body fat. However, I have been under going natural hormone replacement therapy for the past 5 months. Even though I am 52, had a hysterectomy about 6 years ago I still have my ovaries and am not yet going through menopause and am estrogen domiment and have been on natural progesterone to balance out my hormones. Then just last week she determined I have a sluggish thyroid. I make T4 but my T3 was low and not converting so just this week I started on Armour Thyroid. Just in the last few weeks I've notice only when like I bend my arms the inner upper arms are so wrinkly I can't stand it. I'm embarrassed now when I'm at the club working out or coaching new members. So with this being said am I understanding that this could be related to my hormone imbalance? Please any input would be appreciated!!

ConnyMommy

May 17, 2012

Wish we could all get together to compare notes on where we went wrong or perhaps if we all have a common characteristic that links our skin problem. Liked the comment about "skin fits" . That pretty much describes us-our skin has become too loose for our bodies. Waiting to hear from anyone who has managed to get a doctor to prescribe HGH, The men seem to have cornered the market for this-think Cenegenics.

lipzippy

May 21, 2012

I am 53 and have noticed this last year as I am experiencing night sweats- that my skin has gotten crepey with more looseness- I run and do weights- I have a lot of sun damage from my earlier years of teens- college age being a lifeguard and swimmer. I have researched extensively on this and also visited a plastic surgeon. The Plastic surgeon said the only way to combat this skin problem is with acid peels- light ones since the arms and legs have less sebaceous glands than the face and use a "a" and c serum. Derma roller is also a way to rebuild collagen loss- Increase water intake- Use Hyaluronic acid and COQ10 - I Also use pure grapeseed oil, Vit E oil, Almond Oil, Coconut oil,Jojoba oi- mixed together and slather it on after I shower. I read about a Phytessence Wakame extract from sea kelp that is suppose to be great- Have not found that yet to purchase other then in a cream that is costly.

FreakinFifty

May 21, 2012

To: Marje293

How long ago did you have your Thermage? What did the doctor say about how effective it would be? And did he/she redo it for free or charge you thousands all over again? Did you take before/after pics? I hate to think my last hope is not going to work!! And how did you find a doctor who did arm thermage? I can't seem to find one!

Marje293

May 22, 2012

To: FreakinFifty

I tried it while living in New Port Beach, CA about 6 years ago. I had it done on my face for sun damage. I looked great for a few months & then it was back to the way it looked before. It did not get rid of wrinkles either. It is VERY painful! I also had it done on my chest. Nothing. Very expensive too. I did not get a break on the 2nd procedure either. She said everyone’s skin reacts different to Thermage. It may do a good job for you, but it didn't for me. Sorry. A few weeks ago I joined aqua exercise classes and also a baby boomer boot camp. I love both! I am trying to go 3 times a week. The instructor said we have "week muscles". I do think this will help firm it so that it doesn't look soooo crepey. I'll keep everyone posted. I hope everyone will check out my blog at http://2retirednewmans.blogspot.com/
I wrote a blog about "Dry Body Brushing" from information I found on the net. It may help....I am hoping!

kimpossible89

May 22, 2012

To: The Community

Hey all, I am new to this site, new to blogging and just newly discovered that I have officially been in menopause. So much, that I am almost post-menopausal. I am 46, single and have always been in great shape. I waited to have children because I wanted to "do it right." Now I have found someone, I just heard today that I am so far from being able to get pregnant and it is devastating. I was told my menopause rate is at 90 and my estrogen is at 15. My Ob-Gyn is asian with a strong accent, so I could not really understand her and I was too upset to even say "huh?" Has anyone been at such an extreme place and found that there was hope to either conceive, or to try fertility methods? Or should I throw in the towl, cry it out and move on?

FreakinFifty

May 24, 2012

To: Marje293

So it doesn't sound like you had Thermage done on your arms, did you? After you had it done once, why did the doctor recommend a second time if it didn't seem to work? Was she telling you it was cumulative? All the doctors seem to do Thermage for the face but not the arms. Maybe people won't pay that much for their arms, but I'm so embarressed about mine!

oldovernight

May 31, 2012

To: FreakinFifty

I'm 53 and my skin "quit fitting me" only a few months ago! This involves my arms and my legs. I read your post and I've experienced everything you wrote. The worst part of skin thinning is that it tears so easily now, that I barely bump my arms and I'm bleeding. It takes forever to heal. I was an Activity Director for years and saw all kinds of sagging skin on a daily basis and thought eventually it would happen to me. Not in my 50's though!!! I have read every post, taken notes, and I'm not giving up without a fight!

lizbec1810

May 31, 2012

To: oldovernight

I googled this problem in desperation today, after noticing, whilst in a yoga position, that the skin on my arms and shoulders was hanging down, literally! I am 57 this year, looked young for my age until about 3-4 years ago, now have deep lines around my mouth , and saggy skin on my arms, shoulders, chest and starting to appear on my legs - even my ankles! I hav always been slim (am also blonde and blue-eyed). ( years ago i was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis, for which i take an immunosuppressant (not cipro but similar) and steroids; don't know if that has anything to do with it. My diet isn't bad, but i am restricted in what i can eat because of the colitis. I do know i consume too much sugar and probably too much alcohol! i know i should be grateful that i have arms that work; i never thought things loike this would bother me and always despised people who had cosmetic surgery but believe me if i thought it would work i would sell my soul to ahve it done. Not helped by having a husband who looks about 30!!! (he is the same age). I will, after reading some of these posts, try and cut down on sugar, coffee and alcohol and drink more water.
Good luck to all of you!

Marje293

Jun 01, 2012

To: FreakinFifty

No, I had it done on my face and chest. 2 times on my face. My Dermatologist said that it may take 3 or 4 times before I am completely happy with the results. I think that is extreme. She did tell me I could have it on my arms and that the price would be a bit cheaper...but....I am not loaded with money...lolo Type Thermage for arms and check out what reviewers are saying. Maybe, that will help make up your mind. Please keep me posted. If it does help you, then I might try it.

Marje293

Jun 01, 2012

To: oldovernight

I relate to you entirely! I joined aqua aerobics recently and pray this helps, and that it is not too late for me. I am 62 and have had this problem since my late 40s.