Hey Quix,
You were not insulting at all. :) Anyway, I am not easily insulted - so you'll have to try a lot harder if you want to insult me :).
Listening to my body is exactly what my coach is always telling me to do - so do join the club :).
I posted about my dr. visit in new post yesterday. We negotiated, and I'm to rest for 3 days (relatively speaking.... cause work still calls - though I got the feeling he would have liked total rest....)... but he knows me well enough to know that I won't... will see neurologist he referred me to on Thursday.... got full electolyte testing plus muscle enzymes... (more details in the other post, plus I did a timeline of sorts).
Take care! You do a phenomenal job here on this forum. Thanks.
Sally
I really hope I wasn't insulting about telling you to listen to your body. It was presumptuous, and I meant it in the best way. Quix
Welcome to our virtual family,
Your very impressive with all you do.My workout for years was chasing 4 kids,now 2 have left the nest and the other 2 work and are not home much.However I do go to a fitness center and PT 3 days a week.
You know your body,just keep listening to it.
I have found with MS it's about conserving energy and doing what you can do,well what your body wants to do.I hate the crash and burn.On Saturday I couldn't get out of bed until 5 pm,which isn't like me.
I would get into a good MS neuro and have them look at your MRI's and do further testing.
It took me 2 years to get a neuro to just listen,I was dx'd in Dec 2006 and after 2 years I have been left with permant residual disabilities.Mainly the legs.I am slowly trying to rebuild them,treadmill and bike work,plus some light weight lifting.
Eat healthy and see a MS neuro.
I see what you mean. But I'll share my concern about the thyroid preparation anyway and you can take it for what it is worth. In the States for a LONG time, and even now with some endo's, Synthroid is the ONLY preparation they will use. Other brands and formulations have had horrible problems with predictable bioavailability. The same dose would be too much for one prescription then inexplicably be too little. The unpredictability was backed up by independent pharmacokinetic testing. In all honesty, this info is probably 10 years old and if you react better to something else then the point is moot.
Your energy boost with "activity" is likely a combination of endorphins and andrenaline. If this is the case, you run the risk (not serious in a life-threatening way) of overshooting your reserves and crashing hard. Maybe this prediction is colored by my experience. My fatigue is borne of vertigo (needing to use my eyes to consciously stay upright - which is enormously fatiguing) and MS which causes an almost insurmountable fatigue. I take a stimulant to fight the fatigue. It allows me to do things like accept an invitation to visit with someone, or do the dishes. If I go too long, the crash is hard and painful and may put me out for several days. So I may be transferring my esperience with fatigue to you. Anyhow, if you keep pushing and it is a neurological fatigue, rather than a hormonal thing, you will find out soon enough.
When I was struggling to stay in pediatric practice I found that I felt the same way, heavy all over, even my hair was tired. I compensated by sleeping more and more. Over the course of about a year I found that my day was spent seeing patients - napping during lunch - seeing patients - napping thru dinner - seeing hospital patients - to bed for the night - Repeat. In order to work a short day I had to sleep 12 hours or more. When my brain quit functioning one morning during a crisis I left medical practice.
You didn't need to hear that. I'm sorry. Should I post this?? (she asks) Yes, info is info. I think the moral in this rambling is take note of what you are needing to do to maintain your life as it is. If you are getting behind, realize that you can do damage pushing beyond the fatigue. Wow, what a stupid thing to say to a triathlete!! Anybody reading, keep in mind that the person writing this may be crazy (Charter member of Hypo Gamma Chondria) But, Sally, do take care.
And....uhh...yes, remember to eat. Eating is a good thing.
Has anyone checked yur electrolytes?
Chris - Chasing your children is a legitimate exercise. I always called it "Aerobic Parenting!"
Quix - confused and out!
Hi Quix,
Hope you're having a good day!
Currently thyroid med is the premade desicated thyroid, with iodine (this one from Canada - started it about 3 weeks ago) - in tablet form. For the past year was on one from Australia, made in a compounding pharmacy.
Here in Philippines, the only thryoid drug available in T4. Not even T3. The reason I started the 'natural' is that on T4 my FT3 was always lower than range. FT4 was also below range, when TSH was around 1. Can get FT4 within range only when TSH is very low. There was a difference in symptoms when changed to the dessicated (I can only describe it as in 'colors became brighter', and helped my moods).
Have got conflicting feedback between doctors: the last endo I saw said she only looks at TSH (not the other results). This is the Dr. who told me not to worry about my symptoms and that they could all be explained by being hyperthyroid (I wish!) and that the visual stuff wasn't a problem though if it annoyed me should could refer me to a neurologist). My old endo (I already went back to him) says TSH is the only things to consider, but that FT3 and FT4 show what's really happening. However he did reduce the thryoid meds to see what happens... anyway, have to retitrate with this new brand.
Now I am currently on about 60% of my previous dose - for the past 3 weeks. Am still having hot flushes! Having one at the moment.... so hot!!!! (though the weather is also hot - and the aircon is having trouble keeping up) I think I am too young for menopause! My energy levels are noticably dropping (even further than usual)... my arms, legs, back, head, all feel so heavy... I am constantly finding myself propping myself up on walls, etc. It is hard to sit up straight. Can overcome it with activity (did the usual weekend training - about 9 hours - but also did a lot of extra sleeping), but as soon as I stop, the heaviness descends again. Cramping is also noticably worse.
Anyway, would welcome any input. Will see Dr. Mike later today.
Sally
I've meant to ask you what you meant by natural thyroid. Is it specially prepared for you? If so I have some thoughts. Quix
Hi,
Thanks for your response. Looking forward to getting to know people here.
Haven't seen a neurologist yet. I guess that is probably the next stop.
Yeah, the tickling sensations feel like goosebumps. Vary over different areas. At the moment it is my face. THey don't alwayas last for long.
Survived my bike ride. Don't seem to be made worse by heat (it is really hot here - today's ride got up to about 40 degrees C). So that's good. But am really tired - almost a drugged out feeling (well don't know what that is actually, but is what I imagine it to be :)). (Eating now... that seem's to be helping... but then I did burn close to 3500 calories today! (Note: don't forget to eat!!)).
Have wondered about possibility of visual migraines. I also get a base of skull headache often these days. A weird kind of painful. But not like a regular headache. Somewhere a cross between sore neck and pressure/pain. That's also something for the neurologist. I told my endo I don't get headaches, cause I didn't consider these "headaches" - but guess I better tell him on Monday.
Hope you all have a great weekend. I am joining a run tomorrow to accompany my friend's 60 yo aunt (she has only recently started running - to accompany her partner who suffered a stroke 6 months ago and got back into running as part of his rehab). My friend will run with the uncle - we want to keep them apart so that they don't complete against eachother. It will be a very slow 10km. :)
Sally
Hi Sally and welcome to the MS forum.
I'm seriously impressed by your althletic resume too! LIke Momzilla, my althetic workout is chasing after my 4 kids all day.
I'm sorry that you are going through all of this uncertainty. You're the only one who knows what's "not right" or normal with your body. I don't believe you are a hypochondriac.
I hope all goes well with your endo appt on Monday. Hopefully, you can see a neurologist to have a look at your MRI.
Take care and welcome again! Pat
Hi, Sally! Welcome!
I remember you before from your comment about Rachel's child. I'm glad your here!
Wow! What an athletic resume! I call chasing my children a workout. I'm impressed. Like Quix has said, it's really significant when an athlete like yourself is having a roadblock like you are with your health, or it can be, I should say. I'm sorry you're having so many symptoms and for so long without any real answers. That's so frustrating.
When I was reading your post (maybe I spend too much time doing this!) I instantly became "Momzilla, M.D." Much of the first blood work part is way over my head, but the eye flashes are all my specialty. I think those may be migraine related, if an ophtho has ruled out neuritis.
It could be a form of either occular migraine or what's called acephalic migraine. I have had both. Neither are serious at all, just highly annoying, particularly the acephalic. Sometimes mine last a couple of weeks and make me quite dizzy. Does that happen to you? The flashes could also be visual snow, sort of like static on a television, which is my sub-specialty. Do you see a pattern here? (I do, because I have visual snow!) This is usually not peripheral, but in the main field of vison. Have you ever discussed these flashes with a neurologist? Migraines and MS are often comorbid.
You could also talk to the neuro about the tickling sensations. Those are not normal. I get them. I am not formally diagnosed with MS, but my one of my health care providers is pretty convinced I have it, and we are trying to get to the right specialist for that elusive diagnosis. Does it sort of feel like goosebumps? I don't want to lead you. That's what I felt like in the beginning. Like I said, I don't know what I have, but I would definitely go for a second opinion.
I don't think you're a hypochondriac. We've all had those feelings, accusations around here. Stick around. You'll hear all about it. We even have a Greek Sorority House for you to join, if you wish. Someone will fill you in, I'm sure.
Anyway, I am glad you popped in again! Feel well. Listen to the good thoughts of the great gals around here (guys, too).
Take care!
Chris*