old hot water test ????

[janbubears]

Hi all

what supposed to happen to u after hot bath or when old remedy of patient put in hot water..

The body reaction and sx are what after ???

jan xxx

[immisceo]

Never fear. The comedy classics filter down to us young'uns too!

[kwarendorf]

For anyone curious...

http://youtu.be/xzYO0joolR0

[kwarendorf]

You made my day! :-)

Kyle

[Artanis12]

Ah!  A man after my own heart! ;-)

(I got better.....)

[kwarendorf]

RE: Hot Water Test

"She turned me into a newt!"

Kyle

[essdipity]

Also, of course, feeling weak, etc., from the heat does not necessarily mean that MS is the cause. There could be other reasons for this--coming down with a bug, heat exhaustion, heat stroke, maybe other situations, so it wouldn't prove anything. Even in the days when this was tried, it was done by a neurologist who had strong reason to suspect MS. But it wasn't safe then and isn't safe now.

This is not something to play around with.

ess

[supermum_ms]

Hi and welcome,

MS was a long long time ago diagnosed by the hot bath test, but it's not a good idea to play around with this if MS is suspected, apart from it actually being a very horrible experience, sometimes it can be dangerous for someone with MS.

Theoretically because heat exposure (Uhthoff's Phenomena) is a very common issues in MS and it causes a "pseudoexacerbation" which is a temporary return or worsening of their MS symptoms and whist it isn't a true relapse, it can actually cause a medical emergency depending on what their symptoms are and or throw an MSer into a full relapse and cause further disability.

The hot water test for MS is no longer used in part due due to medical diagnostic advancement and in part because of the potential harm....  

Cheers.......JJ

[gospdave]

How accurate is the hot water test for MS?
David

[kmunier]

Aloha!

Sometimes I get shocking pains in a hot bath. Normally after I get out of the tub the pain is unbearable following up until the day after. Never makes me sick just pain.

Karrie

[Sarahsmom46]

I'm an MSer who has had it happen and in was in a hot tub. I got in the hot tub and my gym for the first time in a couple years and within a few minutes felt severe tingling and a strange numb feeling that started in my feet and went to my upper abdomen.  It didin't happen everywhere all of a sudden but rather over a few more minutes.  When it got to my chest, I knew I had to get out fast.  Problem was I couldn't get up the stairs to get out.  This nice lady who was sitting on a lounge chair reading and wearing nothing more than a towel saw I was in trouble and helped me get out. That was my LAST time in a hot tub.

Now I know better to keep out of hot tubs, saunas, steam rooms, and even hot weather (for me over 95 degrees).  I do like to take a warm, not hot shower, but bow instead of the intense tingling form 100 degree plus water,  I get weak and my left eye that I had optic neuritis in a few years ago, gets blurry and light looks a little dimmer than normal.  But the weakness is the worst.  I get out of the shower and have to wrap a towel around me and lay in bed for about 10-15 minutes before I can get dressed.  

I just wanted to share my experience with this phenomenon which is called Utiroff's Phenom (sp?).  Other MSers who have this phenomenon may have different symptoms and experiences and maybe they will stop by and share them with you.  

I hope this was helpful.

Julie

[JemmAus]

Hi jan

No it's not everyone...but it is common.

Here's a bit about it with some stats - not sure how accurate they are but gives you an idea.

http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/Uhthoffssymptom.html

[janbubears]

does everyone with ms have this thing with the bath or hot water or is it just some people xxx

jan x

[missy72450]

I loovvvveee a hot bath.... Especially in my jaccuzi. But when I (and I am stupid) figured out I would literally throw up or have to have a fan on me when I took one and sometimes had to have help getting out I knew it was time to stop. I don't even take a real hot shower anymore. So it is not a good idea.

Missy

[janbubears]

oh my goodness

they really did this once ???

I have very shaky limbs and legs and feel extremely weak after a hot bath, thought everyone was like that xxxx

jan xxx

[essdipity]

This test should *never* be done.

Hot water and heat in general slow down nerve conduction, making symptoms worse. MSers find themselves feeling weak and sick. There have been occasions when this has never remitted, leaving the patient in a bad way.

What was done in days of old has been shown to be dangerous. Not something to fool with.

ess