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Shingles pain

by jibs11, May 22, 2007 12:00AM
Hi--

I was diagnosed with shingles last thursday after about 3-5 days of (what i thought was) rib injury pain.  I took 2 aleve on thursday morning (had been taking them all week), which had been helping with the pain, but had an allergic reaction (closed throat feeling), along with (what i thought was ) hives.  Doc said i had shingles, gave me acyclovir, prednosine, and some vicodin.  He told me to follow up this week with my reg doctor.  I did that today, and my doc told me prednosine may not be effective, especially if i got a weird, "wired" feeling from it. He told me to try to stop it and see how i felt.  I am glad i stopped the pred. He also gave me a stronger form of vicodin (norco 10/325 vs 5/500) for the pain.  I just started today.  I still have a deep, throbbing pain in my back and chest, but feel "high" from the norcos.  What can i take to ease the pain but net get all looped from them?
Member Comments (13)

by Iloverusty, May 22, 2007 12:00AM
If you do not want to take the norcos ask the doctor for something not as strong.  Ask about Ultram or Tramadol.  They are both good pain relievers and the fuzzy feeling shouldn't be as strong (not saying it won't, everybody is different).  It is worth a try.  Good luck!

by anjel75, May 28, 2007 12:00AM
To: Lyrica...
This is one of the newest antieleptics they have out on the market right now. I don't have shingles, I have Sciatia and it really helps. However, that isn't one of it's listed diagnosis, but shingles is. They actually advertise it as a shingles pain med.

by obred52, May 28, 2007 12:00AM
To: 1yr later
i had shingles last yr feb i was in hosp for 7 days. it was on my forehead, i was blind for 1month or longer,lost all eyebrow and eyelashs. i am still suffering with this horrid thing. i am still under drs care. i have post herpertic neurlogia. the wind is toture, my hair hurts, i have moments that i feel like electic shocks are hitting my forehead, yet my head is numb, i can't feel the top of my eyelid, only the bottom. i hate this does anyone else suffer with it on face. i need to speak to someone who can relate to this hell i am in..

by more_pills_than_a_pharmacy00, May 31, 2007 12:00AM
You should ask you Doctor about trying Neurontin, it is pretty cheap, they have me on it for the nerve damage in my feet after buring them. On the info the pharmacist gave me, it stated that the main use of Neurontin was to stop the pain of shingles. You would start off with 1 pill the first day, 2 the second, 3 on the third day, and 3 everyday after that. All in a single dose. It also helps with depression caused by chronic pain, kind of a , "2 in 1" pill. As for the pain meds, they are all basically the samething, "hydrocodone", just a different strength, If you do not watch it, they will get so they are not working as well, and it will take more, such as one and a half of the 10 mg pills,(15 mg.) to do the samething that 10 mg. used to do. I have heard people talk about getting pains in their chest or a pounding sinsation when taking narcotics in high doses. Narcotics can cause irregular heartbeats in some people, which can cause chest pain, and even make it feel like there is a pounding in your back or chest. This may also cause breathing problems, or as if you cannot catch your breath. If you are experiencing this, you will most likely also be having problems focusing, or blurry vision, these are all side effects of opoids, or narcotics. They do offer Tramadol, or Ultram, but it has been my experience, that they do little more than OTC, tylenol do.

by PHAWNO, Jun 10, 2007 12:00AM
TRY LYRICA NEW DRUG USED FOR NEUROPATHIC PAIN

by scoobers2, Jun 16, 2007 07:55PM
To: jibs11
lidocaine patches are good to. They numb it...it's called Lidoderm patches you need a script but they work

by 3citybrat, Jul 04, 2007 09:14PM
To: jibs11
I do agree that Neurontin works well for pain.  I have neuropathy in my legs  from diabetes.  I was first given Neurontin 5 years ago, and it seemed like a miracle to me!!  The pain I had was unbearable and I couldnt sleep as a result.  I am so thankful that issue is behind me, I sure hope you find something that will work well for you!  

by idesofmarch, Jul 10, 2007 07:03AM
Lyrica is the newest treatment and Capisine Cream is good too.  You can find the cream with the Bengay type items in a drug store or a Walmart etc.The more you use it the better it works. (Improves with each use, know what I mean?)  I may have spelled it wrong though.  Red & white box OR a Red and Yellow box.  I believe it comes in 2 strengths and maybe a patch now too.  Hope you get to feeling better, it takes time though.

by niels49, Aug 02, 2007 01:17PM
To: obred52
Ouch
I have had a similar experience. shingles on the forhead and in the left eye - the first year was hell on earth.
And 5 years later it is still part of my life. But neurontin made a huge difference once I got the dossage right - it has changed everything. I still feel the wind pain on bad days and it seems like I wake up itchy almost every morning. But I feel just fine most of the day.
The biggest help was finally taking the right dose of neurontin so the pain and itch was manageable. I went for a long time on too low a dose and so felt a lot of pain most days.
It takes a long time for damaged nerves to recover but it does happen eventually - good luck with the pain management and hang in there.

by Heiffer, Aug 22, 2007 09:25PM
Sorry.  Lyrica does not help pain.  Ostensibly, it helps with nerve repair.  I'm taking it with shingles, but would also recommend large doses of B complex and C per day (the B complex every two hours, the C's every 4 hours) but stop the B's at 4 p.m..  Try whatever they give you, but with a grain of salt. You should also take a big E a day to try to avoid scarring. The B's help rebuild nerves (as does Lyrica) and the C's boost your immune system as well as helping with swelling.

The Vicodine does not help my pain -- makes me dizzy and vaguely nauseated and tired -- likely good for bedtime, useless (and perhaps harmful, if you must drive) by day (mine's 7.5 - 500 -- does nothing for the pain).  Darvocet was a joke.  

I have an enormously high pain threshhold (can have teeth drilled and filled with no anesthesia) but shingles is beyond the pale painful.  I am headed to a pain management specialist.

In the meantime, stuff that has helped:  Aveeno baths (colloidal oatmeal) with tepid water (2-3/day); sunburn spray (2-3/day) -- works for a short time, but helps the "electrical shock" thing stop for a bit.

Do not take tylenol in addition to the Vicodin -- it has Tylenol in it and too much is bad for your liver.

If you don't have it, you need Zovirax oinment (an acyclovir oinment) to put on the lesions 5 times per day (I know -- HOW?!?!) --

Also, try to stay out of heat (it's 101 right now where I am!?!?) and baths (very important because the open lesions are easily infected) should be tepid -- not hot or cold.

God bless you.  I know you're in pain.  Please try to take care of yourself.  

by Lagringaa, Dec 28, 2007 11:37PM
To: all the doctors
I am only 38.  I had Shingles about 15 years ago.  I now suffer with extreme lower back pain due to post herpertic neurlogia.  No one can even touch my back its so sensative to the touch.  If someone puts the slightest pressure on my lower back i will jump away and scream in pain.  i walk with an arch when i first stand up due to the pain.  I didnt know what i had for 15 years.  I could not figure out for the life of me why my back felt this way.  Then i went on line and read more about Shingles and the after effects.  I finally after all these years know what i have.  Out of all the 20+ doctors i have seen over the years, you think one of them would have told me what i have, NO.  I have been in pain all these years for nothing.  Accupunture, Chiropractor, physical theropy, sports doctors, back specialist, 2 familiy doctors, etc...  not one could tell me what was wrong.  If i didnt read it for myself i would still be in pain.  Why whenever i tell a doctor that i read about my symptoms online they get upset with me.  They tell me online information is not accurate.  Well, they didnt do anything for my pain all that time.  If i sound angry, yes i am very angry.  All these doctors just brushed me off and sent me home with nothing.  They didnt know what i had.  I just found out that there are doctors called pain management.  Isnt my family doctor supposed to refer me to one if i have this much pain.  I also had to find this out for myself.  I cant wait to get the proper medication from the pain mgt doctor.  

Thank God for the information on the internet

by HiddenPain, Jan 05, 2008 10:26AM
To: Lagringaa and others
I wonder I have similar problems ..had shingles the last two years . I still get little red dots that look like needle pricks but stick up bright red from the skin . When they break out I literly scream I am in such pain and I am aleady on heavy narcotics for chronic back and neck pain . I had very , very good luck with lidocaine patches when I first had the shingles on my torso . I added lyrica on the days they were breaking out and it helped but I literly am so advanced in deterioration from years of pain I sit all day . When the shingles get bad I take the lyrica and am basically comotose in the chair but its better then seeming stark raving mad begging God to take me right then I am in such pain . I developed something called dermagraphia after years on opiates . I also have fibromylgia (fibromyalgia) but all this means nothing to me or the Doctors really it just hurts and seems to cause a situation where I never healed after a series of car accidents and c5/6 fusion . I need help to cope daily but sit alone not even wanting to let people see me . I am so lonely like most of us ...my girl was long gone as soon as I couldnt work any more . But for me since I already was maintenence dosing on opiates when they hit me lidocaine patches and Lyrica helped . YOu have to be careful on the lydicain patches they can od you . I really hate any long acting opiate meds as I always seem to get toxic in time with them and start to od . I much prefer short acting and only take the lowest dose of long term agents I can ..but if you use the lidocaine watch it so it doesnt creap up and make one toxic . I would try them while awake first thing at first before sleeping with them on or rest your body every few days . For me the shingles would just flare up for a few days real bad and thats when I needed the patches or lyrica afterwards in between flare ups I was ok .

Hey were all different what works for one might not for you . They know opiates cuase defeciencies in hormones , over stimulation even cancer in some while others have no problems . The same with dependance some end up never being able to quit willing to travel hours a day to get a methadone cup while others quit and barely break a sweat . I did a detox once and my blood pressure was hitting 190/145 + I had seizures for 10 days with convolsions and the PAWS were more then I could stand for 6 months before the Doctors resinded . I know i have permanent stroke like damage and am mentally changed from use . People need to understand we never asked for this and Doctors need to stop treating us as well as the public like addicts ..even they dont deserve what we go through just from illness .

I have been on opiates daily now for over a decade .My records state my mind has been altered to where it cannot function without the drug its so used to it and believe me it was hell just getting to the point I could function on them . I vomited the first 6 months but was in so much pain didnt care . Every thing else was worse ..I agree with the one person I took darvocet and spit bile and blood up every single morning before I took these . My only complaint is I dont get more support for side effects and am threatened with cold turkey if I even complain that I need it and I do . I should of been put in a ALF a long time ago and have more follow ups but we all know how for profit insurance really works . Surely not for the patient and since the docs get paid by them either do they its too costly too fight for them plus then they never get paid .

by sandymike, Sep 05, 2009 02:57AM
I have shingles. I started having severe pain in my calf.  The pain was so bad i could not sleep even with 5mg of hydrocodone. The pain moved into my feet and up my leg into my calf on the right side. I was even given an MRI but no one could diagnose my problem.  After about 10 days I developed a patch of red lesions in three places on my foot and ankle.  I immediately knew what my problem was. The doctor agreed and gave me Gabapentin 300mg and Valtrex.  Nothing has helped the excruiating pain. I read an article about having an epidural. It is given by pain manageent doctors?  At this point I am wiling to try anything to get relief.  I was told I could have the shingles vacination after I was completely over the shingles.  It is expensive but will be worth every penny if it works.
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