"Well if you are (what you love)
And you do (what you love)
I will always be the sun and moon to you
And if you share (with your heart)
Yeah, you give (with your heart)
What you share with the world is what it keeps of you"
“No one has yet realized the wealth of sympathy, the kindness, and generosity hidden in the soul of a child. The effort of every true education should be to unlock that treasure.”
- Emma Goldman
I agree, positive thinking won't change us in a day. It takes time, we're (at least i'm) addicted and used to bad thoughts, bad vibe, depressed mood...
There's another study which says that if you can stick with an activy for 21 days is easier to become a habit. We must keep trying, whatever anyone thinks it's necessary for getting rid of PATm for at least 21 days
Yes, I was in the worse time of my life.
I developed bad breath, people in college reacted and changed towards me.
My SO at the time couldn't smell a thing but it all started with trust issues.
I stoped trusting this person, we were fighting almost everyday.
My SO was killing me slowly and I became very, very angry and bitter.
I couldn't forget nor forgive the things done.
I became depressed, the world became grey and all I could see was the worst in everything. I projected the mistrust to everyone I knew, my parents, family, college friends. I felt deeply betrayed, I'm not even exagerating.
Because of this i couldn't trust people when they said my breath got better again...so yeah, I didn't have PATM when I was optimist despite my mild anxiety.
Just having some weird discoveries on my own progress. Whenever i say to myself "everything is alright!" the scartchingof nose.the cough..suddenly stops.. But other positive help talk desn't realy help much...as much as when i say "everything is alright!" Really the e......just starting the e....in my mind..stops the reaction. Hope it continues that way cause i am enjoying it.Really.. Thank You God. Anyone who can try it too..and check it out..share your experience..pleeeasse.. Im starting to get goose bumps about it.
having PATM and saying every thing is alright is just like having cancer and saying every thing is alright it will not cure the cancer but will just make you feel better
and because the energy we make is controlled by our brained then this change the energy field
the problem here is you are not working on the root of the problem but you are trying to work on the symptoms
i am sure there was something in your life that made you suffer or at least anxious before PATM started to happen this is what you need to work on then when you are really in peace and happy the energy you make will change and the symptoms people have around you will disappear
what i realize today is PATM is not a disease but it's just our feelings translated into energy and affecting people around us
now i realize that PATM can be a bless or can be a curse because of you really have good peaceful feeling people we really love you for no apparent reason
keep saying every thing is alright and i challenge you it will not work for long time because inside of you you know that every thing is not alright, you will not be able to lie to your self for long time
if you don't believe me tell me why you think that every thing is alright?
when i take vitamin suplymint vegetable fruts patm going more crazy but now i stop all this drama i taking sigrate alcohal (alcohol) i enjoy my self w..t ...f patm reduice now very few people only cough bcoz i take posatabeli now when people cough i laugh i making funny issu patm bcoz it helps to forgot me patm i am going to out side where people are more some people coughing but i am not taking serousely if we fair our mind viberation going sensetive and it catch other people mind think posative cough sound take easy try to understand b coz my engllish is very poor
When you dont want people react bad they react bad?too..this patm are like intrusive thoughts...when u want a thought to ,,disapear" it will became more powerfull but if dont care to much about it the thought will go away.
Eva- good way! but if we finnaly geting attention,what is the next step? Seems nobody want to reveal himself( look about fb, even with alias accounts we are paranoids).
ofcourse you are correct....It is what it is. helping with the symptoms...But just surpruse how it can really change your present isituation when in front of other people... considering that there are other positive self talk you can use..but this works best. im just giving hints to help us make it through..but ofcourse the healing is undoing and cleaning of our bodies..probably of fungus..And ive read from a yoga book that doing yoga (using right breathing and yoga position) can be equivalent to cleaning of water to the nostrils .. .which can be sometime s dangerous . I always have a feeling that some fluid gets left out in the sinusus when i do sinus cleaning............I yoga or deep breathing wil clean our bodies. but again time is a factor..if you want to really heal the source. Its undoing that takes time...and discipline.
anyone heard of magnetic therapy..they use magnets to treat body even kill fungus of the feet.(but for fungus i think they demagnetize the water) So i guess thats explain all the magnetic field that these fungi emits at long distance. probably notreally magnetic field but somehow they are somewhat similar/Some energy fields since they get affected with magnetic therapy..whytever kind of energetic field they release we must get our energy filed s stronger..probably thats why positive thinking works in instant... it strengthens our energy fields... and weakens the oppurtunistic fields of the beasts
@toogenius "you will not be able to lie to your self for long time
if you don't believe me tell me why you think that every thing is alright?"
Yes i also can't lie to my self, but accepting things as they are and be happy is also a good thing and maybe even a necessary thing to do. Telling why you think everything is alright is like forcing yourself to see everything negative.
I understand what you say and agree on finding the thing that caused it. I don't have a worst time in my life like some of you, but maybe the cause is anxiety. I do not have patm now but still think it might be because of some anxiety.
Hi everyone. I live in Brazil and we have that kind of forum there. I was ill for 4 years now I feel like a good human. I was translating that thread about remedy to understand. Still I want to thank patmdies for helping my life very much. I never think about it that way and now it leaves my life. I m grateful
a mouth ago i have an operation in my nose,doctor cut a big rhinopolyp which can increase the nasal secretion in my nose, the nasal secretion may cause bacteria infection, after operation i used nasal spray drug to antibacteria, and my PATM symptom disappeared,people around me became normal.i should clear some dirty things from my nose everyday or PATM re-emerged,so i think PATM is a diease relate to nose ,the bacterias are the initial point.
Exactly about intrusive thoughts. I notice whenever I'm thinking 'things are getting intense in the atmosphere here'... the atmosphere boils up visibly around me. Like my fear translates. As if the thought about anything to do with PATM, creates the evironment.. so yeah.
As for our anonymity - if this researcher did the research from an outsider's perspective - it just takes the right scientist who would gain credibility from saying something about this... they would fingers crossed keep us anonymous..
I think it's crucial we all remain anonymous, even if it was strictly related to illness or something completely out of our control. I think it needs to be other people who are talking about it on the TV etc, the researchers.
We have one person already interested vaguely in the phenomena, the coughing sounds at random directed at musicians... I really think this is our road?
I never had any point where I experienced anything traumatic, normal friends throughout, no family problems (except for the problems caused by PATM), so no problems even during the first two years of reactions..
Would you guys say you were slightly anxious and distanced though?
Just a tip. Being positive all the time sometimes is very tiring to the nerves.. A great support of taking omega3 and/or dha supplements..will make it easier to be positive and happy. Also vitamin b complex helps to in helping us not to be sleepy and depress. Happy positive thinking guys.. Keep it up. We all are here for support and company. Love you all.
i don't think its spiritual and i don't think its physical. Its something else we're experiencing. Its not paranoia. This is actually happening...im talking about the pre recorded tv shows. This is beyond our sense of understanding. I don't know what else to add. I think everyone's said everything and still no cure. Forgot about the patm, what else are you experiencing? Can you put a description to it. This is what im finding difficulty in doing. I know im experiencing something hence the patm but i cant quite understand.
"After it goes away it leaves something on my chest that feels like a block of concrete and I am not able to think clearly or express myself, I just feel totally trapped or unable to communicate, just say futile things to people, it’s horrible. I just had one episode and I am being able to communicate so I guess it’s getting better"
this is one description from one sufferer.
slow down and think about the things you're experiencing.
I feel like im in more places than one. I should be in my body. Can anyone else add a decription to their experiences excluding patm.PATM is effecting us dramatically and i would be interested to know what else you are all experiencing.
I don't know... i think i'm referring to how certain types struggle to open up to others. There just seemed an age where I was always distanced in the relationships I had, even with friends. I just loved my own space and didn't open up very well.
This is a common trait of empaths - I was just wondering if anyone else feels that they acted distant/ didn't open up to others as well..
This patm is a real problem I tried to think positive but that does not Work, but it does help you to remain calm, but it is not a cure.we have to remember that sniffing,coughing, and sneezing is normal so thats why we see them in pre recorded TV.I can tell you that it happens during live TV and over the phone aswell as Web cams.I personally have tried everything and nothing has Worked for me.
I isolated myself as a child so yeah I distanced myself all the time from others. opening up to others - I didn't feel I got a chance to do this (my patm started 10) but I had OCD prior to that in which MY OCD inevitably distanced me.
tell me what you think eva
Myself too, my patm occured in the period when i started to acting more distant, even now im not really open to others.this , disease' seems to affect only certain types of personality...
Tamanna- your started at 10yo? hmm..this is unusual, most of us get this in our teens or twentis. I google it ,,ocd" and i realise I may have Ocd personality disorder...good for you, your ocd was just a disorder and you dont have this personality type.
I read more and dont think i have ocd personality disorder, this is crazy how we think we have a disorder/disease from reading symptoms on internet... how many ppl here believe they have candida without going to doctor...
maybe. i do like my space but it's not like i am struggling to open up.
If i don't open up, it's because i don't want to. I am not someone who want's attention i am rather modest (as a teacher once said to me at about self reflection psychology)
It takes time for i open myself up depending on the situation, atmosphere and people.
However on another topic i do think need to open up more in public and not care much about society, which i don't but can still feel the pressure.
Thank you stucha for the information.
If i can find an over the counter naphazoline spray over here i will try it. for my nose ;)
I often get a runny nose after coming/arriving from outside the cold weather. and when inside one nose wiping will stop the flow.
@all Do people cough etc. when you and they are eating (when having a break)
@all Have you ever noticed any difference when you got your hair cut? I'm not sure but this is the second time i think about it.
I must say I'm getting tired of trying with the diet.
During February I was eating very little and poor nutrition foods (like salt cracker, drinking lots of water, drinking more lemon juice) and also I was eating very very little everyday, I was too anxious for that... However it reduced the reactions.
That's good, right? Except my period didn't came at all!
I only lost 3,5 kilos but I wasn't eating in a healthy way before so..!
I started eating more again, even though I'm having cramps from time to time and my period will problably come next week, my stress became too high. It's the first time in years that I skipped a month.
Not worth the experiment at all.
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