People Are Allergic To Me (PATM) - People Allergic to Me (PATM)

what a blessing, congratulations excellent work sniffedout !!!! "liferegenerator" has helped soooo many people(including me) get started eating/juicing God's yummy fruits and veggies !

sadboyindia

Mar 27, 2013

To: missterre

will pray for your baby..everything will be alright..just dont loose hope.. keep fighting this disease..

WorsethanJob

Mar 28, 2013

To: All

Hi all.
I just want to inform you all that I'm on to some experiment with my thought prossess. For three days now I have been training myself to have some 'no-thoughts' episodes, to prove that what I've always suspected - that PATM is linked to thoughts - is true. Believe me, even if there is no cent spend, it is one of the hardest things to do and I will need your prayers. But after three days of contantly reminding myself that I need to give my brain a break each time I unconciously drift into thought, I'm slowly getting those episodes where my brain just falls blank with no thoughts. This is not yoga but something I'm doing even when I'm walking. And this may sound crazy, but a young boy I live with who would sneeze badly on a daily basis when I'm near him, has not sneezed for two days. I intend to carry on with this experiment for a month or two before I can make my conclusions.

Oleg85

Mar 29, 2013

Guys, I think, is the lack of either cytochrome liver or blood enzymes, when glutathione is not enough, maybe the smell of sage-fermentopathy snizhaetsya.Samaya common deficiency of glucose-6-fosfatdegidrogenazy.Tk with people can not be sugar (except glucose), protein, and phenols in a pro set lekarstv.Inache increased indirect bilirubin, liver does not have time to clean the blood

Girlaghast

Mar 29, 2013

To: Oleg85

yup..hope there would be a complete understading of whats wrong with us..a study

Oleg85

Mar 29, 2013

The smell varies from products, herbal concoctions, drugs, inhaled substances, changing atmospheric davleniya.Zabolevanie transmitted to children autosomal dominant an X-hromosomoy.Takie children are lagging bone age, reduced sex hormones.

yourCall

Apr 02, 2013

Our thought process is not the cause. Yes, our thought process can exasperate our condition by causing stress but the underlying issue is physiologically related.

Girlaghast

Apr 03, 2013

To: all

i think the stomach is filled with fungi..so when were relas our stomach is relax and not in motion..and when were stressed our stomach moves alot thereby causing these fungi to release toxins ...i wonder how it gets to our nose.or respiratory system...

dee167

Apr 03, 2013

To: all

hy guys I am from Nepal 27 m same problem I think the problem is our diet if and morning exercise also important us

Oleg85

Apr 03, 2013

What mushrooms in the stomach?? Immunogram you at least once rented or gastroscopy? People with high hemoglobin smell, bathygastry, thickened blood vessel walls, vegetotativnaya distoniya.I all probably from a lack of oxygen to the tissues, vascular disease or blood supply. gentlemen must be examined, not the theory I like the breed Kell + krov.Pri have a rare blood vascular pathology and as a consequence, chronic zabolevaniy.Est bunch of you people with biochemical education?

ItchyLife

Apr 10, 2013

To: everyone

Hey Guys!

A while ago I recommended you guys L-Glutamine.

L-GLutamine helps to heal the gut..

Anyways I wanted to use this again, because I was feeling weak lately.

But because L-Glutamine is pretty expensive, I have been researching about it. And it seems to be a lot in OATS.. Andd Oatmeal has no Gluten!

So I bought Oats, and you can just mix it with Almondmilk or soy milk (it seems we are allergic for lactose aswel :S). For the sweetness use stevia or make natural peanut butter. PERFECT FOR BREAKFAST!

I have been using this 2 days, and it degreases the PATM symptoms already A LOT! you feel better and you have more energy..

Just try it! My oats where only 40 Cents!

I love this stuff!

X

Oleg85

Apr 11, 2013

I tried, and glutamine and oats, the smell does not see his vliyaet.Luchshe buffer the blood, we have carbon dioxide in the blood of many and perhaps overabundance vodoroda.nekotorye notice the smell of ammonia, which means the protein is not digested, like arginine giperammoniemiyu.predlagayu try

ItchyLife

Apr 12, 2013

To: everyone

Vit B + Vit C! Helps with digestion!

I think the Candida is just a symptom. The leaking gut is something we should be focussing on..Anyways I also wanted to share another thing here that helps me to get my rest..

It is massaging off your heart. This sounds crazy, but it will give you rest (less stress), plus it helps to get more oxygen pumped through your body.. So win win situation.. BE GENTLE!

X

Girlaghast

Apr 12, 2013

To: ItchyLife

yup...massaging my heart helps me..I guess lots of us here have experienced being broken hearted..that is one of the causes of this health condition...a warm massage will make it all better....thanks itchylife for this advice.

aussie12363

Apr 15, 2013

To: Pesoptimist

Hi I've mentioned this ages ago on thIs forum : For me, keeping sulfite preservatives away from my diet helps -- they are heavily in beer, wine processed meats etc etc etc just about everything processed.
Strangely enough, I would breath out something like hydrogen sulfite rotten egg gas after wine or beer consumption etc. I've found dissolvingtheherb turmeric in water at night helps? This could an faulty enzyme pathway thing -- must also have teeth checked for cavities, healthy gums -- perhaps related

aussie12363

Apr 15, 2013

Apple cider also contains heaps of sulfites, like most brewed fermented products, that cause me to breath out a rotten egg like smell

godhelpus99

Apr 15, 2013

To: ALL

The dentist, periodontist, or dental hygienist removes the plaque through a deep-cleaning method called scaling and root planing. Scaling means scraping off the tartar from above and below the gum line. Root planing gets rid of rough spots on the tooth root where the germs gather, and helps remove bacteria that contribute to the disease. In some cases a laser may be used to remove plaque and tartar. .

godhelpus99

Apr 15, 2013

To: All Smokers

It's time to give up Cigarettes and Weed to get your Gum back health again..Dirty Mouth!! Its under the gum line. Try a water pik with hydrogen peroxide to get deep down in the pockets of the gum line. Until you can get to your dentist for treatment.The bacteria is in your mouth!! Hiding out!! Just thinking out loud!! Good Luck and God Bless!!

yourCall

Apr 17, 2013

Hi, All!

I just wanted to share that I've basically almost been PATM free without changing my diet yet (I will when summer rolls around) and just taking supplements. From taking these supplements my PATM is to the point of me not even thinking about it. I am not sure of the exact supplement that has helped me but here are the supplements that I now take daily:

SAMe 800mg
Digestive Enzymes after each meal
Pro-Biotics 30 billion (try not to take around same time as enzymes)
Hair Sking and Nails supplement
Zinc
Omega 3 Fatty Acids
L-Arginine
and just recently I added Co-Q10 and L-Carnitine supplements.

Thank you all! and if anyone takes these supplements please report back with results. God Bless!

yourCall

Apr 17, 2013

Also I forgot one of the most important..

Vitamin B complex! vitamin B12 is the main helping supplement but try to get all B vitamins

Girlaghast

Apr 18, 2013

To: yourCall

hi....just need to ask what is hair sking....typo error.? or im just not familiar?

WorsethanJob

Apr 18, 2013

To: yourCall

To yourcall:
Thanks for posting your recovery plan. Unfortunately for me, my PATM seems to be bouncing back. It's very frustrating. I really don't know what I am doing wrong now because I had almost solved this problem. What's your diet like? When you say you've not changed your diet, are you eating meat, sugar, bread? Do you guys on this forum eat bread? I eat brown bread and maybe it is what is bringing the PATM back.

WorsethanJob

Apr 18, 2013

To: all

To all
When I eat a clove of garlic these days, it sets my whole stomach on fire, hurting so much that it feels as if I've developped sores. But my tummy does not react like this when I eat the other foods. Could it be that garlic is worsening my leaky gut? Anyone on this forum experiencing the same? As I'm typing this post, my two small kids are sneezing badly. It's heart rending.

yourCall

Apr 18, 2013

@Girlaghast It was a typo. I mean Hair Skin and Nails.

@WorsethanJob I eat simple carbs such as sugar and white bread, fast food, meat, very little fruits and veggies, and basically anything and everything but plan on changing it this summer when I am working and have money to afford a healthy diet.

goold

Apr 18, 2013

I when I eat 3 cloves of garlic a day my patm is multiplied by 10 and noticed many more reactions in people, I asked a doctor and he said it was a healing crisis and what the garlic is killing patm but to remove creates many toxins, I am taking garlic 3 days and 3 days if not.

goold

Apr 18, 2013

someone with patm in some Spanish-speaking country??????

goold

Apr 18, 2013

someone tried taking garlic in quantity every day??? just to know if finally expelling patm .... say that garlic is the most powerful natural antibiotic

grateful2011

Apr 19, 2013

To: WorsethanJob,goold

God Bless you - so sorry your patm is back.   I believe your food choices are the cause - u mentioned only one food item, maybe u are also like yourcall -  in your food choices ???   I agree with goold - that u are now having a healing crisis with the garlic - trying to get rid of the patm in your gut. your gut needs probiotics to replace the bad stuff that the garlic is trying to get rid of - however do NOT take garlic and probiotics at the same time.

Natrene's healthy trinity probiotics - best on the planet

for me ( as u all know )  :  no gluten ( this may be in your brown bread ???),
no dairy, no meat, no sugar ( also could be in your brown bread ????),no processed, fast/junk foods

I am a Nutritarian as of January 2013 and still remain PATM free -     I eat fruits, veggies, beans, nuts, seeds

I continue to take my supplements daily - probiotics, l-glutamine powder, turmeric, B vitamins, chlorella, ground flax seed, vitamin D3, etc

also still go to the sauna regularly

be well soon, God Bless - u can do this !!!!

sh__luck

Apr 19, 2013

ive thought about posting to one of these sights for over a year now im a 25 yr old male im from canada this disorder has made me become isolated and lonely ive tried SO MANY THINGS to no avail. I read a post the other day about this chick that thought she had some kinda staff and she bathed in bleach! So i been doing this every other day and honestly it felt like it was getting better to the point where i was barely feeling anything anymore so i worked up the courage to go in public and go figure same s*** so now i am desperate as suicide is now becoming a very real possibility for me, which would be very sad as i have a son that i dont see much due to my condition and i have so much to offer to people!

sh__luck

Apr 19, 2013

i just seen here you guys have it narrowed down to diet and liver function etc. Makes sense as when i was first overfaken by this curse i was going thru some crazy human behavior (I became extremely mal nurished due to extreme drug use) I have been off ALL drugs now for approximately 5 months. Well i still smoke which i honestly think agitates the condition. But at fisrt glance i would appear to be the poster boy for health i look incredibly healthy on the outside but must have some internal damage done still. My condition has most deffinitely improved since i cleaned up my act haha but still drives me frikkin loopy like the thought of never havinh a gf again wtf is this like the ultimate form of punishment from some higher power like a super negative karma????? i read something about some people going green? This will deffinitely interfere with my training but am so willing to try it if there is a possibility of it working oh and do you think protein powder is bad??? Like the six star stuff from wal mart.....

sh__luck

Apr 19, 2013

Haha check this out i think some people will be able to identify with this.. When my condition was really bad back 6 months to a year ago i spent about 3000 dollars on kwellada-p hahahahaha laced up daily for months omg right haha attack of the scabies i thought having no knowledge of my condition.. fail lol stuff probably poisoned me killing my liver making my condition worse oh man what a nightmare...

Omega333

Apr 20, 2013

To: all

Someone once said something about having a tensed/tight/strained stomach right? Today i notice it even more, don't know why but its like i need to put effort to be able to sit or stand with a relaxed stomach or maybe it also has to do with not breathing enough. it feels like my stomach is all ways tight. maybe high/low acid.

Status: still PATM free.

sh__luck

Apr 21, 2013

so i cut gluten completely from my diet as well as dairy i had a good day i believe also cut my smoking by a third had rice for lunch instead of a bunch of grilled cheese sandwiches had porridge for breakfast rather than a bunch of peanut butter toast and sugary cereal oh cutting my sugar intake way down too i hope i dont losr too much weight anyways hope tomorrow is even better its nice to see light at the end of the tunnel lets hope its not just in my head that today was good haha

WorsethanJob

Apr 21, 2013

To: All

Three weeks back I had a urinary tract infection and my doctor prescribed me Doxycyline 100g and Ciprofloxacin 500g. I took this for a week and it cleared the problem. But I suspect these antibiotics are what have brought back my PATM. Maybe it gave the candida in my gut an advantage. Wish me luck in my renewed battle against this evil. Before I sleep today I'll sonar myself in Eucalyptus herbs to detox.

grateful2011

Apr 22, 2013

To: WorsethanJob,all

prescription meds - "cover up"and hide the problem like a blanket - they do NOT take care of the root patm condition - our food choices and supplements take care of the problem from the root !!!

grateful2011

Apr 22, 2013

To: WorsethanJob, all

just heard on a radio health talk show this morning - if you are taking antibiotics

u need to take probiotcs also( to put the good bacteria back inyour body )

- because the antibiotics take out whatever "good" bacteria u have in your body also

Omega333

Apr 22, 2013

To: all, grateful2011, WorsethanJob

yes antibiotics only destroy, they do not heal. Antibiotics might destroy the infection you have to make you better but it could also destroy good bacteria, it will destroy good bacteria and make you maybe more sick after long use.
I agree too use probiotics when taking antibiotics AND after the use of probiotics (if you did not use it together, but still after too for a while).

Today when applying the antibacterial ointment in my nose (nose infection) and slightly rubbing the sides of my nose i immediately got a nose bleed. Not sure if its the antibiotics or my nose infection. I almost never had nosebleeds because of my infection. It could be the use of the antibiotic ointment. Lets see the next day..

I am supposed to use it for a month (!?), it must be a really bad infection.. which i would not even have noticed if i had not asked for a nose check.

WorsethanJob hope you will be patm free again soon and also get to know what caused/get rid of it.

The same for all other PATM sufferers. I don't really know what made my PATM disappear, but one thing is sure. I don't do much at the moment and don't have stress like i would have before if that plays a big role, which i think does in one or another way for every disease.

pogo651

Apr 23, 2013

To: all

Does anyone become so cognisant/paranoid of this condition that a dog barking without other disturbances or cat sneezing (snuffles aside) could be the cause of you? Just wondering. Why should it not affect animals? Their senses are so much more acute. I know they used to smelling other's arses and such but can this odor be so overpowering that they react. I (as do most South Africans) have countless impoverished tramps and beggars ringing the doorbell asking for food, money, etc. and any dog will immediately start fuming at the gate as their unhygienic stench could instill fear and uneasiness because dog's only reactions to any disturbance to their known surroundings is to bark.
Another thing i want to raise is how bad do you think the odor we're emitting really is? What could you compare it to? A decomposing corpse, Raw sewerage, chlorophyll? i'd like to know your views? Often people don't cough, sneeze, clear throats in the presence of a nasty fart or other sick smells so how bad are we really?

sniffedout

Apr 23, 2013

To: all

each of us has our own personal battle with this. we can only do our best to look at ourselves and realise we each have the potential to win this war. go raw, eat natural. start juicing. forgive yourself. have some faith. see that you have something to learn. something within you that needs to be settled to put you on the right path so you can have a purpose. i know it sounds like "lame spirituality" to some. but have some faith in the being that watches your every move and see how life changes. do whatever you can to stockpile your bodies natural life force. pray, meditate. study something. take a holiday. cant afford it? go walking regularly. go to the park, mountain etc. take the time to learn that you are an awesome being that has been granted a prescious gift. find someone to identify with spiritually. or if they find you, then you know its even better.I listen to dan macdonald when it comes to my health. but i wont tell any of you what to do i can only say ask and you will receive.

WorsethanJob

Apr 23, 2013

To: Grateful2011, Omega333,

To Grateful2011, Omega333.
Thanks guys for your encouragement. My renewed fight is already bearing fruit. With the two days of steaming my body with eucalyptus leaves, there is a big improvement. Fewer people are now coughing and sneezing. I can't wait for my vacation to begin next week when I'll stock up on supplements. I just have to beat this thing again.
@Pogo. I don't think we stink that bad as to compare it with corpses or rubbish picking tramps. The issue here is that elusive ingredient in our mild smell that causes PATM. That's the issue. And this ingredient is missing in strong smells like decomposing flesh, farts or the sewage. I don't think PATMers smell that bad. Atleast not me.
But the other issue you raised is true. Years back when my PATM was at its peak, before I even knew that there were other people in the world with this condition, I would make dogs, cows and goats cough. Ever seen a dog dripping on the nostrils?Thats how bad it was. But not now. Now my dogs, my cows, my goats and chickens are all healthy. I guess it goes with the severity. But what the guys are suggesting on this forum is what's beating the smells and the PATM. No meat, no sugar, no dairy, taking probiotics and supplements. God bless

LondonBlob

Apr 23, 2013

Hey man howzit going on the farm there in South Africa?

The key to beating patm is reducing the pathogenic viral, fungal, bacterial load on the body.

the way I did it was with blood electrification, colloidal silver and ozone aka beck protocol. I also did a lot of enemas best ingredient bicarb of soda.
epsom salt baths, liver flushes, more alkaline diet. also soak feet and exfoliate dead skin because this is a hiding place for fungus.

One of the things I had was smelly scalp - this is a fungal infection of the scalp- this is very difficult to get rid of but I got rid of it with a high frequency comb attachment -based on the original violet ray - it produces ozone along with the high frequency current that basically nukes the fungus and bacteria. If I use it on my arm pits it nukes the bacteria and there is no pit smell period even without deo.

I have done some reading on ozone- some people have ozonated olive oil +- 40 minutes, injected a few cc's up the rear and it has dramatically reduced viral bacterial loads on the body over a few weeks and they have the readings to prove it.

so there are many ways to skin a cat

Oleg85

Apr 23, 2013

Fungi are not to blame for zapahe.u us in the gut a lot of acetic acid and propionic acid, little maslyanoy.Propionovaya acid kills fungal infektsiyuV intestines have a lot of staphylococci, modified Escherichia coli, a lot of streptococcal pyogenic streptokokkov.A this is a defect characteristic of phagocytosis fagotsitoza.Takoy glucose-6fsfatdegidrogenazy whereby protifopokazany lekarstva.Maslyanuyu acids can increase Zakofalkom or other drugs calcium butyrate ..

WorsethanJob

Apr 24, 2013

LondonBlob, its nice to hear your voice again after a long time. Living on a farm settlement has been a blessing for me because I don't have to contend with coughing neigbours since they are far from my home. So I only deal with this at my work place as a teacher.
I also had smelly scalp. I solved it with with daily epsom baths and listerine. It's overwhelming what we've done to fight these things. I also did alot of enemas, including lemon and urine enemas. I have managed to dislodge almost all the problems except for one that is proving very resistant- my armpits! I've tried everything but I just can't make my armpits dry. They are always sticky with persitant crawly sensations. This is where my PATM originates and if only I can solve the armpit problem, that will be the end of my PATM, I'm posive about that.
Maybe the high frequency comb attachment you talked about can help zap whatever the hell resides in my armpits, that which produces a gluey substance. Where can I buy it? Are you now completely PATM free?

WorsethanJob

Apr 24, 2013

LondonBlob, its nice to hear your voice again after a long time. Living on a farm settlement has been a blessing for me because I don't have to contend with coughing neigbours since they are far from my home. So I only deal with this at my work place as a teacher.
I also had smelly scalp. I solved it with with daily epsom baths and listerine. It's overwhelming what we've done to fight these things. I also did alot of enemas, including lemon and urine enemas. I have managed to dislodge almost all the problems except for one that is proving very resistant- my armpits! I've tried everything but I just can't make my armpits dry. They are always sticky with persitant crawly sensations. This is where my PATM originates and if only I can solve the armpit problem, that will be the end of my PATM, I'm posive about that.
Maybe the high frequency comb attachment you talked about can help zap whatever the hell resides in my armpits, that which produces a gluey substance. Where can I buy it? Are you now completely PATM free?

WorsethanJob

Apr 24, 2013

LondonBlob, its nice to hear your voice again after a long time. Living on a farm settlement has been a blessing for me because I don't have to contend with coughing neigbours since they are far from my home. So I only deal with this at my work place as a teacher.
I also had smelly scalp. I solved it with with daily epsom baths and listerine. It's overwhelming what we've done to fight these things. I also did alot of enemas, including lemon and urine enemas. I have managed to dislodge almost all the problems except for one that is proving very resistant- my armpits! I've tried everything but I just can't make my armpits dry. They are always sticky with persitant crawly sensations. This is where my PATM originates and if only I can solve the armpit problem, that will be the end of my PATM, I'm posive about that.
Maybe the high frequency comb attachment you talked about can help zap whatever the hell resides in my armpits, that which produces a gluey substance. Where can I buy it? Are you now completely PATM free?

LondonBlob

Apr 24, 2013

sounds like there is something not right in your pits - my best advice is to go see a naturopath who can diagnose you.

I don't know if they sell high frequency rays in SA, they do in USA and eastern europe, however for what you described I don't think the new ones would help perhaps the original ones from the 1930's would work because they are more powerful but they cost around £400 re-furbished. I have one by the way.

have you thought of getting a colloidal silver generator and making your own colloidal silver? much cheaper that way. You can put the colloidal silver in a spray bottle and spray your pits or get big dollups of cotton wool and tape them under your arms and wet them with colloidal silver - leave on over night every night for a few weeks. people have fixed their fungal nails by doing a similar thing. Also a little colloidal silver under the tongue will get into your system and start reducing viral bacterial and fungal loads.

LondonBlob

Apr 24, 2013

To: Oleg85

your posts can't be read please get a better language converter. It feels like something is trying to break through white noise from the other side.

LondonBlob

Apr 24, 2013

yes I have been patm free for sometime now

some good resources for you to read is Walter Last's web site 'health science spirit' and michael coyle's fungus pdf. both easily found with google.

a lot of my time is now spent on studying end times and getting ready for the departure of the saints. :)

Oleg85

Apr 24, 2013

Wiping KMno4 solution helps the smell of leather. it is strange that you do not understand my message, I understood your

EsJay31

Apr 24, 2013

To: nearthecrossdiva

Story of my life, almost completely

Omega333

Apr 24, 2013

To: Oleg85

Thanks for posting :) but some of your posts are a little hard to understand. Just saying, in case you ask yourself why no one reacts.

EsJay31

Apr 24, 2013

First time poster here, uhhhhhhh.... the beauty of social media. Knew I wasn't the only one, sad to hear it's so many others. It's crazy. Ok, I've dealt with this for a fairly long time, and being calm is definitely vital and the first and most important step to get out of this...thing that plagues us all. We all kno eating healthy is important to any lifestyle but some of things you guys suggested has be helpful and appreciated so I'll continue to look out for your suggestion. But you got to relax people. I know it's hard too do when so much allergic reactions is going on around you. As I say this my mom is in her bed coughing right now and it's such a devastating feeling. Keep your mind at ease as much as possible. You can't control others body so focus on yours and just enjoying life the best way u can

Girlaghast

Apr 26, 2013

To: EsJay31

thanks fr ur advce

vs_0511

Apr 27, 2013

To: ALL PATM Sufferers

I endured this PATM off and on for about 13 years....it was awful at times...But now i have a handle on it and am in control....I am PATM free for most of the time 95% of the time...

What i did

1) Primarily veg diet with lot of veggies
2) Gets lots of sleep at least 8 hrs a day
3) Work out regularly and sweat it out...
4) Do meditation or yoga to de-stress
5) Stay carefree and ignore the problem
6) Stay calm and not take any stress

i would say sleep really did the trick for me...my system is calm
and i deep breathe if i see the problem cropping up.....this
controls the symptoms...

In fact now i am more or less PATM free

please ignore the problem...do your basics right ...stay calm
deep breathe...donot carry the world on your shoulders...
sleep more....eat right....and exercise....stay veg if possible...
get some sun...

this really helps.....

Girlaghast

Apr 27, 2013

To: all

anyone tried laminine.....its expensive in our country....

goold

Apr 28, 2013

patm always have had all the same problem, talk to the doctors and tell you that this is not possible but all of us here know it's real, I've been thinking and to finally solve this problem it is necessary to find out exactly who is patm but with evidence to show and so to have a drug that eliminates

patm we have in the skin, urine, feces, etc. What happens is that when we make an analysis of these common diseases just looking, I have been reading about microbiology and crop evidence as samples, dyes used to view certain bacteria and many tests that we have done .... is scientifically impossible if patm not seen on some analysis, what happens is that you are looking for with the appropriate test

all the people that we also know that patm patm clean clothing, sheets, powder house, car and all that is in us, I have seen on the internet that there are industrial laboratories that analyze all these things, is there logically if paym will come out in the analysis, the only downside to all this research is the price that all industrial and specialized analyzes can cost about $ 3,000!! I already took a lot of money spent on supplements, new clothes, cleaning, drugs etc and still with patm

I think this idea is patm that would end with this forum and all this suffering, we will not know how many in total, but among many people would not touch a lot of money per person and we could finance between us or if anyone has a good position can finance economic and ... Please comentenme that seems this idea

grateful2011

Apr 28, 2013

To: goold, everyone

  new addition to my daily choices:



                   plant based  digestive enzymes --  before each  meal

enjoy your rainbow filled life, God loves u always !!!!!

sniffedout

May 01, 2013

To: grateful2011

was wondern when you would add those!!! gutsy effort!!

grateful2011

May 01, 2013

do u take digestive enzymes ?? what is your experience with them ?

I like your play on words : "gutsy effort " (smile)

God Bless

dreamer013

May 01, 2013

To: for all

im still hoping to have a cure for this kind of weird disease. Hoping that someone believes on us and help us.:(

pogo651

May 01, 2013

To: all

Calm vs Cognisant, Solution?

ItchyLife

May 02, 2013

To: everyone

hee Guys!

i have been doing research on an on.. ;)

My theory is that this is caused by skin candida in the nose.

When it is in the nose.. your inhaling all the time the allergens/ yeast--> not enough fresh oxygen --> leaky gut --> toxic overload liver/ kidneys.

Anyways I tried cleaning the nose with green soap, the strange thing is when I do this is that I feel like I am breathing normal/ deeper then I normally do..

You guys have an white nose inside?

I have had this started when I took all the hairs out of my nose.

X

ItchyLife

May 02, 2013

To: everyone

A docter also said a while back that I had Folliculitis. (not in the nose btw).

x

yourCall

May 03, 2013

To: ItchyLife

You need to check your logic because that makes absolutely no sense.

There is no way that the sole onset of this disease is simply the airways being exposed to candida. Each and every one of us is exposed to tons of allergens and toxins each day. It is caused by a more complex autoimmune response than a simple allergy problem.

It begins with our chemistry...the way our body breaks down difference compounds within our digestive system. This could happen to us gradually over time or as a result from a traumatic event. That isn't to say that quite simply our digestive system is out of whack. A different bodily system not functioniong correctly could have caused the digestive system to be faulty. Thus, our digestive system being unable to break down these toxins realeased from our bodies is the culprit of the coughing and sneezing we see in others.

As difficult as it is to say, this outward causing symptom may not be as horrible as it seems. We may have a deeper much more serious problem within our bodies...

ItchyLife

May 03, 2013

To: yourCall, everyone

You say it yourself:

"Thus, our digestive system being unable to break down these toxins realeased from our bodies is the culprit of the coughing and sneezing we see in others. "

Oxygen is necessary for Digestion...

When there is not coming healthy oxygen in too our body's, our digestion is not healthy..

It is quite serious to have an candida in your airways (nose&mouth).. The deeper problem is the leaky gut..

Breath deep in too your belly, what do you notice, when you do this around people?

X

grateful2011

May 03, 2013

To: yourCall, everyone

yourcall   -   I love your  brilliant, revelaton filled comment :

  " as difficult as it is to say, this outward causing symptom may not be as horrible a it seems  - we ma have a deeper more serious problem within our bodies "

Amen, Amen - I agree 1000% yes !!!! As I look back,  I view the PATM as a gift now - it was an alarm system going off - to let me know that there is something horribly wrong in my body - my body was crying out for help

I am sooo thankful,  at that particular point in my life - 2011 - I was able to be sensitive enough - to those people - God Bless them always - who were
affected by my PATM condition and were coughing, sneezing, rubbing their noses etc. - and for me to then slowly, consistently, google searches , find this awesome forum and learn from all of you and youtube vids

decide to make changes in my daily food choices and add supplements, go to sauna - fruits,veggies,nuts and seeds - stop the fast food/junk food as much as possible - make it an event rather than a daily habit !!!

I got my health back and am regenerating my body , thank you Jesus !!!

everyone can do this, one step at a time with God's strength and courage !!!

thanx again yourcall, u rock !!!!!

hopefulman89

May 06, 2013

Hi my dear best, lovely and strong friends. I’m back again. May our lord jesus christ and saint mary bless you and all people all around our wonderful world.

sniffedout

May 06, 2013

To: grateful2011, all

YAWEH! ALWAYS pain before a child is born!!! but what a beautiful thing it is! ALWAYS dark before the dawn!! many of us are still waiting to see that bright sunlight beaming upon us. Have faith, listen to natural healers, stick to those who are loving. If you don't love yourself yet get on with figuring out how to, one way is to have some faith and see how much your creator does!

HIS LOVE IS LIKE A DROP IN THE OCEAN!

Fadhley

May 07, 2013

To: everyone

hey guys long time no see.... Its been a long time since I post some comment here... I read some of your guys conversation about PATM and the word "low stomach acid" really does interest me.....  I did a few search....I FOund this forum....

http://www.ehow.com/way_5365103_food-eat-low-stomach-acid.html

The most interesting about this forum...The thing what they say about salt that is good for out liver and stomach

   Because I dont have a real sea salt... I just use the usual convinient store salt product.... 4 rm in my country....  4rm=1.5 dollar ...LOL...

    Everyday I drink 2 glass warm water with 1/6 tea spoon of salt in every glass... In the morning and the night....

At the first time I drink...I feel my body itching everywhere.... even know i still feel a bit itchi....this is unusual cause I often exercise untill i sweat to my bone....and i dont feel that way of itching....

After the second day....I do it again...I also take a dump a few time.... I feel it was weird and unusual...cause i usually only take a dump 1 times in every 3-4 day...
after I asked my father... he said normal people take dump in 1-2 day...
(o.0) lol

Mybe i do have low Stomach acid.......

But it whould be better to get uno supplement or anything alike....

Thats All i have to say....

ItchyLife

May 07, 2013

To: everyone

Hee guys,

I wanted to share something with you guys for breakfast or whenever your home and hungry:

Uncooked (or slightly baked) *Oats with (greek) yoghurt and fruit, cinnamon..

This seems to be the most relaxing breakfast for my day.

Try it! It tastes really good

X

tamanna99

May 08, 2013

To: everybody

I've experienced the same thing for 6 years.
i'm form London
anybody here from London?
my number>>> ********918

why3

May 09, 2013

To: all

i'm know this is a physical issue and I'm glad to see a lot of people have changed their diets and are doing much better here. Does anyone see a psychiatrist or counselors/therapist to help you with these symptoms or the depression that you have developed b/c of these symptoms. I have been seeing a therapist and recently a psychiatrist for this. They want to say I'm schizophrenic now b/c of my patm beliefs. but I found this disorder which I think is way closer to what we "might" have which is called OCD or Olfactory Reference Syndrome. Most of use claim we smell weird smells but we don't know where it's coming from right? Mine is a burning smell that I smell on occasion and it's follows me anywhere I go. I followed me over 3000 miles when I moved away from my home town. The PATM is still there in my situation and it hasn't gone away. Has anyone taken depression meds or anti psychotic drugs for this PATM? Let me know what you guys all think about Olafactory Reference Syndrome and do you think our issue could be related to OCD???
Thanks

why3

May 09, 2013

To: Pesoptimist

I know exactly what you're talking about!!! I'm thinking along the same lines as you are. I've experienced all those types of reactions from others...

why3

May 09, 2013

To: pogo651

Yes, I think animals pick up on our condition quickly than humans. I walked past a cat and it started sneezing repeatedly, one sneeze after another...it was crazy. And dogs bark a lot. I'm even noticing how it's affecting frogs and birds. If i move away..the frog stops...If i move forward the bird stops (in my apt.). It's weird! they stop immediately and it's no joke and no i'm not crazy...it's true!

why3

May 09, 2013

To: all

Maybe the people who cough have OCD. Right now I'm in a food court and this guy keeps coughing every sentence when he talks. he can't stop. we're sitting close by. He's rather obese. Maybe he has a tick. It's not us

why3

May 09, 2013

To: all

i'm confused. these are just thoughts... hopefully they will help someone

88099

May 09, 2013

To: why3

NO, not just thoughts.

88099

May 09, 2013

To: 88099

woops sorry jumped the gun there I meant to say that what you are experiencing is real. I have the same problem.

88099

May 09, 2013

To: 88099

Your state of mind does have to do with it at times but it cant be a accident that most people have the same reaction over and over again. I saw someone post a vid on you tube with a few people showing signs. I could do the same thing but since doctors cant diagnose it then they cant treat it.

Girlaghast

May 10, 2013

To: why3

this is a lot of suffering for all of us when i go to the bathroom and take a seat in the toilet..i still cover my nose because i dont want my papa or brother to cough.and take a breath of my toxins coming from me and passing through small opening in the bathroom..but..honestly. i'm guilty of eating a lot of junk...softdrinks .... biscuits..icecream dairy..theyve been a habbit of mine..really hard to break ..because upto now..even though i know i need to change my diet so maybe i can renew my health..still temptation gets to me...and been breaking my diet for the past 5 months. my duration for controlling my eating cant last a day.....=( it's really a struggle...but i'm not loosing hope.. i just pray that if I get through a strict diet for sometime i hope i could be like gratefull2011 and someothers in the forum who claim healing through diet and some supplements.. but for me ...sticking to my plan diet is a struggle..but ill try again tomorrow ..no soda and sweets..so help me God. =)

Omega333

May 10, 2013

To: all

I do not think it's Olafactory Reference Syndrome, at least not for me. I do not claim that i smell weird smells.

The only smell related thing i have is a bad taste/little smell in my mouth that other people in the area don't smell i think. This did not start together with PATM and is real. It worsens when i do not eat for hour(s), the longer i do not eat the stronger the bad taste gets. In the morning after waking up it's much worse and people can smell it, but this could also be a normal bad breath like most people have in the morning, which disappears after eating (and brushing). ...just like the bad taste disappears after eating again o.O but it comes back throughout the whole day.

Girlaghast

May 11, 2013

To: all

me too.. i dont think its something psycological...i wish it was...but unfortunately..its rea....its science...its physiologic..people do react to something we emit in the air.... for me..i dont have a smell but one thing is my nose when i stretch the nose hole down ..i could smell fecal odor...although its just slight smell..but its so gross..i think and hopefully people dont smell it... i think that smell in my nostril has a corelation why i have this patm...anyone who can smell fecal odor inside their nose..its like in the lower part of the nostril...

Fadhley

May 11, 2013

To: everyone

hey guys..I KNow how to solve patm problem.... eat or drink boiled garlic ....
Why i say this.... cause garlic is a natural de-toxic properties.... GOogle it if u dont believe.... when I say de-toxic properties.... yes our problem is the toxic problem.... This is because our liver does not work well because of too much working from detoxicify our food... too much stress.... and too much toxic....
As addition.... I did this way of drinking in the last 2 days... ANd in that two days... i went to school.... ride a bus.... and went eating at KFC....guess what...miracle happen ....IF u wanna know if im stress or not... I whould like to say that i have school and girl problem so im pretty danm stress.... And of course with all that PATM thingking.... Im 95% free only because with all that stress that effect my liver.... Some of you guys whould think this is rediculous... but Still.... IT wont kill if u try.... :)

sniffedout

May 11, 2013

To: all

Hello All!!!
Girlaghast you have great honesty. That is a strength of yours. be honest to yourself and dont allow anything to affect your diet, I suggest finding out what blood type you are so that you know exactly what foods youre body will run optimally at. I have been a vegetarian for the last 2 months now and just found out that I am a type A actually the i am closest to the teacher type in the A group. This means that i function best on a vegetarian diet. This explains why I feel so good. Type A is also susceptible to digestive issues (overgrowth of bacteria). I believe that one of the keys is restoring our digestive systems to a healthy condition. This ay explain some benefits from the garlic which does have effect on toxicity as we ll as microbial flora. Garlic is good for us! However correct diet is also a must so find out your blood type. There is no quick fix, it takes time to retain the balance. you are young so start now. There are great things in store for you, if you use and apply knowledge dont let anything hold you back.

Sick_Disease

May 11, 2013

To: everyone

Anyone fell there's stages in this condition. At first it only affects a small percentage of people, i'm at a stage where everyone pretty much reacts to me in a certain way or form.
I always seem to be very itchy from the nose to the face area with tingly irritating sensations after i eat which i didn't acquire at the earlier stages (First 5 years) . I'm just waiting for the stage where animals react to me then i would lose all hope.
I have tried many different supplements over the years and these have probably contributed in the acceleration of the condition which seem to get worse by the day. I dont have anymore confidence i just lock myself indoors as much as possible, I cant form any type of meaningful relationship with anyone, hearing someone react to you

Fadhley

May 11, 2013

To: Sick_Disease

well I know how u feel.... those feeling ounce overhelmed me at the first time i notice that i have Patm disease.... everyone say bad thing about me and don't like to get near me.... I ounce also think about killing myself... BUt if it wasn't my family and my religious... I think i wont be here anymore... As time goes by.... I think and told myself.... "will I be like this forever... till I die" and I said to my self with fury "No".... Thats why Im 95% free Patm right now... without even any supplement... cause i dont have job or money to buy it.... I use only simple food that have in my house that my father brought..... and of course at first i fail a few times.. and few time also I almost give up.... But my will become boosted after i Make promise too my self That i will breaktrhough this problem after my mom died from serious disease.... ANd now after 3 month after those promise...im 95% free patm....And with what I use to be free... "Garlic"... just simple... garlic....I already post about this garlic yesterday.... try reading it if u wanna know how i do it...

Girlaghast

May 12, 2013

thanks for the motivating advice. ill keep it in my heart..and regain my strenght.

Girlaghast

May 12, 2013

To: Sick_Disease

have you tried the no sugar no soda diet..maybe start at that...

sniffedout

May 12, 2013

No sugar is a must. This thing isa parasite or parasites (bacteria) so dont feed them. They love sugar. as soon as i have too much sugar people will start reacting. If you find out your blood type you will know what foods to avoid. just research it on the internet. You can do this! In australia its free to test your blood type. I hope you can do this. It is a start to begin feeling better which is most important. Just to feel better will enable you to function well enough in life to carry on the fight to permanently rid yourself of this condition. I believe in you. Ive watched you post so many comments. i hope you can take control soon. Be strong.

grateful2011

May 12, 2013

God Bless you Girlaghast !!!! I have been where u are - it is sooooo hard to break the food addictions - U CAN STILL DO THIS - one step at a time !!!!

for me - I wanted my life back , where I could be around people WITHOUT any negative allergic reactions from them - I wanted this life again, free from PATM

I wanted the above MORE, MUCH MORE -

- than my love ( which was daily) for junk food, fast food, fried food, processed food, ice cream and dairy products, foods with gluten, meat etc

God Bless you with strength and courage to continue to take this one day at a time - u ca do this, God is with you !!!!!

Fadhley

May 12, 2013

To: everyone

A wise man ounce said... The most powerful people in the world, is the people who knows how to be patient ... So be patient at what the world ready for ya... you Wont regret it... Im a PATM patient for 2 years know...

Girlaghast

May 12, 2013

To: gratefull2011; sniffedout

thankyou guys......you 2 have been a light in the dark for all of us here...
sorry for me breaking down...it's just that im starting to feel so low for not controlling
my eating habbits and at the same time having all the people around me get involved specially
the old people..its hard not to be affected and i dont know if i could get back to work with patm lurking and fullblown ...i will get through this...as you said.. thanks..pips.....and hopefully all of us here will get healed and breakfree and
be normal again.I need to feel and be the way i WAS..get back what I once have.....ill take that as my motivation..thanks again.

sniffedout

May 12, 2013

Persevere in prayer for, may you get to know the True God and see he gives in abundance to those seeking him earnestly. See outside the smallest plant, weed, herb, tree that is growing is an amazing creation and an amazing wonder of the Almighty! All vegetation is edible in different quantities and many are used for healing different symptoms. You can live of the wild and heal yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcmTK-g8EHc

Girlaghast

May 12, 2013