GirlA---you just brought up two important points that I am trying to look into more..."it"/the orgie is most likely some kind of fungus that like a vampire uses energy (electricity in environment that gets in our bodies plus our "energy" fields, like you say) to sustain itself, and yes,oxygen acts as some sort of "ground" (like the grounding wire in a three-pronged socket) to neutralize it to some extent.
"it" causes minute tremors throughout my body, i can feel feel them and they cause enough of a disturbance to set off the smoke detectors (one chirp each time, almost just like a jolt being delivered to it) and all of the dogs in the neighborhood...I used a grounding mat last night (wired into the grounding hole in socket) and I could literally feel the tremors becoming less and the detectors/dogs were ALOT calmer too (not completely gone yet)
so my theory is that if i keep drawing away some of this electrical charge that the fungus feeds off of and craves, i can weaken it...still need to kill it with some other means, may not be enough just to restrict it's electrical intake, but it will help, I'm hoping
I agree the explanation a combination of psychological, spiritual, science and the supernatual...
And I agree toogenius - the worst coughing I ever got from people are when I've had the thought clear and loud 'please don't cough please don't cough'. That's why I kinda figured out pretty early not to be thinking that.
Titanium, the reddit article is interesting.. I think we're getting more 'intuitive and spiritual these days, somehow not to our advantage.
The thing with positive thinking, if I try hard I'll have two bad, depressed days after a positive 'loving everything' day as if to balance all the chemicals out - sometimes I think thoughts are sadly out of my control.
My head is way too chaotic to read something about positive thinking and my life's suddenly fine. I think certain artisan personality types lack the visual right side brain to really do all that positive thinking and have it work. Otherwise this could be a walk in the park.
.. that's why diet, exercise, sun,... good physical lifestyle.
I just really hope it's about all of us having that significant lifestyle change... one event happens to all of us and we just NEVER think about this crap again.
In the meantime, it's learning to deal with things
I actually worry a lot more about people looking at me like i'm a nervous wreck as much as the coughing these days :( I worry heads will follow where I walk etc.
He mentions certain people do it loudly to annoy musicians, just because it's quiet, that coughs double at certain concerts at certain times.. and that musicians get disturbed by it.
I think it would be a good thing to pose this to him in the right way... e.g do you think they're trying to disturb the musicians, what's in a cough?
A lot of people are being bothered by this 'coughing in public' phenomena...
And then we finally mention, a lot of us - sensitive types literally can't live because of it...
The objective reality of this world is solely produced by the human imagination, in which all things exist.
Search on youtube for:
Just Believe! Your Faith Is Stronger Than You Think (law of attraction)
I'm sure you have all seen people who strongly believe in something and are capable of accomplishing great things.
Instead of the usual try to act kindly to people that react, "give a little love" do small positive things like saying 'bless you' or help them with something small when possible, greet people, keep the door open for people, have a smile on your face and see if anything changes or if anyone react differently afterwards. Or if you dare maybe even try this:
search on youtube for: Amazing free hugs Belgium 2013.
"If you give a little love you can a little love of your own"
"Well if you are (what you love)
And you do (what you love)
I will always be the sun and moon to you
And if you share (with your heart)
Yeah, you give (with your heart)
What you share with the world is what it keeps of you"
“No one has yet realized the wealth of sympathy, the kindness, and generosity hidden in the soul of a child. The effort of every true education should be to unlock that treasure.”
- Emma Goldman
I agree, positive thinking won't change us in a day. It takes time, we're (at least i'm) addicted and used to bad thoughts, bad vibe, depressed mood...
There's another study which says that if you can stick with an activy for 21 days is easier to become a habit. We must keep trying, whatever anyone thinks it's necessary for getting rid of PATm for at least 21 days
Yes, I was in the worse time of my life.
I developed bad breath, people in college reacted and changed towards me.
My SO at the time couldn't smell a thing but it all started with trust issues.
I stoped trusting this person, we were fighting almost everyday.
My SO was killing me slowly and I became very, very angry and bitter.
I couldn't forget nor forgive the things done.
I became depressed, the world became grey and all I could see was the worst in everything. I projected the mistrust to everyone I knew, my parents, family, college friends. I felt deeply betrayed, I'm not even exagerating.
Because of this i couldn't trust people when they said my breath got better again...so yeah, I didn't have PATM when I was optimist despite my mild anxiety.
Just having some weird discoveries on my own progress. Whenever i say to myself "everything is alright!" the scartchingof nose.the cough..suddenly stops.. But other positive help talk desn't realy help much...as much as when i say "everything is alright!" Really the e......just starting the e....in my mind..stops the reaction. Hope it continues that way cause i am enjoying it.Really.. Thank You God. Anyone who can try it too..and check it out..share your experience..pleeeasse.. Im starting to get goose bumps about it.
having PATM and saying every thing is alright is just like having cancer and saying every thing is alright it will not cure the cancer but will just make you feel better
and because the energy we make is controlled by our brained then this change the energy field
the problem here is you are not working on the root of the problem but you are trying to work on the symptoms
i am sure there was something in your life that made you suffer or at least anxious before PATM started to happen this is what you need to work on then when you are really in peace and happy the energy you make will change and the symptoms people have around you will disappear
what i realize today is PATM is not a disease but it's just our feelings translated into energy and affecting people around us
now i realize that PATM can be a bless or can be a curse because of you really have good peaceful feeling people we really love you for no apparent reason
keep saying every thing is alright and i challenge you it will not work for long time because inside of you you know that every thing is not alright, you will not be able to lie to your self for long time
if you don't believe me tell me why you think that every thing is alright?
when i take vitamin suplymint vegetable fruts patm going more crazy but now i stop all this drama i taking sigrate alcohal (alcohol) i enjoy my self w..t ...f patm reduice now very few people only cough bcoz i take posatabeli now when people cough i laugh i making funny issu patm bcoz it helps to forgot me patm i am going to out side where people are more some people coughing but i am not taking serousely if we fair our mind viberation going sensetive and it catch other people mind think posative cough sound take easy try to understand b coz my engllish is very poor
When you dont want people react bad they react bad?too..this patm are like intrusive thoughts...when u want a thought to ,,disapear" it will became more powerfull but if dont care to much about it the thought will go away.
Eva- good way! but if we finnaly geting attention,what is the next step? Seems nobody want to reveal himself( look about fb, even with alias accounts we are paranoids).
ofcourse you are correct....It is what it is. helping with the symptoms...But just surpruse how it can really change your present isituation when in front of other people... considering that there are other positive self talk you can use..but this works best. im just giving hints to help us make it through..but ofcourse the healing is undoing and cleaning of our bodies..probably of fungus..And ive read from a yoga book that doing yoga (using right breathing and yoga position) can be equivalent to cleaning of water to the nostrils .. .which can be sometime s dangerous . I always have a feeling that some fluid gets left out in the sinusus when i do sinus cleaning............I yoga or deep breathing wil clean our bodies. but again time is a factor..if you want to really heal the source. Its undoing that takes time...and discipline.
anyone heard of magnetic therapy..they use magnets to treat body even kill fungus of the feet.(but for fungus i think they demagnetize the water) So i guess thats explain all the magnetic field that these fungi emits at long distance. probably notreally magnetic field but somehow they are somewhat similar/Some energy fields since they get affected with magnetic therapy..whytever kind of energetic field they release we must get our energy filed s stronger..probably thats why positive thinking works in instant... it strengthens our energy fields... and weakens the oppurtunistic fields of the beasts
@toogenius "you will not be able to lie to your self for long time
if you don't believe me tell me why you think that every thing is alright?"
Yes i also can't lie to my self, but accepting things as they are and be happy is also a good thing and maybe even a necessary thing to do. Telling why you think everything is alright is like forcing yourself to see everything negative.
I understand what you say and agree on finding the thing that caused it. I don't have a worst time in my life like some of you, but maybe the cause is anxiety. I do not have patm now but still think it might be because of some anxiety.
Hi everyone. I live in Brazil and we have that kind of forum there. I was ill for 4 years now I feel like a good human. I was translating that thread about remedy to understand. Still I want to thank patmdies for helping my life very much. I never think about it that way and now it leaves my life. I m grateful
a mouth ago i have an operation in my nose,doctor cut a big rhinopolyp which can increase the nasal secretion in my nose, the nasal secretion may cause bacteria infection, after operation i used nasal spray drug to antibacteria, and my PATM symptom disappeared,people around me became normal.i should clear some dirty things from my nose everyday or PATM re-emerged,so i think PATM is a diease relate to nose ,the bacterias are the initial point.
Exactly about intrusive thoughts. I notice whenever I'm thinking 'things are getting intense in the atmosphere here'... the atmosphere boils up visibly around me. Like my fear translates. As if the thought about anything to do with PATM, creates the evironment.. so yeah.
As for our anonymity - if this researcher did the research from an outsider's perspective - it just takes the right scientist who would gain credibility from saying something about this... they would fingers crossed keep us anonymous..
I think it's crucial we all remain anonymous, even if it was strictly related to illness or something completely out of our control. I think it needs to be other people who are talking about it on the TV etc, the researchers.
We have one person already interested vaguely in the phenomena, the coughing sounds at random directed at musicians... I really think this is our road?
I never had any point where I experienced anything traumatic, normal friends throughout, no family problems (except for the problems caused by PATM), so no problems even during the first two years of reactions..
Would you guys say you were slightly anxious and distanced though?
Just a tip. Being positive all the time sometimes is very tiring to the nerves.. A great support of taking omega3 and/or dha supplements..will make it easier to be positive and happy. Also vitamin b complex helps to in helping us not to be sleepy and depress. Happy positive thinking guys.. Keep it up. We all are here for support and company. Love you all.
i don't think its spiritual and i don't think its physical. Its something else we're experiencing. Its not paranoia. This is actually happening...im talking about the pre recorded tv shows. This is beyond our sense of understanding. I don't know what else to add. I think everyone's said everything and still no cure. Forgot about the patm, what else are you experiencing? Can you put a description to it. This is what im finding difficulty in doing. I know im experiencing something hence the patm but i cant quite understand.
"After it goes away it leaves something on my chest that feels like a block of concrete and I am not able to think clearly or express myself, I just feel totally trapped or unable to communicate, just say futile things to people, it’s horrible. I just had one episode and I am being able to communicate so I guess it’s getting better"
this is one description from one sufferer.
slow down and think about the things you're experiencing.
I feel like im in more places than one. I should be in my body. Can anyone else add a decription to their experiences excluding patm.PATM is effecting us dramatically and i would be interested to know what else you are all experiencing.
I don't know... i think i'm referring to how certain types struggle to open up to others. There just seemed an age where I was always distanced in the relationships I had, even with friends. I just loved my own space and didn't open up very well.
This is a common trait of empaths - I was just wondering if anyone else feels that they acted distant/ didn't open up to others as well..
This patm is a real problem I tried to think positive but that does not Work, but it does help you to remain calm, but it is not a cure.we have to remember that sniffing,coughing, and sneezing is normal so thats why we see them in pre recorded TV.I can tell you that it happens during live TV and over the phone aswell as Web cams.I personally have tried everything and nothing has Worked for me.
I isolated myself as a child so yeah I distanced myself all the time from others. opening up to others - I didn't feel I got a chance to do this (my patm started 10) but I had OCD prior to that in which MY OCD inevitably distanced me.
tell me what you think eva
Myself too, my patm occured in the period when i started to acting more distant, even now im not really open to others.this , disease' seems to affect only certain types of personality...
Tamanna- your started at 10yo? hmm..this is unusual, most of us get this in our teens or twentis. I google it ,,ocd" and i realise I may have Ocd personality disorder...good for you, your ocd was just a disorder and you dont have this personality type.
I read more and dont think i have ocd personality disorder, this is crazy how we think we have a disorder/disease from reading symptoms on internet... how many ppl here believe they have candida without going to doctor...
maybe. i do like my space but it's not like i am struggling to open up.
If i don't open up, it's because i don't want to. I am not someone who want's attention i am rather modest (as a teacher once said to me at about self reflection psychology)
It takes time for i open myself up depending on the situation, atmosphere and people.
However on another topic i do think need to open up more in public and not care much about society, which i don't but can still feel the pressure.
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