"Protected" Condom Sex with Professional Sex Worker

[blurt]

Dear Doc,

A couple of days ago I visited a professional sex worker. I've noticed that she had big marks of rape os somekind of abuse. She put me a condom, cleaned my body with wet wipes and started doing me oral sex. After a few minutes she inserted my penis into her vagina and very gently started to move up and down...it took me a minute before I pushed her away telling her that I want oral sex only. She continued with oral sex... After the intecourse I asked for a wet whipe and pulled down the condom, not touching it. Than I went to the bathroom and washed my penis with soap - I used a lot of soap and water, but didn't take a shawer. I didn't touch her vagina nor mouth, but massaged her breasts. I've been reading articles and formums for STDs since than and got VERY CONFUSED. I guess some of her vaginal fluids got in touch with my body or some saliva got in touch with my body.

Please tell me what are the chances I got STDs from the described stupid mistake I made?

I'm SCARED TO DEATH about my family as I have a life and we've been trying to have a baby.

[auntiejessi]

Well, I don't know what kind of marks she had, but I'm assuming they were scars.  If they were fully healed, you have nothing to worry about from those.

You had protected sex, for a short time, so that's not really a concern.

You could get syphilis or gonorrhea from the unprotected oral sex.  You could also get herpes type 1 from that, but if you've ever had a cold sore, you don't need to worry about it.  You can test for gonorrhea about a week after the encounter, and syphilis can take up to 6 weeks to show on a test.  

If you are worried about infecting your wife, why would you have sex with another woman?  That is contradicting your concern for your wife.

AJ

[blurt]

Thank you for your answer.

Last 2 questions?
I've had protected oral and just less than a minute vaginal sex (tender movements without any hard staff).

1. Can I get any STDs from her fluids touching parts of my body, but not my penis and mouth?

2. Can Herpes or HPV or some other STD infect me through my skin?

I do need your answers to go on wih my life.

[blurt]

just to make it more clear. The vaginal sex was protected, too.

[blurt]

Hi Auntiejessi,

In the next day after the intercourse i've noticed a bump (about 5mm diameter) with dark spot in the centre and red surrounding area. I sqeezed it to let the blood go out, but in the next day it formed in the same way. Can it be STD??  

[london08]

That doesn't sound like any STD I've encountered, you had protected sex so your risk is negligible. The risk of catching gonorrhoea from oral sex is miniscule. However, if you're trying to have a baby then get tested just in case as congenital gonorrhoea can be nasty for the baby. Basically though your chnaces are tiny, there is an outside risk of herpes and HPV from skin to skin contact. If you are worried then get tested because if you give your wife HPV she will not be impressed as it leads to cervical cancer. And we are here in these forums to help and advise, not judge (auntjessie). This man made a mistake like we all do sometimes, he is doing the right thing by sorting it out, lets leave it at that. Good luck.

[auntiejessi]

I didn't judge him, thank you.   I was pointing out that his actions are contradictory to his concerns, and that if he wants to stop being concerned about these things, to stop having sex with other women.  Its about easing his concerns.  If you don't want your partner getting something, why would you have sex with other people?  

Skin to skin contact means genital contact.  You would not get these on other parts of your body.

There is also no test for HPV for men, so he can't test for that.

Do not squeeze the sore again, and just get it checked.  It doesn't sound like an std to me, either, but you do want the doc to check it out.  The fact that you wore a condom does reduce your chance of HPV, herpes and syphilis, but doesn't eliminate it.

AJ

[london08]

Er maybe because you don't think about it like that at the time of the deed and clearly with the benefit of hindsight he can see what he did was wrong and I'm sure wouldn't do it again. Oh if only we all had you all seeing oraclesque gandhi powers. Not quite sure how that is "easing his concerns"

I actually meant to say get her tested so sorry for being unclear Blurt and I don't think you were worried about getting herpes on your arm were you because otherwise I would have clarified skin to skin contact aswell!

[auntiejessi]

I'm sorry if this is a sensitive topic for you, London.  However, as humans, we are responsible for, and have control over, our actions and our thoughts.

I wasn't judging anything based on a morality.  I was simply saying that if this concerns him so much, and he is so fearful about his family, that his actions contradict that.  I have said that to countless others here who have done the same thing he has (and apparently you have), and they have thanked me for pointing it out.

And since we all seem to have missed the major point here - Blurt's risks are quite low - protected oral and intercourse.

Aj

[blurt]

Thank you for easing me to get out of this terrible situation. I haven't had contact with my wife for four days and even with my baby. This is horrible. Now, I'm sure I won't do such stupid and selfish things again.

Back to the subject. There is still something which isn't clear for me. Can I get STD from her saliva's or vaginal fluids touching the area around my penis? I wore a condom and I do think that it remained intact - at least I haven't seen any damage. I'm not sure if any of her vaginal fluids could touch my body for such a short intercourse. In addition, she did me an oral sex after I pushed her out. I'm also concerned if she may have had some herpes, syphilis or other STD formations to her body touching my naked body arround my penis. Is it possible to get infected in this way?

At last. Which deseases should I check for and when?

Thank you again for answering to my questions.

[blurt]

One more thing: Both Oral and Vaginal Sex were "protected" with the same condom.

My biggest concern is if some fluids or touch with STD formations to my body may have leaded to infection. What if she touched my anys with her fingers, for example. I don't recall she touched my anus, but I was so frightened so I may have missed something. In Fact I got errection for a very short time. About 10-20 seconds after she inserted my penis into her vaigna I lost errection and pushed her back. Than I got some miserable errection during the oral sex and finished very quickly, as I wanted to run away as soon as possible.

I have a message to all people reading this forum. NEVER GO TO PROSTITUTES - NEVER!!!

[london08]

auntjessie, pretty low aren't you. How dare you start making libellous accusations as to my private life just because I think your comments lacked medical focus and weren't necessary or helpful. Perhaps you should limit yourself to medical advice instead of making caustic insinuations about other members such as myself. Unlike you I wasn't banging on about what he should or shouldn't have done and so didn't miss the point at all, I said his risks were low from the outset. Good day and good riddance.

Blurt, one of my dental friends had herpetic whitlow on his fingers from the high exposure they tend to get to HSV1 in that profession. If it isn't there by now then chances are you're in the clear mate, 2-20 days is the normal incubation period, symptoms can include a tingling in the infected finger followed by localised swelling caused by oedema. Good luck.

[london08]

Just re-read your post, the only thing she could realistically have transferred to your anus with her fingers is gonorrhoea but she would have had to have her own vaginal secretions all over her fingers and probably actually inserted then into you anus for this to be a viable mode of transmission. Pain on passing stools and an abnormal anal discharge are the symptoms of gonorrhoea in this case. If you are worried, go to a clinic and sort it out. really, seriously, do that, it will put your mind at rest

[london08]

You can check for syphillis at 6 weeks, gonorrhoea and chlamydia at 2 weeks (gon would likely be positive within a day or two of the encounter, chlamydia wld normally take a week). HIV you don't need to worry about at all but if you wanted a test 4 weeks would be sufficient in 90 per cent of cases. HSV1 and 2 are difficult to test for but if you have any sores or lesions go to a std clinic straight away and they can swab the area and make a diagnosis.

[blurt]

Hi London08,

I just got back from the clinic where the doctor told me that I have nothing to worry about. The doc said that all these STDs aren't that easy to catch, so probably I cought mental deseas rather than STDs.

Even though this may sound funny, I still have some concerns. I'll make tests for syphillis and all the rest, probably in a month or so. The main issue is that we are practising unprotected sex at home. It will be very odd if suddenly I change my habits and start using condoms at home. What should I do?

The red bump the doc said is just a normal infection, not related to Herpes.

Thank you again for your support and answers. I wish you all success after you graduate from the medical university.

[congm]

Hi there,
trust the doc, your exposure was very low risk
Don't go after the internet and look for any infection and try to go on
I had a setuation simller to you and thaks god all tests came back negative but I'm not able to go on and I'm taking mental conceiling now to help
So try to go on a.s.a.p ...

[auntiejessi]

I agree that your chances are VERY low, but I also think that you aren't going to be able to relax until you get some negative results.  

Its a shame that your doctor didn't just test you for gonorrhea and chlamydia when you were there.  I think that would have helped ease your mind.

Your baby is quite safe.  No std is passed by casual contact, even hugging or kissing.

Hang in there,
AJ

[blurt]

Hi Auntiejessi and London08,

It has been a week since my exposure. Can I test for gonorea and chlamydia now? or I should wait longer?

I don't have any symptoms and I have "protected" sex with my wife..I'm trying to be careful, but who knows??!!

The only symptoms I imagine perhaps is a very slight itching of my anus. Do I have to have intense/strong itching or slight itching could be symptoms?? My work is on a computer spending 8hours sitting on a chair...could be because of this or could be something else??

[blurt]

Hi My Friends,

I just got back from the doc and she refused to test me for gonorea and chlamydia. She told me that I must have rectal discharge, not just itching. I'll try to test in another clinic on Monday. Can I just test in a clinic lab without visiting another doctor? Do I have to take sample myself and just give it to the lab?

[blurt]

Hi London08 and Auntiejessi,

As I told you I've had "protected sex" with my wife. I was very careful with the condom not to pass any fluids...Since I don't have any bumps or other unusual things, I hope the sex with condom was safe for her.

I couldn't wait until Monday and decided to take medicines as precousion. I took 1x ciprofloxacin 500mg and 1/2hour later 1 suspense of 2g Zmax (Azithromycin). I hope now that if I had any STDs, they should be DEAD.

Please tell me how much time is needed to Kill these bacterias after taking the above mdeicines.

Please also advise if I may have passed bacterias to my wife having gentle sex with a condom, which I putted before I even touched her naked body. I do hope I didn't pass her any STD desease.

PLEASE EASE MY MIND WITH YOUR REPLIES

[auntiejessi]

Those meds should cure gonorrhea and chlamydia.  

I doubt you had either to start with, but if you did, that will take care of it.  Also, protected sex with your wife is fine, and the meds take 7 days to fully work.

AJ

[london08]

yep i agree, just don't have unprotected sex with her for 7 days and if possible don't have sex at all while you are taking the medication in case you have a condom break for whatever reason, not really worth the risk is it?

[auntiejessi]

Oh good clarification.  Thanks.

You really shouldn't have sex while being treated for an std.  I meant that your question about gentle protected sex so far with your wife means she probably hasn't been infected.

It is best to wait 7 days to have sex.

AJ

[blurt]

Hi My Friends,

I took only one dose of those medications. Do you think that's enough for curring gonorea, chancroid or chlamydia, I I had ether? Do I need to take more doses?

I guess now I have to worry about syphillis, HPV and Herpes. It has been over a week, so I guess Herpes is out of question. Regarding HPV, both me and my wife have it from the past. Can we reinfect with this virues? For syphillis, perhaps I should monitor for any skin disorders.

Realistically, please let me know what deseases are likely to catch from protected oral and vaginal sex (for less than a minute). If I don't have simpthoms for 2 weeks, can I feel safe for me and my wife?

[blurt]

Hi My Friends,

Yesterday, I've noticed a bump /some unusual formation on my head close to my hair/. I don't know how to name it in English. Can it be Syphillis chancre?? Does this chancre always apper at the site of entry of syphilis or it can be evertywhare, including at my face? Could it be another STS, too?