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Hashimoto's patients, are you TH1 or TH2 dominant?
Hashi patients, do you know if you are TH1 or TH2 dominant? I'm TH2 dominant. Coffee and green tea make my neck swell. I've given up caffeine and I take my Echinacea and Golden Seal each day and the flareups are gone. (Well, except when I eat chocolate). Which are you? Do you know if what you're eating could be causing auto-immune flareups?
Below is a part of the TH1/TH2 transcript taken from a video by Dr. Geronimo. Here's Dr. Geronimo's website:
http://www.powaychiro.com
I don't have enough room to post the entire transcript.To read the full transcript see my journal entry below:
http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/182243/Hashi-patients--Are-you-TH1-or-TH2-dominant
:) Tamra
"An autoimmune condition occurs when one branch of the immune system over dominates another branch. This is called an either a Th1 or Th2 dominance. A dominant TH1 response means that the natural killer cells and cytotoxic t cells are responsible for attacking the body, while a TH2 dominance indicates that your bcells and antibodies are mounting the attack. A blood test is needed to find out which branch is dominant. Thus to treat an autoimmune disease, it is critical to find the dominant branch and to balance the seesaw by stimulating the other branch. For example, if a patient’s autoimmune disease was TH1 dominant, treating it would require that we strengthen the Th2 side to balance out the immune system. If the patient were Th2 dominant, we would stimulate the Th1 side to regain balance. It’s a pretty simple solution, but so many people suffer needlessly because the immune system has been ignored, until now.
This is where clinical nutrition and natural medicine comes into play. It is well documented in clinical research that Th1 stimulants are Echinacea, maitake mushrooms and golden seal to name a few. Th2 stimulators are caffeine, green tea, and grape seed extract. So in the example I gave in the previous slide, if a patient with an under functioning thyroid is TH1 dominant, then I would prescribe supplements containing caffeine, green tea, and grape seed extract to stimulate the TH2 side to regain balance. If they were TH2 dominant, then Echinacea, mushrooms, and golden seal would balance out their immune system. Since most people with autoimmune conditions have no idea which branch of their immune system is dominant, they can actually make their condition worse by taking over the counter immune boosters. Lets say for example you were Th1 dominant and you catch a cold. A friend tells you that Echinacea helped them so you take it yourself. Unknowingly you would be flaring up your already dominant Th1 response and cause even more destruction to your thyroid gland."
Below is a part of the TH1/TH2 transcript taken from a video by Dr. Geronimo. Here's Dr. Geronimo's website:
http://www.powaychiro.com
I don't have enough room to post the entire transcript.To read the full transcript see my journal entry below:
http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/182243/Hashi-patients--Are-you-TH1-or-TH2-dominant
:) Tamra
"An autoimmune condition occurs when one branch of the immune system over dominates another branch. This is called an either a Th1 or Th2 dominance. A dominant TH1 response means that the natural killer cells and cytotoxic t cells are responsible for attacking the body, while a TH2 dominance indicates that your bcells and antibodies are mounting the attack. A blood test is needed to find out which branch is dominant. Thus to treat an autoimmune disease, it is critical to find the dominant branch and to balance the seesaw by stimulating the other branch. For example, if a patient’s autoimmune disease was TH1 dominant, treating it would require that we strengthen the Th2 side to balance out the immune system. If the patient were Th2 dominant, we would stimulate the Th1 side to regain balance. It’s a pretty simple solution, but so many people suffer needlessly because the immune system has been ignored, until now.
This is where clinical nutrition and natural medicine comes into play. It is well documented in clinical research that Th1 stimulants are Echinacea, maitake mushrooms and golden seal to name a few. Th2 stimulators are caffeine, green tea, and grape seed extract. So in the example I gave in the previous slide, if a patient with an under functioning thyroid is TH1 dominant, then I would prescribe supplements containing caffeine, green tea, and grape seed extract to stimulate the TH2 side to regain balance. If they were TH2 dominant, then Echinacea, mushrooms, and golden seal would balance out their immune system. Since most people with autoimmune conditions have no idea which branch of their immune system is dominant, they can actually make their condition worse by taking over the counter immune boosters. Lets say for example you were Th1 dominant and you catch a cold. A friend tells you that Echinacea helped them so you take it yourself. Unknowingly you would be flaring up your already dominant Th1 response and cause even more destruction to your thyroid gland."
What kind of doctor do you see that is giving you all this great treatment? I went to the dr today to try and request a few of the tests from the book and he looked at me funny and gave me a referral to a rheumatologist. I'm getting frustrated with the health care system. After reading some of this book I am determined to kick Hashimoto's in to remission and I will do what it takes!!
As a side note...I had a bad case of thrush back in 2007 after i had my jaw surgery and a combo of all the antibiotics I was given plus my jaw being banded shut and couldn't clean properly..oh it was awful!!
As a side note...I had a bad case of thrush back in 2007 after i had my jaw surgery and a combo of all the antibiotics I was given plus my jaw being banded shut and couldn't clean properly..oh it was awful!!
I need to get back into my yoga and Tai Chi. How do you prepare your ginger water?
Thanks,
:) Tamra
Thanks,
:) Tamra
Read www.thyroidbook.com about the stomach cleanse. Mouth thrush is just awful. Knock on wood, I haven't had it since going gluten free and drinking coconut oil. A lot of thyroid patients get it as they have an underlying yeast condition. Bloated stomach, etc...
:) Tamra
:) Tamra
Hello to all
We often awaken with a foul taste in our mouths and it is believed that we also hold a lot of toxin in our mouths first thing in the morning. I do something that I leanrt of during my frequent travels to India. Oil pulling - as I wake up and before doing all my other little rituals of drinking cider water or ginger water. Try not to swollow your saliva - head straight for the bathroom Into your mouth put about a tablespoon of cold pressed sunflower oil, swich it around for about 5 - 10 minutes whilst you do something else. after the 5/10 minutes spit the oil out into your toilet. Rince and brush you teeth. Herwith a lot of the poison and mouth toxins are not taken back into your system. I then do my netipot ritual also from India. Have my ginger water and another glass of water, eat my small amount of protein and then do some Qigong and the fish pose and the lion pose both yoga stances. The lion pose is a very good way to push air from the depth of your stomach up your throat. I have found it to be very benefical for me Liya. I now am working on dealing with my gut flora and at the moment that 10 accidophilis tablets twice a day.
We often awaken with a foul taste in our mouths and it is believed that we also hold a lot of toxin in our mouths first thing in the morning. I do something that I leanrt of during my frequent travels to India. Oil pulling - as I wake up and before doing all my other little rituals of drinking cider water or ginger water. Try not to swollow your saliva - head straight for the bathroom Into your mouth put about a tablespoon of cold pressed sunflower oil, swich it around for about 5 - 10 minutes whilst you do something else. after the 5/10 minutes spit the oil out into your toilet. Rince and brush you teeth. Herwith a lot of the poison and mouth toxins are not taken back into your system. I then do my netipot ritual also from India. Have my ginger water and another glass of water, eat my small amount of protein and then do some Qigong and the fish pose and the lion pose both yoga stances. The lion pose is a very good way to push air from the depth of your stomach up your throat. I have found it to be very benefical for me Liya. I now am working on dealing with my gut flora and at the moment that 10 accidophilis tablets twice a day.
Hello to all
We often awaken with a foul taste in our mouths and it is believed that we also hold a lot of toxin in our mouths first thing in the morning. I do something that I leanrt of during my frequent travels to India. Oil pulling - as I wake up and before doing all my other little rituals of drinking cider water or ginger water. Try not to swollow your saliva - head straight for the bathroom Into your mouth put about a tablespoon of cold pressed sunflower oil, swich it around for about 5 - 10 minutes whilst you do something else. after the 5/10 minutes spit the oil out into your toilet. Rince and brush you teeth. Herwith a lot of the poison and mouth toxins are not taken back into your system. I then do my netipot ritual also from India. Have my ginger water and another glass of water, eat my small amount of protein and then do some Qigong and the fish pose and the lion pose both yoga stances. The lion pose is a very good way to push air from the depth of your stomach up your throat. I have found it to be very benefical for me Liya. I now am working on dealing with my gut flora and at the moment that 10 accidophilis tablets twice a day.
We often awaken with a foul taste in our mouths and it is believed that we also hold a lot of toxin in our mouths first thing in the morning. I do something that I leanrt of during my frequent travels to India. Oil pulling - as I wake up and before doing all my other little rituals of drinking cider water or ginger water. Try not to swollow your saliva - head straight for the bathroom Into your mouth put about a tablespoon of cold pressed sunflower oil, swich it around for about 5 - 10 minutes whilst you do something else. after the 5/10 minutes spit the oil out into your toilet. Rince and brush you teeth. Herwith a lot of the poison and mouth toxins are not taken back into your system. I then do my netipot ritual also from India. Have my ginger water and another glass of water, eat my small amount of protein and then do some Qigong and the fish pose and the lion pose both yoga stances. The lion pose is a very good way to push air from the depth of your stomach up your throat. I have found it to be very benefical for me Liya. I now am working on dealing with my gut flora and at the moment that 10 accidophilis tablets twice a day.
Hi Tamra,
Thank you, for the feed back, my Dr. office just called in a 10 day Rx. for Diflucan...but when I read it's side affects, and what not to take it with...I'm going to wait, I did go to the vitamin shopped and they sold me a bottle of oral Flora, you let it disolve in your mouth once daily...It seems to be doing some good, I know when you use natural, it takes longer...I was told yesterday that the radio active iodine is what did it, that it killed off all of the good bacteria...thus the thrush...hum, poetry...I'll have to check into the coconut oil. Thank you, for that suggestion. It must be wonderful to be free of the thrush. I'm looking forward to it...I've been dealing with this since Dec. of course the hosp. and Dr. all said, no the radioactive iodine would not do that....Have a great day...I'm not familiar with a stomach cleanse, is that the same as a colon cleanse?
Sharon
Thank you, for the feed back, my Dr. office just called in a 10 day Rx. for Diflucan...but when I read it's side affects, and what not to take it with...I'm going to wait, I did go to the vitamin shopped and they sold me a bottle of oral Flora, you let it disolve in your mouth once daily...It seems to be doing some good, I know when you use natural, it takes longer...I was told yesterday that the radio active iodine is what did it, that it killed off all of the good bacteria...thus the thrush...hum, poetry...I'll have to check into the coconut oil. Thank you, for that suggestion. It must be wonderful to be free of the thrush. I'm looking forward to it...I've been dealing with this since Dec. of course the hosp. and Dr. all said, no the radioactive iodine would not do that....Have a great day...I'm not familiar with a stomach cleanse, is that the same as a colon cleanse?
Sharon
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