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Oh God! I have never posted here so much in my life... I am just at my wits end.... I cant take this c.r.a.p anymore. I am so depressed today! Crying a lot, taking my moods out on my boyfriend and just over all wish I was dead at times (dont worry not sucidial) Just keep saying to God to put me out of my misery...
I took my bad ood out on my b/f today and he totally did not deserve it! I feel so bad about that now aswel! I am so frecking annoyed that Im going through and that its so unfair. Jez like theres murderers and abusers out there living the life of luxary and then theres people who try to lead good law abiding lives like us and WE suffer...... Im sick of it! I feel like screaming!
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I took my bad ood out on my b/f today and he totally did not deserve it! I feel so bad about that now aswel! I am so frecking annoyed that Im going through and that its so unfair. Jez like theres murderers and abusers out there living the life of luxary and then theres people who try to lead good law abiding lives like us and WE suffer...... Im sick of it! I feel like screaming!
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I would tell the doctor that you are under medicated, because:
1. you are still suffering from all your hypo symptoms.
2. you are being medicated just to bring your TSH into the reference range, and that is obviously not enough to relieve your symptoms, especially when you have Hashi's. In addition, the old reference range is questionable, because the Amer. Assn. of Clinical Endocrinologists has determined that the data that was used to establish the old range included many people who were suspect as hypothyroid. When these were taken out of the data base the new range was found to be .3 - 3.0. Here is a link you can copy and show the doc.
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/testsforthyroid/a/labs2003.htm
3. that you understand that when patients have Hashi's, their symptoms are relieved best by medicating enough to suppress TSH to the low end of the range, by raising their free T3 and free T4 levels to the upper part of their range.
4. that you have read that hypothyoidism symptoms correlate best with the most active thyroid hormone, which is free T3. Symptoms do not correlate well at all with the pituitary hormone,TSH, so why use that as the diagnostic. It is far better to base treatment on the active thyroid hormones, free T3 and free T4.
After a lively discussion about all this, no doubt, I would then ask that your meds be gradually increased, and that your free T3 and free T4 and TSH be tested every 6 weeks until your symptoms are relieved. I don't think I would bring up the question of T3 meds at this point because you really don't even know if that is part of the problem or not, since you don't have free T3 testing yet. A T4 med, in the right amount, might be just fine for you. You can handle the T3 question in the future.
1. you are still suffering from all your hypo symptoms.
2. you are being medicated just to bring your TSH into the reference range, and that is obviously not enough to relieve your symptoms, especially when you have Hashi's. In addition, the old reference range is questionable, because the Amer. Assn. of Clinical Endocrinologists has determined that the data that was used to establish the old range included many people who were suspect as hypothyroid. When these were taken out of the data base the new range was found to be .3 - 3.0. Here is a link you can copy and show the doc.
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/testsforthyroid/a/labs2003.htm
3. that you understand that when patients have Hashi's, their symptoms are relieved best by medicating enough to suppress TSH to the low end of the range, by raising their free T3 and free T4 levels to the upper part of their range.
4. that you have read that hypothyoidism symptoms correlate best with the most active thyroid hormone, which is free T3. Symptoms do not correlate well at all with the pituitary hormone,TSH, so why use that as the diagnostic. It is far better to base treatment on the active thyroid hormones, free T3 and free T4.
After a lively discussion about all this, no doubt, I would then ask that your meds be gradually increased, and that your free T3 and free T4 and TSH be tested every 6 weeks until your symptoms are relieved. I don't think I would bring up the question of T3 meds at this point because you really don't even know if that is part of the problem or not, since you don't have free T3 testing yet. A T4 med, in the right amount, might be just fine for you. You can handle the T3 question in the future.
I am so confused at all this.... There is so much involved. ya I saw that post, its true my TSH is 4.33 and they do go by the old ranges which is annoying. but given the fact they don't use the new ranges I dont know how I will convince him!
Do you think I could benifit from a T3 med too???
I have an app. Monday and I want to get it all out then!
Im thinking of using this approach:
Il Ask him for an increase in my meds and if he says no, then Il explain that the new ranges are .3-3.0 and that its not going to hurt to increase my meds. if I go hyper I can cut down again.. 25mcg will do the job I think!
I think I will suggest an ultrasound too as my throat is really sore an it cant hurt to see... But if I get an increase I will leave happy!
Do you think I could benifit from a T3 med too???
I have an app. Monday and I want to get it all out then!
Im thinking of using this approach:
Il Ask him for an increase in my meds and if he says no, then Il explain that the new ranges are .3-3.0 and that its not going to hurt to increase my meds. if I go hyper I can cut down again.. 25mcg will do the job I think!
I think I will suggest an ultrasound too as my throat is really sore an it cant hurt to see... But if I get an increase I will leave happy!
I've been telling you that you are undermedicated. Please read this previous post.
I really think that you are wasting whatever energy you have by chasing the idea that surgery for your thyroid will solve your problem. Likewise for getting an ultrasound.
The problem is that you have Hashi's. Your TSH is still too high, indicating that you are not getting enough meds to get your free T3 and free t4 to the upper part of their range and suppress the TSH to the low end of its range and relieve your symptoms. Clearly you are running into the UK Health Service stone wall on thyroid issues. From what I read they are adamant that patients only need medication to bring their TSH into the reference range (the old range, by the way). This frequently results in patients with lingering hypo symptoms. Getting more blood testing done in a few months isn't going to help either.
Within your health system do you have the freedom to go to any other doctor? If so, can you possibly find one that is not so rigid about TSH being the determining factor for medication? That's what you really need, a doctor that will treat you based on your symptoms, by testing and adjusting your free T3 and free T4 as required to relieve those symptoms, without being shackled by TSH.
I really think that you are wasting whatever energy you have by chasing the idea that surgery for your thyroid will solve your problem. Likewise for getting an ultrasound.
The problem is that you have Hashi's. Your TSH is still too high, indicating that you are not getting enough meds to get your free T3 and free t4 to the upper part of their range and suppress the TSH to the low end of its range and relieve your symptoms. Clearly you are running into the UK Health Service stone wall on thyroid issues. From what I read they are adamant that patients only need medication to bring their TSH into the reference range (the old range, by the way). This frequently results in patients with lingering hypo symptoms. Getting more blood testing done in a few months isn't going to help either.
Within your health system do you have the freedom to go to any other doctor? If so, can you possibly find one that is not so rigid about TSH being the determining factor for medication? That's what you really need, a doctor that will treat you based on your symptoms, by testing and adjusting your free T3 and free T4 as required to relieve those symptoms, without being shackled by TSH.
Nope, GoldShield is written on the box!Its Levothyroxine Sodium! I don't understand the whole medication side of things. Maybe Im just under medicated and meed an increase! Oh Jez I don't know!
Who makes your ELTROXIN?
Here is some interesting reading for you.....
June 7 -- Folks in New Zealand are up in arms, because a reformulation of the drug Eltroxin (a brand name of levothyroxine manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline) appears to be causing problems in thyroid patients. Patients taking Eltroxin (which is government funded in New Zealand) are reporting all sorts of side effects and symptoms since the drug was recently reformulated.
According to a company spokesperson, the reformulation was necessary due to changes in the manufacturing operation, moving the production of the Eltroxin from Canada to Germany. While GlaxoSmithKline is saying that levothyroxine in Eltroxin is the same, there are new filler and binders in the reformulated product.
Goldshield brand levothyroxine has sold out in New Zealand, and frustrated thyroid patients will have to wait for more shipments to arrive, as well as possible shipments of Abbott Laboratories' brand Synthroid. The demand for thyroid drugs is due to nationwide reports from patients of significant side effects due to the reformulation of government-approved thyroid medication, Eltroxin (made by GlaxoSmithKline).
Eltroxin has had a lot of controversy here in Australia and New Zealand.......although I dont know about the Uk or anywhere else.
Check the manufacturer on the box and if GlaxoSmithKline, then ask for another brand.
Here is some interesting reading for you.....
June 7 -- Folks in New Zealand are up in arms, because a reformulation of the drug Eltroxin (a brand name of levothyroxine manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline) appears to be causing problems in thyroid patients. Patients taking Eltroxin (which is government funded in New Zealand) are reporting all sorts of side effects and symptoms since the drug was recently reformulated.
According to a company spokesperson, the reformulation was necessary due to changes in the manufacturing operation, moving the production of the Eltroxin from Canada to Germany. While GlaxoSmithKline is saying that levothyroxine in Eltroxin is the same, there are new filler and binders in the reformulated product.
Goldshield brand levothyroxine has sold out in New Zealand, and frustrated thyroid patients will have to wait for more shipments to arrive, as well as possible shipments of Abbott Laboratories' brand Synthroid. The demand for thyroid drugs is due to nationwide reports from patients of significant side effects due to the reformulation of government-approved thyroid medication, Eltroxin (made by GlaxoSmithKline).
Eltroxin has had a lot of controversy here in Australia and New Zealand.......although I dont know about the Uk or anywhere else.
Check the manufacturer on the box and if GlaxoSmithKline, then ask for another brand.
I have made an app. today for Monday and will explain all to him.. I will ask for an ultrasound and ask for the option to remove it or up my eltroxin!
Its getting to the point now where I feel I will literally shout at him... Im to polite for my own good.... I promise I will stand up for myself and if that doesn't work Il set all ye on him lol...
In agony today with throat so it has to stop!
Its getting to the point now where I feel I will literally shout at him... Im to polite for my own good.... I promise I will stand up for myself and if that doesn't work Il set all ye on him lol...
In agony today with throat so it has to stop!
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