i just started taking both about a month ago it works great all the force factor and yes u do take them together even on days u r not working out
Hi Liz,
My name is Scout and I'm a Force Factor Representative.
You had asked about your 17 year old taking the Force Factor...
You must be 18 or older to order Force Factor. Force Factor never markets or encourages individuals under the age of 18 to use our products. If you have any questions about the affects of a Nitric Oxide please consult your physician.
-Scout
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this program. Did a quick search and found lots of info about it. I'd suggest that you do plenty of research on the ingredients, as I noticed the Ramp Up contains several herbs......some of them could have side effects. I couldn't find an ingredient list for the Force Factor, but I'd research it as well.