Ok Guys, it's Day 5 off the Patch and feelin good!!!

[thmpn8r]

So, I promised not to post a thread any earlier than every 5 days cuz it's unfair to flood the forum!!!!!

Here's my update!!!!  Da1-3 was pure he11!!!!  I have never dealt with such lack of energy and depression and sick to my stomach and chills and etc., etc......  I wouldn't wish that upon my worse enemy!!!!  

Day 4 I felt a little better and today even a little better....  I am still concerned about the half life of the Fent. patch and the fact that it took 9 to 10 days last time I came off the patch...  But, I was still on Norc's. and this time I quit the Norc's. a week prior to D-day so i'm hoping the worst is over as far as the w/d's.....

I feel less anxious then I did but have been following the Thomas Recipe (not to the "T") with the exception that I didn't just dope up with the Benzo's. the whole time I was w/ding....  I only used them at night to get to sleep....  I have been to see my Doc. and he gave me some Lunesta and wants me to try it in the next couple of days....  Just figure I will wait for another day or two....

I am still getting RLS but it isn't in my legs, it's in my ARMS!!!!!!  Can anyone offer insite as to how to combat that one....  My arms will uncontrollably retract out to a straight position and then back to the fetal position.....  I have tried interlocking my fingers, crossing my arms, wrapping them around a pillow.....  Just don't know how to try to contend with it....  I have put an icy/hot type product on them and it has helped a little but I really have to message it in and with only having one hand to do that it just isn't working.....  When a friend or family member uses both hands it really seems to help....  Any SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!!!!!

I feel like I am doing pretty good for Day 5!!!!!  I have been walking multiple times a day since Day 3 and will up the walks as my energy/strength increases!!!!  I plan to hit the pool tomorrow morning and get some laps in.....  I will beat the malaise with replacing those lost endorphins with natural ones!!!!!  I will beat the cr@p out of malaise as I will not be controlled by a pill or patch!!!!!

I have to say that none of this could have happened without all the support and knowledge I have gained from all of you on this site.....YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!!  YOU ARE ALL SAINTS AND HAVE REALLY APPRECIATED ALL YOUR COMMENTS WHETHER YOUR ABOUT TO TAKE ON THE MONSTER OR HAVE BEATEN IT DOWN FOR 100'S OR EVEN 1,000'S OF DAYS!!!!!!

Your all the reason why I have 5 days of the MONSTER OFF MY BACK and for that I am truly grateful.....

Thank you so much and keep cheering me on as I will you!!!!!

[troubleinohio]

have you tried valarian root to try and sleep? it might help the RLS (or RAS in your case) too. Just make sure you dont mix and match different vitamin/mineral/herbs together, they can interact with one another (and with RX meds too) even though they are "natural"!  so make sure you do your research and possibly contact a pharmacist. I do recall reading that valarian shouldnt be used by people who have heart trouble but cant remember the reason why. Anyhow, I used to use it many years ago before i graduated to xanax, and it did help me sleep sometimes pretty good. like i said always check interactions when youre trying these 'natural products" though! good luck to you...you sound really good considering the circumstances!

[thmpn8r]

It's the start of Day8!!!!  Been doing ok.....  Just really hate the lack of ENERGY!!!!!  I've been eating like a horse!!!!  Mentally I'm just trying to put something in my body to give me some energy.....  I know it's the malaise and it's just going to take time....  One good thing is that I went and picked up the Hyland's Restful Legs Product and it works for me!!!!  Have had no RLS for the last 2 evenings but still had to use a Lunesta to get to sleep the last 2 days....  Going to try some Melatonine and see it that will get me to sleep....  Me no likey using prescription drugs no more!!!!!  Let's hope it will work!!!!  Hey, at least I haven't used any benzos for 2 days....

Been trying to walk and swim to battle the lack of energy thing but still have no energy....  It helps just a little but not much!!!!

One great thing is I keep getting goose bumps from the simplest things....  My neuron's are all messed up!!!!  I hate what this **** did to me......  I will make it though....

Thanks again for all your support and Pm's everyone is sending me!!!!

[thmpn8r]

Yeah,
I forgot to mention that the doc. did give me the .5mg of the klonopin but he wants me using it during the day and then the Lunesta at night....  Tried it last night and ended up using the klonopin anyways.....  Oh well.....  I'm thinkin it's just to early to try and use a sedative like Lunesta to tame the beast anyways....  I am going to keep with the klonopin for the next few nights and give it another try just to see.....  It's all about trial and error as it really seems like some things work for some that don't for others....

Don't get me wrong guys....  I need all your suggestions as they are what is allowing me to work with the doc. to discover what is going to work....  When someone warns me about a reaction or cautions me I print it out and am taking it to the doc.....  I am logging everything I have been doing and how it made me feel or if it was successful or not....  

I did buy some of the Hyland's products today and am going to give them a try.....  The sleep aid and the RLS....  Gotta give it a try and see if it works.....  If it doesn't then I'll just take it back and get my $$$$ back....

PLEASE KEEP GIVING ME ALL YOUR IDEAS AND SUPPORT CUZ IT WILL EVENTUALLY GIVE ME THE COCKTAIL THAT WORKS AND IS THE SAFEST/LEAST ADDICTIVE AND SIDE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT!!!!!

Hey,  It's Day 6 and well on my way to Day 7!!!!!!  Woohoo!!!!!!  Couldn't have done it without all of you....  I am forever grateful!!!!!

Thanks so mucho!!!!!!

[freebird227]

GNC has melotion 1mg. sublingle. I take 2most of the time about 15 mins. b4 bedtime.Under the tongue and off to bed. You can take up to 3 but no more, if more is needed then go to the time released. It will almost always give you 4 hours of sleep.
Congrats !!!!!*****%%%%####  keep up the positive attitude

[MMarty]

I use a mg or a half a clonozepam/klonopin and have never had any addiction issues with the stuff. I am using it a little more now(1mg morning and 1 at night) because I am edgy coming off the tramadol. It just gets me through the inability to sleep. You seem to have a doctor willing to listen, ask about using it in the interim. Marty

[thmpn8r]

What do you guys suggest then....  Only want to make this a short term thing until I can get past the early stages of Malaise and can get back into the gym where I can hopefully burn the energy/anxiety off to hopefully get a normal nights rest!!!!!  This f***ing cr@p has really messed me up.....  NEVER AGAIN!!!!!  I WILL NEVER LET ANOTHER DOC. PUT ME ON PAIN MEDS.....  The end result is ENDLESS!!!!!!

[NautyOne]

I agree with the Lunesta for similar reasons.......Just try the old German route for sleep....what do they say?.....Guddentight??.......:-))~~~i have no idea.  one of those days..........

Say no the the Big Butterfly

nauty.........

[GA Guy]

I'd stay away from the Lunesta if at all possible..and if you do take it..limit it to as needed and just for a few days. It's a "Z" drug that acts and works just like a benzo. It is OK for "normies", but us addicts can make it into a problem quickly.