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Serious food for thought for my fellow addicts
Hey everybody,
Just a quick backround note on the post I'm about to write on this side of the forum. We have been goofing around on the social side of the forum (like we always do) and we've been on the subject of having an official singer/songwriter for the forum. I've been campaigning to have Neil Diamond be our official singer so whenever you sign on to the forum you will hear Neil Diamond music playing in a continuous loop (sounds good to me). There's been lots of support for Neil (feel free to vote on the Social Side-there is an ongoing poll keeping track of the votes) Anyway, long story short is that lots of bad jokes came out of this and we all have been having our laughs over the last few days. It was just suggested that if Neil didn't get voted in we might want to consider Janis Joplin. My first thought was "What?!? Not Neil?!?" and then my second thought was that she died from a drug overdose. Here is basically what I posted on the social side:
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I love Janis Joplin but she can't be our official singer/songwriter because she overdosed and died :-(
Having said that that means there is a lot of good music we can't use in our soundtrack because there was an actual drug overdose associated with them:
Alice in Chains, Blind Mellon, Sublime, Mother Love Bone, Graham Parsons, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, The Who, The Vandals, The Sex Pistols, The Germs, Skinny Puppy, Morphine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Def Leppard, Atari Teenage Riot, Nike Drake, Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker, The Pretenders, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, Hole, The Temptations, Rory Gallagher, The Squirrel Nut Zippers, Tommy Dorsey, The Righteous Brothers, Malfunkshun, Ratt, Crazy Horse, The Byrds, The Smashing Pumpkins, Ramones, Culture Club (okay..they sucked), AC-DC, Three Dog Night, Blues Traveler, Little Feat, Uriah Heep, Canned Heat, The Associates, Deep Purple, EMF, The Grateful Dead, Average White Band, Thin Lizzy, The Blues Brothers (tragedy).
Then we have our awesome musicians/bands who had people die BECAUSE they were abusing drugs/alcohol or they overdosed on it but it caused them to drown or whatever. So a drug overdose or habitual abuse killed them but the official cause of death is listed as stroke or heart attack or cirrhosis of the liver or GI bleed or head injury or whatever:
Styx, Billie Holiday, Nirvana, The Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, The Doors, Humble Pie, Mamas and the Papas, Derick and the Dominos, The Guess Who, Michael Jackson, to name just a few.
Sorry, not trying to be a downer....but these two lists are only a tiny, small portion of the musicians/bands that have had drug abuse ruin them.
Obviously these are only some of the bands that have been affected and I've only listed off the ones I could think of off the top of my head. I'm sure if I spent some more time on it I could make my list a whole lot longer. Plus, there are tons of other musicians/bands that don't fit into the 'good music' catergory in my opinion so I don't have them listed because I don't like their music (with the exception of Culture Club--I have NO idea why I put them on my list because I really think their music sux.) I didn't care for Michael Jackson's music much either, but he was a pioneer so I put him on the list. There are lots of individual jazz and blues musicians I could have put down, but most people wouldn't know who they were so I tried to keep it main stream and relevant to all.
Anyway, I know we all like to joke around and have fun- I do too. But every now and then I gotta go for a reality check. I LOVE music and it saddens me to see all the great talent we've lost because of someone's inability to overcome their addiction.
Any thoughts or ideas from anyone?
Any names of music we can't include in our soundtrack?
Hope I didn't bring everyone down. I'm the first one to goof around to lighten things up. It's just that I was reading through this post and realized that Janis Joplin couldn't be used and it made me sad and it made me start thinking....
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Anyway, the above is what I wrote. I just wanted to share it with people. All the bands that I know of that have been ruined by drugs kind of boggles the mind. We've lost so many great musicians to addiction. It made me realize the world has lost so many un-named people that had a lot to offer the world also but they lost the battle with their addiction.
I don't want anyone here to lose that battle.
Stay strong,
Greatgreebo
ps-feel free to go to the social side and weigh in on Neil Diamond. I triple dog dare you :-)
Just a quick backround note on the post I'm about to write on this side of the forum. We have been goofing around on the social side of the forum (like we always do) and we've been on the subject of having an official singer/songwriter for the forum. I've been campaigning to have Neil Diamond be our official singer so whenever you sign on to the forum you will hear Neil Diamond music playing in a continuous loop (sounds good to me). There's been lots of support for Neil (feel free to vote on the Social Side-there is an ongoing poll keeping track of the votes) Anyway, long story short is that lots of bad jokes came out of this and we all have been having our laughs over the last few days. It was just suggested that if Neil didn't get voted in we might want to consider Janis Joplin. My first thought was "What?!? Not Neil?!?" and then my second thought was that she died from a drug overdose. Here is basically what I posted on the social side:
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I love Janis Joplin but she can't be our official singer/songwriter because she overdosed and died :-(
Having said that that means there is a lot of good music we can't use in our soundtrack because there was an actual drug overdose associated with them:
Alice in Chains, Blind Mellon, Sublime, Mother Love Bone, Graham Parsons, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, The Who, The Vandals, The Sex Pistols, The Germs, Skinny Puppy, Morphine, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Def Leppard, Atari Teenage Riot, Nike Drake, Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker, The Pretenders, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, Hole, The Temptations, Rory Gallagher, The Squirrel Nut Zippers, Tommy Dorsey, The Righteous Brothers, Malfunkshun, Ratt, Crazy Horse, The Byrds, The Smashing Pumpkins, Ramones, Culture Club (okay..they sucked), AC-DC, Three Dog Night, Blues Traveler, Little Feat, Uriah Heep, Canned Heat, The Associates, Deep Purple, EMF, The Grateful Dead, Average White Band, Thin Lizzy, The Blues Brothers (tragedy).
Then we have our awesome musicians/bands who had people die BECAUSE they were abusing drugs/alcohol or they overdosed on it but it caused them to drown or whatever. So a drug overdose or habitual abuse killed them but the official cause of death is listed as stroke or heart attack or cirrhosis of the liver or GI bleed or head injury or whatever:
Styx, Billie Holiday, Nirvana, The Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, The Doors, Humble Pie, Mamas and the Papas, Derick and the Dominos, The Guess Who, Michael Jackson, to name just a few.
Sorry, not trying to be a downer....but these two lists are only a tiny, small portion of the musicians/bands that have had drug abuse ruin them.
Obviously these are only some of the bands that have been affected and I've only listed off the ones I could think of off the top of my head. I'm sure if I spent some more time on it I could make my list a whole lot longer. Plus, there are tons of other musicians/bands that don't fit into the 'good music' catergory in my opinion so I don't have them listed because I don't like their music (with the exception of Culture Club--I have NO idea why I put them on my list because I really think their music sux.) I didn't care for Michael Jackson's music much either, but he was a pioneer so I put him on the list. There are lots of individual jazz and blues musicians I could have put down, but most people wouldn't know who they were so I tried to keep it main stream and relevant to all.
Anyway, I know we all like to joke around and have fun- I do too. But every now and then I gotta go for a reality check. I LOVE music and it saddens me to see all the great talent we've lost because of someone's inability to overcome their addiction.
Any thoughts or ideas from anyone?
Any names of music we can't include in our soundtrack?
Hope I didn't bring everyone down. I'm the first one to goof around to lighten things up. It's just that I was reading through this post and realized that Janis Joplin couldn't be used and it made me sad and it made me start thinking....
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Anyway, the above is what I wrote. I just wanted to share it with people. All the bands that I know of that have been ruined by drugs kind of boggles the mind. We've lost so many great musicians to addiction. It made me realize the world has lost so many un-named people that had a lot to offer the world also but they lost the battle with their addiction.
I don't want anyone here to lose that battle.
Stay strong,
Greatgreebo
ps-feel free to go to the social side and weigh in on Neil Diamond. I triple dog dare you :-)
Yes Vicki, I was joking....... so many judgements and myths flying.......my point is, how can we truly know another's life? In all honesty we can't..... and music: rock or jazz or an opera or soul or country or deep southern baptist or strings or a flute ...... in my humble opinion it is a necessary element that feeds the soul..... and that is hard to put in a box. Especially a box filled with judgement.... but then I am one that thinks Micheal Jackson had incredible talent..... I think I am a bit odd here :) i hope you have never seen me sit in judgement of others, however if I caused you doubt then I am so very sorry... I hope you know that would never be my intent.
born free...matt monro....i m telling my age now...make sure you crank it...maria
Hey~ Lateaugust:
..."but not to sure of anyone on this forum either"... You're joking right?
..."but not to sure of anyone on this forum either"... You're joking right?
Sorry...Fogelberg...
And....The theme from Rocky 1...by Michael Conti. I play this everyday. Loud. It's my "you can make it to the top" medicine. I know...it's corny but it works for me...:)
Not many females listed...Heart? Patti Smith? Janis Ian?( Lulu? LOL) Natalie Cole?
K.D.Lang? BARBRA?
And....The theme from Rocky 1...by Michael Conti. I play this everyday. Loud. It's my "you can make it to the top" medicine. I know...it's corny but it works for me...:)
Not many females listed...Heart? Patti Smith? Janis Ian?( Lulu? LOL) Natalie Cole?
K.D.Lang? BARBRA?
Jay-Z Beyonce Katy Perry Lady GaGa Daughtry Nickelback just some newer bands to cover the generational gap not sure of their drug/alcohol usage, but not too sure of anyone on this forum either... I love BoyzIIMen
REO Speedwagon, Boston, Black Sabbath, and heaven forbid yes Bon Jovi, Journey, Queen, AC/DC, bands that a lot of us "danced to the music" and to this day I love to listen to them......... and still dance too.
If you are looking for a poster child of bands...... have to say it would be Gene Simmons from Kiss....... he never drank, did drugs, and managed the band as well as a member....
My honest opinion, music is like politics...a bit of tolerance would be nice .. there is no absolute right or wrong..... However more so with music, I think most have forgotten the arts. Whether that be a painting or dance or music (from symphonies to ballet to jazz, etc etc) ... for me it is essential to the soul. And I am sure if I were to list all the music I really like, it would bore most to tears..... eclectic interest I will always strive for, or so I hope.
OIFMc What are your interests and favorites, I would really like to know, you kinda got cut off earlier !! Thank you if you are willing to share! :)
REO Speedwagon, Boston, Black Sabbath, and heaven forbid yes Bon Jovi, Journey, Queen, AC/DC, bands that a lot of us "danced to the music" and to this day I love to listen to them......... and still dance too.
If you are looking for a poster child of bands...... have to say it would be Gene Simmons from Kiss....... he never drank, did drugs, and managed the band as well as a member....
My honest opinion, music is like politics...a bit of tolerance would be nice .. there is no absolute right or wrong..... However more so with music, I think most have forgotten the arts. Whether that be a painting or dance or music (from symphonies to ballet to jazz, etc etc) ... for me it is essential to the soul. And I am sure if I were to list all the music I really like, it would bore most to tears..... eclectic interest I will always strive for, or so I hope.
OIFMc What are your interests and favorites, I would really like to know, you kinda got cut off earlier !! Thank you if you are willing to share! :)
Okay...a few others I'm thinking of now...Not exactly hard rock but...
James Taylor...big druggie but still making music and seems clean now...
Dan Folgerberg...nice music back in the day...died 2 years ago of cancer :(
Oh and what about Queen? I know Mercury died but not from drugs...
James Taylor...big druggie but still making music and seems clean now...
Dan Folgerberg...nice music back in the day...died 2 years ago of cancer :(
Oh and what about Queen? I know Mercury died but not from drugs...
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