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CONFUSION ABOUT SUBOXONE?!
Here is what I can tell you based on why I am going to be on suboxone!
I have been using and abusing(mainly abusing) painkillers for 10 years or so now. So many painkillers have apap(tylenol) and when an addict is abusing 30-40 pills per day, day after day that can be deadly! That is only 1 reason. I also spend tons of money on meds even when I was getting them through a DR script i was spengind over $200.00 per month, but without it is more like 500-600 each month.. Suboxone can be used in different ways for different people, for different reasons, and goals! What you see alot of on here is people using it as a quick acting detox tool, but when they stay on it too long or take too much then they get withdrawl from it, and it seems to be just exchanging one drug to another right?
Well, in my case I have actual pain that is usually my #1 reason for relapsing, then I have others as well and then once I get them I abuse them. With the suboxone you cannot get high, or a buzz from overtaking them. Also if you take other painkillers while on them the naloxone which is the other ingredient in suboxone, will block the painkillers affects. so you wont get a high or a buzz if you taker a 80mg oxycontin when on suboxone.. Plus Many many people have stated that it takes away the cravings for the other painkillers, and lets them get back to day to day life activities that they were not able to partake in due to the abuse of painkillers and the sickness without them.. So if I was to be on this for the rest of my life that would be better than abusing these painkillers and risking my life, and then spending my rent money, bill money and every other cent we have to get high... ALL AROUND THIS IS THE BEST THING FOR ME! AND MANY OTHERS!
When I can get a job and hold it down after getting on suboxone and bringing in money to help my 14yr relationsship then that will be a start.. Then I will also get my many other goals going strong as well, which I CANNOT DO ON PAINKILLERS! So it can do many positive things for me and many others.. Then down the line when things are better and more productive (ALONG WITH MY AFTERCARE, AND ADDICTION COUNSELING) I can worry about tapering down off the sub very slowly, and that will be my ONE AND ONLY LAST DETOX FOR LIFE! Then I will have the tools to be able to stay clean and have more tolls to help identify with the reasons, and triggers as to why I abuse..
This is just what I am using it for, and for many others they just want something for a quick detox off opiates.. That is not what I am speaking of just to be real clear!!
HOPE THIS HELPS!!
I have been using and abusing(mainly abusing) painkillers for 10 years or so now. So many painkillers have apap(tylenol) and when an addict is abusing 30-40 pills per day, day after day that can be deadly! That is only 1 reason. I also spend tons of money on meds even when I was getting them through a DR script i was spengind over $200.00 per month, but without it is more like 500-600 each month.. Suboxone can be used in different ways for different people, for different reasons, and goals! What you see alot of on here is people using it as a quick acting detox tool, but when they stay on it too long or take too much then they get withdrawl from it, and it seems to be just exchanging one drug to another right?
Well, in my case I have actual pain that is usually my #1 reason for relapsing, then I have others as well and then once I get them I abuse them. With the suboxone you cannot get high, or a buzz from overtaking them. Also if you take other painkillers while on them the naloxone which is the other ingredient in suboxone, will block the painkillers affects. so you wont get a high or a buzz if you taker a 80mg oxycontin when on suboxone.. Plus Many many people have stated that it takes away the cravings for the other painkillers, and lets them get back to day to day life activities that they were not able to partake in due to the abuse of painkillers and the sickness without them.. So if I was to be on this for the rest of my life that would be better than abusing these painkillers and risking my life, and then spending my rent money, bill money and every other cent we have to get high... ALL AROUND THIS IS THE BEST THING FOR ME! AND MANY OTHERS!
When I can get a job and hold it down after getting on suboxone and bringing in money to help my 14yr relationsship then that will be a start.. Then I will also get my many other goals going strong as well, which I CANNOT DO ON PAINKILLERS! So it can do many positive things for me and many others.. Then down the line when things are better and more productive (ALONG WITH MY AFTERCARE, AND ADDICTION COUNSELING) I can worry about tapering down off the sub very slowly, and that will be my ONE AND ONLY LAST DETOX FOR LIFE! Then I will have the tools to be able to stay clean and have more tolls to help identify with the reasons, and triggers as to why I abuse..
This is just what I am using it for, and for many others they just want something for a quick detox off opiates.. That is not what I am speaking of just to be real clear!!
HOPE THIS HELPS!!
I think it is a website not a place.. But not too sure
Where is naabt is it anywhere near Houston. I don't have much money for gas right now.
Hey hun. go to naabt.org
Great site for research..........
Great site for research..........
Wow, I read that somewhere but I have just been thinking it was the naloxone that kept it from getting you high.. Thanks for the extra info!! I am trying my hardest to read up and know what I am getting myself into.. I really want my life back, and I need to do whatever it takes..
Thanks for caring man, and thanks for all the support to everyone who understands how bad my addiction really is, and knows why I would rather be on a miantanance program of Suboxone than be DEAD!! Seems to be a simple choice to me at this point!!
Thanks for caring man, and thanks for all the support to everyone who understands how bad my addiction really is, and knows why I would rather be on a miantanance program of Suboxone than be DEAD!! Seems to be a simple choice to me at this point!!
I am with you on the suboxone. I have tried it all when it comes to quitting. I am satisfied with Sub maintenance for now. I don't have to crave all the time, think up lies, come up with money, etc.
Each person's addiction is just that: EACH PERSON'S.
I don't know who sickcookie is but that is the stone age, haven't been to the real world for a loooong time response to your post.
BTW, Suboxone binds tighter on the mu receptor than other opiates/opioids and that is why other pain killers won't get you high. The naloxone is only to prevent IV use and has a poor bioavailability, meaning a tiny amount only gets into your system. If it was too much, it would knock all the Buprenorphine off the sites as well.
Luke
Each person's addiction is just that: EACH PERSON'S.
I don't know who sickcookie is but that is the stone age, haven't been to the real world for a loooong time response to your post.
BTW, Suboxone binds tighter on the mu receptor than other opiates/opioids and that is why other pain killers won't get you high. The naloxone is only to prevent IV use and has a poor bioavailability, meaning a tiny amount only gets into your system. If it was too much, it would knock all the Buprenorphine off the sites as well.
Luke
Good outlook...like when you are on a diet and you screw up and eat a piece of cake...you have not failed but have to get back on track...of course this is a bit more serious than that..way more...I will look at it day by day...As you can tell...i do not like failing and am an acheiver (or at least I used to be) as now I kinda just exist and do the things I have to do every day...but believe it or not I went way out of my way to help a patient at work today,,,over and beyond the call of duty to get help for an uninsured patient who may lose his foot if he does not get some serious help..I really felt good about it because it was alot of work and energy and i really did not have to do it...I did not know I had it in me still...I have tapered down so low and my focus has been on myslf and just getting by everyday...I think that if I was still at my high dose that I may not have been as helpful....anyway
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