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Dr. who will prescribe Clonodine not Suboxone
Hi,
Can anyone recommend a doctor in the Denver, CO area who will prescribe Clonodine rather than Suboxone? I've called several doctors and they all want to put me on Suboxone. I stopped taking Tramadol December 18, but have still been having some withdrawal symptoms which I suspect are from the Imodium I started taking to reduce the w/d symptoms (I can't win!). I'm trying to stop the Imodium but stopping it is almost as uncomfortable as the Tramadol withdrawals. Even if I just try and taper off the Imodium I'm having pretty gnarly withdrawal symptoms that are only alleviated by taking a few more Imodium. I want out of this terrible cycle and I've heard Clonodine works wonders. Can anyone help?? Thanks!
Can anyone recommend a doctor in the Denver, CO area who will prescribe Clonodine rather than Suboxone? I've called several doctors and they all want to put me on Suboxone. I stopped taking Tramadol December 18, but have still been having some withdrawal symptoms which I suspect are from the Imodium I started taking to reduce the w/d symptoms (I can't win!). I'm trying to stop the Imodium but stopping it is almost as uncomfortable as the Tramadol withdrawals. Even if I just try and taper off the Imodium I'm having pretty gnarly withdrawal symptoms that are only alleviated by taking a few more Imodium. I want out of this terrible cycle and I've heard Clonodine works wonders. Can anyone help?? Thanks!
Thank you Barb! And congrats on your 6 weeks and 2 days! Good idea on the protein shakes. I am a vegan so I get tons of plant based nutrients but no animal proteins or calcium. There are a few vegan shakes I've tried in the past I can add back into my regimen. Also, I did pick up 3 different amino acid supplements last night and to be honest I think they're already helping. Thank you everyone for all of your support and feedback. It truly does help when you feel so isolated and embarrassed by this stupid addiction.
Try to drink protein shakes. Like muscle milk ( which is actually lactose free) tons of protein, vitamins and minerals. It's very good for you.
Try and get more potassium from foods, or the protein shakes.
A potassium supplement doesn't have much in it. Usually only 7% of the RDA.
The protein shakes are great for wd, but so good for you I plan to use from here on out, just not as often. I'm six weeks and two days clean, and swear by those protein drinks.
It takes quite awhile to heal.
I have heard of immodium wds too, but would recommend seeing a dr as those above have stated.
Good luck, congrats on your clean time!
Try and get more potassium from foods, or the protein shakes.
A potassium supplement doesn't have much in it. Usually only 7% of the RDA.
The protein shakes are great for wd, but so good for you I plan to use from here on out, just not as often. I'm six weeks and two days clean, and swear by those protein drinks.
It takes quite awhile to heal.
I have heard of immodium wds too, but would recommend seeing a dr as those above have stated.
Good luck, congrats on your clean time!
Jim how much imodium were you taking? Any other supplements anyone can recommend in addition to what I'm taking? (I'm also taking calcium and echinachea in addition to the ones mentioned above.)
Thanks Vicki,
I am doing magnesium but not potassium (other than bananas), I will add that to the regimen (which right now is 2,000 mg of vitamin C every day, 500mg magnesium, B12, a women's multivitamin and lots of water and green tea).
I also am making an appt. to see my general practitioner since something else may be wrong. Thanks for all the words of encouragement, this thing is so life-destroying and I don't wish it on anyone.
I am doing magnesium but not potassium (other than bananas), I will add that to the regimen (which right now is 2,000 mg of vitamin C every day, 500mg magnesium, B12, a women's multivitamin and lots of water and green tea).
I also am making an appt. to see my general practitioner since something else may be wrong. Thanks for all the words of encouragement, this thing is so life-destroying and I don't wish it on anyone.
Sorry Nicole I missed the part where you CTd on DEC18..... Yeah Viki and IBKleen are most likely correct. Not sure this is normal...maybe you should check with a dr.
There were stories that Imodium...although it does not cross the BBB....would ease some wd symptons. I tried it this time out. A prescribed does at bed time and it did help with the RLS. I was getting 7-8 hours sleep a night from day 3. but I just quit taking it tuesday and have no ill effects. You never know. Everyone's experience is different but I would see a dr ASAP.
Peace
There were stories that Imodium...although it does not cross the BBB....would ease some wd symptons. I tried it this time out. A prescribed does at bed time and it did help with the RLS. I was getting 7-8 hours sleep a night from day 3. but I just quit taking it tuesday and have no ill effects. You never know. Everyone's experience is different but I would see a dr ASAP.
Peace
Okay Sweetie...here's what you need to do:
It sounds like you're not getting the minerals that you need. Focus on the potassium and magnesium. Especially magnesium. It's a good brain assist and is also calming. You don't need a lot but you need enough. Also, when you're feeling that horrible restlessness, soak in an Epsom salt bath. Epsom salts are mostly magnesium salts. It's what you need for now.
I sympathize with you because I know very well how hard this is and how much work it is getting sober. But, the pay off will come. I promise.
It sounds like you're not getting the minerals that you need. Focus on the potassium and magnesium. Especially magnesium. It's a good brain assist and is also calming. You don't need a lot but you need enough. Also, when you're feeling that horrible restlessness, soak in an Epsom salt bath. Epsom salts are mostly magnesium salts. It's what you need for now.
I sympathize with you because I know very well how hard this is and how much work it is getting sober. But, the pay off will come. I promise.
I too had never heard of such a thing, and years ago, I had a patient (IBS) who claims she was addicted to Immodium and had withdrawals just like she would have if she was taking an opiate. I thought...what???
I did some searching, it's one of those subjects where not a lot of professionals can agree on. Some say without a doubt, it does not cross the BBB, others say it does, but then is reabsorbed. Also, there is some thought that some medications, spices, supplements, and foods can actually allow it to easily cross the BBB.
I find it very peculiar.
How much Immodium do you take and how long have you been on it? I too would ecnourage you to explore other avenues to be safe. If indeed it SEEMS to be the Immodium perhaps you could try a taper? I mean, if, in theory, it's acting like an opiate in your system and causing the w/ds...perhaps you would approach it from that standpoint?...just like an opiate?
I wish you luck...let us know what you find out. This is a topic I think most of us would be intrigued by!
I did some searching, it's one of those subjects where not a lot of professionals can agree on. Some say without a doubt, it does not cross the BBB, others say it does, but then is reabsorbed. Also, there is some thought that some medications, spices, supplements, and foods can actually allow it to easily cross the BBB.
I find it very peculiar.
How much Immodium do you take and how long have you been on it? I too would ecnourage you to explore other avenues to be safe. If indeed it SEEMS to be the Immodium perhaps you could try a taper? I mean, if, in theory, it's acting like an opiate in your system and causing the w/ds...perhaps you would approach it from that standpoint?...just like an opiate?
I wish you luck...let us know what you find out. This is a topic I think most of us would be intrigued by!
Hi Viki,
So, I've been on TONS of vitamins and minerals, and they were working for a while then two weeks ago I started feeling the w/d symptoms again. So, I took 7 (14mg) of Imodium and that helped. The next day I was fine but then the following day I started feeling the chills, that creepy crawly skin feeling, restless and overall icky again. I'm just trying to ditch the Imodium all together but it's not working and I just feel terrible again.
So, I've been on TONS of vitamins and minerals, and they were working for a while then two weeks ago I started feeling the w/d symptoms again. So, I took 7 (14mg) of Imodium and that helped. The next day I was fine but then the following day I started feeling the chills, that creepy crawly skin feeling, restless and overall icky again. I'm just trying to ditch the Imodium all together but it's not working and I just feel terrible again.
Well, I considered calling my GP but thought I'd start with Addiction medicine specialists. I suppose I should just call my GP. And yes, unfortunately, I do believe the Imodium is perpetuating the w/d symptoms because Loperamide is an opioid-receptor agonist and acts on the μ-opioid receptors in the myenteric plexus of the large intestine. (bottom line it acts like a very low dose narcotic, which in large doses, can cause withdrawals :( )
Hi- I have to agree with IBK here. Something is off a little. Do you think much of this may be emotional? Immodium just doesn't cause these symptoms as it doesn't cross the blood/brain barrier.
I suggest you toss the Immodium now and get yourself on a good regimen of vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. The clonidine is not useful now.
Think about getting involved in some recovery care, as well. It will help and support you.
Good luck
I suggest you toss the Immodium now and get yourself on a good regimen of vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. The clonidine is not useful now.
Think about getting involved in some recovery care, as well. It will help and support you.
Good luck
Howdy....almost any GP doc should prescribe Clonadine if you tell them you are detoxing from opiates. And yes it does work wonders....
Are these docs you're calling GP or are they Addiction specialists?
Peace
Jimi
Are these docs you're calling GP or are they Addiction specialists?
Peace
Jimi
Hi,
You are having withdrawal symptoms from Imodium? I have never, ever heard of anyone going through withdrawal from it. Are you certain there isn't something else going on? Have you talked with your doctor?
As far as the Clonidine goes--it is a blood pressure medication that often helps during the first few days of withdrawal. Two months out you should not be having symptoms and the Clonidine will do you no good at this point.
Something is just not right and I have to suggest that you go and get a good check-up and get honest with your doctor. Get to the bottom of this.
I wish you the best and I hope you get to feeling better soon.
You are having withdrawal symptoms from Imodium? I have never, ever heard of anyone going through withdrawal from it. Are you certain there isn't something else going on? Have you talked with your doctor?
As far as the Clonidine goes--it is a blood pressure medication that often helps during the first few days of withdrawal. Two months out you should not be having symptoms and the Clonidine will do you no good at this point.
Something is just not right and I have to suggest that you go and get a good check-up and get honest with your doctor. Get to the bottom of this.
I wish you the best and I hope you get to feeling better soon.
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