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1866508 tn?1333984613

Endeavor to Persevere

Greetings to all......I feel like I need to  get this out there even though I am so embarassed  and angry. I was 3 days into my detox as some of you are already aware..and this morning my uncle came over to pay me some money he owed me and instead of money he brought pills!!!! I waas probably at my weakest point in my detox and so, albeit begrudgingly,I took them and yes I took some of them so I have fallen off the horse yet again!! I am so angry with myself (and my uncle) for allowing this addiction to win again....I had to go and delete my addiction tracker...that was really painful.....and here I go having to start at this again......my apologies to all of you who have been so kind to offer your advice and words of encouragement, I feel like such a loser..I'm gonna go do some serious soul searching here....as I must "Endeavor to Persevere"...peace.......

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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Believe me when I tell you - like so many others here have said - you are not a loser! Don't make the mistake of judging your self-worth or your struggle for sobriety on how you FEEL. If you allow your emotions to lead you, they will take you here, there and everywhere ... especially now that you are fighting this battle to get clean. I went through something quite similar a few years back. I went into rehab because I had been on drugs/narcotics for chronic pain for years, nearly 10 of them. I wanted to get clean so I could determine what my pain level had become. The rehab facility used suboxone to wean patients off whatever they were addicted/dependent on. I was only there a week, and I sept through most of it. When I came home I was anxious and irritable. The rehab place had given me absolutely no information or skills in regards to what to expect from post-rehab. Looking back at the experience now, it truly makes me angry because I can't imagine how anyone could have stayed clean after being in that place. The two doctors than owned the facility were only in it for the money. No one could possibly convince me otherwise! Several days later, I ended up going back into rehab at a well known area hospital. I had begun going through withdrawls. Due to a complete lack of information from the first rehab; I was very confused. I thought I was supposed to be 'cured' already. The second rehab place sent me home with suboxone and told me to locate a doctor that prescribed it, a.s.a.p. When I came here to medhelp I learned about the nature of suboxone - it was quite addictive, I was very upset. I didn't understand the reason for getting me off one narcotic only to put me on another! I nearly weaned myself myself off the suboxone when I withdrawls became seriously difficult. Well ... that's when my oldest daughter came over to see how I was doing. She also happens to have back pain like I do. She saw how I was and then dug her methadone out of her purse and 'made' me take them. Obviously, I didn't fight off what she was offering and  it happened on more than one occasion. I recall crying like a baby because I was so-o disappointed and disgusted with myself. Sound familiar?? Granted, the methadone got me off the suboxone. ... I got myself off the methadone, cold turkey. After being on 10mg. daily for @ 18 months I just stopped taking it, period. I was scared to death about what I would go through, but oddly enough I had no withdrawls whatsoever -  I know now just how  fortunate I was... but it took me 3  tries at it before I could finally claim my sobriety! I understand, all too well, how you are feeling - but what's done is done. Beating yourself up isn't going to change what's over and done. Don't drag this mistake around with you. Getting clean is difficult enough - you don't need to punish yourself because you made a wrong choice. Just hold onto one day, one hour or one minute at a time. Whatever it takes to get you yet another day of sobriety! Mark you came here and owned up to what happened. That couldn't have been easy - in fact, I see it as a very brave act. I hope that you will give yourself a break. Please, while you work at your recovery, be kind and patient with yourself. You will need both to keep yourself clean, because being drug free IS both an act of kindness and self worth! Here you will be understood because we have either done it ourselves or have experience with someone that has. I have seen my own 'story' (countless times!) in the posts left here at medhelp. Although we are all uniquely different  people - our addiction(s) are not. At it's core, addiction is just not that complex. You are fighting for the quality of the rest of your life!  You CAN do this Mark. No matter what, keep coming back here and let us know how you are getting along, okay??  Take care Mark!  
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1767882 tn?1331409169
Get back on that horse man. Have you flushed the rest of the pills? You know where those pills will take you. And don't beat yourself up over this. Make it up to yourself by getting back in recovery. OK?
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Hey man im glad you ended up posting this out....  Flush them all and keep moving forward..  

Sent you message also...

Don't let this guilt consume you.  Learn from it and move forward.
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Thanks for the words of encouragement, and you are right I know all too well where it goes from here....I haven't flushed them yet though....damn it is amazing how the demon side of this gets in your head and rears it's ugly head when you are trying to get  away from it.....thanks for the response and I am gonna' go out and do some serious soul searching here and leave the pills here and hopefully when I get back I will have the strength to throw them down the toilet....peace.....

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Hey bro....thanks for staying the course with me....it means a lot...I am gonna' go out in nature and try to get my head right and come back and do the right thing...thanks so much for the support...I'll post again soon...peace.....

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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Hi Mark.. You are not a looser You are a Addict.. There is a difference. I'm sorry to read of your relapse.. but Grateful that you posted. You are doing as I would to get my head on straight. I hope the Mother eases your temptation and strengthens your resolve. the pills are your death. get rid of them before they can you.. speak with your Uncle about how serious you are How you desire to be Free.. I will send a Pray for you for Courage for Strength and for Determination to Grab your life back from a controlling force.. respectfully. lesa
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Thank you for the support....I know what it is I must do here it is just so incredible how the addiction has so many weapons to pull out on you....I was doing really good and now this.....I am gonna' go and sit by the water and do some serious thinking about who I am and what it is I want out of the rest of my life....thanks again for the kind words and support ...peace

Pilamaye kola......mitakuye oyasin....
(Thank you friend...we are all related)

n8tiv_ndn
Mark

                             To Walk the Red Road

To walk the Red Road,
You have God-given rights,
You have the right to pray,
You have the right to dance,
You have the right to think,
You have the right to protect,
You have the right to know Mother Earth,
You have the right to dream,
You have the right to vision,
You have the right to teach,
You have the right to learn,
You have the right to happiness,
You have the right to fix the wrongs,
You have the right to the Spirit World,


To Walk the Red Road
is to know sacrifice, suffering,

To Walk the Red Road
is to know you will one day
cross to the Spirit World,
and you will not be afraid.
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just getn n...sorry for late response...was thinkn of u today as i watchd ocean..i know u feel bad right now but it happens to the best of us...ive done it few times tryn to quit...never got passed day 3......this time something clicked...hang n there my freind,,you can do anything....
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Hey brother........thanks for the response...I hope your day went well and you are gaining strenghth as time goes by....as you can see I fell off my horse (again) Sometimes I wonder if i've forgotten how to ride..lol......

I just came back from spending some time thinking and gathering up some strength...i will start the process again....I guess we only really fail if we stop getting up to try again....right???   peace bro........

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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you my freind have great mind with words...they helpd me today,,,ocean has moods also,today she was unstable and turbulant...like me...or maybe all of us...did supply me with dinner,,nothing special but i went....good luck,,gonna have tough time tonight and tommorow with the cravings myself....take care.
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1866508 tn?1333984613
thanks man....it has been an unsettled day for me most definitely.....I always enjoy the ocean as it puts many things into perspective with the sheer size and amazing raw power... I will continue to keep you in my prayers as I have since we first began talking you stay strong and maybe help an old Indian to make this journey with you........peace bro...

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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just lit candles...seems to make me more calm...will post soon....cleaning fish and heating grease...hands nasty but wanted to reply...b cool.
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1866508 tn?1333984613
no problem....enjoy your dinner........

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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hey man,just wanted to say hi before it got to late...i did copy that  and gonna keep it n my journals,,,tommorow is another day,,ill b lookn for your posts..b cool....
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1866508 tn?1333984613
thanks man I hope find sas much strength in the words as I do............peace bro.......

n8tiv_ndn
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i will..probly forever...thanx.
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I'm hopin the third time is a charm for me bro, went 8 months the last time before I collapsed. Don't kill yourself over it get back on and start again, sounds like u got the will.
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Thanks for the support  I am trying to let go of the fact that I screwed up and just get back up and keep trying....so i lost a little ground here but this battle and the war carries on...thanks for the support.....peace....

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Hey slenderthread...thank you very much for your kind words of reassurance as well as the honesty... it really does help me with my resolve to continue this battle as it is truly that my life and happiness is on the table here. I have been at this off and on for soooo loooong and I do have legitimate prescribable pain issues....every doctor that looks at my charts or mri's is all to willing to hand out scripts, however I know that the relief is but a fleeting moment paled by the comparable enslavement of opiates. The amazing power of these medications are incredible....much as life.... there is both good and bad in them...and they must be precariously balanced.....it isn't the "tool" that is the problem it is all in how we use them...and I, for one, am tired of being on the end of the yo-yo and will continue to right my ship and carry the fight to the front....thank you again for your time and compassion and know that your words were heard and that your truth has helped.....peace....

Pilamaye kola.. mitakuye oyasin...

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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Hi, Mark---so sorry you had a bad patch today. But start again tomorrow. It is a new day, clean, bright, and waiting for you to inscribe your story upon it. I am praying for physical and emotional peace and comfort for you, and healing for your head and heart. I'll be watching for your posts today---Margaret xox
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Hi Mark, that poem is beautiful. It almost made me cry. Forgive my ignorance, but did you write it or is it a poem of your ancestors? In any case, I'll bet it is lovely in the native tongue.

I don't think you have forgotten how to ride the horse, you just have a wild, unpredictable one that tries to buck you off. Get back on and work with him and train him. You can do it. I have faith in you.

Take care and God bless,

Minn :)
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1416133 tn?1351123217
Did you flush those pills?
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That's my question have you flushed the pills. If you don't they will flush your life down the toilet. You have opiates in your system right now so your power of choice is gone. Once the pills are in me they are in control. Please keep posting but I also noticed you weren't mentioning the strength you were trying to gain by clearing your head? How do you do that high? I've been right where you are so many times there is no deep philosophical awareness here there is relapse and the hell of addiction. Please stay close seems to me you're in the throws of your DOC it's not a moral issue. We have all been there and I hated when everyone kept telling me to flush but I did it only to relapse again. I have cancer so I have an endless supply of pills like you but I don't want them they will kill me not the cancer I was taking them to numb my emotions not my physical pain. I'm not judging you I'm sharing my experience and each time I relapsed it was so much harder to start again. Please stay close and be as honest as you can even though you're using I need your experience because I know I'm one pill away from where you are and I'm fighting to not go there. Sharon
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1866508 tn?1333984613
Margaret....thank you for the words of encouragement and you are right...today is a new day....I just got up as I stayed up last night and greeted the sun this morning in a prayer ceremony....I have not used yet today......your words will help to give me strength...the battle will continue.....thank you again for your support....peace.....

Pilamaye kola.....

n8tiv_ndn
Mark
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