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Getting off oxycontin - can't sleep
So - my wife says you all may be able to help me. Been trying to get off oxycontin - today is 14th day. Can't sleep - *****. Started drinking a bit this weekend. Hate that b/c I don't really drink. Been taking extra vitamins - tried a few sleeping pills. All ***** - no help.
hey Jason,
every dealer I ever met was really nice, treated me like a "brother" and would gladly go out with me for a beer or whatever. I have never seen any dealer being shady or gangster like, they are smart well read and ready to take every penny you have to feed your adicition. Your in business you know the best salespeople are the ones who don't need a sales pitch, they get close to you, first just an intro, then they take you out for lunch or coffee....eventually they befriend you and then and only then make their pitch. todays dealers are smarter then anyone ever gives them credit for. You contact did not seek you out cuz he cares for you he seeked you out because he knows you are vulnerable and could easily pop a free pill if you had the right incentive. He will say things like oh comeon know that your clean you can be an "occasional" use. theres no such thing anymore. You need to space yourself from all your contacts and never have the oportunity to use that they will definetly present to you.
As far as the praise for not going with him, they were all happy you didnt go but really did you want them to make a big deal about it. I guarentee if they did you would have felt like they didnt trust you going out and I am sure they were scared to react either way. Cut your family a little slack they will show their happiness and support when you can handle it. right now its easy for you to go either way and they so don't want to be a reason you get upset. personally I think it would be stupid to go out with the guy you agree so why should you be praised for not being stupid. You are intelligent and successful with a great life don't you dare throw it away for a stupid little pill.
antibiotics will only work if taken as directed. you need them prescribed to you and then follow the directions. you must take them for five to seven days depending on the type otherwise they wont work/
hope this helps Im on day 21 now and still having sleep issues my doctor says its because Im an anxious guy who tries to do things too fast sound familiar.
every dealer I ever met was really nice, treated me like a "brother" and would gladly go out with me for a beer or whatever. I have never seen any dealer being shady or gangster like, they are smart well read and ready to take every penny you have to feed your adicition. Your in business you know the best salespeople are the ones who don't need a sales pitch, they get close to you, first just an intro, then they take you out for lunch or coffee....eventually they befriend you and then and only then make their pitch. todays dealers are smarter then anyone ever gives them credit for. You contact did not seek you out cuz he cares for you he seeked you out because he knows you are vulnerable and could easily pop a free pill if you had the right incentive. He will say things like oh comeon know that your clean you can be an "occasional" use. theres no such thing anymore. You need to space yourself from all your contacts and never have the oportunity to use that they will definetly present to you.
As far as the praise for not going with him, they were all happy you didnt go but really did you want them to make a big deal about it. I guarentee if they did you would have felt like they didnt trust you going out and I am sure they were scared to react either way. Cut your family a little slack they will show their happiness and support when you can handle it. right now its easy for you to go either way and they so don't want to be a reason you get upset. personally I think it would be stupid to go out with the guy you agree so why should you be praised for not being stupid. You are intelligent and successful with a great life don't you dare throw it away for a stupid little pill.
antibiotics will only work if taken as directed. you need them prescribed to you and then follow the directions. you must take them for five to seven days depending on the type otherwise they wont work/
hope this helps Im on day 21 now and still having sleep issues my doctor says its because Im an anxious guy who tries to do things too fast sound familiar.
Hi, jason
hey, you really need going to the doctor for that infected arm to be given the right antibiotics... antibiotics need to be the right one, taken for the right amount of time... otherwise is crap, it doesn't work at all and the infection won't disappear unless it is treated with antibiotics so...... no way out here but the doctor, i'm afraid.
about your family, we are not very good at talking about stuff but it seems you really need someone encouraging you a little.... , so why don't you talk to them and just tell you need a hug... you could even got one !!!! :)
you did sooo well by not going with your friend... if he is one of your contacts, red signal. after a couple of beers you could start thinking... you know. Your recovery is first.
hey, you really need going to the doctor for that infected arm to be given the right antibiotics... antibiotics need to be the right one, taken for the right amount of time... otherwise is crap, it doesn't work at all and the infection won't disappear unless it is treated with antibiotics so...... no way out here but the doctor, i'm afraid.
about your family, we are not very good at talking about stuff but it seems you really need someone encouraging you a little.... , so why don't you talk to them and just tell you need a hug... you could even got one !!!! :)
you did sooo well by not going with your friend... if he is one of your contacts, red signal. after a couple of beers you could start thinking... you know. Your recovery is first.
Hey, How is everyone today? I am feeling a bit better. Although conflicted. Last night, one of my friends (aka contacts) came by the house. My wife doesn't know this person and wow - freaked. I got rid of him and all but, heck, the guy is a great guy - love to shoot the bull with him. Very smart.
Anyway, I almost found myself going out for a beer with him. Then I literally turned around in the yard (we were all out by the pool) and they were all standing there staring at me (my family). All of them. I felt like I was 3!
Didn't go. After my buddy left - everyone just went on with whatever they were doing. I felt like I was in the twighlight zone man. Do these people not get what I had just gone through? Here I was expecting a pat on the back or a medal or something - so to speak - and no one was payng attention maybe. No clue.
Anyway, wife and I went out with my father for lunch yesterday - he's pretty concerned about me. Maybe I shouldn't have told them about my issues - not his bag ya know? And, man, I've been taking some antibiotics b/c I messed up my arm a bit and it is infected and swollen but they are not working very well, maybe b/c the antibiotics are just an old prescription of my dad's and my wife's actually.
Think I am not comfortable going to the doctor about it. Never know what is going to come out of my mouth these days. My filters seem to be off.
How is everyone doing? Please - do tell.
Jason
Anyway, I almost found myself going out for a beer with him. Then I literally turned around in the yard (we were all out by the pool) and they were all standing there staring at me (my family). All of them. I felt like I was 3!
Didn't go. After my buddy left - everyone just went on with whatever they were doing. I felt like I was in the twighlight zone man. Do these people not get what I had just gone through? Here I was expecting a pat on the back or a medal or something - so to speak - and no one was payng attention maybe. No clue.
Anyway, wife and I went out with my father for lunch yesterday - he's pretty concerned about me. Maybe I shouldn't have told them about my issues - not his bag ya know? And, man, I've been taking some antibiotics b/c I messed up my arm a bit and it is infected and swollen but they are not working very well, maybe b/c the antibiotics are just an old prescription of my dad's and my wife's actually.
Think I am not comfortable going to the doctor about it. Never know what is going to come out of my mouth these days. My filters seem to be off.
How is everyone doing? Please - do tell.
Jason
wow, jason.... you are going through a lot of stuff !!
first of all, congrats on your clean time :)
and now, please, i know you have a lot of problems since you quitted but do not think for a second that those problems are because of this fact. Trust me, while on active addiction, all the problems were there but hidden... it was just a matter of time, you would be facing much worse problems than the current problems you are having.
there is something important now for you.... soon after detoxing, we are really emotionally messed up, all our emotions are over the place and do not trust them as to make any important decision about your life or your relationship now, please. I said to myself that i was not going to trust my emotions for some months cause one day you think all the blame is on the others, the next day you beat yourself for everything from your past life or you could go on psycoanalizing every thing until feeling totally exhausted....and drained. Do not reach this point.
one thing is going to the root of our addiction when we feel strong enough and another exhaust ourselves when we are so emotional and weak. Please, do not wear out yourself at this time, take each day at a time and don't dwell on the past now, it is not the best time to do it right now. You will have time to solve your personal problems and to adress your addictive behaviour and much better with some professional help. You can really feel overwhelmed by your emotions and your thoughts and if you are guided by someone who knows how to do it, well... it is easier :)
about toxic relationships.... please, take easy here too. I was refering to other addicts mainly or the people who enable us in our addiction...as i said above, wait until you are well on your recovery to think about the relationship with your wife. Your state of mind will be different in a couple of months, you will think clearly then and you may regret then of any decision or conclusion you have reached now. Step by step and walk slowly here.:)
and of course your children love you, not only the younger ones.....it is only that the oldest may not know how to react now, help them by being communicative with them, spend time with your family just for the sake of it.... don't think a lot and just enjoy your clean time with them and have patience....we need time to put everything in its right place, be good to yourself here , ok ? :)
wish you all the best and keep posting and telling us how you are doing, you are not alone in your addiction and we really know what you are going through.
first of all, congrats on your clean time :)
and now, please, i know you have a lot of problems since you quitted but do not think for a second that those problems are because of this fact. Trust me, while on active addiction, all the problems were there but hidden... it was just a matter of time, you would be facing much worse problems than the current problems you are having.
there is something important now for you.... soon after detoxing, we are really emotionally messed up, all our emotions are over the place and do not trust them as to make any important decision about your life or your relationship now, please. I said to myself that i was not going to trust my emotions for some months cause one day you think all the blame is on the others, the next day you beat yourself for everything from your past life or you could go on psycoanalizing every thing until feeling totally exhausted....and drained. Do not reach this point.
one thing is going to the root of our addiction when we feel strong enough and another exhaust ourselves when we are so emotional and weak. Please, do not wear out yourself at this time, take each day at a time and don't dwell on the past now, it is not the best time to do it right now. You will have time to solve your personal problems and to adress your addictive behaviour and much better with some professional help. You can really feel overwhelmed by your emotions and your thoughts and if you are guided by someone who knows how to do it, well... it is easier :)
about toxic relationships.... please, take easy here too. I was refering to other addicts mainly or the people who enable us in our addiction...as i said above, wait until you are well on your recovery to think about the relationship with your wife. Your state of mind will be different in a couple of months, you will think clearly then and you may regret then of any decision or conclusion you have reached now. Step by step and walk slowly here.:)
and of course your children love you, not only the younger ones.....it is only that the oldest may not know how to react now, help them by being communicative with them, spend time with your family just for the sake of it.... don't think a lot and just enjoy your clean time with them and have patience....we need time to put everything in its right place, be good to yourself here , ok ? :)
wish you all the best and keep posting and telling us how you are doing, you are not alone in your addiction and we really know what you are going through.
Yes, I would rather be a struggling single mother than feeling like I am in a fake relationship. He says the right words, does the right things, keeps up the right appearances in front of friends and family but there is no true emotion behind any of that. The reason why women love to read romance novels, like sappy movies, love hallmark stores is all because we need the emotional stuff... the other stuff is just a bonus. I tell myself all the time that I need to just suck it up and be happy that he is still a good provider and that this secret of his is being paid for by his extra money. I tell myself it isnt fair to the kids to make them suffer and do without when he does function just fine on them. I know that if time ever comes that I leave it will be because of the emotional stuff not the checkbook.
I truly wish you the best in your recovery. I am a fighter and I have tried to fight to get the the man I married back. He keeps his use as hidden as he can, stashes of pills disposable income that I have know way to track. Most of the RA's here would counsel you that until you are doing this for yourself instead of for your wife that you are doing it for the wrong reason... that until you are doing it for yourself you will be ripe for relapse. There is one long term high dose opiate addict here who goes completely against that saying that for the first few months of his recovery all he thought about was how he was going to get he use under control so he could use in secret... then the lightbulb went off and he was ready to get clean. So I would be happy if my AH would want to get clean for me or our family... at least that would mean he was admitting a problem.
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