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[WannaHelp]

My husband has been in "Recovery" for almost six years from drinking and methanphetamines. About a month ago I found out he had been drinking again for a couple of months, nothing heavy but enough that "one was too many and a thousnad is not enough." We had a huge arguement over it and he ran back to his old neighborhood ie. his dealers house. He got "high" stayed there for about 4 hrs. then realized how stupid he was being and went straight to an AA meeting. Since this episode he has also realized that the Pain Management he has been in for his 4 crushed disc in his lower back is also an addiction. He takes Metahdone 3 times a day for maintance and Norcos to control the breakthrough pain as well as Tizanidine for the muscle spasams. He is also on BP meds and Xanax for anxiety. Now he knows there is a problem because the Norcos only last 1-2 weeks instead of a month and the Xanax last about 3 wks. He has agreed to go to rehab to detox and we are scheduled to go on Monday but he's out of meds now so if he is going through withdrawls now do we still need to Detox? How do I help him?

[atthebeach]

who is suggesting suboxone? at the detox center they give the sub for a short time to help with the detox and withdrawal. but just for a few days. wouldnt recommend it long term.. yes it would be replacing one for the other another addictive drug, hard to withdraw from. it is used to help keep people off of opiates, like methadone. maintenance like he is already on.of course he isnt very nice right now he is beginning his detox, feels like krap. i would suggest he still go on monday, he will not feel well for quite a few weeks . how much meth. is he on and for how long. methadone is a long withdrawal and very rough. my husband was very sick for 3 solid months, couldnt work, lost 30 lbs, stomach issues very very rough, couldnt sleep, very foggy, couldnt think right, no energy, looked like death warmed over, felt like he got hit by a mack truck, restless legs, sweats,sneezed hundreds of times a day. they put these toxins and poisons in their bodys for years and it takes months for them to flush them out. did you look at the health pages? if he is still taking alot of the meds. i dont know why he would be in withdrawal if he only stopped the norcos.
how old are your teenagers? it is terrible they have to witness their fathers addiction. but it impacted them in a positive way to stay away that is wonderful. i have 4 children unfortunately my two oldest did as daddy did not as he said. the praise the LORD they are clean now. my children are son 25, daughter 19, son 13 & son 11. it was a living hell for us because i wasnt in agreement with him using. he always denied he did and didnt admit to his addiction. it was constant lying,deceiving, screaming, yelling,fighting, i would find something he would deny or finally say yes and then i will stop. he was sorry he got caught not sorry he was using. your husband was in "recovery" from  alcohol and methamphemines, wow not much of a recovery was it. 30 days outpatient is a good start but he probably really needs something long term to help him stay clean,and counseling to get to the bottom and reason for  his addictive behavior.
i will pray for you all
blessings to you
debbie

[sudie58]

i didnt say that post very clearly, trying to say, if they are going to put him on the sub program he has to be in withdrawal from the norcs.

[sudie58]

personaly i agree with you about the sub, but if he is coming off methadone , perhaps is ok, and in detox he will be doing the sub program, it is right hes still taking the xanax, it shouldnt be done cold turkey,  in rehab they are going to use sub for that, and you have to be in withdrawal to start it, so that maybe why they havent given it to him, he is going to be snappy etc, the withdrawals are making him like that, so dont take it too personally,

[CATUF]

when it comes to rehab and detox, more is better.

MORE treatment is more important than going off to treatment with "the right attitude"

suboxen is a good thing -- see www.suboxone.com

CATUF
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[WannaHelp]

hes still taking the tizanidine and the xanax the dr said he should stay on his meds till he goes into detox but then didnt fill the norcos so im lost. they are the ones causing the w/d. i want to be strong and supportive but hes not very nice right now. and thinks im enjoying his suffering. he even accused me of tossing his meds since he agreed to go to rehab. (which i wouldnt do) because evrything says not to do cold turkey. what is suboxen? and isnt it just as bad? why would they trade one for the other?

[sudie58]

hi, well he is going to be right in withdrawal by monday, hes in it now, is he off all his meds or just the pain ones? he needs to drink loads of fluids , thats important, and get some imodium for his stomache, look at the thomas recipe, as attabeach said, lots to help there,

[WannaHelp]

he says hes going inpatient to detox and signed up for the 30 day intensive outpatient as well. he had been working with a mft a few yrs ago who said he was still lying to himself and wasnt ready. she thinks he is now but i agree i think the pain half the time is worse since hes been on the meds than it ever was before they started. i've never had an addiction so i don't really understand. i want to help and part of me sees him trying then, i see him in "pain" and want to make it stop. on the other hand i get mad that he cant just stop on his own. this is what i signed up for all those years ago. he keeps telling me he wants to do this on monday then he stared detoxing at home because he ran out of meds. now he has stomache "issues" and his legs are restless and hes is sweating and he hurts all over and no matter how much i pray or cry i can't make him feel better. I feel guilty for going to work so i get a break. to top it off we have 2 kids that are teenagers and are watching him go through this. they swear they will never do drugs thaks to him. i cant even get one of them to take tylenol for a fever half the time.

[atthebeach]

hello and welcome. well thats depend was he only going to rehab to detox or to stay and get help with his recovery? my husband went to detox and stayed 3 months to get himself back together after he was using again for 14 yrs. there are many things he can do for pain management. many times the pain is actually worse when they are on the meds. much of the pain is actually in their heads. my husband is also on bp meds and once he stopped doing the methadone and pills his anxiety got much better. he was on methadone for 10 yrs and did pills too. his wasnt for pain. just liked to get high. if he decides not to go to inpatient rehab then he definitely needs to get into counseling, support groups, addiction specialist, church, na/aa, needs to find out what has caused years of addiction and his demons to surface. church and the lord are a big part of my husband recovery and our familys healing and restoration. to help with his withdrawal go to the health pages at the top on the right. is he out of all his pain meds? if so he needs lots of fluids, immodium,sleepy time tea with valerian for sleeping, hot baths for aches and pains. have him come on here and read. there is lots of info and support here.
blessings to you
debbie