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Im in trouble
Ive been using vicidon for years. Now my supply is cut off. Someone suggested using tramadol just for a few days to ease the wds.I am working full time & take care of my sick mother & have 4 kids. I cant afford not to function. Please help me I don't know what to do.I know there have been problems when you are on tramadol for more then a few days but would it be ok just to get me through the worst part so I can function? Please help!
2sandy, if the $$ is that tight, you could probably use the $$ you're spending on the vic's...
i am SO not judging you. but staying with the addiction is probably not the answer.
please think about how you can quit. again - sounds like you could use that $$ you're spending on the pills. among all the other reasons to quit.
and at the end of the day - if there's a will (to get off,) there's a way.
when you're really ready - you'll stop. we all had to be ready before we stopped... no matter what anyone said.
good luck, hun...
i am SO not judging you. but staying with the addiction is probably not the answer.
please think about how you can quit. again - sounds like you could use that $$ you're spending on the pills. among all the other reasons to quit.
and at the end of the day - if there's a will (to get off,) there's a way.
when you're really ready - you'll stop. we all had to be ready before we stopped... no matter what anyone said.
good luck, hun...
SUBOXONE. It blocks the opiate receptors in your brain. You wont have any withdrawls at all. Well, with the exception of the doc asking you to come in your first day 12 hours into your detox. As soon as you get the suboxone you are better right away!!!
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how are you in trouble, being off the pills is the best thing for you. Being on them is when your in trouble. Think hard about what you wrote here "I am working full time & take care of my sick mother & have 4 kids. I cant afford not to function" If you get off them you wont have to make this statement on an internet forum ever again hopefully.
Some good news, vicoden wont be easy but its far from the worst w/d opiate. The worst is over in 7-10 tops.
Some good news, vicoden wont be easy but its far from the worst w/d opiate. The worst is over in 7-10 tops.
For the love of God I hope the withdrawals for vicodin aren't like tramadol. I've quit smoking, drinking, and other pain meds cold-turkey with absolutely no problems. I tried stopping tramadol three times cold turkey. Ha ha. I finally got so angry about being addicted that last week I did a four-day taper completely-off. I'm off now. But I'm not well.
I will be praying for you.
I will be praying for you.
I hope you didnt take too many Trams. You said you were going "to take a bunch". Have you used them before? I hope you are OK.
btw, you CAN afford to go to the ER if necessary. I dont know your financial situation, but I have no medical insurance and have had to go to ER a couple times since we lost the insurance. They will work with you on the bill. Sometimes, depending on your finances and situation, they may even wipe your bill off completely. THeres a form on the back of each bill they send that you can fill out for financial hardship and such. Look into this, if you need to go for any reason actually.
As for the other issues, I really feel for you, I do. I have 2 small kids, and i also used to care for my husbands father before he died. He was 93 and got cancer. We all lived in this house and it was very hard for me. I was still actively using during this time but there were those days when i would run out and not have anything to take until refill time. I still managed to take care of them all but it sucked.
I also read another post by you somewhere , where you are very depressed? Im not mixing you up with another sandy am I? Are you on any antidepressants at all? I hope you get through this OK, you can PM me anytime if you want to talk more privately. Wishing you all the best.
btw, you CAN afford to go to the ER if necessary. I dont know your financial situation, but I have no medical insurance and have had to go to ER a couple times since we lost the insurance. They will work with you on the bill. Sometimes, depending on your finances and situation, they may even wipe your bill off completely. THeres a form on the back of each bill they send that you can fill out for financial hardship and such. Look into this, if you need to go for any reason actually.
As for the other issues, I really feel for you, I do. I have 2 small kids, and i also used to care for my husbands father before he died. He was 93 and got cancer. We all lived in this house and it was very hard for me. I was still actively using during this time but there were those days when i would run out and not have anything to take until refill time. I still managed to take care of them all but it sucked.
I also read another post by you somewhere , where you are very depressed? Im not mixing you up with another sandy am I? Are you on any antidepressants at all? I hope you get through this OK, you can PM me anytime if you want to talk more privately. Wishing you all the best.
If you are going to taper, it is best to get someone to hold the pills for you so that you won't be tempted to take more than needed and you having to start all over again. I wish you the best of luck
either way you go...be safe..tapering with trams will not be as easy for u as a hydro taper as it is not ur drug of choice...since u r planning to quit this time then u need a taper that is written and planned with a quit day....trams does not help hydro wd much, for most...it can take the edge off perhaps..risky business...tapering with the vikes would be a better choice but if u dont have any then u just dont...can u talk to ur doctor for help with this dilemna?
This advice goes up against most of what you're getting ... if you can get more of the Vicoden, get it and go easy. Same goes for the Tramadol. This just isn't the right time for CT.
Withdrawals and quitting are much more successful when the whole thing is planned, and monitored by a health professional.
Just enough to get you through, then they gotta go.
Best of luck, and keep us posted!
Withdrawals and quitting are much more successful when the whole thing is planned, and monitored by a health professional.
Just enough to get you through, then they gotta go.
Best of luck, and keep us posted!
all i can say is when you break away you will feel like a new person feeling better and better every day. i only have 30 days under my belt but its a start. no more worrying about xxxxxxx pills is the best. i think most people are afraid of the wds therefore they keep abusing...thats how it was for me ...but it got to a point where i said this is crazy..you have to stop no matter what and i did a ct..by day 5 i was up and feeling ok and everyday since its getting better...high and low days but thats life...dont be afraid...so much love and support here. wish you the best maria
let us know how you're doing. Good luck, and like GTMI said, please.....be careful
Cant afford a er or to wait there.going to take a bunch of trams & see how that goes. just cant do this wd thing now. you dont have to agree with me but i will be careful. If I dont go to work no money comes in, if I dont feed & dress my mother there is no one else.If I dont take care of my kids they go hungry. My husband died last year & I really have no family to help. I am all alone& all they have.Thing are not as easy as it 1st seems. There is more going on but I wont go into details
Well I have to agree that Tramadols are not the answer. You can always go to the ER and have them give you something for the withdrawal.
What type of work do you do? What would you do if you had a severe case of the flu? More than likely you would stay at home in bed. That is what the withdrawls are going to be like. The best thing you can do is get it over with. I used the excuse of needing to have the energy to take care of my father before he died, and it just wasn't worth it. You have to bite the bullet and stop making excuses and stop this. You, your children, and your mother will be better for it.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but I was where you are. I got tired of going to all the different doctors to assure that I had a supply on hand. It took more time away from my family than the withdrawls did. Sure there are going to be times when you feel like you are dying, but it is only temporary. In my case, cold turkey was the only way I could go. I was abusing two drugs, Ambien and Hydros. I have now been off the ambien for 7 months and the hydros for 70+ days. I feel amazing. I have my life back and I can truly be the parent and daughter I was meant to be. I wish you the best of luck, but please consider carefully what you are doing when you trade one drug for another. If you aren't careful, you could end up addicted to both. I am always here to listen.
Susan
I don't mean to sound harsh, but I was where you are. I got tired of going to all the different doctors to assure that I had a supply on hand. It took more time away from my family than the withdrawls did. Sure there are going to be times when you feel like you are dying, but it is only temporary. In my case, cold turkey was the only way I could go. I was abusing two drugs, Ambien and Hydros. I have now been off the ambien for 7 months and the hydros for 70+ days. I feel amazing. I have my life back and I can truly be the parent and daughter I was meant to be. I wish you the best of luck, but please consider carefully what you are doing when you trade one drug for another. If you aren't careful, you could end up addicted to both. I am always here to listen.
Susan
I have never used ultram to ease w/d from opiates. I don't think it even attaches to the same receptors in the brain, so i think you'll still experience withdrawls and in the meantime begin a tolerance to the ultram. Ultram is not going to give you the energy and euphoria that lortab does. It just doesn't work the same in that aspect. Your best bet if you cannot take any time away is to get enough lortab to do a quick taper. I was never strong enough to do this. You have to be very VERY structured. Start with even doses-NOT HANDFULS. The goal is to hold off w/d not get high. (thats why i always failed). Take one pill every 6 hours. Do this for 4 days, then take one pill every 8 hours for 4 days, then 1 every 12 hours. Then 1/2 a pill every 12 hours etc....As you see, you will still have some discomfort but it will allow you to still function. IMO-just quit now. The world will not fall apart if you are laid up for 5 days. I know you think it will, but everyone will work together. The housework can wait, and things will be left for you when you are all done, but you'll be sober and won't have to worry about being a slave to some pill anymore.
Trammy WD's are way worse than vics, or percs. I have used all three and CT'd all of them the trammys mess with your brain big time.
I can relate, I was in the same boat as far as having a ton of responsibility. I know what it feels like to have kids, and other people being totally dependant on you. However, we are not invinceable, and we need help from others at some point in our lives. I too thought that my kids, house, job would literally fall apart when I went through w/d's. I used for over 10 years & did a long two month taper first & thought I was well prepared. I was still very ill for 11 days. There's no avoiding the w/d's, period. Ultram/Tramadol will just prolong the inevitable. However, everything still went A-OK with the kids, house etc. My DH & DD took over the household chores, and cared for my younger sons. My boss wasn't happy, but I still had a job at the end. Money was very tight for a while, but we survived. Even with me totally out of the picture, so to speak, for that length of time, everything was fine. I told everyone that I had the Flu from Hell. No one knows that I'm an addict. Do you have any close friends to come help you out for a week or so? Tell them you got food poisoning, the Flu, whatever. Even the best of us get very ill at some point, so just do what you would need to do as if this was the case. Getting clean, having your health back, and not having to worry about getting/having enough pills anymore is the best feeling in the world. It's so worth it. Keep posting, theres lots of knowlege & support here....
treat it like you have the flu. allot of what already has been posted, immodium, tyneyol.
If you feel that bad , do you have a family dr?
Someone you can explain this to? If you ever doubt the way you feel make sure you call 911. They will always help you. Even withdrawls, I know.
good luck to you
paaddict
If you feel that bad , do you have a family dr?
Someone you can explain this to? If you ever doubt the way you feel make sure you call 911. They will always help you. Even withdrawls, I know.
good luck to you
paaddict
They say tramadol w/ds are some of the worst ones..def worse than vicodin..so that wouldn't even cross my mind if i was you..if you need to get some more of what your currently taking and try and slowly taper down that would be more comfortable..but its going to be uncomfortable either way so as long as its say i feel like c/t is the best way to go..if you take immodium for the stomach..some tylenol or something like that for the pain (people think it wont do anything but its better than nothing)..then check out that thomas recipe and the amino acids..you can do it and still function..i worked through mine.
plz tell abouth this recipe i have been on lortab and useign the tarms when i run out, on day 2 without but its bad was on for 8 or 9 years
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