Hello , meganb congrats on wanting to get off , when i detoxed i jumped off at 7.5 mgs , they say once you get to 5mgs theres not much of a difference , in the wds, a few things to help you out, Protein shakes, daily vitamins, calcium and magnessium supplements, hot baths, exercise when possible and some good music. I would recommend taking the vitamins way before getting off , as it seemed to help me alot, try to eat healthy meals. for the sleep side of it i just used melatonin , and for any anxiety i used velarian root. Keep in mind the wds, will end, really at this point i would say get down to 5mgs then jump, but when i was at 7.5 i was stable and not sick, i never felt any of my taper. everyone is a bit different tho.
God Speed
You've been sick since the 20mgs, and continue to be so, you may want to stop. As long as you continue to take it, you will be sick. You're body is telling you it needs more than you're giving it. Cut it out, it get the point. Feed it little by little it wants more. You're options are, take it back up to 25 or 30 to stop the sickness, then taper a little slower from that point forward, or stop it completely. Seems you're prolonging your sickness by continuing to dose. Not sure how long you're in now, or if you work, but if you don't have to work, I would highly recommend just cutting it off, find a nitch on your couch, and let that all come out. I was at 120 mgs before I lost my job and couldn't afford to go anymore and had to stop immediately. My last dose was November 1st and I have relatively minor symptoms at this point. Hang in there Megan! You can get those liquid handcuffs off and live a normal life. Soulscapex gave some very solid advice on some ways to alleviate some of the symptoms. I'm not sure I want to mention what I did, because it's counter-productive for some, but my willpower has been strong enough to prevent relapse so far. But if it helps, 23 days after final dose of 120mgs of Methadone, I was helping to cook thanksgiving dinner and with a smile on my face.
hi megan....well congrats for starting to get off the methadone....just know all that you go threw will be worth it...I was on 150 for almost 7 yrs and I to had problems around 20 mg...one thing that helped me was a 3 in one vitamin calcium/magnesium zinc....you can get a big bottle at walmart for 6 bucks start taking 4 with breakfast and4 with dinner in a few days you will notice a difference methadone robs your body of these critical minerals and it makes the withdrawal that much worst you almost to the jump off point I recommend 5 as your goal because tapering below that is miserable....just know there is light at the end of the tunnel and where here for you keep posting for support we will walk you threw the whole process
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Hi Megan. I am on day four of no methadone. I went low and slow. Jumped at 1. Ml. Was at 2.5 for months. I am feeling a bit slow but good other than that. I also sleep. This is my first time going low and slow. Usually I jump at a higher dose and have felt bad. Let your body get use to the drop before going down again. IMO
Listen to Soulscape and Gnarly! Im tapering town 5mg per week... only been on Methadone for 6 mos and only got up to 75. Im diwn to 45. No issues. I broke the cycle of buying pills and getting high. Now im sixk of going to a clinic; arent you? There has to be more to life than this. Im considering anti-depressants. The Thomas recipe helped when I tried to get off pills. Good luck ❤️❤️
I think im beginning to have a few chills at 45, but will continue to go down every monday 5mg...i see a counselor privately so someone in that office will prescribe what i need. The worst part is i teach and no one knows about my problem-not even my husband. I was never able to have kids... im going it alone and enjoy this site.
I have taken up horse riding lessons so that gives me something to do.
I ve been on it since may-7 months. I did it because i couldn't afford the pills anymore. Glad i did cause it bbroke the cycle, but hate going to clinic every morning!
My clinic only deals with 5mgs....
Megan, i'll bet u wont have "full blown wds." ... not with a taper. I cant go to na or aa, since i live in a small town and teach everyone/or their kids... thank goodness for this website.
Everyone-ya'll are the best for responding... we need eachother!
Jwproudad..i cant even imagine driving an hour for that little teaspoon of relief.. thats dedication!
Hi Megan.....well I just wanted to check up on you so far so good.....try not to let fear into the equation it will only make your anxiety worst....it always is worst in our heads them it turns out to be...the best thing you can do is try to keep a positive attitude...I have said this a million time but '''you just got to be ok without being ok for a wile''... My taper took 8 1/2 months coming off a 7 yr habit at 150mg....it was a lot faster then the clinic wanted but if they had it there way it would have took almost 2 yrs.....I have helped a lot of people off this drug for the last 6 yrs on this forum....no 2 withdrawals are the same....we have a equation we use it is how long you have been on it... at what dose... and your age.... so for me the cards where stacked ageist me I was on it a long time close to 7years I was on a high dose 150mg and was 47 when I detoxed...my clinic even told me that because of all this I should be a methadone pacent for the rest of my life and trying to quit was a bad idea...I even had to sign a paper that said I was going ageist the doctors recommendation so they where no help at all...as for how your final detox will go....well because your already sick...(so was I) it dident make much of a difference it takes around 10 days to 2 weeks to detox off this drug....my anxiety went threw the roof and sleep as all but impossible even with prescription medication....it is not so much the severity of the withdrawal but the long recovery time that makes this the hardest of all the opiets to detox from....I remember telling my substance abuse counselor....'''I should be doing a hellava lot better for 60 days clean''...it seamed hopeless to me....it took me a good 90 days to even start to get better so you have to be in this for the long haul...it is all about perseverance and resolve in the end....just know you will recover and every thing you go threw is so so worth it when you find recovery...this is 1/3 physical and 2/3 mental....the next critical step is aftercare...I have tryed most.. first the pastor at my church... then a substance abuse counselor... then a addiction therapist....but it was the rooms of N/A that gave me my life back...the program is free...the meetings are only a hour long and it will give you some place to share where the people will understand what your going threw...it is that support that got me threw all of this...today I still go to several meetings a week...the program will give you structure in your life...something most addicts dont have.....it is a simple program that treats the addict that is alive and well in your head long after the drugs stop.....go to meetings get a sponcer and work the 12 steps and with time you will loose the very desire to use....something I thought was impossible..I cannot not speak more highly of a program so google a N/A meeting near you...step out of your comfort zone and go...it is the single best thing you can do for your recovery...just know where hear for you so post and post some more...we have a lot of members who have recovered from this drug so hang in there....there is light at the end of the tunnel..I will pray for you.....>>>>>>>>>>Gnarly<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
hi Megan....how you doing????...how are the withdrawals going??? OOO and the million dollar questing what is your dose???? your getting pritty low so the end is near....have you started the 3 in 1 vitamins yet???...today I just want to encourage you....as tuff has it been you have been able to handle it but I know I grew weary...there was a couple of people that where there on the forum for me when I detox....I found it priceless it is one of the main reasons I became a community leader here on medhelp...that and how we put it in N/A...''you cant keep it unless you give it away'' just know your not alone in this ...let us know what withdrawal symptoms are the most bothersome to you we have a lot of home cures that we can suggest.....the anxiety was one of my worst symptoms like your having....there are a couple of good teas out there one is yogi brand...'''stress relief'' my favorite is ''traditional medicinal's'' sleepy time it not only helps with sleep but it is also good for anxiety just seap 2 bags for 20 min you can get it at walmart for 5 bucks....the trick is finding it there sometimes they got it with the rest of the tea's they cary other time it is in with the vitamins and herbal stuff so you have to look for it this is a must have...now for the general body aches a hot soak in a epsom salt bath will help if you have access to a Jacuzzi use it there ausum....try your best to keep a positive attitude it makes the difference between being uncomfortable or suffering....suffering is a choice.... please post some more details on how things are going....we cant help if we dont know....OOO how old are you....it makes a big difference in detoxing...anyway your going to be in my wife and my Prayers daily....if you believe in God prayer is one of the best weapons ageist this... hang in there the end is so close you can taste it
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Hi Megan....well the ''creepy crawles'' as I call them are ruff but if you have a regular doctor be honest with him and tell him what your doing....ask him for a drug called ''clonadine'' it is a old school blood pressure med that really helps the crawling skin feeling also most people have elevated blood pressure wile detoxing...so 2 good reasons for him to give it to you.....now what your also describing is restless limbs....it is very common most people get it in the legs but I to experienced it in my arms also go to walgreens and pick up a homeopathic bottle of ''highlands restful legs'' it is all natural so you cant take 2 much and it works wounder for restless limbs....again you have to look for it it comes in a really small bottle like 1/2 in round and 2in long you can ask if you dont find it this is a real life saver the restlessness usually gets worst b/4 it gets better so get up there today it is only a couple of bucks so it wont break the bank..as for the anxiety try the teas I recamended just know your going to get threw this keep posting where hear for you
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hi Megan....well a big CONgRATS on your last dose!!!! just know you will be fine....most people dont feel it for a couple of days because of the long 1/2 life of this drug...keep us posted on your symptoms we will try to help...do your best to not let fear in....remember it is always worst in our heads then it turns out to be as for getting threw it....it is all about a positive attitude...soulscapex is a expert in this no mater how lousy he felt he dident complain....and it helped...remember to take a hot soak...it really helps most of the symptoms you may need several a day...try to get a support system working a good friend or family is a huge help...it is ok to pamper yourself wile going threw this force the fluids eat heathy even if your not hungry and try to stay a wake during the day it will help with sleep at night....force yourself to get out of the house for fresh air and exorcise.. walking is good it would also be helpful to try to get to a N/A meeting....the people there will understand what your going threw and there support would be huge just let them know your detoxing off methadone anny way your in my prayers keep posting here Im in phoenix az so when it is 11 pm here it is really late on the east coast I will try to check up on your....YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!
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Hi Megan. How are you this morning. I have been following your posts. You are very courageous and you gave me courage during my jump. Everyone has given solid advice. Take it one day at a time....peace
With the methadone weight gain thing I honestly and this is just my pets
With my weight gain once I started tapering down I started dropping weight like crazy 76 pounds now I'm down and I haven't changed my eating habits and I don't work out. So for me I no my weight gain was the methadone. I do no other people though who say they eat nothing but junk so that probably doesn't help them. I just no that I haven't changed anything except my methadone. I'm still losing a couple pounds a month now and not trying to at all. Lol
hi Megan....well so far so good....I have helped a lot of people off this drug.....for those that where experiencing withdrawal symptoms at the end of there taper....it is usually no worst in your final detox....for me the only thing I notest was my anxiety got a bit worst and it was impossible for me to sleep....I was a lot like you in the withdrawals where full on in the end of my taper...let us know what symptoms are bothering you we have a lot of home cures that can help....no to detoxes are the same so dont read anything into it just go with it as they come.....once you get threw the next 10 days to 2 weeks you can begin healing....you have been doing really great so just keep doing what your doing...dont get frighted by a bad day you will get them...but that is just what it is a bad day it does not represent the rest of your recovery as time goes by you will get a lot more good days....the one thing in common no mater how your detox goes is the ''energy crash''' it in itself can be debilitating...as much as it seams impossible exorcise helps a lot....my wife made sure we walked every day and each day a little farther that and getting fresh air helps...you beat this thing in baby steps and recovery is very suttle it is good to keep a ''recovery log'' that way you can see improvements it really helps on those days where you just want to give up it is great your B/F is supportive but if he is a ''normie'' no mater how he tryes he wont fully understand.....N/A is a hugev help you will have a room full of people that get it and can help please give this a try...it is ok to be scard on your first meeting most people are...all you have to do is just sit a listen ...you will realize your not the only one that thinks the way we do....recovery is possible anyway keep us up to date where here for you
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hi Megan...how you doing today??? you seem to have the right idea about taking it one day one hour one minute at a time.....methadone is very cyclic and the withdrawals come in waves....first your ok then not so much then it is like pulling teeth you just got to go with it and let it run it coarse...how is your anxiety??? and are you sleeping??? those 2 things where tuff for me remember a hot soak in epsom salt will help a lot when your whole body hurts.....just know you got this!!!!! just hang in there your doing great so far keep posting for support
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hi Megan...Im doing fine thanks for asking....so ok today is a bad day....I have said this a million times... but you just got to be ok without being ok for a wile.... just keep telling yourself these feelings are only temporary and better day's are ahead ....I still remember all to much the hell I went threw getting off this drug...try to get bizzy doing something you like to do even if it is just listing to music...get out side and enjoy the fresh air rent some funny moves humor is a great cure right no we need to work on keeping your attitude good you have had a positive attitude right along and that is great now the chips are down and it can be harder....remember it will make the difference of being uncomfortable or suffering suffering is a choice...ok the sleep deal....I ish I had a solution but even perscriton drugs wont hep this problem I thought I was going to go mad....your just going to have to get by on cat naps for the near future....I found a nice hot soak b/4 bed and a cup of traditional madisanal sleepy time tea worked the best you can get it at walmart for 4 bucks just seap 2 bags a full 20 min again all where trying to do here is get you cat naps ...if you believe in God I found prayer to help... a lot of our members pray for you my self included....just know your going to make it no mater how lousy you feel....the end result is so so worth it................YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!!!
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So yesterday was the worst it's been, I feel like death right now... it's horrible. Ready to stop feeling like this definitely.. yesterday I also woke up with bad sore throat I looked at my throats and I have big white puss looking spot on the back of throats and tonsils. Went to doctor didn't come up positive for strep throat so she didn't give me an antibiotic.
hi Megan....just thought I would check up on you....so it sounds like you hit a strong low.....for early recovery it sometimes goes like this so what your experiencing is normal this drug is very cyclic and the withdrawals come in waves..... just when you think you got it beat it comes back with a vengeance just know better days are ahead.... one thing that happens to all of us detoxing is your body's immune system takes a hit and you find your self sick....again it is normal just hang in there in 10 days to 2 weeks you will be over the physical withdrawal....did you try the tea I suggested ??? if not do so it really is a great all natural sleep aid and works for most our members anyway post to let us know how your doing and what symptom's are a problem.....again try your best to keep a positive attitude it is the single best thing you can bring to the table...remember you just got to make it threw today and your symptoms can do a 180 and turn for the good.....hope you get over the throat thing soon keep posting for support where hear for you
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Het Magan.....how you doing today.....please post to keep us up to date.....we cant help if we dont know looking forward to your next post
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It can be done! If you can find a doctors to give you any benzo and clonodine. Take those for three days and watch the magic. Grab some ginseng. Take an empsom salt bath. You can do it!
Hi Megan I just thought I would check up on you.....well your beating this thing one day at a time....at this stage it is all about resolve and perseverance.....I say this often...it is not so much the severity of the withdrawal but rather the duration of time it takes to recover.....as for the kratom it is addictive like Solscapex said so we cant recamend it here on the forum....with that said it does bring some releaf to the symptoms when you just cant take any more.......if it is a choice between going back to the needle or pills it is better then that just use caution and dont use it every day....im glad you got out with your mom it is so critical to get family involved as part of your recovery program just keep in mind if there ''normies'' you will always get that '''deer in the headlight stare....no mater how much they try they just cant get it......this is where programs like A/A or N/A come in....I cant over emphasize how critical aftercare is you need to build a support system b/4 you need it.....when it is 3am and a handful of pills start to look like a good option call someone B/4 you pick up....how is sleep going??? and also are you eating well..no junk food lean proteins like baked chicken or fish no red meat......the body takes time to rebuild right now you have no natural endorphins and you get ''rebound pain'' it is often more painful then the actual discomfort you would feel.....hang in there with time they will start to flow again......anyway please give us a update and if no one has said I love you to you today this addict just did where all here for you
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