Kratom

[finallyIamdone]

Does anyone khave experience with this. I hear it help wd symptoms

[Pjtwenty]

Kratom is just as dangerous as any addictive drug.
I had a bad experience with it abusing it for 16 months after I was on hydros. The withdrawals arejust as bad as ccoming off opiates. For me the depression and anxiety were ten times that of coming off opiates.
Now keep in mind I abused it bad!  But that's what us addicts do right?  

[EvolverU]

Thanks for the update Jean! Good to know.

[JeanJM]

It's not used in New Zealand anymore as I asked about it as well.

[DeliriousNomad68]

Okay, I will have to throw in my .02 cents on this topic.
Kratom WILL alleviate about 70-80% of Withdrawal symptoms. I went on a 3 week period using prescribed Oxycodone and ran out, and used Kratom. I still had the sweats/chills and overall melancholy feeling , and zero energy, but I was able to sleep 8 hours a night and did not have RLS.
HOWEVER, when it came time to stop the Kratom ( after 2 months in my case) , I went into w/D's JUST like w/d'ing from a mild opiate. It wasn't nearly as bad as c/t off of oxy, HOWEVER I did not sleep for 4 nights and had extreme RLS. Also felt depressed and had a terrible headache for about 9 days.
I am now on day 11 clean from everything, and getting back to normal.
Moral of the story? There are no free lunches. Kratom, while not technically an opiate, does come with its own set of w/D's. Not as bad as oxy w/D's  , but no walk in the park either. Beware.

[EvolverU]

It varies a lot in quality. I did a lot of research and talked to some people in the know before I ordered it. You also have to put vinegar or lemon in the tea in order to extract it's alkaloids. Still, it's pretty short acting but it does take care of the energy problems and sleeplessness in a violent early W/d's. That said - you really have to know yourself before you take something like this - even for a short period of time.

[dimethyltryptamine]

It helped me, barely. Not even for an hour.