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just one time or full relaspe?
Ok, so I know the answer BUT...I keep thinking if I can make it a full month with no pills than I can reward myself on a much needed day. I am flying cross country with my kids (1 and 4) without help and keep thinking that the pills would help me get through the rough day and if I went a month without them and only took them this day it would be ok...Is it possible?
I used to only take the pills every now and then so I went years being a user who only did it like twice a month, but my husband started doind it everyday and then I did too. He is getting sober with me...we detoxed together.
I used to only take the pills every now and then so I went years being a user who only did it like twice a month, but my husband started doind it everyday and then I did too. He is getting sober with me...we detoxed together.
Ditto.......like cj's post about dependent verses addiction...once an addict tho u can never just play with them i dont think...not successfully...and playing with fire can get u burned one day...abuse is abuse and u r right about alcohol as i have seen it destroy alot and cause alot of problems...doesnt make it ok just because it is legal tho and there is a price to be paid for abusing alcohol as well...i have watched people detox from alcohol numerous times in the hospital...u dont know about their problem...they come in after a car accident in icu for a couple of days and then BOOM...DTs....not a fun site at all...I dont think alcoholics have it any better than druggies...probably worse as it is more socially acceptable and easier to get and.cheaper too.....yuck! the whole viscious cycle can be nauseating...think i will go have a drink LOL
I had a cpl months completely sober once and went through some w/d's about a year and a half ago. I was using 2-3 oxy 40's or 4-5 roxy 30's at the time. I stopped and got through it fine, I had to start passing drug tests for my parents. At this time I was just learing about addiction and that it could actually be happening to me. This scared me so much that I went back to using after 2 months of being clean. It took so much more to get me to where I wanted to be it is embarassing to say how much I used. I know now that if I am ever to pick up using again I will end up right back where I was and possibly much worse. After quitting to use it only gets better as I am sure you can see at one month. Continuing only gets worse and I think we all know that by now. I hope you treat yourself to something comfortable to wear and think about all that money you will spend if you pick back up...heck you could probably fly first class and be much more comfortable that way with the money you could save by not using.
I'm not recommending it to anyone else by any means. Many can't handle it. For me, it would obviously be "smarter" if I never did it at all, but its something I enjoy and is a good way to bond with friends. Is there some risk involved, I can't say that there's none. But life is short, and I think anything that you enjoy in moderation is a good thing.As long as you can keep it that way. It is normal to enjoy things that can potentially have "bad" effects, look at alcohol or anything really that isn't good for a person, even junk food.
Life is short, so have fun. But be responsible. I believe I have been, and that is why my life is on the right path. By the way, I hope I'm not making it seem like I shoot heroin weekly, that would be a whole different story. I pop a mere 10-15mg of percocet a few times a month. In my opinion, that is much safer, more enjoyable, and also much healthier for your body then going out and getting hammered drunk.
Life is short, so have fun. But be responsible. I believe I have been, and that is why my life is on the right path. By the way, I hope I'm not making it seem like I shoot heroin weekly, that would be a whole different story. I pop a mere 10-15mg of percocet a few times a month. In my opinion, that is much safer, more enjoyable, and also much healthier for your body then going out and getting hammered drunk.
If you have had a dependency problem with drugs why would you ever risk taking them recreationally .? Isn't that kind of like playing Russian roulette with drugs
U must be a very strong person....hopefully if anyone reads this and decides to give this method a try and use occasionally is as strong as u r...i admire your will power...I just would have difficulty encouraging or suggesting this to anyone as many are fresh and just itching for a chance/excuse to use..fine line that can be crossed so easily...be safe
I'd also like to add that you guys overgeneralize way too much. Youre constantly talking and sorrounded by addicts, that you think all use will lead you to a junkie. Many, many people have the sense to realize they were doign too much and make big changes, without entirely removing it from their life. It's a personal choice, I choose when I use. People with no discipline will let the drug control them. In many cases, this is not their fault and they have some sort of pre-dispostion to addiction.
Enough said.
Enough said.
I understand what youre saying Kim, but not everyone that uses recreationally is addicted. I do not have an addictive personality at all, and use no other drugs and drink socially on occasion. What seperates me from a normal occasional recreational user was that I was once physically dependent. For me, as long as I don't "need" it for my body to feel good, then I am perfectly fine without it. I still enjoy the feeling, which is why I use occasionally, but it's by no means somethign I need or even think about often. I would have no problem calling myself an addict if I was, that doesn't phase me. I'm all too smart and all too aware of how these things work and how they creep up on you, which is why I limit my use. Others aren't so smart, or have some sort of a mental addiction.
And worried, I post on this board to give my experiences and help other people. I've gone through withdrawal, I know what it feels like. It also allows me to keep fresh in my mind why I limit my use.
And worried, I post on this board to give my experiences and help other people. I've gone through withdrawal, I know what it feels like. It also allows me to keep fresh in my mind why I limit my use.
I am happy that your life is going so well for you.Congratulations on your upcomming graduation and your new career.Your comments concern me a bit.You say that you still use recreationally around once a week if you refer back to the original post kel said initially that she only used 1 or 2 times a month for years.The thing is thats the way almost all addicts start out.Another thing we all have in common is that initially we all think we have it under control and that we can stop anytime we want to and that what we see these same drugs do to others will never happen to us because it's just not in our character.Please understand I am not saying you're an addict,it's not my place to judge.I'm only saying it worries me to hear someone say those things because thats the same way I used to feel and today I am an addict in recovery.I do respectully disagree with your definition of an addict though.It is not true that an addict is someone who knows the consequences and does it anyway.There are alot of people here who started out being treated for legitimate medical reasons and built up a tolerance to the initial dosage so they were increased or bumped up to something stronger and then for whatever reason discovered when they didn't have or want those pills to get them through the day anymore they found themselves in the throws of addiction.There are a variety of reasons why those of us who are addicts became addicted to our drug of choice but it's not because we knew the consequences and just did it anyway.I take responsibility for my addiction and I claim all the hurt and suffering it has done to my life as well as the lives of my loved ones.I did what I did and I have to face that and try to make immense ,but I never intentionally set out to let my life spiral out of control or cause so much pain to the people in this world I love the most.I never thought it would happen to me. Peace.
Perhaps u were not an addict...or perhaps u r in denial...not sure but that is good that works for u..i dont know many that can do that and use once a week after a true addiction tho...u have alot of good input...but why do u post on an addiction forum if u are not an addict?
For me, the key is just avoiding physical dependency. I was once dependent on opiates, for I don't know, a few months, and realized I was being an idiot. I went cold turkey and swore to myself I wouldn't do it again. For a short period, it was all I could think about. That first week felt like 5 years.
After about 2 weeks, I felt totally normal and was able to do anything. Sometime soon after this, I felt so normal that I used again. Maybe for a day or two, then stopped. nothing changed. I still felt perfectly fine without it and didn't crave it too much. I continue this pattern to this day, of using maybe once a week, and am not addicted.
I do understand the saying once an addict, always an addict. And for this reason, I recommend not even using occasionally. But in my case, I'm not sure if I ever really was an addict. I'm not in self-denial, and would have no problem admitting if I once was, as I certainly am not now.
I think in my case, physical dependency fueled my addiction. What caused this physical dependency in the first place might better be explained as stupidity then actual addiction. I just didn't realize what I was getting myself into by doing it everyday. I think an addict is someone who knows the consequences and still does it anyway. Once I realized what I was doing, I put an end to it.
I still use recreationally about once a week, and am about to graduate college in a week, and have accepted a job on Wall Street. It all depends on the person.
After about 2 weeks, I felt totally normal and was able to do anything. Sometime soon after this, I felt so normal that I used again. Maybe for a day or two, then stopped. nothing changed. I still felt perfectly fine without it and didn't crave it too much. I continue this pattern to this day, of using maybe once a week, and am not addicted.
I do understand the saying once an addict, always an addict. And for this reason, I recommend not even using occasionally. But in my case, I'm not sure if I ever really was an addict. I'm not in self-denial, and would have no problem admitting if I once was, as I certainly am not now.
I think in my case, physical dependency fueled my addiction. What caused this physical dependency in the first place might better be explained as stupidity then actual addiction. I just didn't realize what I was getting myself into by doing it everyday. I think an addict is someone who knows the consequences and still does it anyway. Once I realized what I was doing, I put an end to it.
I still use recreationally about once a week, and am about to graduate college in a week, and have accepted a job on Wall Street. It all depends on the person.
Hey,
sometimes we just take on more than we can handle. They is probably what got me taking the stupid pills for everything.
If this is not possible to do without the help of drugs, then simply don't do it. I'm sure you know now that occasional help from some drugs is NOT an option anymore. right??
sometimes we just take on more than we can handle. They is probably what got me taking the stupid pills for everything.
If this is not possible to do without the help of drugs, then simply don't do it. I'm sure you know now that occasional help from some drugs is NOT an option anymore. right??
thank you all so much. I really needed that and I think this site which I just discovered. Please keep telling me because I am nowhere near the point of being strong enough. I keep wanting to go abck to the days of just taking the pills every now and then eventhough deep down I know it is not possible. I certainly do not want to go through the withdrawl again.
Trust me when I say there is no uch thing as every once in awhile. That is how I get addicted to everything. This is my 5 drug I have had to get sober from. The best thing you can do is get rid of all the pills and keep yourself busy so you don'tthink about them. Just keep your kids in mind like we have been talking about. You can do this I have faith in you and so do your kids even if you don't realize they do. You are their hero and ther mother and if they could understand what was going on they would be cheering you on in your recovery. Make it a mother's day gift to yourself and to them to STAY sober. I will be here struggling with you so we can even do it together!!! Godd Luck
I think we have all had this thought at one time or another. And we have all found out that, once an addict, always an addict.
Don't undo your accomplishment. Trust me, it won't end up being a reward.
Don't undo your accomplishment. Trust me, it won't end up being a reward.
Ditto.
Part of the process of staying clean is to learn how to cope with all challenges of life, without a crutch, those demon pills.
Please do NOT ever touch one again!
Friend999
Part of the process of staying clean is to learn how to cope with all challenges of life, without a crutch, those demon pills.
Please do NOT ever touch one again!
Friend999
LOL no it is not ok. Your mind is trying to tell you it is. You are trying to justify it because you have been clean a month. Trust me, one will only lead you back to where you were and worse TRUST ME. Ask anyone here they will tell you the same thing. Don't do it you have worked so hard to have one month. Congrats on the one month,please don't blow it now.
You answered your only question. If you want to reward yorself, there are plenty of ways. I just bought myself a new Coach tote!! I justified it as a get well for a sprained toe, getting married next week and being clean for 106 days....
I couldn't agree more. I too had a month clean about 6 months ago (actually I think it was on Day 29) before I thought I would just take 3 or 4 to get me through something I too found challenging.
I was back to 20/day in a matter of a week. It just doesn't work that way, unfortunatley.
Plus, it's just not fair to your husband. Keep strong together. Your trip will not be as bad as you think... espeically if you are clean.
I was back to 20/day in a matter of a week. It just doesn't work that way, unfortunatley.
Plus, it's just not fair to your husband. Keep strong together. Your trip will not be as bad as you think... espeically if you are clean.
1 time=full addiction in NO time! ! month isn't a long time to be clean. Your body isn't normal yet and as far as pills go. Your bodie's chemistry has been changed now. I don't believe it ever returns to normal, so if you start up again....You lose.
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