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Signs of abuse or use
Please someone tell me what the physical signs of opiate abuse or use is? I really need to know! I am going crazy trying to figure it out myself!
I have seen so many signs, but want to hear from others to see if what I believe is true.
thanks!
I have seen so many signs, but want to hear from others to see if what I believe is true.
thanks!
My friends have been telling me for a long time to let it go, logically I know that is what I have to do, it's my heart that needs to listen.
Just found out that yet another person, in this small, small town I live in has died of an overdose, tragic. When I hear things like this, it brings floods of many emotions, I get sad,,, fearful, and then angry all of these directed at him. I feel like I am alone. When I told his mother, she acted interested and concerned for a min, then now believes I am the one on drugs, I believe this is because I am so stupidly emotional about the whole thing. His family all have issues with drugs, his father was and still is addicted to pain pills, I never knew this, his mother acts as if she is going to take his kids away , but then offers him some of her pain pills if he mentions that he has any "backpain". I just don't get it????
I am an outsider to this clannish family, and always will be, I did not grow up in this town, and his family is almost "too close" with each other. They see the same things I see just not as much, but yet they turn a blind eye to it, and then turn on me. They think I am the devil because I do not keep my mouth shut.
I wish there was some way that the police or authorities would find out about his usage, and then I truly believe he would get help. But, if I were the one to "alert" them, my life would be a true living hell, I would get his entire family's anger directed at me, regardless if it would help him, they are the type that would destroy my property, hurt me physically, and try to get my career ruined. I know what you are thinking...."why am I bothering with this and wasting my time and attention on him?"
That is what I am trying to understand and figure out myself. When he first accused me of being on "dope", I was so desperate to show him and others if needed, that I was not the one on drugs, so I had a hair analysis done and a 12 week urine test, I paid alot of money to have this done, and for what??? I am still sitting here worrying my life away, angry all the time.
Today will be the second day of me not contacting him, there has been no communication between us, I am trying to disconnect, to force myself to be away from him. How hard it is.......forcing your self to stop loving and let go.
I do have a question though....I noticed that when his behavior started getting weird, he started drinking beer after work, every day, 3-4 beers. He never did this before, in fact he used to years ago put his dad down for doing the same thing? And when he started doing that, those 3-4 beers would make him "drunk", which to him 3-4 beers would make him buzzed, but not the "tripping on his feet", giggly way it made him now? What is the connection with using and the beer??? I have not figured that one out?? Is it used as a "ruse" for the drugged behavior? Like , " I stumbled because I have had a few beers" thing? Or is it something else?
Just found out that yet another person, in this small, small town I live in has died of an overdose, tragic. When I hear things like this, it brings floods of many emotions, I get sad,,, fearful, and then angry all of these directed at him. I feel like I am alone. When I told his mother, she acted interested and concerned for a min, then now believes I am the one on drugs, I believe this is because I am so stupidly emotional about the whole thing. His family all have issues with drugs, his father was and still is addicted to pain pills, I never knew this, his mother acts as if she is going to take his kids away , but then offers him some of her pain pills if he mentions that he has any "backpain". I just don't get it????
I am an outsider to this clannish family, and always will be, I did not grow up in this town, and his family is almost "too close" with each other. They see the same things I see just not as much, but yet they turn a blind eye to it, and then turn on me. They think I am the devil because I do not keep my mouth shut.
I wish there was some way that the police or authorities would find out about his usage, and then I truly believe he would get help. But, if I were the one to "alert" them, my life would be a true living hell, I would get his entire family's anger directed at me, regardless if it would help him, they are the type that would destroy my property, hurt me physically, and try to get my career ruined. I know what you are thinking...."why am I bothering with this and wasting my time and attention on him?"
That is what I am trying to understand and figure out myself. When he first accused me of being on "dope", I was so desperate to show him and others if needed, that I was not the one on drugs, so I had a hair analysis done and a 12 week urine test, I paid alot of money to have this done, and for what??? I am still sitting here worrying my life away, angry all the time.
Today will be the second day of me not contacting him, there has been no communication between us, I am trying to disconnect, to force myself to be away from him. How hard it is.......forcing your self to stop loving and let go.
I do have a question though....I noticed that when his behavior started getting weird, he started drinking beer after work, every day, 3-4 beers. He never did this before, in fact he used to years ago put his dad down for doing the same thing? And when he started doing that, those 3-4 beers would make him "drunk", which to him 3-4 beers would make him buzzed, but not the "tripping on his feet", giggly way it made him now? What is the connection with using and the beer??? I have not figured that one out?? Is it used as a "ruse" for the drugged behavior? Like , " I stumbled because I have had a few beers" thing? Or is it something else?
You can only disconnect over time, you never stop caring.. You need to Embrace your Life, and your true Friends and Family. Reach out to these people, and with their love and help, and of course father time passing bye, all things will work out! May god bless You! Never lose your Faith......
Thank you all for your comments and advice. I sit here absolutley devastated, realizing I have lost the man I fell in love with almost 10yrs ago, and there is nothing I can do. All my hopes and dreams, the shared goals that I have been desperately trying to get back are gone. I was really hoping that someone would tell me that what I know in my heart was not true, and that maybe I was wrong to believe this about him.
I really do not know what to think or do now, I mean I know I will go on living, but what about him? My fear is that he won't , that he will overdo it someday and there is nothing I can do to stop it. I feel helpless , so helpless. How do I live with knowing what I know about him, and not care????? How do I disconnect ???
I really do not know what to think or do now, I mean I know I will go on living, but what about him? My fear is that he won't , that he will overdo it someday and there is nothing I can do to stop it. I feel helpless , so helpless. How do I live with knowing what I know about him, and not care????? How do I disconnect ???
The bottom line is that they are the ones that have to choose and want to quit if they are to ever change. So if you think it will get better it won't unless they are 110% committed to getting clean. I think you are wise to move out. That life whether meth or heroin is not a good one.
i think you maybe be dealing with crystal meth. does he moves hin mouth from side to side? google crystal meth. and you will find info on it. but the baggie with the yellow oild substance sould very well be that. i am thinking that heroin is a darker more brownish substance. the meth also smell kind of acidic. it actually had battery acid and amonous fertilizer in it. it also causes crazy mood swings. good luck i hope you find the info you are looking for.
Wow. What you just described is exactly the same types of behaviors my daughter and son in law were having. They were pill abusers and went on to heroin. it was when they went over to heroin that all thes signs you describe really became apparent.
After time, they need the heroin to just "be normal" and if they don't have it they will begin to get twitchy, sniffling and extreemly argumentative because they are starting to not feel good and they really don't like to hurt.
Yes, you hit the nail on the head by realizing that he accused you of being "on dope" because they also have to take the attention aff of them. My daughter did everything to draw attention away from the drug use. The only thing you didn't mention was lying.... habitual lying about nearly everything.
Please take care of yourself and you did the right thing by leaving. I also feel you are doing the right thing by keeping an eye out for his kids. Hopefully if you can talk to him gently and just say that you understand where he is at, without mentioning drugs, and say you are willing to help him do what he needs to do - infer rehab if possible, and you will be there for the kids when he is ready to do it.
Good luck and my heart goes out to you.
After time, they need the heroin to just "be normal" and if they don't have it they will begin to get twitchy, sniffling and extreemly argumentative because they are starting to not feel good and they really don't like to hurt.
Yes, you hit the nail on the head by realizing that he accused you of being "on dope" because they also have to take the attention aff of them. My daughter did everything to draw attention away from the drug use. The only thing you didn't mention was lying.... habitual lying about nearly everything.
Please take care of yourself and you did the right thing by leaving. I also feel you are doing the right thing by keeping an eye out for his kids. Hopefully if you can talk to him gently and just say that you understand where he is at, without mentioning drugs, and say you are willing to help him do what he needs to do - infer rehab if possible, and you will be there for the kids when he is ready to do it.
Good luck and my heart goes out to you.
Thank you for your information, I have seen the sneezing, runny nose, flushed face, and restlesness, although not so much of that now. In the beginning (2 yrs ago) I noticed a huge difference in my boyfriend of 8 yrs, he started acting weird, I guess my "antennae" went up when he started working with an "ex" durg dealer at his electricians job and he would have slurred speech at 930a in the morning and say that he was not feeling well, havving a "sour stomach" on the jobsite when I would talk to him on the phone. Then in the evening he would have an upset stomach, and not be hungry, at first I thought it was strange because he always had to eat, he is a little guy to begin with, then he suddenly did not have an appetite?? then his mood was strange, I dubbed it his "sunshine and roses" state, nothing was wrong, all was good, nothing seem to bother him. He would talk out loud to you without ever having a conversation with you??? Almost as if he had the conversation in his head and then said a word or two outloud from this conversation. He would say weird stuff out of context, and his eyes would roll back in his head???!!! Then I started researching this, because I am 43yrs old and i have teens so I thought something was up. At the same time I found a empty baggy with an oily , yellowish film like substance in it, it smelled bitter and yet sweet. Not sure exactly what it was , but after asking around I concluded it was heroin, I confronted, it did not go well at all, I moved out and have not moved back in, it scared me to death!! I am still in his life, and constantly worry , but he now accuses me of being on drugs instead or in his words "on dope". I believe this is a defense tactic on his part, because he has full and sole custody of his minor children and does not want anything to interfere. Now this is what I see on a daily basis everyday at the same time period:
1) I talk to him in the mornig, voice sounds normal, mood normal.
2) talk to him in the afternoon: 3p-4pm, voice has a singsong tone to it, like someone overly trying to convince you they are happy?? Almost like his "sunshine and roses" state the year before but in a more controlled way.
3) I see him at 5-7p, his face is very red, eyes bloodshot, pupils always small, very small at times.
4) 8-9p he goes to the bathroom usually around 830p, no matter where we are at, ball games, restuarants, home , anywhere. But right before he goes usually about 20-30mins before hand, his nose is runny, his eyes are runny, he can not sit still , "says his back hurts", and his mood is somber.
5) 9-10p, he is moving his head around like you would crack your neck , in a circle, but real slow with his eyes closed. He looks like he is asleep, but his feet and legs twitch and he can be awake in a min. if he needs to be.
A year ago when I confronted him, there were obvious changes in him to me, the moods , the going to bathroom and sniffing once or twice, and flushing the toilet immediately after the sniffs,(yes i listened at the door) then having a sudden sleepiness, the baggies with the "residue" in them were all signs of heroin or so I thought.
Now, the sniffing is not there, nor is the talking out of context, the "extreme" happiness episodes, and all the obivious signs. To me, and someone please tell me if I am wrong, I think he is on pills now, because I went as far as telling his mother of what I thought and of what I found, with the heroin, that he does not want to be caught with that, plus, I called that "buddy" of his the ex-dealer of heroin, and told him to stay away from my boyfriend and if he did not I would make his life a living hell, well since then , the dealer up and quit and omoved out state.
I guess bottom line : I need to know is it possible to go from heroin and downgrade? to pills? Or has he devolped a tolerance to the heroin and is able to function somewhat normally now?
Not sure what I should do or if I should just walk away completely??? I mean when I touch on the subject of his moods, that is when he calls me a no good junkie, and accuses me of doing drugs behind his back possibly for years and years, is this normal??? Is this behaviour of someone who is taking opiates? God I wish I knew one way or the other!!!
anyone have any advice??????????
1) I talk to him in the mornig, voice sounds normal, mood normal.
2) talk to him in the afternoon: 3p-4pm, voice has a singsong tone to it, like someone overly trying to convince you they are happy?? Almost like his "sunshine and roses" state the year before but in a more controlled way.
3) I see him at 5-7p, his face is very red, eyes bloodshot, pupils always small, very small at times.
4) 8-9p he goes to the bathroom usually around 830p, no matter where we are at, ball games, restuarants, home , anywhere. But right before he goes usually about 20-30mins before hand, his nose is runny, his eyes are runny, he can not sit still , "says his back hurts", and his mood is somber.
5) 9-10p, he is moving his head around like you would crack your neck , in a circle, but real slow with his eyes closed. He looks like he is asleep, but his feet and legs twitch and he can be awake in a min. if he needs to be.
A year ago when I confronted him, there were obvious changes in him to me, the moods , the going to bathroom and sniffing once or twice, and flushing the toilet immediately after the sniffs,(yes i listened at the door) then having a sudden sleepiness, the baggies with the "residue" in them were all signs of heroin or so I thought.
Now, the sniffing is not there, nor is the talking out of context, the "extreme" happiness episodes, and all the obivious signs. To me, and someone please tell me if I am wrong, I think he is on pills now, because I went as far as telling his mother of what I thought and of what I found, with the heroin, that he does not want to be caught with that, plus, I called that "buddy" of his the ex-dealer of heroin, and told him to stay away from my boyfriend and if he did not I would make his life a living hell, well since then , the dealer up and quit and omoved out state.
I guess bottom line : I need to know is it possible to go from heroin and downgrade? to pills? Or has he devolped a tolerance to the heroin and is able to function somewhat normally now?
Not sure what I should do or if I should just walk away completely??? I mean when I touch on the subject of his moods, that is when he calls me a no good junkie, and accuses me of doing drugs behind his back possibly for years and years, is this normal??? Is this behaviour of someone who is taking opiates? God I wish I knew one way or the other!!!
anyone have any advice??????????
Also for me the feeling that I needed it to accomplish every day tasks....it made me have a lot of energy and I felt like Super-woman.
As for the physical signs when you do not have it sneezing, restless, not being able to sleep, the heebie jeebies, all around not feeling well. Their is more but that is the jest of it Limbo
Chasing the high, thinking about it all the time, doing things that you would not normally not do to get it, putting it before other things or people that are important to you, not being able to have a good time like you once did with out it are a few. Hope I could answer your question a little Limbo
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