Starting Suboxone

[ufindme2008]

I started Sub treatment this past Friday.  I was given directions on how to begin the treatment by my Dr.  I found that after taking the first 8mgs that I couldnt take anymore that evening.  They wanted me to get 3 pills in that first day but I was/am getting to high off just 8 mgs and so I cant take anymore than this without feeling like Ive been given a shot of demero/morphinel.  After taking just a half pill (4mgs) I feel like I did when Ive had surgeries, lying in the hospital and receiving pain shots.  Also, just like when taking my DOC (vics) I couldnt urinate real well, Im experiencing this on the Sub.  Yes, the good thing is that Im not experiencing any W/D from the vics but I dont feel right on this either.  I am going to call the Dr. tomorrow but I was wondering if anyone has gone through an experience like this when starting Sub?  I thought you werent suppose to feel high.  I feel high and somewhat shakey as well.  Is this just the side effects of starting Sub till it gets in your system?  Im not sure what to think.

Thanks,

Ellen

[avisg]

Ellen,
make sure you let the doctor know you are retaining water and having trouble urinating OK just to be safe.

[ufindme2008]

Thank you worried878.  That makes perfect since to me.  It was just that the Dr and pharmasist were pushing me to take at least 16mgs a day for it to work, but if I did that I feel Id be overdosing.  I will take very very small does twice a day from here on out. 1 mg, during day and 1mg at night.  Ive only been on it for 3 days now so it hasnt had too long of a time to build up in my system.  Ill call my Dr. tomorrow and tell him what Im doing.  I dont care if he likes it or not.  Plus, I want to be clean, not high.  Id really only like to take 1-2 mgs at night before bed because they make me tired, dizzy and hight (not my choice of high either), but the pharmasist I spoke to said theyd rather have me take them through the day.  Why???  What does it matter. Ill take the jolt, and pass the high. 1 mg sounds like all Id need.  Heck, Im even retaining water like I did when I was abusing 15-18 vics a day.  Pluse I cant urinate correctly.  It sounds to me like Im receiving the full narcotic effect from Sub.  Its suppose to block that part, as so I thought.  Well, Im rambling on here.  Thanks for the imput.

Ellen

[worried878]

does sound like she is at too high of a dose of sub as hydro is a weaker narcotic in the scheme of things...and as far as "getting used to the dose"    seems like that would be good for some who planned to use it long term for mainteneance..but if to be used short term to avoid wd i wouldnt see the point of being on a high dose and "getting used to it"  i do agree that some need sub to get clean and others may be digging a deeper hole with a stronger narcotic than they were on in the first place...i used sub when i was out of pills several times in the past..i was a hydro user..80-100 mgs a day for 4 years...2 mgs would give me a jolt everytime...1 mg in the am and 1 mg in the afternoon was enough to keep wds away and 2 mgs was enuf to give me a buzz...light weight i guess...but why use more than u need and "get used to it"   I never have seen the point of that

[GA Guy]

Personally, jumping at even 1mg a day is too much. I jumped at .5mg every other day and had very little withdrawals. The only major wd symptom was moderate anxiety. I am not unresponsive to people saying Suboxone withdrawals were bad. I know they are for most people. I just want people to take what they read about on the internet with a grain of salt. It's just like getting a bad meal at a restaurant. The first reaction is to shout to the rooftops how bad the food was. But, when you get a decent or good meal, you're just satisfied and may recommend it to a couple people. People's bad side effects with drugs (and, this is all drugs, not just Suboxone) is just like the bad restaurant. Your first reaction is to get online and tell everyone that will read it how much it screwed up their lives (and it very well may have...all drugs have their  casualties). The problem is that people never seem to make a point of posting good experiences with a drug they've taken. Why? They're too busy living life and going forward. Please, take your time tapering down, cut the Sub into slivers with a razor balde if you must. Slow and steady wins the race.

[hrsebz]

I have been clean from sub now for ten months I w/ded off 2mgs(because im a *******) and it was pure hell but my girlfriend who went on it with me did a slow taper and had vary minimal w/d symptoms I have not had any cravings for the vics since I got on the sub and am vary thankful for that....I would talk to you dr about doing a short taper insteed of maint.The sub made me high the whole time i was on it,so dont worrie thats normal.good luck

[triplej321]

I started at 16mg a day and several months later igot down to .5 am then .5pm and then i jumped.

I really thought i was ready to stop and it was a rough experience. Some people have done very well stopping sub. Its very expensive and it dd help me beat a 8yr Hydro addiction so im very thankful. Im still trying to understand why my body reacted teh way it did.
I went back to the sub dr and he put me back on 4mg am and 4mg pm and im doiing just fine. I didnt immediate take what he wanted me to since i was down to .5mg. I find some days are better than others. What im starting to see is my brain is becoming dependant on sub, which i dont like. the trick of the whole recovery thing is to stay busy. I noticed in the summer time when i started sub i was always busy and even forgot some days to take the medication. Now with it being winter, i got to much free time on my hands. so needless to say im ready for spring so i can move forward.
good luck all