Suboxone Help

[goldenarm]

This *****, Im in Pain and DR says t go back on meds.Im on Suboxone now for 3 weeks.Im down to 1 a day for 4 days now in 1/4s. My back is hurting. He says 24 to 36 Hrs after my last dose of Sub before i take any Pain Meds.Anyone that knows about this please reply.Thanks

[cattalina]

I always felt better when I was doing heroin.  It helped calm my anxiety and at the same time gave me enough energy to do whatever I needed to do.  I loved how I felt when I was on it - I'd never felt better about myself or felt more alive.  But then my personality started to change, my priorities changed, and slowly I started needing more and more to have that calming effect.  Eventually the drug turned on me, and it made me a different person - mean, angry, resentful, apathatic.  I no longer felt better on the drug, I felt dead - but I couldn't stop.  Not only out of fear of wd, but out of fear for what/who I would be without it, even though I didn't like who I had become on it. It had become a part of my identity, I was a heroin addict - nothing more.  It will happen to you eventually, it's inevitable.  You may not ever be homeless, or unemployed or even broke.  But you won't know who you are, what you want, or what's best for you.  Suboxone may not be a medication that works for you, it is not for everybody, but that doesn't mean it's in your best interest to go back to the pain pills.  No-one ever plans to become an addict, or to be in a crappy situation...  stuff like that just happens and it's out of our control.  What is in our control is how we handle those situations.  Your life may suck right now, but it won't always be that way as long as you stay off the pain pills.  You will have this addiction for the rest of your life, and most likely some type of pain...  Explore other routes of handling the pain - narcotic medication isn't the only option.  There are many people on this forum who have severe debilitating pain and have found a way to cope without narcotics.  Like ochooked said - pain meds give you an "artificial reality" and that's not a way to live.  You have to be willing to try other things, and take charge of this situation instead of just giving up and giving in.  You said you went 10 years without a drug or a drink, it's possible to be there again but only if you're willing to try.  I hope that you consider the things you've heard today, and make an attempt to find a better solution.  Keep in touch with your decisions and progress.

[worried878]

I am not sure I wouold go to the suboxone website for info as it will all be positive as a rule...they are trying to sell their drug....they do list some negative side effects but are not gonna go into any gory details as it would hurt their sales...cattalina is right/dont go there for info...asking people who have used it is ur best bet...as for using on suboxone...small amounts will be blocked and u wont feel any effect from the narcotic u take/so pointless...large amounts could send u into withdrawals so i would not chance it and wait out the time ur doctor reccommends...subutex does not have naloxone,,,but using narcotics on subutex increases chances of overdose and u do not even feel high...the subutex will still occupy most of the receptor sites so the other narcotic can not take effect..dangerous game

I am sorry you have to go back to the pain pills...be safe

[ochooked]

Welcome to real life - -- I know the pain you are in and most of the dependent and addicted people on this site are there as well. - - -I know I am.  What the kind folks who posted above me are trying to get you to see is that you are probably jumping out of the pan and into the fire ---  You are giving us all the reasons you want or need to take the drugs and we sort of chuckle because we have all used this same logic and justification.   It means that you will function well on the drugs for awhile and then realize (too late) that everything is filtered through drugs - you will have no real emotions - no real feelings, no pain for sure - but it is an artificial reality  ----- hey, don't jump on my for saying this I am just a recovering addict who also is looking for the answsers.   Best of luck to you as you try to decide - -- ochooked

[goldenarm]

Truth be told they have a real calming effect as well.What i do is stressful and if i being 100% honest i like how i feel on them better.At least at this point.I have no energy on these Subs,im depressed,worried, dont feel that great, and i know i could probly take more of them and it might make a bit of a difference but in the long run i still have the pain and the addiction,whats the point ,i might as well benifiet all the way around instead of just not experencing withdrawl.and take the oxys.Or just stay miserable,Life is a ***** right now.Im 51 and never did  i plan for it to end up like this.I went almost 10 yrs without a drink or a drug and heres where im at ...

[cattalina]

You're right, sometimes life is a ***** - and the right thing to do is always the hardest.  If you feel like your only option is to go back on pain meds, by all means, do so.  Just know that it will get to the point where it interferes with your life.  Being in chronic pain is awful, I agree with that 100%.  But if you hate feeling wds, getting back on the narcotic pain pills isn't the answer.  Once you have a physical dependency on pain meds it means you will go through wds at one point or another.  I hope that you consider trying other avenues first before marrying the pain pills again.  Good luck and if there's anything I can do to help..  

[goldenarm]

My back pain went away and i wanted off the meds,i just dont want to be dependent on anything.I actually like how i feel on them for the most part.Now i cant stand being in pain and hate withdrawl.Ive got myself in a catch 22 situation and im trying to manage everything as it comes up.I have a good job,ive managed to buy a house,boat ,thru alot of yrs of hard work .I would love to be off everything,..Sometimes life is a *****..