Tramadol to suboxone questions

[Tramprisoner]

I have decided to stop taking the tramadol i had a reality check 2 days ago and it was my rock bottom.  I take about 20 50mg pills a day. I will have a full script on the 24th of 180 so I was wondering is there a way to taper with just those? Otherwise I have an appointment with a doctor tomorrow to discuss a suboxone taper program to get off the tramadol. I have taken subs before for a short 10 day taper 2 yrs ago in a detox facility to get off oxy's and benzo's and it worked with very little withdrawl symptoms. I had a year and some change clean time then my doctor suggested tramadol for my ruptured discs assuring me it was a non narcotic. In my state it was just listed as a narcotic in January I think. So I was already addicted.  Any advice would be great. The people who posted comments in my other posts told me to post a new question so I could get advice on the subject.

[adexec181]

Now backing over them in a car is an interesting option!!  In the height of my addiction, would have been picking or sweeping up the pieces from the driveway!  What a sight that would been for the neighbors!
I actually took the 550 count blister pack capsules that arrived during my first week of ct wd (and Iused to relish those arrivals, spending an hour or so popping them out of their blister packs, counting them all, putting in ziplock bags, and be amazed at how many there were, and how relieved I was for awile that i dod not to have to worry about when the next shipment would come), and put them in a used crouton package, drove to Speedway and dumped them in a pulic trash can by the gas pumps!! Knew I'd never do public dumpster diving...would be too obvious.  The tablets I just flushed!

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[killerzoey]

Yeah, the 180 qty is what I always ordered online. Due to delays (and over-ordering due to panic over delays) I had 3 orders for 180 come in after I already quit. Just make the package go away if you can taper without. You can refuse it, let the post office send it back, you can accidentally back over it with your car... Lots of possibilities.

Tramadol is such a crappy drug.

[FourJays]

Please, please, please if you really want to get these pills out of your life forever, listen to what these members are telling you.  If you keep the extra pills around you WILL give in - the pull is just too strong.  If you don't have them, you cant take them.  I know it is so scary but ending up in a criminal situation is much scarier!  Think about your kids - they need a mom; a sober Mom.  Trust me - you have a lot to lose.  You CAN do this and get a normal, healthy life back.  Please dump the extra pills and just get the w/d over with.  It is NOT that bad.  Many of us have done it and will be here to help you get through it; we wont let you down.  Good luck . . . . keep us posted.

[adexec181]

My guess is tat the new Rx for 180 pills is coming from n online order through FedEx and nit a legit doc...correct Tramprisoner?  At least by the sound of how you're describing things...it sound much like what I used to do....know te exact dat that the next monthly FedEx delivery was going to be made.  If this is the case Tramprisoner, you need to absolutely get rid of this  completely or you will just sabotage your efforts.  I got a huge overseas shipment of 500 100mg capsules on day 7 of my ct WD and then another 180 of my monthly FedEx shipment the next day.  I pitched/flushed the whole works right away, in a moment when I felt strong because I knew if I had them around anywhere, I'd end up taking just 1or 2 to take the edge off....and we all know how that goes.  And I was dead right to do it...there have been times when I've been weak and miserable and would have taken 1 (which invariably would have led to another and another....), but having gotten rid if them, I had no choice but to power through.  And an hour or two, or even the next day, was so glad I did!  If I can do it, you can too..so take charge of the situation and dump the pills except what you really need to taper.  Don't set yourself up to fail if you really want to get your life back!!

[nursegirl6572]

I'm confused.  You're obviously getting the tramadol from two docs?  You just had the 50 filled (that you altered), and now you're saying you will get another script for 180 on Sat/Sun?  Is that correct?  Two doctors?

If so, I would tread VERY carefully here, as that is doctor shopping and also a crime, which, considering what happened with the script altering...may not be in your best interest to get that script.

If anyone IS considering any kind of legal action....that would only worsen your problems.  I too would try to get the help of a doctor, if possible...to help guide you with a taper.  Tapers aren't for everyone, as it takes a lot of self control.

Good luck!  Great decision to stop the madness!

[YesLife4Me]

I don't think all Dr's are very educated on what Trams really do to a person.   The good ones know that, but not all of them do.  My Dr is fully aware of it, so he prescribed them sparingly.   He had it to where I wasn't supposed to take more than 2 a day so that I couldn't refill too soon.   But that didn't matter to me, I would take 12 of them in a day (4 of them 3x daily) to get me by until I could my drug of choice, Norco.   2 of them did hardly anything.  Took away some of the withdraw symptoms, but not all.   If I ran out of those and didn't have my Norco's, the withdraw from them was worse than the opiates.  It was much harsher.   I wouldn't take the suboxone for the tram.  Like it was said, it is like substituting a glock for a flyswatter.   You are better off to keep on your taper plan.