Tramadol to suboxone questions

[Tramprisoner]

I have decided to stop taking the tramadol i had a reality check 2 days ago and it was my rock bottom.  I take about 20 50mg pills a day. I will have a full script on the 24th of 180 so I was wondering is there a way to taper with just those? Otherwise I have an appointment with a doctor tomorrow to discuss a suboxone taper program to get off the tramadol. I have taken subs before for a short 10 day taper 2 yrs ago in a detox facility to get off oxy's and benzo's and it worked with very little withdrawl symptoms. I had a year and some change clean time then my doctor suggested tramadol for my ruptured discs assuring me it was a non narcotic. In my state it was just listed as a narcotic in January I think. So I was already addicted.  Any advice would be great. The people who posted comments in my other posts told me to post a new question so I could get advice on the subject.

[FourJays]

You are Awesome!  You know there will likely be a little increase in the w/d when you jump completely off - but they are temporary and you can do this.  If/when it does get bad just think of how free you will now be off these evil pills.  And think about how close you came to risking everything - for a piece of s**t pill that does NOTHING but take and take and take . . . until you have nothing.  Now instead you can concentrate on much better days to come - clean and healthy days!  I am SO proud of you!!!  Hang in there girl and remember - every day will get better.  We can talk about emotional issues and aftercare (all VERY important) later; just get through the weekend and start feeling better.
Julie

[Tramprisoner]

Yes I did call the pharmacy and told them I did not want to get the refill and explained to them I wasn't aware how bad the drug had effect on me and i no longer want to take it and to please cancel the refill on the 24th. She said she put a note in the account to not refill it even upon request so that is done. Ill just go ahead and flush the lortabs because your right its just trading tramadol for a stronger opiete. Tomorrow I am going to try and just stop the tramadol all together. I mean I'm down to 2 a day might as well jump!

[FourJays]

Hey - it sounds like you are doing well (considering).  Did you end up cancelling that extra 180 script you had coming?  I'm wondering, since you tapered down to such a small amount so quick???  You are doing well though, glad to hear you have the Clonodine - they is probably helping a lot.  I did not have that in my detox (didn't taper, just c/t'd from 40 to zero in about 48 hours - because I was forced to basically).  But I have heard really good things about it.  A couple things; first - I would not take the Lortabs if I were you.  I mean, that is just another opiate, right?  If anything they will just delay the inevitable.  Second - yes, your body could be taking it better that some and it could be due to many reasons.  The Clonodine is likely helping, and also, you are not on any benzo this time right?  Those present a lot of bad w/d symptoms that you wont have to deal with this time.  Hey - I wouldn't question it - take it as a good sign - of even more good to come.  BUT - I would expect your discomfort level to increase once you are completely off the Trams (after they are through your system).  But even so, it sounds like you are doing great - and its SO good to hear that you told your hubby!  And it sounds like he took it ok.  Now, he knows to expect you to not feel so great for the next few days.  Sounds like your "stage is set" to get this thing done . . . . "just do it" as they say.  You have all the tools and support of your spouse.  PERFECT timing to get this over with.  Just please make sure you get rid of any extra pills (incuding the Lortab).  You CAN do this . . . . by next week the worst of the physical crapola will be over.  Good luck and keep posting your progress.  You are doing great :))

[Tramprisoner]

Well I unno what happened to my post yesterday but basically here is how it went. For those who don't wanna read throughout the entire thing as of Sunday I was taking anywhere from 20-25 50mg pills a day some days more but usually that amount. Monday I saw Dr #2 well I stupidly altered the script by the pure grace of God nothing happened the pharmacist called the dr confirmed the right amount and then he asked me if I changed it and I said no. He filled the right amount and sent me on my way. This was and still is astonishing to a lot of people I have told on here. The doctor has been my primary doctor since I was 15 along with my husband and his entire family. Any ways after everyone on here telling me what could have happened I decided that was my sign. So tues I started a taper I went from taking 20 to 15 on tues then wed decided to take a big jump and took 3 pills when I woke up at 7 along with chlonodine and a non narcotic muscle relaxer ib profen 800 then slept until 2pm woke up took 2 tramadol and a chlonodine laod on the couch most of the day besides when getting up to answer the door for the pizza guy so the kids could eat then around 8:30 i took a sleeping pill (trazadone) another chlonodine and no tramadol this time. I slept till like 2 woke up took a Ibprofen another half a sleeping pill and was able to sleep till 6am on wednesday so i woke up Waited till 7 took 2 tramadol and a muscle relaxer then slept till 12:30 woke up took a hot bath then laid on the couch with a heating pad till about 3 picked kids up from school made. Them a snack helped with homework then about 4:30 i took only  1 tramadol an Ibprofen and a chlonodine along with vitamin c and b-12 laid on the couch or in my bed on and off until I made a quick easy dinner and when hubby got home I told him I was taking myself off the tramadol so the next week I am not gonna be 100% he was happy that I was getting off of them as he doesn't like any type of pill. Anyways I went to bed around 10pm took 1 1/2 sleeping pills and a muscle relaxer no tramadol. Today (Thursday) I woke up around 2:45 back aching really bad headache and restless legs I took an ib profen 800 and another chlonodine laid back down with heating pad fell asleep about an hour later woke up about 6:30 and just laid there switching sides until alarm went off at 7 to get kids ready for school. Today I felt like I had just ran a marathon and then was forced to tread thru knee deep mud is the best way I could describe it my arms felt like noodles and my back is the worst! Any ways I took kids to school came home took 1 tramadol an ib profen 800 a chlonodine and muscle relaxer laid in bed with heating pad on back and couldn't get comfortable but managed to wear myself out from tossing and turning and fell asleep till 11 woke up could barely walk to bathroom due to lack of energy and treading thru mud feeling ran a hot bath and laid in it for 30 min then got out back felt a little better so sat on the couch cause my back could not take laying any more used heating pad then around 3:00 got kids from school and I took 1 tramadol. I am feeling okay just main symptoms are back no energy and mud treading feeling. I have some old lortab 5 mg from when I had a tooth pulled a year ago and was wondering if stoping the tramadol completely and just taking 1-2 of those a day would be more helpful? Any ways compared to what I went through 2 yrs ago in a detox facility from opiets and benzo's this is not unbearable but I was wondering if it will prob get worse once I stop taking 1-3 a day of the tramadol which is what I have tapered down too. But I was thinking if I have gone from 20 a day to 2 or 3 a day in 3 days if I just somehow got lucky and my body is taking it better than some? Thanks for listening

[Tramprisoner]

Bump

[overopiates]

U CAN taper w/those but u clearly need some1to hold&give u what ur alloted dose.i would normally say its insane to go2subs from trams but a 10day program sounds good.U got off other meds w/that so it works for u but u NEED AFTERCARE ASAP.Get that in place now!!U will.never STAY clean otherwise.Actually I think if ur taking that many a day u will have a miserable time tapering on ur own even w/a large script cause u take so many u will have what would be a really quick miserable time.Talk2ur dr tomorrow.U can GET CLEAN.ITS ABOUT STAYING CLEAN.NA,THERAPY(I c a addiction therapist&go to group meetings).U need to not only get them out of ur system but find out why u went back to using hun.Get that fixed,get a great support system or better yet numerous different groups.TIME TO BE HONEST WITH EVERYONE.Family,friends,medical professionals,call pharmacy tell the not to fill these or any narcotics,tell ur dr etc TELL ABYONE WHO WILL LISTEN!!