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Trapped

I found this forum recently and have spent some time "lurking" and reading.  I finally decided to take what for me is one really big step, even if among anonymous people to me.  Maybe that's what is helping me do it, because I am not yet able to IRL.

I have been a drug addict .... I just typed periods because I paused for a minute.  You know, I've known for a long time that I'm addicted to drugs.  I've always had that thought in my head.  But I've never said it even to myself.  I've never typed that sentence, and that took me back.

I currently take 30mg IR Oxycontin for a total of between 240-300 mg per day.  I had lower back surgery in 2000 that went horribly wrong and I was in terrible pain for some time.  Then I was in an accident in 2007 and broke my neck in two places as well as my lower back.  Again, severe pain for which I legitimately needed pain medicine.  But just like that first time in 2000, there came a time I didn't really need them anymore but have simply kept taking them.  Getting them is not a problem at all for me.  I get monthly refills and I stay within what I am prescribed.  Now I know many may think, hey, you're taking them as prescribed, no problem.  BIG PROBLEM.  I DON'T NEED THEM!  I take them because they make life "feel" better, you know how that goes.  Well, they USED to do that.

Now I just take them to keep feeling normal.  I don't get a "high" off of them at all unless I overtake.  But at this dosage, that could get very dangerous so I don't do it.  Sometimes I will actually not take them during the day to start feeling like hell on purpose so that I can take them later and get a "good feeling" from them.

Family and friends do not know that I have been taking this medicine for the past ten years.  I know, that sounds unrealistic, but trust me it's possible.  I've hated myself for this for a long time, and it's finally catching up with me.  I'm starting to push the envelope even to feel "normal".  I have borrowed money in the past, lied, and done some horrible things to make sure I was able to get my monthly dose.  There were times when I was financially down that I would do anything and everything to get the money I needed.  I never did steal or do anything like that, but I did lie and use people - people that I truly love and who are important to me.  God I feel like such a piece of garbage typing this.  I don't think I would have had the courage to do this without this anonymous forum.

In any case, I am truly trapped.  I want to stop so badly.  I can't, just can't, go cold turkey.  I am what they call a "functioning addict".  I know all kinds of terminology with all the research I've done over the years, knowing I was addicted and every now and then wanting to stop.  But never really, until now.  I hate this stuff with a passion.

My problem is that I am constantly in some level of legitimate pain, but not enough that would require this type of pain medicine.  Well, actually, I've been taking this so long that I don't really know if that's accurate.  Maybe if I stopped it, I would be hurting so badly that I would find I really do need some amount of it.  But then back on that roller coaster I go.

I'm rambling and don't know why I typed all this.  I want to stop, but it's so hard.  I don't know.  I've typed this much, so I'll just post it and see if someone can make some sense of the mess I've created for myself.
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I dont know if anyone will hear me, but I hope so. I quit ct 240 mgs of oxy a day 9 days ago. However, im tapering off my percoset, down to 30 mgs a day, then a week of 20 mgs, a wk of 10 mgs, then...im done. Ive nog slept one night in 9 days. My dr. gave me zanax & clonodine (sp? Sooo tired, unreal.)  Can someone look in their crystal ball and tell me if I ever will sleep again? Or have enough energy to make myself a peice of toast? I am very ashamed of myself, complaining like this, as I have my husbands love & support, insurance, the zanax, for heavens sake, and my heart just aches for the people out there with absolutely no support, no resources. I have arthritis, I will be going on Enbril in a wk or two, pray it helps, b/c I have legit pain issues. However, I abused the hell out of that medicine, never snorted it, dr. shopped, etc, but I kept using more and more as my tolerance went up, and my whole life has been a disaster for about 2 yrs. I would plan my whole life around that damn refill. Then, not have enough, and always seem to be in a state of withdrawal. Always f feeling like ****. Sorry about the language. Reading all your stories is the only thing that gave me the courage and hope I needed to get me thru the past 9 days, I wil always be grateful. Your stories gave me the courage to go to my dr. and spill my guts with the aweful truth of how addicted I am. So, I will stop my bleery eyed, exhausted ramble, and prau someone who has been there can just tell me if I will ever, ever feel normal again, if I will ever sleep again, and when. Do ya'll ever just look at peopld who are "normal" with just, ...like fascination, and deep desire to just be like that? Will it ever be that way for me? God bless all of you good people. Please respond if poss.
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No no no...it's never hopeless!  You can end this...I know this to be true from personal experience!

It makes no matter what you've done...nothing would shock us!   But do you WANT to stop using?   Then you will!   All you need is the desire to stop and then it's over...there's help and support all around you; all around all of us.  You'll see...
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You'll be back.

I'll save a seat for ya :)
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Actually, it's a hopeless case.  I am so sorry to everyone who replied for wasting your time.  I probably should have said "unethical" and not "illegal", but in any case it would absolutely need to be told to understand my story.  I just don't want to run the risk of getting someone else in trouble.

God, I want to stop so bad.  I want to rewind my life for a "do-over".  I've just done so many people so wrong. I've been a liar and a user.  Though I haven't stolen or anything, I may as well have.  I've lied to get money, which is tantamount to stealing.  I have used, really used, people I love so much.  I've just failed them all.  I've failed myself.  I have allowed these little white pills to completely take control of me and turn me into the worthless waste of oxygen I have truly become.

I have tried this year, and took a big step, in turning my life around.  I have thought that I will stop the pills and things will look up with steps I have taken.  But I'm afraid it too little too late.  As much as I have used people, I'm afraid I've allowed myself to go well past the point of no return.

You folks do a lot of good though for those that still have a chance to kick this stuff and turn things around.  The lurking I've done has allowed me to see the good that you are doing.  I just wish I came along and found you all much sooner.
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Hi, I read your story and if it's been 5 days without oxy, the 5 days of hell was probably the oxy leaving your system so that's good news. Now you just need to focus on the percs. Tapering or CT it's up to you but I see you now at the crossroads, you can do it CT and it might not be as bad as you think, plus it'll be faster. Or you could continue your taper, I mean you seemed to have tapered off the oxy right?

You're already in the thick of it, you can't back down now. do what you feel is best and have a plan.  Take the vitamins and aminos listed on this site and ask your doc for prescription meds to deal with anxiety/depression, nausea/vomitting, sweats/restelesslegs/sleeping.  Make it easy for yourself and don't think too much into, just do it. Read the success stories and see how they were once scared like you.
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Hi and welcome.  First off no one here is going to judge you because we've all been there.  I too and ashamed to admit to the lying, stealing, manipulating and whatnot i did to get more pills.  But i say this all time, we can't change yesterdays, but we sure as hell can change today and the rest of our tommorrows, so STOP looking backwards on stuff we cant help and start helping yourself today.  I too had the HARDEST friggin time put the truth into words, because like you NO ONE knew what i had done to myself.  I was the highest functioning addict, so much so that when i finally told my husband he was TOTALLY shocked.  So, after 30 plus norco 10's a day for 8-9 years the day came when i was DONE.  I knew if i continued that eventually i'd end up killing myself from the drugs.  So, number one, this is a safe place to come, the support here had been detrimental to my 4 weeks clean, number two if you really want to get clean tell your supplier, your doctor, if he/she is worth a tinkers damn the doctor will HELP you.  WHen i told my doc enough was enough and the chance to get more pills was done, i got a huge rush of relief.  And pain?  After detoxing i realized that the med's made me think i was in horrible pain when really i can control the back pain just fine with motrin or advil.  You really need to re-access your pain and your doctor can help you find alternative ways to control the pain.  So please don't be afraid to come here, i bet that everyone on here has done things their not proud of, but know what?  Doesn't matter its in the past and we're trying to move on.  

I totally agree with the above on tapering, i couldnt do it because i know deep inside if those damn pills were here i'd be tripping over myself to take them, the temptation is too much for me.  So i chose cold turkey and yes the first couple days sucked but then all of  sudden it started to get better and i started trying some of the tips people here gave me and they worked.  And i posted like a nut case and got the support i needed.  Also i agree that the fear of telling is much worse than the bite.  If your family/friends love you they'll help and be a huge asset to you.  You don't need to tell everyone at first but find one person you love the most and feel the most comfortable with and tell them i bet they'll show you the most love you've ever seen.  

So please you've made the first step, you admitted it, the future is at your finger tips, take it!!

Good luck!
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What a great posting! I can relate to the functioning addict thing, my life ended up swirling around those F@ing pills, when is my refill, lying about the severity of my back pain..lying to get early refills, I could go on! Started on a one pill a day taper, and my friend, IMDONENoMore :) asked me, "why wait?"..so I stopped cold turkey. I had to suffer the worst of the withdrawls at work...like having the flu, but then one day u wake, and u don't feel so bad. I finally went to my back doc yesterday and told him I quit, and he put me on colodine (sp) and I slept decent for the first time in years! And, I must say...my back no longer hurts! Every ache and pain I had...all gone...they say pain meds create pain in your mind to keep u on them...I am 7 days clean...not a lot, but I am proud! And I gave myself a goal every day, even if it was to do my dishes...this is a great forum! Totally anonymous and we are all here for you!
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Hi, im someone very like you. I am prescrribed 120mgs (2 60's a day) of oxy, and 5, 20mg percocet a day for arthritis. I have overused my oxy's terribly. I am out, have been on 80mgs  of my percoset and thats all. Suffice to say, im veeling pretty horribly. My question, is this: I have already gone thru 5 days of pure hell by not taking the oxy anymore. I have been exhisting on the few percs I have left until monday (june13) sorry this is hard to follow, but if I taper those percs way down, am I in for another wk of pure hell and detox when I do stop the percs? Im afraid to tell my dr. the truth that I totally abused my oxy's last month. Is my plan to ween off percoset slowly foolish? My husband knows the,truth of it all. Im hoping the worst is behind me, but is it? Or do I have another huge wave of sickness coming to me when I stop the 40 mgs of perc as well? I appreciate this very much. God help me. Thank u
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Dayzed,
I was and still and concerened about the privacy poicly, however this site has been a crucial part of my recovery and if they have my IP address which I know they do I don't worry about that.  I keep my post well within guidelines and no name or illegal activities are even mentioned.  Other recovering members have said that the buy their drugs from the streets and it has cost them a fortune.  Also I go to NA twice a week and that is annonoumous lol.  they know me buy name now and run into me on the streets, grocery store, mall and in my place of work and some times that is not so good for me or them, due to what I do for a living. If I was to worry about that it would make me crazy.  If you are still concerned about privacy then you should really delete your facebook account. Thousands have been hacked and taken over.  You may have gained access and not even been aware but the hackers still have access through your security question.  Use a library computer if you want to. Post from multiple computers.  This is going to be the best place for you to get clean and stay clean.  Everyone here has been where you are today.  You can do It!!!  Give it a try.  It is so worth it.  God bless you!
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I think there really shouldn't be any need to post any illegal activities on this site in order to go cold turkey.  Just leave those parts out and express your will to stay clean, how you feel each day, etc. and we can provide advice based on that.

Let's face it, we're all addicts, I'm sure we all did things we weren't supposed to or regret.

I will say this, from reading many posts on this site, I do ocassionally see threads of people seeking help because they've forged prescriptions and whatnot, and I don't think anybody here reported them, I'm not saying that's its safe to post illegal activity, just giving an example that it has been done here.

Just use your judgement, and anonymity is more than welcomed here.  Don't turn down help from this site solely because of privacy policies. Seek help from this site because you want that clean life you were talking about ^ up there ^
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There is actually much more to my story that needs to be told for any proper advice, but I am hesitant to write it.  I will not under any circumstances reveal my name or any others that are part of this, but I'm trying to find a privacy policy here and haven't been able to.  I need to know without a doubt that no administrator or anyone else who reads this will say, "Hey, that's illegal and needs to be reported!" and then proceeds to try to track my an IP address.

I know, that sounds ridiculously paranoid, but I cannot open myself to a knock on the door and then questions about who/what/when/where etc. and run the risk of getting someone else in trouble.
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Lol hopefully thats a good wow, not a wowww this girl is crazyyyyy! haha
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"The drugs will always be there, they are not going anywhere, you might as well give getting sober a shot."

Wow.
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That's what I figured the term functioning addict. I was definately one without a doubt.  I could either get a crap load of work done, or relax when there's nothing to do and try to feel the high (in my case on an empty stomach). And now that I think about it, if I was taking pills during work time and down time, that's literally for everytime.

You typed that you were a drug addict and paused. I've done that pause. This might sound petty compared to others, and a little icky, but I realized I was an addict to pills when I was carrying them in the same pocket with my keys and that I was swallowing them dry with no water or anything to flush em down.  That of course led to snorting etc. But it's those little moments where you kinda knew exactly where you were that day when you realized you're addicted.

Harper is a good example of doing it cold turkey and look at how she sounds today :) If you have a doc he can prescribe some meds that'll make the wd's go alot easier. On top of the Thomas Recipe and Amino Protocol, people are saying Clonodine helps for the sweats, restless legs and i think sleep even.  There's meds for anxiety attacks and depression, and there's meds for nausea and vomiting. Don't think too much into it, it really is easy going through WD, it's staying clean that's the toughest stage.

But I think if you just get a few days, weeks, months, etc clean, You would have had something to remember forever even if it was for a short moment, that you were clean and how good it felt to get through an entire day, doing errands, going to work, school whatever, laughing, getting pissed, getting something accomplished, just getting through 24hrs and realizing you did it without pills, is something to remember forever.  I don't think you've yet to have that moment yet. And by playing devil's advocate, say you do slip and happen to relapse... at least you had those moments of clean days that can give you hope to jump back into the fight.

I really hope this thread turns into something big in the weeks to come :)
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1697690 tn?1329123638
Hey,
I think your post makes perfect sense. Btw never have heard someone else say that out loud but I used to do that same thing as you, let myself get a little sick knowing I had pills, just so that I could get a high when I did them. It was like I wanted to dip into WD so that the pills would pull me back and id feel high rather than taking them and just barely being okay etc. So strange lol I had never heard someone else say that.

ANyways, I just detoxed cold turkey from your amount, a bit higher actually. I was snorting and smoking oxycontin. It was a truly terrible detox and really I am still in the process of detoxing, but each day after liek a week I can see a bit of progress. I know the term functioning addict, I think it definitely applies to some people, I used to think " I was one" but the way I see it is functioning addict is just someone going through the motions of life, youre not sleeping on the streets and robbing people, but youre not really living either, because drugs/opiates keep you constrained, you always have to make sure you have enough opiates so you dont get sick, maintain through the day, etc. yes you're somewhat functioning but your still a prisoner to your drug. But I do understand how it can mess with your head, as you want to stop but you dont have that many visible consequences in your life motivating you to stop which means it really just comes down to how you feel on the inside and if you truly want to stop.

I kind of got a vibe from your post that you just kind of sound depressed and down on yourself and just like "blah"  maybe like you have little hope. Youre miserable on the pills yet don't think you can stop them? ( I could be totally wrong, and apologize if i am) but you might as well take a chance. The drugs will always be there, they are not going anywhere, you might as well give getting sober a shot.
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I'm not sure what you meant by 'functioning addict' as far as what the addiction terminology refers to it, but I'll google it in a bit.

Reading your post you def sound like you want to quit and that's def how it starts. I think you don't give yourself credit and I bet if you give it a shot you might realize it wasn't as hard as you thought. C/T is totally doable and there are people here who have done it at the same dosage as you.

You basically told your whole story to this site which says alot.  Try reading it from another person's perspective and you will see a guy who truly want's to quit, and you really want to see him get that sense of norlmacy he so wants.

Just remember normal means having all the feelings in the book. The good and the bad. You're not gonna feel happy off pills 24/7 when you're clean.  You just can't have it both ways.  But it's a much better option than a perpetual life on pills :)
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I have to quote from one of our most loved members here - gnarly - this secret is keeping you SICK.  Reach out to someone close to you and give them the chance to be there for you.  Wouldn't you do the same for someone you loved?  You came here and this is a great place to start.  :)  welcome.
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Hi and welcome!

It all makes perfect sense and, believe me, you're in very good company.  It seems you need to get off the pills or at least get to a point where you can assess the pain you have,if any.

You can do one of two things: cold turkey or taper. Tapering is hard unless you have someone to help you. Cold turkey gets the job done quickly in comparison but it's also unpleasant. It's totally doable though!

I can suggest a couple of things:  Talk to your doctor. If you're serious,this is the best thing to do. The doctor can assist you with other meds to help the detox (like clonidine) and keep an eye on your b/p.

Next,and this is really vital, you need to tell someone. A friend,family,it doesn't matter but you'll need support and a lot of it. Don't underestimate the people who love you, they'll still love you and can really help the process.


What do you think?  Do you want to give it a try?  This forum is a great support,with really genuine people. I'm glad you found it!

Post back...
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