Vicodin vs.methadone detox?

[mouse1977]

Takign methadone for over two weeks.  I;m down to 5mg a day and am in constant pain if I go any lower.  Thinking to switch to vicodin 5 mg per day to get METHADONE out of my system.  Know this sounds dumb but I think the methadone is only MASKING my addiction and not allowing me to completely stop.  So frustrated.  Just got yelled at for posting this somewhere else- I'm on a "drug rollercoaster" I guess.  Well f*** I don't know what to do I'm not a dr. Isn't that the point of this website?? Ugh.  I feel like methadone is so much more addictive than the vicodin....

[colleen206]

Hi Wes
   What do u mean when you say don't get on a plane while in withdrawl's?
Thanks =)  My friend.

[wesinbama]

Do not get on a plane going thru wds! You will have an air Marshall waiting for you when you' get off because you will act a fool on the plane. That reminds of the bad idea jeans skit I  heard on SNL.. I thought about wearing a condom, but then I thought I'm only in Hati once.
Don't even try it drunk. Won't work.

[kellyG317]

HONESTLY there is no easy way out,people and my self have been trying to find ways to make detox so much easier but its not so this is really what im going to say what ever you decide to do just do it but try to remember this yes you will feel like **** but you will feel like **** for so many days it could even take a month or months but think about it your strong get through it and know that at that end one day you will wake up and feel like you did when you werent a drug addict but better because you learned and lived through somthing just horrible.I KNOW I SOUND A BIT CRAZY and maybe i am but all i know the truth is your reading somthing from someone who has been through it all and i mean all and still not there yet but its hard and i feel so alone but i get up in the mourning and wake my 9 in half son up for school and then 25 min later i here my 8 month old daughter and i think to myslf how lucky i am to have them here with me then i think if i was old me where would they be and that scares me so much im preeching i know but get through it the way you want to and do meetings if you want to whatever will keep you sober and to end this i want you to know ive been homeless,in jail for 4 months rehabs,crack houses i even had a boyfriend who was the main drug dealer in his town so you know what i had to do to keep him my boyfriend,i stripped which i never thought i would do any of those things, im saying this because its hard i know even if your a simple kid from a nice town and had a good bring up we all feel and have the same thoughts and pain keep going and a drug is a drug methadone,vic,percs,herion,mophin ect....... think about what you want and remember the sickness is only wks of your life the hard part is mental no matter how long  your sober for but you and i and many other people will find ways to fight that ******* devil - drug

[captinarrr]

Can anyone tell me how bad it's going to be for me when I've took only 10-15mgs a day?Very rairly I would take two because I was haveing alot of breakthrew pain.Any sudjestions?

[LeaAnn807]

Well, I GUESS I'm a normal person!!! : )  LOL  Ask people who know me!!!  

Yes, I am clean and have been for over 3 months.  I want to be honest with you.  Methadone will not be easy to WD from.  Neither is vicodin.  Vicodin is probably the easier of the two, but it still comes with WDs.  There is NO way around it.  You will have to go thru WDs to get to the other side of this, and I know that's where you want to be.  Thing is....WDs have a mind of their own.  Hoping to stay drunk and push through that way isn't smart and most likely will not do anything but make it worse for you.  I would not want to be on an airplane in WDs.  NOT a good idea.  I bet there's not a person on this forum who would disagree with me on that.

If I were you, and I have been many times, I would go to my doctor, explain the whole thing, truthfully, and go from there with his recommendations.  Ok?  I am really telling you what I would do here, and I believe that is best for you in this situation.  You are going to have to get some support too for when you stop, so you won't keep going thru this cycle!

Keep posting ok?  Let us know what you decide to do!

[mouse1977]

thank you for the encouragement.  You seem like a normal person.  Are you clean or taking pills still?  I am so scared.  I tried to go to  NA meeting at two different places- but I swear the people looked so scary. I only have a little methadone left but I hate taking it because it stays in system so long.  I don't want to sound like an idiot, but would it be better to take 5mg of vic daily until meth is out of system and then just stop?  I know I have to, but which is better?

Plus I can't really get anymore methadone- I got it from someone who didn't need it.  I have no doctor- can I go to my regular doctor to get that or is he going to send me to jail??  Or turn me away?  I dont' even know where to get this legally.  I don't have health insurance.   i called one office and they wanted $650/ day to detox me.  ?? insane.  I used to laugh at junkies like me.   Now time to face the music.  I have until next thurs.  Or option is to keep tapering and just get drunk for 2 days on airplane and hope I'm all better when we land!!!!  lol kidding.  All nerves.  BUT i will say yoga and jacuzzi are the best things I've found for the pain in my legs and spine.  I am down from taking 90mg of roxys per day so maybe I am doing ok.  But I want off everything.  

[LeaAnn807]

Well, I don't know how long to feel "normal", but a good place to start is now, to get off since you are down to 5 mg.  That is GREAT.  See what you have done already??  I have one question though.  If you are in constant pain and leaving the country, then why do you have to be off your meds?  Why can't you continue until you get home, on the dose you are on now?  

A lot of this will depend on YOU and your attitude.  I swear.  It's not all physical.  A little positive thinking will help you along.  You can't go into this thinking "I am so f'd right now!"  You have to just think that you can do it and that you WILL do it!  

It's not all gloom and doom!  You have done great to get this far.

[mouse1977]

ues I am looking for an answer and an easy way to stop.  I hate taking anything and I cry all the time thinking whay a loser I am to be hooked on these stupid pills.  I DO WANT TO BE CLEAN,  When Isropped taking the methadone I couldn't handle the pain and even my husband got really scared.  I am so f'd right now.  I have to go out of the country next week and have to be off this by then.  ok- she didn't yell at me but basically called me a ******* and offered no solution....  Not constructive and plus I'm so irritable.  I appreciate all of the HONEST posts.  I do have to just jump. Thx.  Any idea the time frame to feel semi-normal?  As is being able to walk and go places??

[gnarly_1]

HI and welcome to the forum....well if I where you I would get off the methadone b/4 it gets its hooks into you....methadone withdrawals are not know to be very pleasant no narcotics are but out of the 2 evils methadone is the worst of the 2...it looks to me like your looking for a get out of jail free card here...theirs not one out there ...your going to have to face thew fact to get clean your going to have to go thew withdrawals ...this brings up the question then....why go back on the vicaden in the first place...your only postponing the inevitable...I would sugjest you sit back and read some of the posts here so you can prepare yourself for what is to come....check out a N/Aor A/A meeting and get hooked up with some people that can help you thew this...where all here to support you as you go down this difficult road...a lot of us have been there....there is some good advise on this forum ...grab hold of it and lets get you off the roller coaster your on...YOU CAN DO THIS and you dont have to continue to live this way
good luck and God bless......Gnarly    

[vicki595]

Hi~  I read your other post.  No one yelled at you.

You're not under a doctors' care and you need to be. You have pain issues?

Methadone is not an easy drug to c/t from but none of them are easy.  Stop the methadone and evaluate your pain level. Contact a doctor for support.

All the best~
Vicki

[LeaAnn807]

Hi mouse!  Like the name!  Ok, here's the deal.  You can keep switching from one to another and back, or just jump and be done!  I know you are frustrated and probably irritated about this whole thing, and you want someone to tell ya what to do, right?  Nobody can really tell you how YOU will respond, but I do know THIS much......you eventually have to suffer a little to be free.  It is just fact.  It's not fun, but it's certainly doable.  If you keep switching drugs, trying to avoid WDs, you will just go from one addiction to another until you have pretty much covered them all, like me!!!  

I was where you are a while back, and I wanted an easy way to get off drugs.  That way doesn't exist.  You gotta pay when you play.  It's that simple.

My best wishes and good luck to you!  

[sway1]

if you've only been on methadone for 2 weeks or so i think you should get off the ride altogether. 5mg is a decent place to jump off. what is it that you really want? to be off pills? they are both addictive. going on vicodin is not a solution. it's just another problem. if you really want to get clean i think an NA meeting would be a good place to start. if there are doctors on here, they are addicts too. once you get clean you will be surprised at you actual level of pain. i believe these pills MASK pain relief. i am using only alieve for pain now. i never would have thought that was possible. good luck! sway