no need to apologize. we all have our own thoughts and opinions on different subjects. the important part is to be honest and ask questions when necessary.
you are doing great. be proud of yourself.
the post I wrote on this subject were called "WE NEED WITHDRAWL" and " an ignorant apology" please read these two post there were a lost of great things said but remember this is my first detox. And this only my 7th day and iam not doing as well as a thought I was. Good luck god bless
That is awesome man. I am glad that Suboxone has done this for you. It seems I live a double life. One is the person who dresses nice and goes out and smiles to the world, and the other is the pill popping addict that lies, decieves and does ANYTHING to get what he needs.. This is horrible and I thank god I finally have the means for real professional help..
Iam glad ur doing well. I was taught how n why suboxone is used. I wrote an apology last night on this. I know u can understand that iam tired. Tired of everthing right now. Plaese look. 4 my apology i posted
I have met doctors and pharmacists and overall "junkie" haters who think we addicts deserve it. I was special, though, different from addicts. If they could understand where I was coming from they would see that it is OK for me to do the things I do. I was too good to go through withdrawals like some loser.
What people should know is that when the medical people kicked me out of their facilities, I would get my fix somehow. My vengence had me often wishing the self-righteous doctor who "helped" me as an addict could see me sneak into an old woman's house to steal her cancer meds. This is about as low down as you can get, but I was there. I always had it justified- "They can get more." Truth is that the same Schedule II laws apply to everyone, not just addicts, concerning filling a script.
Any time I got shut down, I would find another avenue. The fear of w/d's and my compulsion to get high would over-ride any sense of morality or decency I had left.
After scores of waxing and waning episodes, treatment, taper, c/t, etc. I found that I would always return. Suboxone has helped me from returning to my cycle of destruction.
I was an awful person while addicted, I will never deny that. Fortunately, Suboxone has helped me return to the normalcy that so many others live, minus the pill under the tongue each morning.
ps.
The obvious sarcasm was directed at myself, reminding me of how things used to be.
not saying cop-out. Saying ur scared. Which is what iam. Iam on day six off. Doing 80-100mg a day for a year. I dont want relapse. That is why u should feel some pain since u felt the joy for so long popping n snorting as I
understand that ur condition requires that for safety reasons. But, i may be, well iam an idiot for saying this but dont we deserve this punishment. Of withdraw, I meen like a peniece after all it is my fault.
Not everyone that experiences the horrible feeling of full blown withdrawl time and time again stay clean just because of fearing this. Yes it is scary and horrible feeling. If I was to experience it only once in ly life it would be enough to remember forever..
Some people are so addicted that withdrawl alone isnt enough to keep them clean.. You asked what suboxone was right? You should research it and find out about it first before saying it is a cop-out.. Some people need professional help to get clean. Having the sh!ts, shakes, and feeling horrible isn't enough for some to just stay clean..
I also hope it works.. Because I am one of those people that need it for help with my addiction. Everyone is different and not everyone will always agree with someone else either.. But the main thing is to get clean and stay clean.. so when 100 times of cold turkey killer withdrawls dont seem to keep an addict from relapsing then he searches for others means to get and stay clean..
It would depend on how heavily addicted. But some meds or doses are just way too hard to get off of. Sub works to get rid of w/ds. While at the same time keeping you off of opiates. If you take them (opiates) it causes massive w/ds.
I did the Suboxone route, short term. It helped me to detox off of the pain meds because I have an underlying illness that made detox dangerous for me. I did it for 16 days and it was really quite helpful.
Some folks do it short term, some stay on it as maintenance. It depends on the person. It does get you through the physical withdrawal, but it also gets you through the mental anguish. Often times the mental part of this disease is far worse than any withdrawal.
Suboxone needs to be started while you are into hours of withdrawal so anyone looking to start it after day 1...well, there is no sense.
If you google it, you will find a lot of good information on it, if you are really interested.