addiction

[jlminstl]

If suboxone is to help with oxycontin withdrawls, why is it so hard to stop subonone,  do you still have opiate withdrawls?   if so why is suboxone so good????  is there a chemical way to detox, how long.

[nickfromtoronto177]

i think the taper for oxycontin is 14% a week...thats what my dr told me...but he gave me a break, and instead went from giving me 300 80s a week,yes a week, to 280,then 260,then240 and so on...so he dropped off 20 tabs everyweek until i got to 200 a week....nowhis next move was to taper me 1.5 pills a day so in total 11 pills a week...so i went from 200 pills to 189 pills...and when i complained that it should only be 1.0 pills a week he said ok..so from 189 to 182 , then to 175 tablets, and when i went in the following friday feb.19.2010 he cut me off cold turkey...he told me he would stick by me until i got into rehab.He was in contact with my therapist at CAMH...and i was to be addmitted in April of 2010,the same year...so i onnly had like a month and a bit to go...im 24 years old..i told my DR in the beggining i was hooked on them and i could get off them myself if he could give a bunch of 10mg Oxys. So he agave me 100 tabs...but it went from that to getting 35, 20mg tabs a week,and i kept having it increased and he didnt blink an eyelash when i would go into see him...he always had a smile on and up'd my doseage...until one day two years later i was gettin 10, 40mg tablets a day...so 70 tabs a week..then i told him i wantd 5 80s a day instead of 10, 40mgs a day (same thing less pills)..he did it once again...and then i got him to up it a little while after to 10 80mg tabs a day..until i started using them like crazy and going thru them so quick that in the very worst i was getting 300 80mg tabs and 200 40mg tabs A WEEK and eating every single one of them...also 120 clonazapam a month...but id run out within two weeks and he would always allow my refill out of the pharmacy early..this dr...is still prescribing pain killers to people here in toronto... the college of drs and phys. isnt trying to help me at all...im trying to get my files released for them but my Dr.( or old Dr) wont let his staff release the file..i ended up with liver problems,kidney problems,pneumonia twice...my teeth are almost all gone and the thing that saved my life...was SUBOXONE...i went into a methadone clinic got on the meth and 9 days later was admitted to CAMH after beggging them to let me in. They put me on Suboxone after the half life of the meth wore off, cuz it can kill u, or put u into a reallly bad withdrawl,called precipatated withdrawl. Almost dead basically. So ya Suboxone definatley works wonders for addictions..I was sick the first night i was in detox( couldnt sleep, diarhea, joint muscle pains? if they even pains..weakness..chills sweats all that fun stuff) but other then the first nite i was able to sleep everynite...with the help of my clonazapam and seroqeul.THATS IT...anyone have any questions about suboxone , write on this forum wall to --NICK from Toronto-- hope my story scares some of you u to quit and get clean...i love life right now...:) thnks for reading ciao

[jlminstl]

to answer your question what am I addicted to and how much.  First off, I have had 5 back surgeries, I have had 5 disc removed, and have 2 rods, 3 plates, and 16 screws in my neck and back.  And it pisses me off that the Doctors give you these meds and just leave you hanging.  I do not want to be a slave to the meds anymore.  However I dont know what i am going to do for pain but I thing I hate the meds worse.  your question.... 4, 80 mg oxycontin a day and 6, 4mg dilaudid for break thru pain.  I think the doctors should tell you about the withdraws first.  however I  dont know much about the withdrawls other than I start to have them and could not deal, how do you funciton. if you work.  how many days, can you take less and less mg to make the end eaiser.  

I need answers    Thank you

[gnarly_1]

HI and welcome to the forum to detox you dont need sub.....sub is intended for the most chronic abuser in mind someone that has tryed repeatedly to get clean and failed...it is a program not just a drug and wile on the program you work with aftercare to help build up your foundation so that once your back on your feet you can stand on your own
..it takes you out of the cycle of active addiction and gicve you a chance to get well but in the end you have to withdrawal off the sub the same as any other opiate....there is no
''get out of jail free card'' once your addicted your going to have to face withdrawals to get out of the mess your in....if you dont mind me asking what are you addicted to and how much of it are you taking??......just trying to help ya here....Gnarly