withdrawal

[hotmama83]

i want to say one more thing, it seems everyone here roughs it out and deals with the withdrawals...the thing isi cant do that. i have a kid to take care of..24/7.. i cant just "call in sick" i cant just lay in bed all day..so it feels like hell for me, my boyfriends works and i have no money to hire help like a babysitter and all my relatives are extremely busy.. so i have no choice but to be with my daughter through the w/d's. its just so hard..

[hotmama83]

hey try posting a new question, but me personally i have tried both subutex and suboxone and i am just tryin to get off the suboxone now, im trying to do a short term detox, but so far i have found it is helpful medicine, but you can experience withdrawals from it if you don't taper off it..good luck though

[bmc1976]

You need to post a new question. You will get a lot of responses if you do. Sometimes older posts get passed up. Just click on "post a question" at the top of the page.

[bud164]

I have just failed trying to taper and have a Dr.'s appt. tomorrow for consultation and suboxone, does anyone have experiences to share regarding suboxone

[Mikeinthesouth]

hope so too for you. Hang in there and exercise away..

[hotmama83]

thanks guys, your adivce has been soooo helpful. i have been exercising almost daily and i have been taking tons of vitamins and supplements..i know the only reason i am feeling ok now is cuase im on suboxone. i just fear the withdrawals after i stop taking it. so i am learning how to taper off sub. hopefully i can avoid the w/d's. god bless all of you

[feohmoon]

Enemy - I can absolutely relate as I have nowhere to be...no discipline.  I think I do better under pressure! lol  My fiance has had to work since day 5 off methadone and has actually done better than I have.

You are exactly right about survival mode kicking in.  We would all be very surprised and impressed to know what we are capable of.

Winter withdrawal are difficult...once spring truly arrives here I will feel much better working in the garden.

Hang in there...imagine how great summer will be!

The remedies that helped us are in our journal, please check it out.  Best of luck!

Peace & Love
Steven & Murphy

[girlybuff]

Hi hon.  Listen, I have been through withdrawals whilst breastfeeding my daughter and I couldn't sit still and I hadn't slept for 700 years.  I also was  the ONLY one to care for her.  Miraculously it CAN be done.  You go into survival mode because you don't have a choice.  That little girl is dependent on you and you are the only one who cares for her.
It's not easy and it does suck BIG time, BUT it's possible.  Stop telling yourself that you can't because you CAN.  Tell yourself that whatever it is that you have to go through to get sober to be there and be a prsent force in that child's life, you will because the alternative is unthinkable.
I went through withdrawals once in winter and I couldn't get out but now that the weather is changing, make a decision to get out and walk every day.  The exercise will produce endorphins and it will hep you get the toxins out faster.  I know the LAST thing you are going to want to do is exercise but with the right vitamins and some walking you will be over the worst part within 4-5 days.  The rest is mental and you absolutely need to get yourself into some sort of counseling or NA or AA because dealing with the physical part is barely a quarter of the battle.  
You must be willing to go to ANY lengths to get and STAY sober.  Aftercare is key.  Without it, you WILL relapse and you know in your heart that your daughter deserves better than thatg.
Please talk to me if you need encouragement or a kick in the ***. LOL
Love....

[enemy48]

To be honest with you, I wished I would have had such a responsibility as a child to care for.  It would have kept my focus in line.

Not having responsibilitis like I, seemed to make it harder.  No office to go to in morning, so set schedule to follow, etc.  I needed that at my detox time.

[catchiec]

i Hot,
  I think with some luck you might be able to skip the withdrawals with short term sub use. I was on high mgs of oxys and what I did was I took methadone for five days and then stopped in order to skip th oxy withdrawals. Because I stopped the methadone after 5 days I did not take it long enough for my body to become physically dependent on it but 5 days of it allowed me to skip getting sick. I think the same thing could work with sub, however remember if u take it to long your body will become physically dependent on it and have withdrawals far worst and much longer when you get off the sub then you would of if you had just gone cold turkey. I was lucky even after a year oof oxy use I found a way that worked for me that allowed me to get off all pills without ever having to become sick or even miss one day of work. As of today I haven't felt the need to take a pill in over three months. Good luck to you. Let me hear how everything goes for you and if you were able to come off your pills by short term sub use without getting sick

[coconuts27]

I understand where you're coming from. The withdrawals are really too hard for me too. I started tapering, that seems to work a little better. Even in my situation, my moms got the kids, no work, and I still struggle. I think that the biggest problem for me is that the pills are so easily accessible to me. When it gets hard, I just give up. Some people have a little more willpower and maybe no kids, no work. Keep trying though, and dont beat yourself up too bad. That just makes it harder. Hang in there.

[hotmama83]

first of all i would like to just say thanks to all you that actually read my post and took the time out of your days to help me out and reply. i am new to this and find it extrememly helpful..i don;t have a doctor, so im on the suboxone only because my boyfriend has the prescription..we are both addicts..and i dont want to take the subs any longer than i have to. i first tried subutex and had HORRIBLE w/d's.. i thought to myself, why even try to quit when the medicine thats supposed to get rid of the withdrawls, GIVES me withdrawls as well!!?? its a nasty feeling when i cant get up to hold my daughter, she is soooooo active.. i am trying to taper off as best i can. im also taking clonidine and serax. i feel like you guys know what your talking about and care about me more than any doctor would..thanks for the advice and the encouragment. i appreciate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shotrock]

Great Post.... Remember Meth has a long half life, your not home free ,but your in the game... Congrats! Shot Rock day 23

[rob8080]

im on day 9 of hydro or oxy of 50mgs or higher everyday for 4yrs...for the first 6 days i took very low doses of methadone just to make w/ds tolerable ..but its 3days with no methadone and im feeling good...i tried to quit alot of times but never was serious..this time is diff i really wanna quit & have my mind set...im not feeling sorry 4 myself this time and not making excuses ..THE LONGER U WAIT TO QUIT THE HARDER IT IS TO QUIT...its a nasty never ending cycle ,,it only gets worse,,,u start on vics ,thn vics to percs,then percs to oxy contin,then oxy contin to herion,,every1 says vics is far as they'll go,,but once u realize need more vicodins to get high but cant tke more cus the tylo is killing ur liver thn thats whn u turn to OXYS ,,SOONER THE BETTER

[poetrygirl1960]

You really can do it hotmamma!  I have 3 kids and I have kicked myself over and over for not giving the pills up when they were young.  I felt like I couldn't because by day 2 or 3 I had no energy, and they were crazy wild kids too.  If I would have been thinking right I would have begged my mother or a friend to help me with them just long enough to get through that initial physical sickness.  They're still crazy wild, but they have me completely now, all of me.  You do have this strength, reach inside and find it.

[jfreema81]

I feel you... I have 2 toddlers myself. Somehow I have cared for them and gone to work (preschool teacher) through this. What Shotrock said rings true....the w/d's are easier when you are distracted because you cant think over and over about the only thing you think will make you better in that moment. Just take it easy on household stuff. The mess will be there when you are done with w/d's, the resolve you have right now to quit may not. And I know it is hard to not take the best care of your kids for a few days, it HAS to be better than the kind of mother I am on pills which is distant, distracted, and putting pills above the boys. Find ways to laugh with your child, as cheesy as that is. I swear if they could bottle thier smiles and laughs, it would cure all. Take care, please contact me if you need support from someone in the same boat.

[Shotrock]

The funny thing is alot of us here have mentioned that as bad as the WDS get when you have to do something you do.. My 2nd day of WDS my 16 yr old son thought he could fix the toilet, long story short we had a mini flood, I was sure I could not function, not possible. 1 hour later, my son and I had it cleaned up, and I was back to having a bad flu... But that hour was the only relief I had in first 4 days....   You can do it!  Its easy to say we can"t, but if you want your Life Back, You Can..........

[what2donow]

I understand what you are saying, believe me I do.I have a 7 yr old, a 3 yr old and my baby is 1.I dont have any family at all.I have done it with 3 and I know you can do it with 1.I bought easy meals that I could just pop into the oven.I had premade sippy cups and bottles,I had pre planned activities for the.I let them watch TV alot and thats not what I usally do.I also bought a ton of coloring books.Where there is a will there is a way.Keep ur chin up and dont give up.

[kim715]

I know how hard it is to be going through withdrawls and chasing children. I am 40 and my husband and I have been raising his daughters two little girls for 8 months now,ages 2 and 4. It is part of the reason I am doing this. I had to quit my job to stay home and take care of them,which meant my husband had to pick up a nighttime job so we never see him. I was going to a methodone clinic and the cost of 95 dollars a week was killing me.I felt so guilty, [ stay away from methodone as a solution]. I get a break on Fridays and Saturdays because they go with my husbands ex.,but the rest of the week they are all mine. I do bare minimum. If the dishes don't get done right after dinner so what,if there are toys on the playroom floor oh well. It's a little hard for me sometimes because I am a neat freak, and sometimes I feel guilty that my husband has to trip over legos and barbies,but some things are more important then others.I am trying to give myself as well as my family a better me by being sober. The dishes will get done, the toys will get picked-up. Trust me what your family really wants is asober,happy you. Goodluck to you. You can do this.

[GoingToMakeIt]

Then taper off them. Most of us didn't have the discipline to do this, but it is the better way. Slowly tapering minimizes withdrawals.