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I am currently taking 200-240mg of oxycotin a day by snorting all but 1 pill, i know rediculous, but here is my question, i want to start eating them, and only 2 a day, is it possible, and what should i expect? I usually crush 3-4 in the morning when waking up, then a few more through the day and then a half of a 40 at bed, i would like to get to the point that i can eat one in the am and eat one at bed, i have never before consumed them properly, except for the 1 at lunch why i dont know,,,, but can this be done and again what should i expect and for how long, a friend says i wont be that sick as i am eating them so they will be in my system anyways and release slowly into the body,,,is he full of ****, or is he right???? any and all insight would be helpfull, please no referal to methadone, not interested and i dont have any idea where to find suboxin, i have tried.....thank-you... also tapering slowly isnt an option.....come Friday I would like to go to 2 a day, yes by choice not because i wont have enough to continue.....i wanna do 2 a day for awhile then 1 then hopefully off
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I have done none today, and dont plan to i booked 4 days off of work and will see where i am in 4 days, if still sick i may have to do 1 as i cant get more time, I am determined that i am doing this, yes i feel like crap, but what can ya do except take the day as it comes, i have a comfy couch and a pillow, if need be.......................ill stay on it all day
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I dunno, some people said you would have any withdrawls from lowering them, but thats a big drop. I was doin pretty much the same amount, sometimes more or less, but when I tried to taper off a little, I felt pretty bad. I ran out for one day tho, and was really really sick. I think it helped to let myself get sick though, because after not taking anything just one made me feel better. i didnt get high or anything but it made me fell "normal". I dont know if you can stand not taking them for a day like that , knowing you have sum, but the tapering thing did not work for me. I got some subutex and that seemed to help the most. I thought it was the same thing as suboxone, but the suboxone made me really tired and not want to do anything. I would try seeing a doctor. I would have if I had insurance.You will probably just have to try a few things and see what works best for you. Good luck with everything, !
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hay thanks, i feel like poo just figured it out, it blocks out certain words like *%#!(#&*#@*..........lol..... i just hate the fact something controls me like it does, i worked today but i dont know if i can tomorrow it has hard todday. I just really hate my life right now, love the fam, great friends, excellent job, but being hooked to these pills is what kills me, and i hate it, I still havent snorted anything, but i am tempted, but wont, i almost feel like taking whats left and throwing them and saying screw it and just go through the sickness now....no matter what, although friends say the no matter what i wont like any, and some say two weeks of runs and vomiting...that i worry about.
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I've been reading this post off and on the past few days, and I just wanted to chime in and tell you to hang in there. Our bodies allow us to feel like poo for a few days or more to let us know that we're getting off the drugs/chemicals in our body. It's a good thing, and an even better sign. Like I said, hang in there.
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Today ***** large, i hurt everywhere, and still feel sick,,,,,,i hate this and the pills,,,,,,,,,right now i just hate everything,,,,,,i am doing this one way or another, either i can quit by end of month or it will kill me trying........I have had enough
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1416133 tn?1351123217
I agree with every word you wrote gnarly.  I'm SO grateful you are here you have no idea.
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HI.....been following your story from the side lines......brings back a lot of bad memories of snorting diladid each night in the bathroom.....was reading your last post and after being on here a wile the 3 things that make the most difference in a withdrawal are length of use how high of dose and then age....in that order....although many here my not agree with me age is significant the 40 somethings dont bounce back as quickly as the 20 somethings do ....I was a pill addict for 10yr then on to methadone for another 6 1/2 I detopx many times and as age progressed it got harder....many say each consecutive time you go threw it it gets harder....I agree with that also...it will be what it will be and no to withdrawals are the same nor recovery's.....one formula says for every yr you use expect 1mo recovery time...I tend to agree with this also but also know that habits as short as 1yr have had longer recovery's.......there is no exact formula for recovery  you just need to surrender to it  ....become pro active in it seek out aftercare N/A is good
as are consolors and therapist that specialize in addiction....once you figure out its not about the pills but about the very way we think that needs to change you can begin to recover...my last detox I was 47 it was by far the worst one but I got threw it and life is a beautiful plase again...I wish you well on your journey back to the living....good luck and God bless.......Gnarly      
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Age may make it a little protracted but I think that's all.  I really don't know. Using myself as a barometer,I don't think my withdrawal was any worse or better and I'm maybe a bit older than you are.   I tapered (had to) and I did it over a long period of time.

Generally,it's length of use and amounts that are the best indicator of how things will go.

On an up note, what you're feeling now you can subtract from what you'll feel when you jump off from one pill per day.  That's how it turned out to be with me,anyway.

Most importantly, try not to focus so much on this process!  Accept it as this is how it is right now,it won't be this way forever,and just get busy with your day!   You do need to get some exercise,though!  I know I hated going to the gym in the condition I was in at first
( I weighed 100 pounds,no color,no nothing!!) but eventually started swimming every day and just didn't think about the pills. It gets very easy to do; so much of this whole thing is mental!

You'll get this done...you've got so many great things on your side!!
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I have not snorted anything, and yes that is hard to do, no one could imagine how hard not to do one well driving down the road, especially on long trips. I know it is to quick.......but i want this all done by the end of the month, i know maybe a pipe dream, but if i have to be sick i have to be sick, i want to get my dose low enough that it isnt as bad as last time i tried, that was horrible, my arm would just flail around out of absolutely no where, everyone found it funny except me, I have a workshop to build that i can stay busy with, i would do the gym but i dont think they want me looking like i do when WD,,,,,,,,,,,lol,,,,,,,, I am keeping a positive attitude that i can do this, the body says no way, buti think i can and will suceed at this. one way or another, Im in my 40's, does age make the wd harder or is it the same for all?
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Hey...this is too fast and that's why you feel awful!  Think about this:  When you drop that one pill,you're cutting your dose by over 30%. That's way too much. That's why I suggested going down by halfs.   Plus,you need to stay at the "new" dose for at least a week while you adjust!  Now,when you drop down to one pill,you'll be cutting your dose by 50%!!!   Again,too much!  

Tapering is a numbers game and it can work but just think about it!  I know you're anxious to get this done but you need to keep in mind that your body will act up if you don't do this slowly...and in small amounts.

I'm really proud of you for staying away from the snorting...I know that's very difficult!
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I am down to 2 a day, i take one in the am and then 1 at bed, the afternoon ***** a bit, but it is getting better i guess, i take the one at bed and sleep well, i still do not crush them or snort them, i swallow them whole still, wends i am trying to go down to 1 a day and see what happens........keep my fingers crossed.....
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Well so far today is no better, im not sick but just generaly feels like ****, my muscle all ache, but i ate it and will wait to bedtime to take the second one, kep my fingers crossed as i need to visit my mom today, not looking forward to it. I really wanted to lay on thr couch and do thing.....lol.....
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If you stick to your plan you can make it. Only take what you need so take it in the morning and see how you feel. If you don't feel to bad try to hold off and your taper will go alot better. You were taking quite a bit so it may take a while to get to 1 pill but hang in there like Vicki said be patient. Don't fall into the trap of not taking any then because you feel horrible you take more. Your body needs to get use to not having the high doses you were getting. Especially since you were snorting them you were getting the dose all at once. When you swallow them they will work over time so keep it up and you will make it through. God Bless---Rick
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I remember the back n forth days and they did suc* - good chance tomorrow will be a little easier - and really great that you stayed at the 2 yesterday so that's something to feel good about!
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Today sucked,,,hope tomorrow is better.......
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well today has been fun...lol...noticed the drop from 3 to 2 but stuck it out looking forward to bed soon, tomorrow is a new day....one day at a time right?
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woke up this morning, not to bad, wouldnt jump hoops but okay, today i go down to 2 today, but i got a busy day ahead of me, so i should be okay,,,,hope everyone has the best day you can,,,,,,,
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Hey just read your post and through the thread. I think youve been given great advice, just wanted to add one thing about your friends. It sounds like they are also addicts, and it doesnt mean they are bad people, but right now they are still lost in their addictions. Meaning they are all consumed by pills and using and getting more and avoiding WD etc. Addiction can make people selfish and tunnel visioned into getthing their drugs and it sounds like your friends are still trapped in their addictions. Its great you are trying to stop, best choice you can make, dont resent your friends, but for you right now you have to cut them out, hopefully down the road they will see how well you are doing and you being sober can show them its a possibility that there is hope and maybe inspire one of them to get clean too. ANyways, just wanted to add this because at first I had the same issues with my friends, and resented them, but I had to realize that they are lost in the same addiction I was, and they still are. Their actions and behaviors now arent who they truly are, its their addiction controlling them. Just wnated to offer another persepctive on all that. Good luck with what youre doing!
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I appreciate all thank-you, talk to you tomorrow
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Thanks...i appreciate all
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Okay great I'll look for you later tomorrow.  :)
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I have a good job, a great family, and am determined to beat this, something so small controlled my life for so long, and ive had enough, no more.........i wont loose focus, tomorrow i have a super busy day, actually have to travel for acouple hours each way and then my plans well at where i will be, so i should not be thinking of it at all, see how it goes tomorrow, i will post as soon as i return home and let ya all know how it is going...but again thank you for all your help....
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A week sounds good.  And the aftercare with therapy sounds even better.  You're on the right track here lovedafam - if you don't lose focus you'll be okay.  :)
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I understand, should i take the week or longer? i know one day at a time, and i do try that, each and every moment, it is getting easier, the only stress i have is work, only because he has been so good to me, and was so understanding, once that stress is gone then nothing else matters. I appreciate all you have said as well as Vicki595, you both have been great, I am positive i can do this, i have already told my friends i was taking some holidays so would not be home, this way they dont stop in, i have paid all the bills as not to get calls that may stress me out, i have ensured the rest of the month is mine, the only one knowing anything is you guys and my boss, I will keep ya posted, i took the afternoon dose(last day) and  felt okay when i did it, but was starting to get edgy and restless, my last dose will be around 11pm tonight, then tomorrow just 2 doses for acouple days,let the system get used to that then down to one, then good bye addiction, as for the mind, i may see a shrink or something not sure, just may syat here and talk to you guys, i understand that when done there will still be some mental shi" that clings to ya but i think i can beat that just remember all i have been through to get to a clean life....thank-you both very much    L&R
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