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kicked off of 78mg MEHADONE...HELP
my husband and i were unjustly kicked out of aegis medical systems methadone clinic..weve been clean from herion and street opiates for 5 years.....in the methadone clinic for the 5 years and were both on 78ml and theyve kicked us out no detox nothing just cold turkey...todays the 1st day without taking it what can we do to make things easier??
we have two 8 and 7 yr old boys and i work a part time job. if i go to a doc u think thyll give me methadone pills to detox me off? my health is bad as it is i hve circulations issues in my right leg where it turns purple blue at times and im scared nervous dont know what to do or how to make this and easy transition.
we have two 8 and 7 yr old boys and i work a part time job. if i go to a doc u think thyll give me methadone pills to detox me off? my health is bad as it is i hve circulations issues in my right leg where it turns purple blue at times and im scared nervous dont know what to do or how to make this and easy transition.
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Hi...well the liquid intake is critical to detoxing it flushes out your system without it your symptoms will only get worst....I recamend a case of gatoraid to start with if your not big on drinking get a shot glass and drink a shot every 10min this will keep you hydrated I cannot over emphasize this enough the kidneys play a huge role in detoxing your blood gatoraid is good it taste well and has the electolights in it to keep you replenished if your tight on money walmart has a generic that is just as good a lot cheeper the key to sucsessful detoxing is not only flushing your system it is also eating corectly NO red meat for a wile chicken is good as is fish lean protien grilled or baked you want to keep inflammation down that is what give you the bone aches there is a lot more to this then meets the eye blueberrys are great but pricy at least around here no alachol and limit even over the counter meds your trying to purge your system of everything this is the goal...now im not a marter for pain ibuprofen is preferable to acetaminophen it is ezer on the liver you must understand the body is under a huge stress load wile doing this even the small things you can do help this is not one in leaps and bounds but in baby steps....walmart also has a cheep whey protein shake mix it is 16 bucks for a 2lb can just a scoop full to a glass of milk the chocolate flavor is good and it will give you the raw protein for energy and a dose of the amino acids to heal the brain 2 a day is what I recamend keep posting get the gatoraid first if money is tight a case for you and your hubby and a cheep timer for the 10min intervals keep posting for support.......Gnarly
Hey just checking how you and the hubby are holding up???? any way post when you can..........Gnarly
Hi There! :)
Huge Props to you & your man on Day 11! I know it's a nightmare right now but I promise you it will start to ease up soon.
Man, Clinics..you gotta' love 'em! ;( 'Nuff said..best not to focus on that & go off on a rant. That's the past & no matter how brutally they did this to you -- it happened & you can turn it around. Frankly, it's a blessing in disguise. (Seriously).
I detoxed from 140mgs. down to 28 (when I jumped) a little over 2 yrs. & 4 mos. ago. I was on my last clinic for 20 yrs. I have little recollection of the first month. I tried to mitigate my symptoms by self-medicating with just about everything but opiates so I totally understand where your @. Please though, I'd like to caution you that Vyvanse & Adderall are both schedule ll stimulants (well, let's call a spade a spade -- speed). They're exactly what you guys don't need right now. Acute withdrawal lasts a lot longer with Methadone because of it's long half life. It stores in your bones & fat & needs time to leach from your tissues. If you do speed, you're going to make your detox a lot harder. It exhausts your adrenals & floods your body with stress hormones. That's exactly what you're trying to counteract right now. Sleep is so important for you right now & we all know how those drugs affect that! Just the detox alone puts us in a 'fight or flight' mode. Basically, you're trying to get all the crap out of your body & to let your brain start to heal so that you can feel better. (Also, as you already mentioned -- you might very well be trading one addiction for another). Oh, yeah, and it's contra-indicated for folks with depression or anxiety!
I too Hate Benzos! (the clinic & an ex of mine who had an issue with them really turned me off to them). I know that sleep is a precious, elusive commodity right now but please, know that if you continue with benzos (even sporadically) while you're detoxing & then discontinue them, there's a special sleepless hell awaiting. I know, I used them off & on for a couple of months in the beginning. I noticed my tolerance starting to build & kicked them to the curb. I literally didn't sleep more than 1.75 hrs. per night for a month & a half after that (in my 3rd & 4th month off 'done). Just hoping that my experience might be of benefit to you guys.
In terms of your guy, your drive can come back with a vengeance shortly after detox (especially for men). I think it takes a little while longer for women but when it returns -- lookout! :) In terms of the pain & tingling he's experiencing peripherally, I'm no doctor but I'd like to point out that those two stimulants are Strong vasoconstrictors -- meaning they cause your blood vessels to narrow increasing pressure & causing less Oxygen to reach your extremities. Also, remember, you were numbed on M'done to a great deal of what was going on in your bodies (& also your hearts & minds). When we come off -- sensation -- including pain tends to be 'hyper'. This will ease. If he feels that something is truly wrong, he should go in to an urgent care or ER.
I'm glad you're @ least trying to get some popsicles down you -- as Gnarly said, Hydration is sooo important in all this. Truly, your body needs all the help it can get right now. If you want some additional nutritional advice, I'd be happy to give it to you. (Okay, I'll stop myself right there & shut up about that :)
Please, keep the faith -- you guys are warriors -- Truly -- My hat is so off to you! Sometimes things that seem bad actually turn out to be total blessings. If you stay the course, I promise you that this is one of them!! (Besides, who the hell wants to go back to the clinic, eh?) You never know how strong you can be until you have to. It's in you. You talked about being on the streets. I hear you...If you survived that you ARE strong enough to do this. It just takes time & patience & some game-changing & new thinking in order not to go back. Let's just get you through this first, though, eh? Congrats again on 11 Days of this soul-crushing drug. Keep your eye on the prize!
We're here & we're pulling for you :)
Huge Props to you & your man on Day 11! I know it's a nightmare right now but I promise you it will start to ease up soon.
Man, Clinics..you gotta' love 'em! ;( 'Nuff said..best not to focus on that & go off on a rant. That's the past & no matter how brutally they did this to you -- it happened & you can turn it around. Frankly, it's a blessing in disguise. (Seriously).
I detoxed from 140mgs. down to 28 (when I jumped) a little over 2 yrs. & 4 mos. ago. I was on my last clinic for 20 yrs. I have little recollection of the first month. I tried to mitigate my symptoms by self-medicating with just about everything but opiates so I totally understand where your @. Please though, I'd like to caution you that Vyvanse & Adderall are both schedule ll stimulants (well, let's call a spade a spade -- speed). They're exactly what you guys don't need right now. Acute withdrawal lasts a lot longer with Methadone because of it's long half life. It stores in your bones & fat & needs time to leach from your tissues. If you do speed, you're going to make your detox a lot harder. It exhausts your adrenals & floods your body with stress hormones. That's exactly what you're trying to counteract right now. Sleep is so important for you right now & we all know how those drugs affect that! Just the detox alone puts us in a 'fight or flight' mode. Basically, you're trying to get all the crap out of your body & to let your brain start to heal so that you can feel better. (Also, as you already mentioned -- you might very well be trading one addiction for another). Oh, yeah, and it's contra-indicated for folks with depression or anxiety!
I too Hate Benzos! (the clinic & an ex of mine who had an issue with them really turned me off to them). I know that sleep is a precious, elusive commodity right now but please, know that if you continue with benzos (even sporadically) while you're detoxing & then discontinue them, there's a special sleepless hell awaiting. I know, I used them off & on for a couple of months in the beginning. I noticed my tolerance starting to build & kicked them to the curb. I literally didn't sleep more than 1.75 hrs. per night for a month & a half after that (in my 3rd & 4th month off 'done). Just hoping that my experience might be of benefit to you guys.
In terms of your guy, your drive can come back with a vengeance shortly after detox (especially for men). I think it takes a little while longer for women but when it returns -- lookout! :) In terms of the pain & tingling he's experiencing peripherally, I'm no doctor but I'd like to point out that those two stimulants are Strong vasoconstrictors -- meaning they cause your blood vessels to narrow increasing pressure & causing less Oxygen to reach your extremities. Also, remember, you were numbed on M'done to a great deal of what was going on in your bodies (& also your hearts & minds). When we come off -- sensation -- including pain tends to be 'hyper'. This will ease. If he feels that something is truly wrong, he should go in to an urgent care or ER.
I'm glad you're @ least trying to get some popsicles down you -- as Gnarly said, Hydration is sooo important in all this. Truly, your body needs all the help it can get right now. If you want some additional nutritional advice, I'd be happy to give it to you. (Okay, I'll stop myself right there & shut up about that :)
Please, keep the faith -- you guys are warriors -- Truly -- My hat is so off to you! Sometimes things that seem bad actually turn out to be total blessings. If you stay the course, I promise you that this is one of them!! (Besides, who the hell wants to go back to the clinic, eh?) You never know how strong you can be until you have to. It's in you. You talked about being on the streets. I hear you...If you survived that you ARE strong enough to do this. It just takes time & patience & some game-changing & new thinking in order not to go back. Let's just get you through this first, though, eh? Congrats again on 11 Days of this soul-crushing drug. Keep your eye on the prize!
We're here & we're pulling for you :)
ahahaha ya thats what i thought but we are managing .
went to er and despite the judgmental nurse who I QUICKLY shut up trying to treet us like junkies....**** i dont care if we are or once where i wasent there for opiods!!!! ok anyway we got colidine and ativan which is helping alot.....i was reluctant but i have been also using CBD only marijuana and it helps me sleep and with my mood..so i think this is gonna be procedure for the rest of the time its been 11days hope it goes by fast.
went to er and despite the judgmental nurse who I QUICKLY shut up trying to treet us like junkies....**** i dont care if we are or once where i wasent there for opiods!!!! ok anyway we got colidine and ativan which is helping alot.....i was reluctant but i have been also using CBD only marijuana and it helps me sleep and with my mood..so i think this is gonna be procedure for the rest of the time its been 11days hope it goes by fast.
hi and ty for the support! so we got the clonidine and they gave us ativan as well.....they help but still feel like crap!!!! its been about 11 days and the thought of 80 more scars the **** outta me but i know it will be over soon in comparison to the big picture lol.....we will continue to stay positive but its not easy lol this site sure does help thoe that is when i motivate my self to even get on.
man 150mg that is a narly high dose. i am also bi polar and depression but not to bad i live life without medication for it but would prolly be in a better state emotionally during this dt if i was on correct meds for that issue. so far the worst for me is this emotional rollercoaster i just want to be normal again. i wish i could afford that peocedure where they run clean blood threw your system and take all of the toxins out. thatd b nice.
i think the clonadeen has kicked in as my back is not acheing as much. its bearable and my blood pressure has droped from 96 to 76 ill probably try to get enuff strength to get in the shower within an hr. showers do help me feel better but ive always enjoyed my showers and the fresh feeling afterwards.
also what i said about how ive never been big on drinking water unless its flavored do you think im okay with my popsicles and 1 vitamen water a day for hydration?
i think the clonadeen has kicked in as my back is not acheing as much. its bearable and my blood pressure has droped from 96 to 76 ill probably try to get enuff strength to get in the shower within an hr. showers do help me feel better but ive always enjoyed my showers and the fresh feeling afterwards.
also what i said about how ive never been big on drinking water unless its flavored do you think im okay with my popsicles and 1 vitamen water a day for hydration?
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