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[keepitsimplestupid]

Hi all.  I've beenl urking but this is my first post.
I think I have dangerously crossed over into the full blown addict territory.  I've probably been there for a long time but was afraid to admit it.
My story much like everyone else's starts with me taking a few 7.5 vicodins due to a car accident and herniated discs.  I began to misuse thm.  This went on for over a yaer before I realized that I HAD to have them or I would get sick.  Up until that point if I had them, I would most deinitely take them but I would't exactly go throuigh w/d either.
So from there\e I found a new dr willing to write me a script for 5 mg percs and from there 10 mg percs.  At one point and for  a total of 4-7 months I would take up to 30 possibly even 40 10 mg percs a day - so that's say 300 mg per day.
I've maaged to wean down to a few 7.5 vics a day and planned on starting Suboxone for a very quick detox but decided to put it off for a few days to enjoy my weekend with a few more highs.  I know, retarded.  
I couldn't get the 7.5's.  I could only get 40mg oxycontins.  I had never done those before.  I did a few, and have been doing about 4-5 a day for 3 days now with a full bottle of Suboxone next to me.
I do plan on staying sober with NA and counseling after I finish the Sub but I'm concerned as of right now and I have a few questions that hopefully someone can answer.
1.  I have swelling in my feet an akles.  i noticed it a little yesterday but today it's rather bad and a bit painful.  could this be a reaction? or could it be a sign of liver damage?
2.  how long do you need to wait after coming off extended release oxycontins to start sub? i know with the others it's at least 12-15 hours.
Thank you!
I just wanted to say that I am really scared about who I've become in the last 3 days on the oxy's.
I  find myself drifting off to sleep and losing time even when i'm standing up.  i haven't lied down to go to bed in 3 nights.  maybe i've gotten 3 hours total  i have smoked so many cigarettes i'm disgusted.  i've also dropped so many i need a new carpet now from the burns.
i guess it's the closest thing to heroin out there and i'm horrfied i've ever let it go this far.

[IBKleen]

Good..so glad to hear that. So, I guessing that the doctor gave it to you when you were on Vic's and that is why you don't have instructions.

I did the Sub off a short acting med and I waited 15 hours. I really don;t have the answer for you, but be careful. Did you go to the website? they may have the answer for you. Also, there is another good site naabt.org. I think you may find the answer there if no one else here knows.

Sunday is always a slow day here so be patient and check back.

Good luck..I hope it works out.

[keepitsimplestupid]

No, I got it from my dr I was just wondering if I had to wait longer if I had been taking oxycontin whereas before I as simply taking vicodin.

[IBKleen]

Hello and Welcome!

No..you do not have to take Subutex first.....I don't know where that came from.

I am a little concerned about where you got the Suboxone and why you aren't doing it under a doctor's care. This is a great site for one addict helping another, but asking a question like that is almost like giving out medical advise, and that gets a little scary. How are you going to know what dose to take? There are a lot of questions there. If you don;t plan on seeing a doctor, then please go to Suboxone.com and read, read, read. Make sure you understand what you are doing. I did a short detox with it and it helped me, but I was under a doctor's care with it, so I had a place to go should I have a reaction.

I don't know about the swelling of the feet hun. My ankles swell a lot but it is because I have heart disease. I will say this...if it keeps up, please have it looked at.

You are taking a big step in the right direction. I wish you a lot of luck. NA..very good choice..counseling..yes, yes, yes. And stay here. There are a lot of good, kind people here.

[Victim of Surgery]

Suboxone is still an opiate. It just works differently and mimics the effects some how. You can go to suboxone dot com for a full explanation. I too started with pain killers for herniated discs, surgery, etc. I never took an extra one, never got high and never enjoyed them. I stopped when I was told to and after only 5 week of being on them, went into full withdrawal. I've been dealing with the withdrawal for more than a year now. Which means, I have been SICK for more than a year. I started suboxone about
4 months ago. While it made the withdrawal from the hydrocodone less severe, it didn't erase it. I tapered off the suboxone from only 1mg per day, gradually down to 0.125mg per day. It's been 21 days since my last 1/4 of a pill and I am STILL SICK! The doctor is amazed and insisted I was using something else, which I am not. I can't even drink a beer without getting sick. That's why I am looking for a rehab facility. They told me I might have to go back on the suboxone, stay in rehab for 28 days and stay on the suboxone for another year. It's a frigging nightmare. Take my advice -- you are playing with fire. Don't dig yourself into a deeper hole you may never get out of.

[Victim of Surgery]

You have to be in withdrawal to start suboxone and I think you have to start with subutex first. Don't think suboxone is a cure. It ISN'T! I went to tour a rehab facility today to handle withdrawal from suboxone, which I took to handle withdrawal from hydrocodone. I don't know anything about your symptoms but I can guarantee that you can't do this alone. Don't take the suboxone without a doctor's help. If you do, you are just trading one addiction for another!