need to help a friend off smack, subbies?

[gazzat123]

hope someone out there can help. I have recently fallen for a girl who I have found out has a serious heroin addiction. she predominantly smokes it but has occasionally injected. she really wants to get clean & I believe her as I can see the person behind the drug. she has a son who was taken away from her & needs to be clean to stand any chance of being involved in his life. this is her main motivation, another reason I know she means it.
She has asked if I can get her subbies to help her get off & I really want to help but need some advice.
should it be subutex or soboxone to start, will these actually help & how can I get them in the uk.
she doesn't want to go to the Dr's as this will admit to the authorities she is still using and put pay to any hope she has of seeing her son.
please help it's killing me seeing her hurting herself so bad every day & I know she is so much better than what she does.

thanks in advance

[lola200677]

Hey Gaz
I do not believe that there's the vivitrol shot for FREE in UK BUT it's worth asking about as it's also an option :)

The buprenorphine alone is stronger at blocking the opiate receptors than the naloxone in suboxone. They jus put that extra substance in there 'to prevent drug users IVing it' as they claim it 'will put the user into withdrawal'  
However it has some nasty side effects I have heard people get PLUS apparently drug users claim to have IVed it anyway so it's basically a bit of a supposed useless addition to the buprenorphine. But I'm not an ex-IVer so I wouldn't know from experience as I used to do pills. It's just from the insane amount of reading I did whilst in bed tapering off the subutex. By the way they may not give you the brand subutex as it's more expensive - I was only given the generic (which is less good than the brand but that's prob what she'd get)
Good luck to you xx

[Deb179]

Good Luck !!!!

[gazzat123]

well I'm gonna have to drop off line now.
seeing the girl tomorrow I let y'all no where we're at after

[gazzat123]

oh yeah and makes feel good to have made at least someone smile thanks

[gazzat123]

thanks Deb & congrats to you & your son

[Deb179]

Do you have the vivitrol shot there Lola ?  BTW congrats to you !!!
Gaz...not sure how things work in uk, but that could be another option...once a month verses daily. But definitely  some kind of therapy.  My son couldn't do rehab (too much drug talk @ the time )
As for the love thing jifmoc is right too....it depends on the situation.
I had to seperate with love from my son,  so we both could work on our own recoveries.  
Many times long time relationships (where they're too comfortable ) might need to do the same.  With that being said a new love at the right time can make a huge difference.  
My son was 3 months clean when he met the love of his life....the credit goes to her.  She gave him a reason to fight on and STAY clean.   He's going to ask her to marry him this Christmas (happy mama here). ..so yes...love can make a difference.
don't give up on her (you 2) just yet,  but also protect you too.  
You bring a smile to my face.  
Your not alone !!!