wating to know the about methadone? after the phiscal part??

[jimgreg]

ive been on methadone for 5 yrs now..up and down on doses in these 5 yrs..im on it threw pain management..so ive detoxed myself before..what i have to do is going to be a *****..im bipolar 1.im having anxitys over doing to many c.n.s. meds together..im also on xanax at low  gpdoc dose 2.5 mgs in divided doses of 0.5 mgs 5 aday..so ive got to 0 mgs of methadone in my past stayed off of it for 30 days after the phiscal  withdrawals..but then waited 30 days i was a freakin zombie..so if i go threw this again how long does it take to get more motivated.. BE VERY  BLUNT I NEED TO KNOW TO MAKE  MY LIFE STYLE CHANGES...i need the methadone for my pain control but i worrie to much about the repository depression wile on multiple  cns meds....im on 2 now been on them both the same time 5 yrs on xanax 5 yrs on methadone..i was on klonpin 12 yrs prior to the xanax..i have known problems with this mix.. my fathers onthe same mix  we go to same doc...WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS DETOC  CT MYSELF GET THREW THIS WAITE 14 DAYS AFTER OFF COMNPLETLEY..THEN TELL PAIN M WHART I DID AND WHY I DID...THEN ASK TO BE PUT ON PERKS AT 4 10,S ADAY TO CONTROL MY KNEE PAINS IN BOTH KNEES AND LOWER BACK..THE RESON BEING THE PERKS IS THEY DONT HANG AROUND IN UR BLOOD WHY  YOU NSLEEP..SO THE RESPATORY DEPOPRESHION WILL LESSEON A GREAT DEAL..I CAN  REGULATE THIS WERE THE METHADONE I CANT..AND I HATE THE METHADONE NEVER DID WANT TO BE ON IT..IM ON A MUCH LOWER DOSE THEN BEFORE WAS ON OPS AT 160 MGS 2 YRS AGO..CAME DOWN MYSELF ON IT..WAS HELL..

my mind is needing the bipolar meds bad..this way if im on the perks i can control the pain alittle bit and not have to Bea zombie..cuz even if i was on the bp meds and no opiates in me i would still be a zombie..this way i control the meds..ive never been a addict in my life.i never abused my meds either..im on them for pain only..if i didnt have to go threw the mind part of it all i wouldn't worrie just detox and be done with it  but would stil have the pain to deal with..

so whats going to happen when i give the meth enough time to get out..the perks will take over then..or will there still be some things to mess with my mind with the absence of the methadone?????  ive done this before and they put me on the perks.. done it twice..but im a good patient never calling in needing more i always been on time with my meds..im doing this either with them or without them..what i also need to know is what happens after 45 days ago buy..will i be like a zombie for monthes..cuz of ther missing drugs??i use to drink alot i been off of it 6 yrs now..so i know what that felt like but i never craved alot being i was on this at the point..so let me have the       BLUNT SIDE..THANKS ALL JAMES

[cattalina]

Hi James - I don't have any real personal experience with methadone or pain control options. I would like to start off by saying this - the fact that you are not an addict is great, I believe that gives you an advantage over this situation that you wouldn't have had if you were. That said - you've been on the opiates/benzos for a long time so addict or not, chemical changes have taken place in your brain over this time. You will go thru exactly what we addicts go thru - depression, anxiety, etc etc. Methdone synthetically creates chemicals in the brain, in great amounts, and affects how the brain functions naturally. Since you are putting these chemicals into your brain thru the methadone, your brain stops producing these chemicals on their own. When you stop taking the dones, your brain is left with NO production of these chemicals - it takes time for the brain to reach a 'normal' functioning point, it can actually take up to 2 years. Essentially, you will have a chemical imbalance, which can cause physical and psychological issues to take place. Since you have a preexisting mental health diagnosis being bipolar, these issues will become exaggerated. Be aware of this ahead of time so you can plan accordingly - maybe starting a mood stablizer and anti-anxiety med now will help you thru this. As far as the pain management aspect, would it not be better to have a doctor on board before you ct the methadone if you plan to go right onto the percs? Once you ct the dones, 14 days later you'll still be going thru wds... I'm not quite sure I understand why you're doing this, especially doing this and not telling the PM clinic... Either way - good luck with what you're doing!

[mtgoat911]

i really think you should try to find an inpatient facility that specializes in dual-diagnoses
there is a way to detox at home but the bi=polar will complicate things, may end up costing you your life
i am willing to find a place that can take you, if you would like

[kim715]

Hi James.Just to give you a little history about me.I'm a recovering addict.My doc was vicodin.I was on methadone for a year and a half,never took anything else while I was on it.I went c/t off of 25 mgs and I have been totally clean from everything for a little over a year.I'm only telling you this because I don't know anything about your other meds so I don't know if they play a part in how you feel when you stop the methadone and I'm not sure if once you start taking the perks it will make a difference in how long you feel like a zombie.I hope that makes sense.Anyway to be totally honest the time it took me to feel totally not like a zombie anymore.I would have to say 2 months.At 6 weeks things were better for me,but it took a full 2 months before I felt as if the fog had lifted.Hope this helps.Good luck to you.I will keep you in my prayers and hope you get your pain under control.All the best...Kim