You know how sometimes you hear stories of people getting approached by dangerous animals, and the animal just sniffs them and leaves them alone?
I think it's an evolutionary trait/defense mechanism.
Also, I am going to try eliminating gluten (I love bread) and sugar for the next week to see if this helps. I already take liquid chlorophyll, probiotics and fiber. I think that our stomachs are not breaking down food well and this is causing the smell and/or irritation issue. Also, then it affects us mentally because of the way people react around us and this can cause severe anxiety. Hope this helps:)
Also, I am going to try eliminating gluten (I love bread) and sugar for the next week to see if this helps. I already take liquid chlorophyll, probiotics and fiber. I think that our stomachs are not breaking down food well and this is causing the smell and/or irritation issue. Also, then it affects us mentally because of the way people react around us and this can cause severe anxiety. Hope this helps:)
I also agree with deathgod its a gift that we have that effects others by our mental and thought process. Its to the point i say "IT" as if what we have is being referred a person or thing . . if we give IT more energy by being in a paranoid state or mind thinking we smell bad or its going to happen than guess what . . we make it happen . everyone who has the same symptoms needs to come together and really come to a conclusion because its not fair for people to commit suicide for their own insecurrities especially when they have no idea why they are being inseccure
It's very fascinating that this is a worldwide phenomenon.
Russia, China, Ghana, America, all parts of the globe finds people afflicted by this.
That tells me that it is not related to diet, people in Russia eat completely different thinks from people in Africa, etc.
It must be mental, it has to be.
Are you someone who is on the anti-social side? Do you tend to shy away from other people?
I personally only affect my officemates when I have fear in my heart. Whether its fear of a deadline, fear of discipline from a superior. Ive been sitting here reading peoples comments and it made me feel really good to have others experience the same stuff I feel. My coworker right next to me didn't cough at all.
Then I read a comment of someone basically saying they were at wits end and were considering suicide. This made my heart skip a beat, and not 10 seconds later my coworker starts coughing really badly. I began joking with her about some nonsensical thing and she stopped coughing.
PATM seems to be related to your emotional state, your mental state. I suspect the diet changes and tests people are having done are just placebos. Going to a doctor who doesnt know what is wrong with you just makes your fear and anxiety worsen. STOP SEEING MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.
Talk with a family member or friend.
stop masturbating for 3-6 months and see the result! ill guarantee you just do it,and you will see..
Hello guys,
I am also having a similar symptom where my colleagues will cough at least once in two minutes when I entered the office. Some will not cough at first and takes some time before they do. This also happens anywhere the room is enclosed such as a seminar room or halls. Some people might suggest that may have been a prank, but who plays prank for 2 years plus. Anyway, when I silently holds my breath, it seems the coughing stops for while, as if I am breathing out irritants into the air.
It all started with a simple normal cough around January 2014 and as usual I just went to the clinic and receive the normal medication such as antibiotics and expectorant. However the cough continued, I kept going to the clinics until they provided higher and higher doses of antibiotics (such as Curam625 mg and once, 1 gram antibiotic). After 4 months taking the medications, it seems the cough wears off, but I notice that anyone talking with me will cough. I did an X ray and there were white spots detected. Its probably due to my smoking habits, the doctor said. About three months later, I stopped smoking at all and hoped that it will remove any kind of infection. Somehow the "other people coughing" continues.
In the morning I also will need to spit out thick phlegms which is yellowish or brownish at times. Occasionally I can see blood in the phlegm. The longer I waited and holding the sputum inside, the thicker and darker the colour it wiil be. At times, it was so thick I had to use a nebulizer with salt water to push them out. Even saline solution has no effect cause its so thick.
I pity my officemates who,out of 20;
2-4 will cough badly, I mean really bad like they are trying vomit out their internal organs or something
3-5 will cough like a normal cough
3-4 will seem to try clear their throat every minute and then
I have met with a number of respiratory expert who dismiss my case such as allergic rhinitis, asthma, acid reflux, post-nasal drip, and one even referred me to a psychiatrist listening to my story. I have been given/taken:
1)budenide
2)symbicort
3)avamyst
4)relvar
5)cetirizine
6)ranitidine
7)pantoprazole
8)berodual
All with no affects.
I have done some procedures such as Bronchoscopy,ENT scope, Gastrosopy, spirometry and further tests such as Tuberculosis, H pylori, NTM, Fungal, hepatitis, HIV, all turned out negative. Doctors say I looked too healthy to be infected and shows no common symptoms of being affected by viral, bacterial or fungal infection. If I am having any kind of infection, I should be having loss of appetite, lots of fever, and most probably be dead by now since its almost three years since first detected. My x ray and ct scan also shows nothing significant except for a really small granular in the chest, and gastroscopy shows that I am having a minor hernia which is probably the cause of the sputum build up. Finally an expert gives me a clean bill of health stating I am as healthy as an ox. Its hard to prove to the experts that I am causing other people to cough since the experts are not affected or coughing during the appointment.
The sad thing is that, although my family, my friends, my coworkers are coughing badly, somehow I am not coughing or rarely does so. Except for the continuous build up of phlegm and sputum in the throat, I rarely cough as badly as others nearby myself.
I am starting to doubt my own insanity, and its really hard especially when seeing your colleagues and family members coughing when I am nearby them. I too have been distancing myself from social life and sleeps in different room from the wife and kids.
I am hoping that someone can tell me why this happened and how to cure it. If this happens for a another couple of years, I am starting to consider suicide as the last option.Hopefully this long note will serve as a guidance for anyone else encountering the same symptoms.
I experienced the same thing. I'm scared that this will be the fate of me. I have so many goals and dreams and I feel depression from this creeping up on me. I wish there was help
Nobody is mentioning the ejecting wiggly Fibers..glitter? People actually getn symptoms over the phone..you video call a friend and everyone around them is itching coughing and they could be 800 miles away **** sounds demonic we gotta have faith
ifeeldoomed correctly noticed that people yawn.
The most interesting thing is that people can cough when you talk to them on the phone. And even those who are close to the person on the other side of the connection.
In Russia, too, there are people around which the surrounding people cough, sneeze, itch, sick. Doctors dismiss such "sick" and referred to a psychiatrist. In the Ukraine even made a TV show about one such woman. Then the show was organized medical check-up for her. A medical examination revealed nothing, she was sent to a psychiatrist, but she refused. I have a similar problem for 6 years. At first I didn't even notice, but then it went rampant around challenge, sneezing and scratching. I was in shock and didn't know what to do. Didn't even know how to explain to the doctors. And they laughed and were sent to a psychiatrist. Then I found in the Internet on Russian forums a lot of people with the same problems. A couple of people seem to have recovered, starting to live a healthy lifestyle. Me yet nothing helped, but I know about how bare to reduce the symptoms. The less I sweat, the better ventilated the room, the others easier. Sorry for my English, my native Russian translated Yandex.ru.
so im not alone just started search google today smh.. ive been suffering this 4 years now its started when i reach 18 years old now im 22 and no life becaue of this ********
I too have PATM and have been living with it for years. No one really coughs but most people sneeze, get itchy eyes, nose and blow their noses. When I have been on a plane for hours people have violent sneezing attacks throughout the whole flight.I think stress adds to it as I drink a lot in social situations and then I either don't care as much or I get relaxed enough that it does not happen but it sounds as if Sugar adds to this and alcohol has a lot of sugar in it. I am going to try avoiding all sugar and taking 2000 IU of Vitamin D3 a day.
I too have had thoughts of ending it all from PATM,drinking every day and living such an isolated life as I cannot even have a relationship.
Possibly human dander? Just like pets we shed skin cells. In the hair it is dandruff. I noticed the same reaction sometimes. Made the connection to possible human dander (deadskin cells) when in the hospital after major surgery lacking a regular shower, my legs were itchy and I used a hair brush to scratch my leg like crazy! It looked like I had almost 1/2 inch of foamy loose skin on my leg with some looking like dust in the air. Now I am back to taking a shower 2 or 3 times a day and use lotion. This seems to be working for me. Hoe this helps.
please talk to me im at my wits end and you sound like someone who has walked in my footsteps not insane not onndrugs would be happy to share your experiences with this cursed disease, misunderstood5
I have been plagued by this for 15 years it has consumed my life I have been told everything from IM on drugs IM mentally ill I live and smell clean MY breath is fine I challenge anyone to sit next to me in a closed room for less than a minute and I Will bet my life my bank account that they will either cough ,sneeze or rub their eyes from irritation im in my 40's and just avoid people as much as i can ive had every blood,urine and medical test I was convinced i might of cursed myself through involvement in black magic as a young person but that just puts me in the CRAZY bucket, so it might one day become to much and end my life prematurely but i will mask it in medication until then im educated but can not hold a job because of this fkn SAD,Lm.
Hello there I scrolled through the responses on here and I have a similar issue people tend to cough around me, some even cover their noses when I walk by them, and before anyone starts saying it's in my head, it's not. Some of my past experiences include that one time in high school a girl in my classroom approached me after class and hinted "Hey I think you got some sort of super power...that makes people cough...." as she kindly put it or my teacher who requested a drug test from me cause, he though I was a drug addict to the point, he brought up my body odor in a meeting between student and teachers literally he said "the way you smell" as his reasonable suspicion of why he though I was a druggie, or the girl who refused to sit next to me when the new seating order was made and when asked why? she said "he smells bad" . I went to my local doctor I told him my stories and experiences and requested a TMAU test he never heard of this test but suggested I may have H pylori so I got tested and turns out he was right I did have it and SIBO as he told me(small intestinal bacteria overgrowth). He explained to me that the h pylori was giving off large amounts of ammonia in my breath and odor which could irritate the throat and noses of those around me, that made more sense then 'your crazy or, it's in your head" so I got some antibiotics and they did help but I feel the infection has returned and plan to go get tested again within the next month if possible. So if anyone here suffers from similar symptoms I recommend you go get a h pylori test done, if possible do what I did and discuss it over a routine physical exam.
very very same situation, but I am a Asian girl. I learned English try to find a way out from that disease. I have been suffered that for ten years, it's a long time for me. The only thing I can do is try to forget it, believe it will be cured itself someday. I think I could be a actor, because when I hear people who in the same situation I 'll cry. I'm crying right now. Nobody believe me when I told them. They thought I told lie for not go to school. That was a nightmare! If u're still there, we can share our experience。
Same here. Im 16 and this problem started about 2 years ago. I did start smoking weed at a young age probably around 5th grade but just a few times but really started around 6th grade, I would smoke more but never constantly, I would stop smoking for long periods of time. Since I would hang out with my brother everywhere he would go, I would smoke along the way. Currently I have smoked a couple of times, just because I like when I'm high, I don't think negative just feel good but do get paranoid, and time goes by faster. I hate that all this has me thinking negative. It's very hard to control my face muscles and my body twitches quite a lot. Everytime I'm in a room and people cough or get near me, it distracts me, and I can't control people getting watery eyes or itching/running nose when I look at them. I know I'm the cause because it never used to be like this. I used to have a clear mind, I used to be happy. Everytime I'm in a room I feel like I get everybody depressed. I'm depressed, I try to just ignore it but it's destroying my joy and I'm 16, this shouldn't be the case. I have bad eye sight, I wear glasses now constantly but used to wear them off and on throughout my time. I used to have watery eyes at the end of middle school, I used to get watery eyes a lot. My face been through a lot, red rashes around face, bad skin on chin all hard and red skin being torn all slimey. I have little white dots around eyes. I'm not sure if it's because I smoked weed or started masturbating around high school or because I masturbate constantly for a certain amount of time (1 week) and stop for a month or two. Right now I'm trying to stop masturbating and leave it. Sometimes I think I look good or decent but people look at me amazed or like I'm weird. I just want to have a clear mind, think positive, and control my life by being "normal" I just want to be happy again. Please if anyone can help, I've considered suicide, please help me and other people like me.
Hey don't think your alone.
I've been kicked out of university for the same reason, with over £20K debt, Shortly being kicked out of my home with nowhere to go.
Lost a job and business to this, so i'm currently living on loans.
I looked down to people all my life, and to have something knock me down destroys you. The little things in life such as spending time with family is difficult.
Hugs & Kisses to all suffering from this, it's excruciating. Growing up, I suffered a lot of physical injuries from sports as well as results of my mischievous shenanigans, some were really bad however I would wish PATM on my worst enemy.
Seize every moment and live it as if you are not suffering. It's clearly not in our heads but until you can find a solution, don't let it make you crazy or destroy your life.
our pain comes when we do not give love
care to know less and know to care more
pure love is the answer
are you sure you are living by the rules? in my case its too late to do anything but i believe there is an age i wont say which but its rather generous if you ask me until which you are given a chance to live your life right, make ammends and not anger God or those you believe/his children or however you wish to call them (they will show dissaprovement by coughing etc
so yes the crisis theory works for me^^hope you get to read this before its all too late and you seal your fate